The Clinton New Era, 1880-12-23, Page 6DOMINION IIRLIIIIENT.
OruwA, Deo. 13.—The Speaker took the
chair at 3 *Week,
Mr. Blake invited the leader of the Gov-
ernment to give the urinal explanations as
$) the Mimeterial changes wIneh had taken
place since Parlittnaent was last in session.
Sir john Macdonald said that the hon.
member for Terreboime, who wits obliged to
Vacate his position as President of the
Council, had only done so when he found
that is failing healtli would no longer per-
mit of his performing the arduous duties of
his office. The hon, member for Joliette,
who had been promoted to the bench, was
succeeded by a gentleman from his own
Esetion. The arrangements were in every
ease reader in the manner believed to be
most conducive to the efficiency of the
pane nervier:. .
Mr. Blake said tlutt bethought it was the
first occasion upon which a department
connected with One ef the two great
branches of taxation had been transferred
from the /Wine to the Senate. He was
sure that they would all, with the utmost
sincerity, agree in the regrets which the
hon. gentleman had expressed as to the cir-
"en:ham:coos- which- occasioned the retire -
Mont of the hon. member foe, Terrebenne.
Theyhad all admired the courage and
principle that lied marked his public and
private career, and he had to express his
congratulations to the gentleman who had
• succeeded him. ,.
CANADA •metro nainwA-r.
Mr. Mackenzie moved for all pipers, eto.,
concerning the construction of the Canada
Pacific railway, inolndbig the. offers made
for its construction and working to the
' Government before the 'delegation of Min-
istersleft for England, together with the
offers made while the Ministers were in,...
England by European or other contractors,
and copierrof all correspondence by letter
or telegram respecting the construction of
the said railway. .They were now about to
entro. diffenssitinof the most iinport•
ant, the most momentous question ever
submitted10 a Canadiaia Legislature, *me
which would affectthe proeperity of this
emintry 'very materially for a very long
time to come, and would affect more mate.
• rially that portion of the territories where
thie railroad is to be built. It Was there-
fore of the last importance that Parliament
should have a eel:opiate statement of all the
offers Made, to enable the members to
judge whetber or net the Government bad
received any offers Which, in the estima- ,
thin of the House would be of sigh a char-
acter as entitled. them to be seriously en-
tertained. •
Sir Sohn Macdonald regretted that be
!could. not give his hon. friend much assist-
ance in regard to the inforniation asked for.
Befere he went. to England there Was an
offer, a provisional one Only, made to the
' Government. They subsenueiltlyreceived
• a Second offer, and as they received in-
direct inform-ation yerlially that swath&
offer would probably be made from parties
in New ;York and San Francisco, they de-
cided to inform all the parties that they
would adjourn to London before entertain-
ing any ;offers. Thereapen the first
ten-
derer . withdrew from offering, , and ••th e
second 'party subliequenidY., dropped their
application. He wotfld say that the present
• offer was tbe most 'favorable one, both as
regards money and land, that the Govern...
Parliament This was not acdording to con-
stitutional precedent. The Minister of
Railways was reported to have said he had
advised the appointment of this
commis-
BiOli to inquire into charges made against
himself. This was, he believed, unconsti-
tutional. He objected to the issue of this
coramiesion because it was composed of
gentlenaenintereeted in inquiring into their
OM conduct as well as of blackening their
opponents. He asked that the informa-
tion ehould be brought down at as early a
date as possible.
Sirjohn Macdonald saidit would answer
no purpose to discuss the matter at this
stage until the commission and the act
upon whiclt it waa created werebrought
down ate discuseed.
The motion was carried.
-A TUE SYNDICATE.
Sir Charles Tupper moved for a com-
mittee of the whole on Tuesday next to
consider the following resolutions;
1st, That it is enedient to grant and appro-
priate twenty -live millions of dollars, accortlin„•,
to the terms of "tho contract relating to the
Canadian Pacific railway transmitted to this
House by His Baroollency the Governor-General
by his message dated. December 10th.
2nd. That it is expedient togrant and appropri-
ate twenty -Ave naillion, acres of land in the North
west Territories, according to the terms of the
said contract so transmitted as aforesaid.
*Iir'.131ake'ikToVedliA1 amendment- subati-
Wing the following :
That in view of the numitudo and gravityof
the questio.is presented, °and in ardeioto givo
tined- for consideration by the House and 1,lab
country, tho Housd will resolve itself intrl com-
mittee of the whole on Wednesday, the Oth day
of 'January next. - --
The amendment was oat—yeas, 51;
nays, 104.. ,
The' original Motion was carried on.the
same division,
The Efousd adjourned at 6:20 p.
OTTAWA Deo. 14.—,The Spectkor.took the
chair at o'clock. • "
.- Sir John Macdonald presented the report
-of the committee appointed to prepare the
lists of standing committees: - • •
Sir Chatles Tupper resented it return
railWay to the -1st DiCenehere 'alseethe re -
Mr:, Mackenzie said' he was extremely
disappointed by the • course of 'the hon.
gentleman. Jae had indicated .from' the
time he returned from England a deter-
mination to keep the people in the
dark a's to the offers- received .for this
• work and the bargain made.. He attempted
. now to feree" 'Parliament to ,adopt this
bargain without any change, and constituted
himself the stile -judge of the necessity ofi
publishing these papers. Whit had he to' do
_with judging what was fair or n'cit? ft was
, for this ParliaMent, for those who plated
the hon. gentleman in his present position,
.to judge What Was fair,' (Cheers.) This
' was the first time that such a tetiitn had
• - been refused to Parlibinent, but though the
hon. gentleman might get his majority to
vote his extraordinary scheme through the
House he (Mt. .Mackenzie) would predict
that the hon. gentleman would not.be sus-
tained by the country in his .refusal to
bring down the papers which would enable
• Parliament to come to a righteous conclu-
sion upott.it. He wbiald 'divide the Reuse
• on this motion---Achdersand would re-
- quire every hon. member who voted against
it th.slio* that he accepted the responsi-
bility of refusing these papers to the people.
