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The Huron News-Record, 1889-11-06, Page 4`l The Huron News -Record 31.59 a Year --41.251n Advance. tar The man dour not do justice to hie bueinees who spends less to advertising than he does in rent.—A. T. 8TAWA8T, the millionaire merchant f New York. Wednesd;iY, Nor. 6tlt 1889 BY THE PEOPLE. At the convention which nomin- ated him as the Cousevvative candi- date in East Huron for the Local Legislature, Mr. A. H. Musgrove declared himself in favor of the election of sheriffs and registrars by the people. This is somewhat radi- cal, although theoretically in har- mony with sound conservative prin- ciples. While not able to go quite so far as we opine Mr. Musgrove would, we believe that county offi• dale should be called to office by the voice of the people of the coun- ty. It is questionable, however, if a direct popular vote would be any improvement on the present mode of appointment by the government at Toronto. All the same Mr. Musgrove has shown himself in touch with the people in their grow- ing desire to assume a more direct voice in the selection of county offici- als. Since Mr. Mowat's accession to power the right of the people to control the appointment of county officials has been very much en- croached upon and their local gov- erning rule in many ways serioualy infringed upon. The appointment of gaoler, license inspectors, division court clerks etc., have been taken altogether away from the counties. But while we are pleased to note that Mr. Musgrove, as one of the people, advocates the extension of their power to select their county or local officials, it would seem that a less expensive and yet conserva- tive popular mode of appointing local officials would be through or by county councils. Those bodies are under the direct control of the people ; the nearest responsible leg- islative body to .the masses and just sufficiently removed from them to not be swayed by the popular clamor and clap trap so often in- dulged in by demagogues in the more general elections. Mr. Musgrove deserves well of the elec- torate of East Huron and the Pro- vince for, at this stage of affairs in our Province, calling the attention of the public to these matters, for upon investigation they will find that it has been the policy of the Mowat government to rob the peo- ple of their local governing powers and centralize them in an oligarchy at Toronto, ivhich in turn is largely governed by a hierarchy that is ab- solutely beyond the control of the people. It may bo asked : Where would you got more capable and de- serving officials than Sheriff Gibbons and Registrar Dickson )yell, we do not think it would be a hazardous assertion to say that these gentlemen would be the choice of the people if the appoint- ing power rested in the county council or even directly with the people by popular vote at the polls. But it might also be asked where would you get a more efficient and popular official than the present • county clerk and he was appointed by the county council. The point is, the people of the county or their county parliament, the county coun- cil, should have the appointing of their local officials instead of having that power invested in a body one or two hundred miles away, which is not so directly in touch with the people and consequently not so capable, if ever so willing, of carry- • ing out the well understood wishes of the electorate in the selecting of public servants of the county. DO AS YOU WOUL)) DE DONE TO. In another column we are pleas- ed to be able to give the criticism of and 'exceptions taken by Rev. Father West of Goderioh to our article of last week on the 5th of November. We will premise our Duke of, Norfollt, wag Convicted of being engagad in tt)ein and exocut- eCl, and the Duke of Northumber- land followed him." These at least were not very very obscure conspira- tors. Then, Par. 791, "Pope Gregory resolved to support, his military efforts in Ireland lay a fresh mire present remarks thereanent by say- sionnry effort 'to invade England. ing that our objectionable article Philip (of Spain) would invade set down naught in malice against England if the o0 operation of the those who differ from us, nor sought Cstholica was secured, and the to extenuate aught in the conduct of seminary priests and Jesuits were to Protestants. Our remarka were suggested by the dictates of tolor- auce ;animated by a spirit of charity toward all and are permeated by an expressed desire to do to others as we would be done to. We are pleased to nota that Rev. Mr. Weat ie unwilling to accuse 08 of falsehood or misrepresentation. We know that he cannot accuse ns of faleehood, for that would