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The Huron Expositor, 1982-11-10, Page 211dYFY �lF 1 y P'e lv ev.1r Ye'1N Legion president relates five years of P.O. `„ ;m experiences BY RON WASSINIIt; When discussing the two world wars, veterans are reluctant to relate most experiences, only talking of humourous events which took place when they were overseas. If you ask a veteran to devulge tales of righting on the front lines ask if he or she fired against the enemy, or what it was actually like in combat, the grizzled soldier thinks 'for a moment and with tears in his eyes. says he does not wish to talk about it. One gets the impression, humourous stories aside. that actual events off the war were shocking. Veterans of the war. which ended 38 years ago, have lived with these memories since. memories so haunting that they don't want to share them. Interviewed on personal events of World War 11, Peter Malcolm 1982.84 president of the Seaforth branch 156 of the Royal Canadian Legion said he joined the Scottish Territorial Army. 51st Highland Division in 1932. In January 1940, his division was sent to France to liberate other forces fighting in that country, The division was ordered to transport supplies to "troops at the front." Pctcr was engaged as a service man. repairing equipment. Six months later, in June, the division, over 30,000 men, were captured by "the great General Rommcll and the Black Panthers." Peter was one of the captured men. The prisoners of war (POW) marched 500 miles, averaging 20 miles per day through France. Belgium, and Holland to the German prison camp. Stalag 8B. Protected under the Geneva Convention, prisoners who took ill on the march were transported to the nearest hospital. Peter said they were not left to dic. Once in the camp. prisoners were shaven and dc -loused, "We have lice from the day we wcrc captured, the remaining five years as 5 P.O.W," says Peter. "We slept on bunk beds, three high, with mattresses of straw." The daily meal, shared among eight mon, consisted of one loaf of bread. ESCAPE? One would get the impression that prisoners spent their days. loafing about, thinking of ways to c•scapc.•A daily routine, not a pleasant one. consisted of grading the prisoners. 'those in A• I condition were sent to work in coal mines. A working day was not eight hours but 12. most times seven days per week. "That's what 1 did for four and a half years", says Peter, Peter Malcolm. 38 years later. would not remind anyone of a strong. stalwart g�taiift a man. In fact, he is on thc sho idk, stocky. with no trace of excess weight. To a stranger. he may seem to have a hard tcntpernrcnt, but in rcality..thc opposite is trQc1 Speaking with a Scottish burr. Peter said escape rias virtually impossible. "The odd one got out hut was always brought back and punished," Punishment took the form of half rations and 12 hour days in the mines. "Wc ncvcr thought of escape. It seemed a waste of time. The only chance we may have had was during the march. but thcn there wcrc too many guards." Pctcr said the first two years were the hardest. After that. Red Cross parcels were corning through weekly. Containing cigar, cries. chocolate bars. fruit and various other goodies. parcels were shared amongst the prisoners. He said friendly German guards donated veasl which was mixed with the fruit to make jungle juice. At the same time, he received a set of bagpipes, an instrument he continues to play,.Letters were received and could be sent but were always censored, Questioned as to the type of treatment received, Peter said the "young Nazis were pretty rough but the old World War 1 German soldier was very good, bringing us extra food, secretly," Not wishing to discuss -the P.O.W. camp. in detail Peter did say there were "lots of rats with heads which seemed as big as our own. We used to kill them," Wiping tears from his eyes, Peter said he had two buddies in the camp. Both died as prisoners of war. "1 was one of the lucky ones. My only problem was hemorrhoids. TO BULGARIA Knowing enemy troops were closing in, the Germans began marching prisoners towards the Bulgarian mountains. Peter said he marched for eight weeks, beginning in January, in the dead of winter. Fellow comrades collapsed and died. "Food was very poor. Prisoners who did not survive died of dysentry." Recounting the events leading up to liberation, Petcr,said his group was resting in a bush. "One plane followed the march for three days. At first the pilot thought most of the group was Germans and fired upon them. He then realized the men were P.O. W.'s" "One of the crazy generals the Yankees had, General Patten and his division liberated us. We wcrc given rifles, ammunition and food." Peter was liberated in July, 1945, To the most asked question, and the most reluctantly answered, Peter said he did fire upon Germans. "It was either us or them and they had the upper hand." Relating back to the prison camp, Peter said one toilet and one wash basin had to bc shared by400men. "If you wanted to wash, you had to get up three hours before every- body," Following his liberation, Peter and his group wcrc flown to France. Following a one day stay, they travelled to England where two days wcrc spent cleaning up and receiving new clothes. He thcn went home. When asked if he was glad to get home, Peter replied, "Damn right." "1 could write a hook on P.O.W. stories but you wouldn't believe them. They're hard to tell. Since coming to Canada in 1953. I ncvcr talk about the war. On November I I. veterans only talk about good times. after the war." Ile cgnduded his service as a mac}cine,inner 2iiCtl°re RWhl Atttilfcry. " FIVE YEARS Peter still cannot believe he spent five years in a prison camp. "When we were captured. we ncvcr thought it would be five %cars! We figured we would be home in six months. After five years. most of us figured we would ncvcr get out. If a guy didn't have stamina, he would never have made it, I never had any regrets. 