(Hear, hear.) - •
• Mr; Blake said they were now consider-
ing merely what materials wero essential.
to it proper discussion of the great measure
soon to be submitted to them. The pro-
positions emanating from :the other side
,were snob as wouldnot unfitly characterize
the nonduct of public business under a
despotic Government, The. Minister of
Railways did not dare to say that these
offers were received in confidence, for that
would be an acknowledgment of a gross
breach of public, atty. He took advantage
' of a legal phrase, and said they were made
"without prejudice." • But in this instance
this. Could mean nothing, for, as the mem-
ber for Shefford • (Mr. Huntington) had
pointed out, one tendering for the Pacific
,,,. railway must expect his,effer, even ifnot
a ,carried out; to be made kleOwn the seine as
. a tender for any other public work. The
public businees could not go on if Ministers
were to arrogate to themselves the laciwei
. . 'of bringing clewn only snocessfill tentlers;
Last session the Minister gave us some de-
: tails of an oiler then mech.,' He (Mr.
Blake) spoke frbra memory, but he believed
that one offer for the construction of the
Jine from Selkirk to Kamloops was 00,-
000,000 and 13,000,000 acres of land. • ,
of, the expenditttre on he Canada Pacific
port. of the 'chief engineer of the Canada
Pacific railway of the estimated. amount '
required to complete all the Works which
under the proposed arrangement are to be
handed over to the syndicate.' The felicity-
ing is the first:named .etatement
Canada Pacific Railway, °Rico Of Engiuecr-in
•' Chief; Otte:Ws, Dec. 7, 1630. '
$3 a,—At the roc -pest ot the Min. tbe Minister
of Railways and Canals, I have the honor to sub-
mit it es,relully prepared estimate of the proba-
ble cost of coust-Amting the sections el the Cana -
dm Pacifie railway.lying between Primo A rthUr's
Landing and Selkirk; the Pembina braueh, ex;
tending from SolkiAt to Emerson; and rorn
•Namloops to Poi t Moody, British Columbia, in-
cluding ,Station-bouses and waterJanks. TAM
estimate is made on the basis ifponwhich tho
works are now being caizied • out.—I have Die
honor to bo, sir, your obedient servant.
(Signed) COLLINGWOOD Scrintum'a, • .
• , . .Enginedr-in-Claieh
Memo. of estimated cost of constructing the
f.ollowing sections of the Canadian Pacitle rail-
way
. .
Porten .A.UTIOM'S LANDING TO FORT WILLIAISI.'
further sums as might be necessary to
carry on the work. In 1875 the hon. gen-
tleman remained of the same opinion, for
on a reference to Lord Carnarvon be de,
oidecl not only that two millions ehouldbe
expended per annum in British Columbia,
but that the whole work should be com-
pleted from British Columbia to Lake
Superior by 1890. The, circumstances of
the country hadat that time changed very
largely from those which existed when the
previous Government agreed to the
construntion of the, Pacific, railway; but
notwithstanding this and the de-
finite which had occurred under the
hen, gentlernatee administration, the then
leader of the Government had seen no
reason in 1876 to change his previous
views. ' In 187a the change of administra-
tion took plow, and the hon. gentleTan's
patriotism was tested by his being com-
pelled to view the question from the Oppo-
sition Bide which he had considered as, #1,
member of the Government. The Hotta
could understand what gratification he ex-
pected to find expressed in the hon. gentle-
man's (Mr. Mackznzis's) face when he
learned that what ha had unauccessfully
endeavored to do had ben ti 18,0 accom-
plished. The Government came bank to the
policy with which they started, viz.: to
use the lauds of the Northwest to build
this road. The development of this coca -
try -Ws tcrbe aeldeved ettlyby thehonstruc••
thin of this great work. They felt that it
would be well to ask the House to place at
their disposa1.100,00Q,000 acres of land for
the purpose of building this road, believing
that every dollar that would be expended
would be recouped by eales of land. Itwas
intended oleo to secure the co-operation of
tlic Imperial Goueriatuent, and for this pur-
pose, armed with authority from. Pazlia.
recut, several members of the Cabinet went
to England. The.press of England was, as
it had always been, either iudifferent or
bitterly heetile_:theCanada, in contradis•
Unction to their attitude in reference to
Australia and the other colonieri. One good
result which had been accomplished was it
!narked change in this respect dating from
the tirne_ when Lord Beaconsfield, then
Prime-7,1V.Itnisfer,. expressed • iu- publichis
belief in the enormous value of the Cana-
dian Northwest. The Colonial Moe had
published, what they never did before
authoritatively, a document recommending
Canada as a -geld for eniigration. La the
London Times of to -day au announcement,
had appeared that the Imperial Govern-
ment intended forming an -emigration
scheme to Canada in connection ' with the
Canadian Government.