imply that we made a statement believing it to be untrue. We eau challenge hien or any one else to show that, during a 25 years connection with the Tress as a writer or publisher, we have been knowingly the author of a published falsehood or even of the minor offence of misrepresenta- tion. We will now proceed to show, that we neither stated a falsehood nor were guilty of misrepresentation when we said that "while condemn ing the system that led up to these (the massacre of St. Bartholoutew and the bloody acts of "bloody" Mary—and we may now add the massacres of Protestants by Philip of Spain and the Duke of Alva on the continent in accordance with the same system) let us not forget the retaliatory measures of Elizabeth by which Catholics were put to death for being such, but priests only, lay- men were not molested for being such" (Catholics.) The italicised portion above Father West considers to be a false- hood or a misrepresentation, In order to properly understand the matter we may quote from "Green's Larger History of tho English People" the circumstances that led the historian to uae,subatanti- ally, the objectiouabte''tsrards which we repeated and which our critic takes us to task for using. Par. 661, Bonnet, Mary's burning Bishop, asked a youth who was brought before him if "he could bear the fire. The boy at once held his hand in the llama of a candle that stood by." Another boy at the stake, William Brown, asked of a bystander "Pray for me." "I will pray no more for thee than I would for a dog" said Mary's myrmidon. The case of these youths, and many others of au equally persecuting nature, yet rankled in the hearts of the people. These youths were guilty of no offence against the state. "Of the two hundred and eighty whore we know to have suffered during the fait three years and a half of Mary's reign" etc. Par. 666, "Mary clung as tonecious- ly as ever to her work of blood." Par. 691, "The bloodshed, indeed, went on more busily than ever. It had spread from bishops and priests to the people itself, and the sufferers wero sent in batches to the flames." The remembrance of these and the conduct of the Pope instigated, and to some extent palliated, but did not justify the retaliatory measures of Elizabeth. But while her measures were rigorous they were not as a rule directed against laymen, who were considered the dupes of Jesuit missionaries end seminary priests, who, backed by the authority .of the pope preached treason againet the civil as well as ecclesiatical authority of the Queen. Par. 758, "In February, 1569 the Queen was declared a heretic by a bull which assorted in their strong-. est form the papal claims to a temporal supremacy over princes. As a heretic and excommunicate, she was 'deprived of her pretended .L -to the said kingdom' her sub- jects were absolved from allegiance to her, commanded 'not to dare to obey her' and anathemized if they did" * * "Dr. Morton was sent to England to denounce the Queen as fallen from her usurped authority, and to prouounco the speedy issue of the sentence of deposition." Par. 761, "And the plots of his agents threatened the Queen's life." Par. 763, "Enough of theeo conspiracies prepare the way. From Loudon the Jesuits wandered in the dis- guise of captains or serving men, sometimes, even ice the cassocks of the English clergy; through many of the countiea ; and. wherever they went the zeal of the Catholic gentry revived." Those doings, that is the doings of these emissaries of the papal see," the. seminary priests who were English refugees educated at Rorpan Catholic Seminaries. on the continent, and the Jesuits caused "an act, Par. 792, which prohibited the saying of mass In private.houses, increaaed the fine on " recusants to twenty pounds a month and enacted that 'all persons pretending to any power of absolving subjects from their allegiance, or practicing to 'withdraw them to the, Romiah re- ligion, with all persons willingly 80 absolved or reconciled to the see of Rome, shall be guilty of high treason' ." It will bo seen that , Elizabeth acted ice self defence, in support of her crown. The pope made war upon her ; urged her subjects to re- volt both directly by a bull and by the isemivary priests. and Jesuits. Her punishments may have been severe, but were the same defiance of Queen Victoria's authority at- tempted in England in these nacre liberal days, most assuredly would the actors be declared guilty of high treason. It was for high trea- son against the state, for endeavor- ing to deprive the Queen of her Throne, that Catholic laymen wero fined, imprisoned and executed ; not because they were Catholics. And it was for similar offences that many of the priests