1 loved the army. If war broke out today. I would be right there... Peter feels Canada "looks after veterans prat% good. The Legion dues great work, If it wasn't for the Legion. old veterans might not gel %cry much at all." Although Remembrance Day doesn't seen important to sonic. Peter feels "it's something that shouldn't he forgotten, "Ten scars from now. I hope it will still bc • going strong." -f'; " s IN OBSERVANCE OF EMEMBRANCE DAY Our place of business will be closed all day, on Thursday, November 11 FORD SE�FORTH MOTORS LIMITED SEAFORTH 527-1010 STRATFORD AREA CUSTOMERS: 271-1626 52'-0610 d 1-17 t ' ,y May we never forget their courage Seaforth Creamery (1981) Inc, Seaforth h THE HURON EXPOSITOR, NOVEMBER 10, 1082 — A21 IN AN ATTEMPT to gain first hand knowledge of experiences of the two great wars, several veterans were interviewed at the Seaforth branch of the Royal Canadian Legion a week before Remembrance Day. In addition to the experiences, veterans were asked for their thoughts on Remembrance Day and why many people do not find the day significant. From left are Peter Malcolm, Barbara Scott, Paul Doig, Peg Coombs and Cleave Coombs. (Wassink photo) Veterans recall BY KRIS SVELA Remembrance Day holds a special significance for different people of all ages. For mime it is a time to remember fallen comrades, while others reflect on the hardships they endured as civilians with fond rations, blackouts and air raids. Still others• too young to have experienced the tragedy of war, take time out to remember those w ho Inst their lives in both world wars. For the 'cterans of both wars the memories are still with them. Peggy. Coombs and Barbara Scott, . members of the Ladies Auxiliary at the Seaforth Branch of the Royal Canadian Icgmo. recall growing up in England during the war from 1934 to 1945. Thcv rcnu 11hcr the air raids• working in factories kir the mar effort, the deaths of fancily members and friends. and the overwhelm ing feeling of togetherness as neighbours coped through difficult times. "'I he worst experience I had during the war etas when my father was killed in France In 19.19." Mrs. Scott explains. II etas during the war that Mrs. Scots joined the Auxiliarl 'territorial Service 1:1'15). helping train Red Cross workers to handle ckilian casualties. She admits It was a difficult time to grim up in. Mrs, Coombs agrees. She oorkcd in a printing shop during the mar and recalls the bombings and the food rations. It got lo the point during the air raids that me (the worhersl mould work through the raids because we had gotten uu'to the It takes just a moment to remember 1D BANK TORONTODOMINION BANK where Deopin make the difference 52'• I460 Seaforth In Respect of Remembrance Day Our Office, Showroom & Warehouse will be closed all day on Thursday, November 11 BALL-MACAULAY komecatv RUILDI 4G CENTRE DE11Vr p. nvn nFI1 SEAFORTH S2' ItI0 They fought for our freedom Seaforth Insurance Broker Ltd. ',e.1 forth memories bombings :Ind the noise." she recalls. They both remember the one fresh egg thea received each month and the meagre rations of bread. butter and meat, available :11 the time. Coastal communities were better off than many other inland areas because ilii could supplement their diet will] fresh fish. I'hc pair can still remember German bombers dropping bombs that were left oyer from London raids on their way back to Germany. Torn homes and buildings wcrc the result of many random bomb attacks. 'Ihc two women recall the closeness they experienced with their neighbours as everyone pulled together to help each other. 1odos the twowurncnarc active in Legion crogr;ttn.. directed at helping oar veterans. Each year they travel to Westminster Hospital in London to visit the veterans there. many of them casualties of the two wars. The Ladies Auxiliary adopts indivi- dual veterans to help them lead normal lives outside of the hospital. They also host an annual gathering of veterans in Seaforth, and donate money for the veterans' pub at the hospital On Thursday November 11. Remem- brance Day. Mrs. Coombs and Mrs. Scott w ill join with thousands and other war veterans in remembering those who died in both world wars and the memories they (cake of thc years of conflict. They both agree that they hope nobody w ill have to live through another war. Wear a poppy in remembrance MacLean's Flowers 52"43121 Seaforth Remembrance Day November 11 Bob £t Betty's Variety Ft Gifts Radio thaw Seaforth A moment's silence for a lifetime of freedom Town of Seaforth We are free to choose because of them