Mr. Blake: --Let me remind my how
friend that this is the Gladstone Govern-
ment, and that with which he ltd the con-
•ferences was the Beaconsfield Government..
nails and:laying$ 9,3,000
Purchase , 12.600 '
35,000
PORT WILLIAM TO ENGLISH advnt.
•Rails 850,000
„Graillug, etc. - 1,ese,e01, 2735,C00
RNGLISII IIIVRIV TO neexas etc en eleceiox
nails • • 580,000
Grading, etc.. 2,050,630 •
on the ountrY. He said that after the
amount had been spent which the Govern-
ment propoeed they would only have a
colonization, road. He had never felt more
grateful to Parliament than when, notwith-
standing the unpatriotic: efforts of the
Opposition, the House put 100,000,000 acres
of land at the disposal of the Government
for the purpose of oonstriteting ibis road.
The Government now wore in a position to
enure the eonstructioeof the repel, and not
only that, but to have it operated for ten
years, for the ineignifieaut consideration to
Canada of 42,000,000 per annum. Suppos.
Ing even that they had to pay interest for
ever on the money this Syndicate would ob-
tain, }hider this contract, out of 100,000,000
acres of land voted by Parliament the Gov -
eminent till retained 76,000,000 itt their
hands. But for the „statement the lion.
gentleman made yesterday he should have
dealt with the measure as one for which he
could confidently ask for the support of
every gentleman opposite, and contended
that the leader of the late Government
stood 'committed by the strongest state-
ments made in and out of the House that
those terms were better than the most
sanguinb maai could possibly have expeeted.
But the hen, gentleman opposite did, not
like the company, or at least their local
organ had objected to the composition of
the company.
— Sir -RI-chard Cartwright—Js- that , the
Citizen?
.,.•
2 CM 000
PAOLI,: GIVER we itEnwATIN (SECTION n)•
Rails ' 800,000 '
-Grading, can. '
$ 3,5.00,000
'N.SXWATIN TO SELItlaa.
,Rails $ 970,000
Grading; etc. 3,530,630
• $ 4400,000
• Station houses, two engine
' houses and water iervicelf.. * 230,065
Grind -total, Prince Arthur
Lan ding. to Selkirk
- • ' PEml,rta numicn:
•$ 7
Grading, etc 76.
• , . •
• S1,3,8i.10,000
00,000
0,000 •
$ 1,400.900
68,000
Mr. Casey—It was §19;000,000 and 13j-
000,000 acres.
Sir Choi -lee • Tupper—If. I remember
rightly it was 03,000,000 and 20,000,000
acres. 1 -may be wiettO. • . •
BlakeesHow important it is, Mr.
Speaker, that. we Should have the papers.
The Minister himself does not ;remember
whit the offer was. •
The motion. was pet and lost on the fol.
lowing division : yeas, bi ; nays, 111.
, erneseuet Beam. . •
Mr. Mackenzie, tri moving for copies of
. .
all offers made to' the Governmetic fort the
construction of it line of railway from any
part of the preposed Canada Pacific rail-
waY the to SautteSte. B/fitele, said he heard
that some offers' had, been made, and he
hoped the jt were not Made by any parties
regard to Whom there VMS any clanger
that they would fail, beettuee in that ease
the House could not expect any informe-
tioe. Ho hoped the Minister would not
• choke off inquiry any further in reference
to this Matter. ' •
The motioh was carried,
Mr. XIIIA, x tnoYing for it copy of the
Royal Cerareissioti issued to MOM, Clarke;
Keefer and Miell„ to inquire into certain
public: matters, said he had noticed that
neembere of the Government had stated
that they were at liberty to inquire into the
vended of members of the Government
whiett had already attrAeted the attention of
Stations, etc
Grand total P. A. -Landing '
, .
to Emerson . $15,048,000
. • ' ... 3LAMLOOnS TO 'MR. '
Bails - • ' $.' 770,000 .° .
Grading, etc 7,10,0,000 _
• $ 7,87.0,000
Stations, etc'. , . . , ... ' 80,C0
•'
$ 7,050,00
Total •
'•'YALE TO FORT 11903:2T:
8 610400 •
2,00 •
$. 3,010 000.
00630
Grading; etc
Stations, etc
0
0
Total • ,$ 3,100,000
Miscellaneous payments $ 302,000
Engineering on construction 1,000,000
$ 1,002,000
•Grand total ..... . . . $24,000000
STATEMENT' OF EXPRNDITVRE Toi3Oy tjQln 11380_
Total expenditure to Tune .
30, 1870 ' $17,44.4237 -
Expenditure • during ibleal
year ended June 10, 1150.. " 4,044,627
Total expenditure to luno
801880 $16,488,80
Expendth
iture r Svc months
2,111,53
ended Nov. :30, 1880 •
4
Total expenditureto Nov. 80, .
1880
7,
819,000,402
rite SYNDICATB BARGAIN. ••••
Sir Charles Tupper replied iu the liege
tive, bat was not quite sure that they
rnieht not convert the Citizen; as on a pre-
vious occasion in twenty-four hoursthey
had taken the .Tirnee tint Of the Gavern-
thent's Lends. He, might be told that the
promoters of the :'St. Paul 44- Minneapolis
railwaywere concerned in this compitey.