suffered. Par. 792 : "• No layman was brought to the bur or block under its . provisions "—that is the provisions of the act quoted in the first part of paragraph 792 above quoted --"Tho work of bloodshed was reserved 'wholly for priests, and under Eliza- beth this work was done with a ruthless energy." Their offence was high treason against the state, though the victims of course declar- ed that "religiou was 'their only crime." We have established the correctness of our former statement by quoting ipsissima verba of the modern historian Green, whose re- search, accuracy and fairness are generally acknowledged. As to the number of persons put to death in the reigns of Mary and Elizabeth, undoubtedly the weight of evidence tells against Mary. The above authority, Par. 661, says : "Of the two hundred and eighty whom we know to have suffered during the last throe years and a half of Diary's reign," etc. This was more than was put to death during the whole of Elizabeth's time. Dodd's Church History says : "On the whole more than 160 per- sons were put to death in the reign of Elizabeth." We have drawn this out longer than we intended, but we had to do so to show that however unneces- sarily, harsh Elizabeth may have acted, she acted within her right. If to put persona to death for high treason, conspiring and plotting against the person and crown of the sovereign, is putting them to death for conscience sake, then Elizabeth was guilty, not .otherwise. There is one point more in Rev. Father West's criticises that we shall briefly advert to : "Why did you not at least tell your readers that there was at least good reason for believing that Garnet was innocent" of any complicity in the Gunpowder Ploti Because there is no good reason for so believing. It is pleaded for him that ho only knew of the plot through the confessional. Well, if he know of the plot where- by hundreds of lives were to bo taken, he was morally and legally bound before high heaven and the state to have informed the civil authorities, confessional secret to the contrary. Even on this show - were discovered to arouse fresh ing, ho was an accessory to the crime ardor in the Protestants. The and legally deserving of death. The wife of a laborer named Fortier, at Chicoutimi, Quebec, has just given birth to triplets, all doing well. Tho wife of John Bender, a prominent farmer and politician of Bendersville, Pa., recently gave birth to four infants. The quartette of little boarders are apparently strong and healthy. Both Canada and the United States are under protective systems, and the higher tariff seeing to be more condu- cive to home production, though, relatively, triplets,in Canada under a 22 per cent. tariff is a'botter show- ing than a quartette under a 40 per ,cent. tariff. EDITORIAL NOTES. At the meeting of the National Missionary convention of the Christian (Campbellite) Chucb at Loulevillo, Kentuoky,the other day, Mrs. King, superintoudent of chil- dren's work, showed that $5,000 had been expended on a children's missiouary home at Bilaspur, India. And yet a competent authority states that there are 60,000 vagrant children in the United States home - lees, and uncured for either phy- sically or morally. An advocate of the pseudo equal rights movement asks that its leaders be judged by their own speeches and not by the assertions of their enemies. John Charlton is one of its own leaders, and according to John it is a movement to whitewash the Grits and turn Sir John Mac- donald out of his place.. And which of his speeches will we judge him by 1 When he said that Orange- men should not have incorporation or when he said they were tho fair- haired boys who should have what they asked for. Garnet, who waa wholly innocent of any crime connected with the con- spiracy." "All that had been proved' against bim " say a Lingard,pp.478 and 479, "was that he had nqt betrayed the secret confided to him in con- fession. It was false that the Jesuita' had been the authors of the conspir- aoy,or even held' cona'iltations with them (the conspirators) on the subs ject." Why did you not, at least. There has often been a discordant note Bounded from the capital of Brit - hilt Col uinbia. There has always been a large American element there, and political annexatiou has often been talked of in times past. But times have changed: Owing to the resignation .of Mr. Baker, M. P. for Victoria, an election was held there the other day for a successor. And oven the rouud about anuexationists who favor commercial union as a means to political annexation were afraid to put a candidate in the field. The consequence is that Mr. Thomas Earle, an out and out supporter of the Conaervative Administration and Britieli connexion, was elected without oppositiou. This in tho far west, with Richelieu in Quebec is pretty strong evidence that the sur- render of Canada either politically or commercially, to the United States is not the sort of a grit plank that the opposition can walk to power on. LETTERS TO THE EDITOR 4 124. 