.He was proud thie this visa So, and claimed
that froin the* codnectien of these gentle-
men with the "United States beide it was
desirable to seepre their interest in this
hudertehing, and by this ,tietion the My-
ern/neat.had virtually annexed it large
portion of Minnesota lends; to Cauadiazi
interests, (Laughter,) As to the Beeurity
and the capital paid up—live millions in
two years and a security of one million—
he contended that if the parties tticingelves
were unquestionably satiefactory.the
amall-
er eeourity the better. (Ironical cheers.)
Mr. Blake—in order to improve the situ-
ation, let us strike out the million dollars`
•seourity. (Cheers and laughter.) ,
• Sir Charles Tupper said be was of course.
speakiug -within certain 1imits7 (Hear,
bear,) Inthe eonetruction of the Tinton
Pacifie and other gigantic works the security
which the Government lie.d• was their coed
dance in the ability of the parties•to earry
out the work. .Next July tho construction
of the section from Callender Station Was
to be commenced; and coetinuedpatipassu
until communication was obtained With the
cities of old Canada, That wonld shorten
the distance 500 miles.. lithe Government
had constructed the road by Sault Ste,
Marie the distance item Winnipeg to Cal-
lender. Station would have been 1,168 miles,
whereas by the proposed mite it would be.
only 1,0$7 miles, or ,111 miles shorter: e! •
Mr. Blake 48k:id What the, distante was
front Nipissieg to the point whale the road
struck Thunder, Bay.„ . • *: . •
. Sir Charles Tupper said it was 686 Miles
from Callender Station to Ilanehoping
Statieri'..e..-"PhendittiCifee':fetete Itiea1 to,
Callender Station was 80 miles,. and the
dietetic° from Toronto 226 miles. . Items,
eitirl that the standard of the Union Pacific
railway was too low,. but he thought, con-
Sidering, the-termsnaltdewith-the preeent,
aftmeey, the Government coutd noeeletict
terms inore onerous than they clidfrern the
cempaily • chartered ie 1872, Which
was to receive ' e81;000,0001 -e -and. then•
•the standard proposed Was also the
I.Tuion Pacific. Ih reference to the ,
division', of . the payments • on the
central section, the object the Oewernment
had in view was to push the reed frera
Winnipeg to the foot of the Rocky Moun-
taine as scion as possible, anti it had been
stated by.one of those •gentiereetepideliely
. that iu three years they would be ate
foot of the Rocky Mountain§ (cheer*, ancl
wolak.l. build 800 miles during the comity
season:. (Cheers.) ' Thatinvolved an enor-
mous amount of cepitarat the outset -The
moment thecontract was! ratified by Per-
liainent thee° gentloMen hM niit only to
deposit the.seautityrecluired by thieaeree-:
inent but to take •••another • million but Of
their -pockets to equip the -read new in
operation and that would be in operation
very eltertty:•.-,-.-He.. was certain, therefore;
thet no injustice lad been dime in the ',ap-
propriation of the:payments r of *miner:
They imestnot lose Bight of the' fact that
therewould: be it -greet expenditure of •
mcivey for . 'the purpose of bringing
Sir Charles Tupper continuing said that
since the advent to poWer..of the Gladstone
Government the Prender with himself and
the Minister Of Agriculture lied several
personal coriamunications with the mem,
hers Of that administration,and found that
their sentiments in reference to Canada
were of the most libeliTcharacter, andthey
were equally zealous in impressing upon the
minds of the empire and the Government
of .Great the 'importance ef
givingi due attention to the resourCes
of , the goat Cautuidei Nortli*este
He contended that, the presentetermeewere
largely within the terms that the hon.
gentlemen opposite had •Pledged them -
salves th support the Government in wept -
big, and Maimed irom -thein that support
to which the _Government weee.entilled,
The Government WO not afraid to crime
torsi/11rd and she* the World that they had,
such eofilidence itt thejtiture development
of the great Northwest ; that they ,could
.undertake this work. Uridee these cir-
cumstances; the Government policy was
,sehmittpd to Parliament, and they: Were
met by Obstruction from that party who
had pledged themselves to the rapid
construction of the Work by.' it subsidy. of
lands pr the proceeds of •-lands according to
the:advertisement published on the, 20th of
May..1.880. .• *. e • • .
.. Mr. Mackenzie said it' was provided by
, the act of 1574 that two thirds of ehelend„
shonlct be wild .be the Government ineen-
junction: with' the 'contractors, and that the
tratrproceedsgathen: ,.yaid to the •con;
Sir Charles Tupper . said. that put the
whole cost of the sale: on the Government,
while the presentadministration left the
conipenei to, pay it.. When this Govern -
lama -decided to milt capitalists on what
terths:they would takeover and Operate for
ever the Canada Pacific ratlWaytheY placed
theinselves. in ,communication with every'
party Whore theythought capable of mak-
ing ' and_ carrying but these offerS. They.
Ineelte the proposal to .0m:replete -.the' line
from Thunder Bey telliTd•Rivereanclefrome
. Kemloops to Emery Bar, and ultiecattelY to
Port Moody, and asked the parties on What
terms they•Would Complete the portion from
Lake Nipissing to Thunder Bay, a distance
of 652 miles. • • • • *
Mr. Mapioniie asked if • the hon. gentle,
man would lay' a:Copy of the proposition
b:SirItd
heihaabrilee's Tuppersaid he had noob-
jection. - " • • ' •
• Mr. Mackenzie timidthat offers had not
been asked for by public advertiseinent.
• Sir Charles Tupper said no, and he
tliought.they would . have defeated the ob-
jeet-they had -in- View' if they had done SQ,
Mr. Casey—Hear, hear. • What was •tho
object you. hadin view? . • '
Sir Charles Tupper said the Whole expen-
diture that wohld cordo out of thatre,asury
of Canada for the completion -of the sections
now Under centrant •would be itt rdtind
num:bort; 628;000,000. He (Sir Charles) had
subinitted aii estimate Of 984,000,000 for
the construction . of the road, allowing for
cheap conetrtiction west of Red River. The
length of road proposed to he buiit was
2;627 miles.' Even if the contractors added
to it they would receive no more than the
stipulated tothneration: '
• Sir Albert Smith—Suppose they shorten
it ? •
Sir' Charles' ThppOrl would be 'very
glad if they -did. Coming • down to the
'tents of the present contract laid before
'the House, he said that for the 712 •mites
to be completed by the Government there
would be an outlay of 528;000,000, • For the
-construction of the road from Lake Nipis-
sing tos. Fort .William, a distance of 650
miles, and from Selkirk tb ..ICatiiloopo, a:
dietanee of 1,350 miles, the Government
hediegreed to pay in • addition the num of •
•§25,0010,C00 and 25,000;000 cieres of Md.
making it total cash Subsidy of 5'6000;000,
and the land estimated at the setrie rate as
he ltd estimated the land tinder the con
tricot of 1873 and under the appropriation
by Parliament in the act of 1874, at 61 per
iteke, would make thetotal amount expend.
*ad te secure the 'construction of the road
673,000,000. He believed that those terms
wore greatly beloW any termsthat had
provionsly been .offerOd- to ParliaMent for,
the eonstruetion'tn the road. Comparing
these figures 'with thee° of previous cideu•
lationt, he said that the estimate in 1873
was 84,700,000; in 3874 it was 0104,801,-
.600, to which .$,500,000,. the Ost of the
• extra 40 Milo, should be added, and in 1880
it is only 678,000,000. (Ministerial °beetle)
The present leader of the Opposition had a
yeat ago given Iiie views as to the cost of
the toad and the liabilitio it Would, entail
Sir Charles Tupper moved that the
House resolve itself into committee 'of the'
whole to considerlehe resolutions previously
stated. '
-- The motion was carried without dissent.
Sir Charles, Tupper in some preliminary
remarks alluded to this as the most in -47
portant question ever brought before Par-
liament. It involved the building of this
great national work in a manner which had
•on more than one previous occasion received
the sanction of Parliament, and on 'terms
more favorable than ever before presented.
(11/41e; no, and hear, hear.) But for what
had taken place yesterday he would have
felt himself warranted in sayiugthat these
resolutions would receive the unanimoua
approval of themembere of this
House. . (Derisive 'GAM of Hear, hear,
and laughter.) Although -the, two 'great,
parties entertained some differences
as , to the details of •the construction
of this road, the House was unanimous in
believing that it ehouldle built by private
enterprise. In 1872 it became necessary
to state What aid to the scheme was to ba.
given by the Grovel:m:6one The journals
Woutd show that Parliament, by a large
Majority, placed at ;the service of the Gov-
ernment for thie purpose 530,000,000 'and
60,000,000 acres of land, with 20,000 fierce
per mile additional forthoPerabinabrancle
and 26,000 acres per mile for the Nepigon
branch. The Government then mitered
into a contract with a company, with Sir
Hugh Alban -as its head, to construct the
line on this basis. But the agents emit to
England failed in their mission and had to
return. A new Government was formed
under the able •leadership of this member
for Lihnbton, It was afterWards found
that the week could not be proceeded with
without increasing the taxation, and in his
(Sir Charles') judgment the hon. member
for Lamhton would have been quite jus•
tifiod in eameuncing that be was forced to
hold the construction of the reed in Obey -
auto. Tho hon. gentleman obtained
power to give 00,000 and 20,000
acres a mile for the road from Lake
Eipiseing to tho Pacific ocean, for the Pena.
bine, branch, and for the Georgian Bay
bran* hosidee 4 per cent. interest On sneh
the Home his reasoes for this course on
another opportunity.
, Mr. Blake, who was greeted with Oppo-
eition cheers, intimated. that as the honr
was late (then nearly 11 o'clock) he would.
speak only for a abort time, and then avail
himself of the privilege of moving for the
adjournment ot the debate. Almost ab the
outset of his speech he maintained the
sincerity of his belief evtieu he charac-
terized the contract as not merely danger-
ous, but ruinous to the national interests
if carried into effect. Having referred
briefly to Sir John's description of his
occupation in a future state, he allneed
with disdain to the distorted quotations
from his speeches published by Tory agents
and read by Sir Charles. He criticized
the latter's olefins that the Premier, who
had led Lord Beaconsfield to make Pis no-
torious speech about Canada, was entitled to
all the credit for the increased haterest taken
by England in Canada and her affair*
Instead of this resulting from Sir John's
and • Sir Charles' visit to England, he
thoueht the steps said to be under con-
sideration by the Imperial Government
were brought about by Charles Parnell's
agitation and,the distressed state of Ireland.
He twitted the Minister of Railways upon
his new found admiration of the directors
of the St. Paul ez Manitoba -railway,
which of emirs° must include that hon. gen-
tleman now absent -from the 1101.1.811,...wluL
had been called it "liar " by dno member of
the Government, and a "coward" by anotbee.