'price of fate Goderiob,loaf is rldloulouely high. This argugaent ss about as valid as that because the price of wheat In Chicago Is 50e, and because the price of the rye -meal loaf in Russia is 2cta, therefore the Goderich bakers' charge of 120 per loaf is exorbitant and that of Webb or Nasmyth's 14u loaf of Toronto ie the climax ot "Bakers' Robberies." One conclusion is equally sound with tell your readers that there was at the other; but neither is eorroot. least good reason for believing that Let ua see the facts of the ease. I begin by a direct denial of the state• moat -of these papers. The flour that the bakers of Goderioh use for their bread (I speak Mr. Editor of facts which I know and which the Goder- Leh press may not know) is purchase ed at 05.50 per bbl and not at $4.25. I admit. flour can be bought at $4.25 in Goderich, but I also say that in the pity of Hamilton '!flour" can be bought at as low as 03.00 per bbl. Further;l deny that the best bread in the city of Hamilton is sold at 9cts per loaf. It is both, ridiculous and impossible. Let us take a glance at the bread market of Toronto. Bread is there sold at 12c per loaf by the ordinary baking establishments, nevertheless the best bread cannot bo obtained from Webb or Nasmyth (the acknowledged beads of th4 Tor- onto baking induptry) at leap than 14cts- per loaf. Bread is also sold cheaper than 12c per loaf there. But between the l0c loaf of the side - alley bakery and the 14e loaf of Webb or Nasmyth there is the same difference as between the $3.00 per bbl flour and the choice $5,50 or 06.00 flour. This is a very necessary fact to keep in view;' N.otq in Hamil- ton it is argued bread ia" acid at 9c per :oaf. To this I answer ,that at present there is in Hamilton an extra keen competition maintained between ' the different secondary firms and so the publio, like the lawyer in the oyster story, comes along between the fighters and gets the oyster. But we would like to ask your Goderich brethren as to the composition of this "oyster" gift to the public. As in the printing busi- ness so in other brauches of trade there are many and devious tricks. Now I make bold to say that the chuckling public of Hamilton are getting a yery stale and unpalatable "oyster" for their bargain.. It could- n't be otherwise. In this cheap loaf of 9cts, cheap flour is unquestion- ably kneaded. And the Goderich: croakers must remember well that if in buying a watch, for instaace they be unwilling to pay for a genu- ine "English lever" or an "Elgin" ; in this land, in their very town, they can purchase a "Waterbury." But the Goderich bakers keep nothing so shoddy as "Waterbury watch" bread. The superior goodness of our bread can be be clearly established. This very day on which I write one of our bakers has received an order for 32 loaves for a Seaforth person, who, though bread is sold in Seaforth at loo per loaf, is yet satisfied to pay us 12c (and then pay the freight besides) because of the extra goodness of our Goderich bread. This is but one in- stance of many that can be cited. Garnet waa. innocent? 'fine, of course, would not answer your pur- pose. At most there were orate thirteen Catholics connected with that infamous plot. Why then hold the Catholic Church responsible for the conduct of these men ? Your philosophical way of reasoning would hold Protestant denominatious re- sponsible for murder, adultery, sui- cide,.gunpowder plots and hummer - able, other crimes committed by their members. But this is neither logical nor just. Speaking of the conepira-. tore, Cobbett Bays, page 189 and 190: "They amounted to only about thir- teen, and all except three or four, io rather obscure situations in life " It "was fully and judicially proved that the Catholics in general neither ins stigated nor approved the Gunpow. der Plot." "The number of conspir. ators," says Thompson; page 195, "was gradually raised to thirteen." What a whirlwind is raised every 5th of November about these thirteen meo, whose conduct Catholics as well as Protestants condemn? You apeak of bloody Mary, but you care.- fully arefully avoid to tell us of the crue, deeds of bloody Elizabeth. "Eliza- beth put, in one way or another, more Catholics to death, in one year, for -bot becoming apostates to their religion which she had sworn to he here, and to be the only true one, than Mary put to death In her whole reign.