He repudiated all charges of inconsistency
respecting his views expressed° at the
time the Georgian Bay centred was under
consideration by Parliament, itpd stated
that it was immaterial what his vi0ws as
to the value of land in the Northwest had
been ill the past, They were now modified
by information he ha since obtained.; end
would submit it at t'fie proper thee. All
comparisops of the present price to be paid
for the road with that to have been paid
under provlous schemes, must be upon the
same basis to be effective. Tho sehemes
formerly'submitted. wero for it high-priced
Work, while that offered now was for it
degraded road.
At- this etage the debate was adjourned.
- (GOOTiNGED ON VIVID PAGR4
�Oil. EDWARD 11, IKE'S
PEKORA.MION.
VIiy Sir
Jolin ITIOcdonn1.11 Seocrendered.to
the send 14.eo e• • "
• The; hen, geetleman then continued—
Now, I caunot-understand wity it is that
the monstrous bargain has been brought to
Parliementehow it is that Ministers who,
during the last session of Parliament, told
us they were able, withoet hip:hying upon
tbe resources of tho country, fci." Coestrueb
tbe Pacific railway, should* bring down a
plan which does not relieve us from tbe
eneclen of its construction ; which obliges us
to go on spending our mo.uoy for tau years
to come, which involves -a, total expendi
tine by us of .060,000,000 . and the cession
Of 25,000,000 acres et land,whieh . bands
•over to it private coeporatioe the Whole
profit of that:expenditure. . Had the gen;
elemen proceeded in • the busineeselilie
way suggested ; • and gone in With the
Thuuder 'Bay' branch ; had they agreed that
our finances could pot steed the stram of
'building in Britieh Columbia, there would
lave been .xio reason for therli. to invite
"ParliitIne-Tillo-pasS—auri068- ti 1iiive TiW
before • es.. • But they made those state-
. meats. vaiich the public mind .flid not
credit, theyefelt,beund to Make *seine ethei:
• arreugenient to escape from the ilifficulty
- they had phi:ego/le theinselve's.
They went te England and Tnade an offer.
It terns out thet,they Clid not • euticeed in
Englancl. The Fireli Minister said -that they
eery nearly failetlikna.that when they left
Blighted they had not itacceeded in making
a bargain at all, that details which were,
SO • vital *that- disagreement upon them
PACIFIC RAILWAY BARGAIN,.
• Opinions or MO reatitt.
After all, is not thie bargain " with the
Syndentte worse than the old Pacific Scan-
dal ?--London. Advertiser.
No miestep ;amid ho made; but ell feel-
ing and preferences should be subordinated
to the one idea—which is the hest policy
for Canada.—St. Catharines Journal.
The restrietions wind: surround the'
ageeement seem to he 'ample, and we have
no doubt that, although the Opposition will
make a grand onslaught upen the eolaezne,
it will'cornmend itself to a great majority
of the members in raffle:iamb, if not to a
majoeity on both sides of the Hohee, and
that the public will heartily approve of the
bargain made' by the Governineut.—Delle-
villa Intelligener.
It is ecitmely possible that there its *
quarter of the Dominion—with the solitary
exception' of Britisu Clolurneia--in which
the pews will not be read with mingled
feelinge of astonishment and indignation.
•So far as the Government is coucerned,
and so fox as the country's interests are
concerned, it is not a bargain but a capitu-
lation. The instrument from first to lase
has apparentlybeen dietated by the sYndi, •
cite; it reads like an exaggeration. Judged
leyeeny !standard, it in ehadealtegether.--7-----e-e
Toronto World.
' The contract undertaken by these gen-
tlemen.ie a, veryserious.. and-,eorieronseence.....
involving the heaviest responsibilittete• and
in the nature of things it was wisp that the
terms& shouldbe as liheral . es the nubile
interests everuld ellaw. What will be re -
gerbil as it matter • of siucerest eatiefac-e
time is that by this errangament theemuitri
escapes that undefitedroponsibility which
the construetion and working Of the rail- •
Way as it Governineuti work involved.:e-
Mootreal Gaetitte: .
What the Go vernitteuf i/l'OPOSS 3S to in-
flict upon "the hTeraiv"est tine, condition of
thitees for it oreacter of it ceutury, and the
company have received front elle • Govern-
ment guarantees wee 058 tie possvhaity of
improvement. TI' e eeitteiet, in .faut,
make the colsepaey the Jostle proprietors
ofethe whole of our Nor.ltweet '.eereitoeies.
We'liave the diai. of. eiine , timed back
seven centuriee, the population of the ,
Northwcist are to he made the villeins of
this corporate rnonstee.--,Lonclou Aclver- • ,
tiser: *.• ' • ' •
The policy of tbe Government bas been.
'now* fully illustrate& itt reference to the "' -•
l'aoiic railwey. It is -again that of treat-
, ine the Perliament ae•initirel I independent
of. the people, and as distinct from them as
if the word repeesentatioe 'were unknown
and 'the 'Dominion I1klatuto the.,
emna-
tion of it single will. .Nceliing could he
more cavalier or mote indepoUdeet than
the mode ie .evine'li nubile opinion was
treated by the D.orninion.• Cabinet itt refer -
mice to the, leaci 6 b railway, Itis, we think,
under the citeumstauceit„ the duty of the
Oppeeiticin to.protract- the clebebes upon:
the Pacific. railway until 'Sem coestituencies
can be hoerde anti to orgenize theirepinions
iii the...form of petitione...