—Cobbett, page 143. I shall conclude this article in Cobbett's words : "This would," says be, "be enough of the famous gunpowder plot; but, since it has been ascribed to bloody -mindedness, as the natural fruit of the Catholic religion; * • let us see a little what Protestants have attempted, and done, in this blowing -up way. This King James as be himself averred, was nearly being assassinated by bia Scotch Protestant subjects, Earl Gowry and his associates ; and, after that, nar- rowly escaped being blown up, with all his attendants, by the furious Protestant burghers of Perth. See Collier's Church History, Vol. II., page 663 and 664. Then again, the Protestants in the Netherlands, form• ed a plot to blow up their governor the Prince of Parma, with all the nobility and magistrates ot those coubtries, when assembled in the city of Antwerp. But the Protestants did not always fail in their plots, nor were those wbo engaged in them obscure individuals. • For, as we have seen in paragraph 309, this very King .James's father, the King of Scotland, was, in 1567, blown up by gunpowder and thereby' killed. This was doing the thing effectually. Here was no warning given to any body ; and all the attendants and servants, of whatever religion and of both sexes, except such as escaped by mere accident., were remorselessly murder- ed along with their master. And who was this done by ? By blood, thirsty Catholics' ? No : but by the lovers of the'Avangel,' as the wretch• es called themselves ; the followers of that Knox to whom a monument has just been erected,or is now erecting at Glasgow. The conspira- tors, on this occasion, were not thirteen obscure men, and those, too, who had received provocation enough to make men mad ; but a body of noblemen and gentlemen, who really had received no provocation at all froth Mary Stuart, to destroy whom was more the object than it was to destroy her husband. "* • Let us hear no more, then, about tho bloodthirstiness of the Catholic re- ligion ; and, if we must still bsve our 561 rf November, let the `moral' dis- ciples of Knox, the inhabitants of 'Modern Athens,' have their loth. of February. Let them, too, (for it was Protestants that did the deed) have their 30th of January, the anniverasry of the killing of the son of this same king James. Nobody knew better than James himself the history of his father's and his mother's end. He knew that they both bad been murdered by Protestants, add that, too, with circumstances of atrocity quite unequalled in the annals of human - infamy ;• and therefore he himself was not for vigorou0, measures against the Catholics in general, on account of the plot ; but love of plunder in his minions prevailed over him ; and now began to blaze, with fresh fury, that Protestant refor- mation spirit, which, at last, gave him a murdered:son and successor, as it had already given him a mur- dered father and mother." Yours sincerely, T. WEST, P.P. Goderich, Nov. let, 1889. We wish 0 to be dtstaeetly ,understood that we do mit hold ourselves reeptn,siblejor theppinions Expressed by Correspondents.—•l ;u. Nave -RB - CORD. Editor News -Record. SIR,—Unwilling to accuse you of falsehood or misrepresentation, I leave the public to judge your recent statements in reference to the Gun- powder Plot. You say by the re- taliatory measures of Elizabeth, " Catholics were put to death for being such, but priests only, laymen were not molested." Now, let us see if what you say about lay Catho- lics in Elizabeth's reign is true or not. In Lingard's history of Eng- land, p. p. 433,'438, 4391 and 4401we read : "The first victims who felt the vengeance of this tribunal, called the High Commission Court, were the Catholics ;• from the Catholics its attention was directed to the Puri.. tans." °+Some Puritans died martyrs to their religious principles, but their sufferings bore no .comparison to those of the Catholics." "Eliza- beth continued to persecute all her subjects who did not practise that religious worship which she prac- used." "No Catholic could enjoy security even in the privacy of his own house, where he was liable at all hours, generally in the night, to be visited by a magistrate at the head of an armed mob." Flow can those facts before you that the you, Mr. Editor, tell us with Catholic laity was not molested ? The truthfulness of Lingard's history is admitted on all hands. "Hie work," says Chambers, "was subject- ed to a rigid scrutiny by Dr. Allen in two elaborate articles in the Edin• burgh Review, and by Rev. W. Todd in his defence of the character of Cranmer." By the Act of Uniformity a heavy fine was imposed on Catho- lics, whenever they absented them- selves