May in this way be assorted despite the . -
.:guzzling protess iideeted by aid GoVern-
menteeQUebeeeMeretirte. • ,
The•edvisability. of, giving ciey•Onipaity
7tioWeieficiiiiptirt'anyeibulitity 00 iron eted"''
other nietepals--•-for, under tlid ceetract
ereiheitYseeupplies Weidaappeartoybe in; •
• clinle'cl —is also a 'queatiene ble privilege,
whilst the•right griaratitet•d the eon:many, .
under, iteetriertehise; -toe mime—alternate-
blOCIN of land deemed net efeirly fit for
• settlement" 'is: a provisien,operi .• to °idea- -
time /or no Meuse -provides :tiny authority,
.save and except the compauy, to determine
what is and what it not 'fit ;" • • the
option . • • of.. • releethig •. "or eseleCting
is vested iti the- • company • aloneee „
weule millifY thewhole proceediegs were whilst et -.the Sonia time they eae choose •••
people into the Northwest, Hereafter
•Still• in siemens° whee they came- here, the best of any given plot of laud, inwhtioh
and remained in suspense some six or seven
wetks after.' they arrived. Prudence de
mended that they ebotild simply say thee
negotiatiens ,Wete eoing on, but the•lion..
gen tleurieu could nott'weit, They announced
With tritunph that they had already made
their bargain e, contract firm, and by such
an announcement placed themselves in the
hands of those geutlemen Who formed the
syndicate. ' They could not afford to differ
from those gentlemen. ThelIen. Minist6r
had announced, and the •people bad . ao-.
opted bisutterance,thae a bareein bad been
linede which would ensure the construction
et the railway without cost to the people,
and include. a flow of imi
migration nto
the „Northwest.: What " could he do if,
atter being here seven' weeks, ire would.
be obliged to give the lie to those declara-
tions, and to say, "1 have made no bar-
gain ae alh '•The •details remaieed unset -
tied when'I efbke to you. The syndicate
-would not-egerseeto-neyetermsenaulecoliee:
quently we are where we ;welt. . To the
metead of .heving t� carry onit etipoby
against railway companies for . immigrants -
to people and occupy the lands of the
Northwest, eve would' hey° a gigantic tulle
way company with its ramilicatioes in the
United. States, England, France, Germany
and ea -operating heartily with the Govern-
ment in carrying on this work, (Cheers.)
He was told that anotleer very obrectiore
able feature of this contract was that the
lands owned by the syndicate Were exempt
from taxation. Speaking candidly be
would have been glad had that provistion
not been in the contract: (Hear, hear.) If
only out of consideration for the stmeg
prejudice which existed within the country
against such exemptions. But thee° wero.
two things the Government had to con-
sider: first, to make as good a bargaiti As.
pessiblo fin._Canada ; tiecond, .to pre- ,
vent 'euch term being but ,itito
the . contract as wei.ild be likely:,
to injuriously affect the mohey markets
of the world when the syndicate went into
them. No land monopoly, as ordinarily
understood, could exist 'in the Northwest
under this ontract, as the lands wore con-
siderably subdivided. Branch liees of
ra-l'ere..Vreti'Mr';IerHWit*eto of
the Northwest, and1er/4i-ft pronibie
tion as was claimed. •The Government
retained possession of :the Pacific railway
telegraph line; and therefore :would be in a
position to treat with the, company as to
the regulation of faros and freight rates oe
substential basis. 1I0 concluded bite five
hours' *speech with aglowing panegyrie
upon this the crowning ad in Sir John
Macdonald's mercer, and he foretold 'most
wonderful result e as the consequence of the
onstruotion of this railway across the con-
tinent withintwenty years. He concluded
hisspeech* midst prolonged Ministerial
dicers, . •
Mr. Macdougall alluded to the artielo itt
the Citizen, and to the fact that when Sir
Charles referred to it he turned towards
the spot where he (Mr. Macdougall) was
sitting. •
Sir Charles Tupper ittetrupted, mid ex-
plained that he did so eimonsciously, and
that bus remarks had no personal Applica-
tion, •
Mr, Macdougall coneinning, said he had
generally been credited ih the corridors
and lobbies With having written the article.
He had this to say, that he neither knew
it was to appear floe did lie write or inspire
it. Ho thought it, -however, was it manly
one, espeeially as coming frett a Govern.
Web supporter, end cobeluded by eh -
flouncing that hie views upon this contract
were sixth that he could not support the
Government upon it, and woeldexplein to
•
•
Ate
the Groveinment's right is wilted, by setting ,
it aside and selecting it for stations; beild-
.ings, yards, oto., Bald thereby not only
secure exemption from taxationelnit te- •
:monopoly of all lands likely to become
valuable—es town oteillageplote. Another
important:privilegW thet guareuteed the
Company as centre:Ding al l subelditiry rail-
riad • lines• having coenection 'with the:
Pecific,.whilst Parliament relinquishes„ for
e Period ofetwenty yore,its right to ,
authorize the :eonettuction of any Imes
seuth Of tlio'Capadia.u. Pecifire—ehis cert
Minty is a great' power, if not a ‘dangerot
one, to place in, the heads o a porepany,
witlenit teetrictions of „ ee _mom specific •
nature than those' the company are sub; : •
jeeted . to under the peopood 'charter,*
and might in the future gravely &fleet the •
settlementof 'lends hold by •Government •
being mede ,either • to; retard or prothote
emy particular portions.P2 territory owned ,
by the cempany., More thee this, the ex- ,
emption of !melt a layereircereifelend-frone
either provincial or municipal taxation;
Until Sold outright to settlers, Would ESSIG
questionable, more particulailyas no ore- '
piteY would make an effort, to sell lands so
long as they , y -ere enabled to hold theta
fres from taxation, Whilet the Govereraent
livid—settlers paid taxes, purchased 'their
lands cheaply, made ell improvement's' , and
each ring of the axe or each- furrow inade'
by the plough, increased .the 'value of, suc11-.
company's untaxed estates. In twebeyyears•
the.taxes paid by others, the contiol of the-
ponspaey over subsidiary railroad dOyelop-
ment,.their power to select or reject. Lauda • . .
and to cheese station and building loge
tions, whilst they greatly enriched the'•
company; would not unnaturally inertias!,
the burthen- of taxes carless fortunate land ,
Owners, and to some extent retard settle-
ment. We could understand et:ea:option
from taxation, if the compeby bound them.
Selves to put into' the market • every year
Certain tracts of land at an upset puke •
ranging from 01 to* 02 per acre ; there
would then be reason: in exemption; but
exemption without guaranteed Weil, or sale-
Offetings,-end well defined improvement,
such as would induce settlernentOs'
certainly e •diengerous • experiment;
for from tlie contract and the bill giving it
effect, therawould appear to be no certainty • ,
thet , the present company might net dis
pose of their entire charter te a lietV•iirne,
in fact, there is 'nothing wo can Seek) pre- .
vent en entire disposition •of the road and.
its sttbsidies fuia privileges to "any Per -
S0118 or 'corporations," foreigu or domestic,
who retglit desire to negotiate:for it ; there .
is nothing that- We can c making it, 4.17,
cuilibent upon the company to inete and •
pperaee thieread loitger than just such thine
as, it pleases them ; nothing Myles.; the
Government that inn power that should bo•
mtereleed, net !slily wink; the road is
tieder eonstructien, but during its operation,
and eXisteneo. • Thtft an Executive Beard
of Commissioners should be provided in the!
interest of the country, not unnaturally
suggests itself. 'We owlet, however,dice .
cover thee any such, or similar, provision -
is Made. From the contract, eve Onnot.
eeo, if the.eomputny foiled in completing .
ono of the three great seotiOns that moll
failure would deprive them of the control
over the other links iu this great national'
hi411Wityl henee. Parliament, in considering
this important leeislation,eininot too closely
scrutinize the provisions of every clause, ,
and the .heitritie of such upon the future
welfare of a great territory.—OttaWe Citi-
zen. .
'chance of that humili-ation he had exposed
himself, and in order to avoid it I, do not
doubt he has passed Many anxious hours
struggling with the men in Whiase toils he
had placed himself, endeavoring to Obtain
'Herne tenni% less bad than those to which
he has been obliged to submit in the end.
,They knew the First Minister cohld net
tXord to deelaie that what he had
stated vies not correct, and that they
could pro him to stipulation after stipu-
lation, point after point, additional bound
after additional pound.of flesh, until they
had their fill. A. contract might heve been
presented containing Altogether other
terms, which might have been 'worthy of.
our etloption. This contract is worth Only
our rejection. shall not venture to hope
that this House will reject it, but I do not
.deubb that an inditiazit country, although
yotewill not give it tirao now to raise its
voice, will take the, krat opportunity to In-
flict it. summary penalty upon those por-
SOna—eflenders for a, second time,e-who,
having once betrayed the:Counttys .1topor
and been forgiven, have taken advantage of
the opportunity which a too conficling pee-
plo
conferred upon tliena to betray in the
same transaction her meet material end
'vital interestS, (Loud chore.)
A DETVitININED tdriCinti. •
•An Oalt•rdoki, eminiser nisei tit'S.cd to,
1'o= 10005, Doc, 18.. --hast evening 3.•01iii1chi1l.
Watson, private seeretary to . Col. Williams,
;Tr:, entered the Queen's Hotel and asked for it
room, and. Watson undressed for bed. Not Put-
ting in an 'appearance this morning an effort
Was made. to call him from the outside and that
notproving effectual, the door was opened when'
lie . was observed lyNg dead. Investigatbni
showed that he had aceomplislied the task of
taking Ms life by windin'g it silk handltorphief
amnia his neek mad tying it ti-glift thus Cans.
Ng strangulation. Be had boon di•iiiking very
freely for several days, mid from the remarks
which lie niade yesterday it is supposed that he
was milli° verge of del irium tremens. He lemies
it wife and child, who were 4enly made aware of
the tuleide by heciring it on the street on their
way down town about 10 o'clock, this mornilig,
An inquest willl be hold this afternoon..Ilio
unfortunate fellow tried to kill himself the other
day by banging, but the article to which he WAS
sufwelland would tot bear his weight. . •
A fitetory bee boon • dikoVered alt kit.
\vaulter) from which 12,000 pounds of Oleo-
margarine are sent out every day, with
no marks to distinguish.. it from gennine
butter,-
.
The Wellington pentity COUneil have
voted the Guelph reborterea5 each.. If the
young men itee, uot admitted members of
the Syndicate Seen, they will be prepared
to buy municipal bonds.
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