from church, "as establisheu by the law." "This," says) Thompson, a Protestant, page 182, "bore heavily on the Roman Catholics." What would be your feelings if you were forded by law to attend the Catholic church every Sunday ? Would you submit to this law ? No, you would not. You would be the first in the rebellion to carry the flag ot "civil and religious liberty." Collier, a Protestant history which has been used in the public schools, refers us to this unbearable tyranny of Eliza- beth In speaking of the Act of Uniformity, he says, page 178, that it "forbade under heavy penalties all worship except in the established form. Many Roman Catholics suffer- ed death by these laws." You will understand now that not only the priests, but the Catholic laity also were molested, and with a vengeance for conscience' sake. Garnet, you say, saves executed for complicity in the Gunpowder Plot. Why did you not tell your readers if you wished to be just that there are Catholic snd Protestant historians who declare that Garnet was unjustly put to death ? Here is what Cobbett,. a Protestant of the Church of England, says, in his Iliatory of the Protestant Reformation, page 191: "The rest of them (the conspirators) were execut- ed, and Eatso Cho famous Jesuit, Further we have never raised a loud complaint against the Goderich printers when it was found by our town fathers that the public were being taxed too high for their print- ing, when as you know, Mr. Editor, Glinton,would do the same at a much lower rate. The bakers alone of dealers seem to be the sole mark of these editors. We would suggest to our generous friends to "call off their dogs" awhile, and if .it is necessary for them to have an outlet for their croaking to give the public mind a change by turning the engines of their plaints against the new plumb- er's establishment just set up in Goderich. 'trate the jibes against the plumber hairs become a veritable chestnut, but much snore so have become the croaks of the Goderich press against the town bakers. We are not a rich cooperation, our bank books show small assets, our mode of living is not luxurious nor regal. It never strikes the public mind with envy at our happy lot. We have to work hard, early and late. We ask not for wealth. We have long since lost the golden visions of our youth that we could reap the ducats of a millionaire from the bread harvest. We only ask a decent living from our patrons, wherewith to keep in comfort our wives and children.. We have always had too much to do to take • very seriously the continuous complaints of our press, but at last we have arisen and now appeal to the publio .on the justice of our' -cause. Thank- ing you Mr. Editor for the use of your valuable columns, 1 remain yours, sec, GODERICH BAKER. THE GODERICFI BAKERS. Editor News -Record. DEAR Sia•—It is generally thought in this district that your sad -eyed Goderich brethren of the quill—the "Signal" and "Star—are given over to croaking not a little. They pose as the redoubtable mouth -pieces of "progress"—and occasionally of "pov- erty." For a long time now they have been harping their peevish com• .plaints against the balcing fraternity of Goderich. Occasionally they let up on their mournful song of "Bakers' Robber- ies," but in the stilly atmosphere of a dearth of news again they come forth and like the fretful cricket by the lonely hearth they chirp their mournful lay. Let us remember then our breth- ren's weakness before we come seri- ously to face the subjeot of their croaking. They say the public are oharged too much for bread. It is argued by them that because bread sells for 90 per loaf in Hamil- ton and because flour sells for 04.25 per bbl in Goderioh therefore the In And About The County, —Mr. Wm. Drafter, of Thamess villa, has already turned out about 10,000 tipple barrels this season. This means over 820,000 has been paid fur apples in that neighbor- hood. —The Coroner's Jury at Gait found that the train which killed young ll)keniau, the groeers wagon driver, was going 'too fast, and re. commedned the Grand Trunk Co., to show that corporations have a soul "by dealing promptly hnd generously with the widowed mo• ther who has been deprived of her eldest son and chief support." —A tramp entered the residence of Mr. Wilcox, near Welland, on Wednesday and demanded fool. He was given some cold meat, but this was not to 1110 taste, and he ordered Mrs. Wilcox to furnish bins with a cup of tea and became very abusive. Mr. Wilcox appeared on the scene at this juncture, and the tramp failing to leave, he was club• bed into insensibility. — Mr. George Hess, of Zurich, has received a patent for his electric clock. The invention is one f