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The Huron Expositor, 1934-07-27, Page 1\ 9 $ 511 is tias Sesentstelatetth Year (Miele lined* 34716 if uronVeteransl of Great For Their Annual Githering Splendid Program of Sportg, and Games is Enjoyed as Huron County Veterans Hold. A/urinal Picnic in Clan McGregor 'Square. TWO ACCIDENTS MAR OTHERWISE FINE DAY , Ohm MeGregoe Park, Bayfield, was crowded Wednesday as hundreds of veteran's of the Great War, with their enmities, hue'adted the res•ort town for the annual veterans' picnic. The af- fair was ;sponsored by the Huron !branches of the Canadian Legion. The prograan included Massie by the Canton Band and lOng list of sports elvents. Fred Bur -obeli, Brussels, zone representative, was:in &large of the Program Two painful weakish marred the otherwise perfect day. • As Jack Cook, "sae 6, -Clinton,. was playing on' the tmeunted gum in the park, he loot his balance and- fell on the cement base, breaking his ieft, arm. Amother casuality ow -tiered, during the men's baselball battle -when Ed- die Anderson, age 4,0, of Exeter, erait his left hand between the sec- ond and third fingers, when catchin,g The ball. Both were attended by DT. Shaw of .Clintort. • -Moe ladies on tbe Refresarment Conumittee had* a giant task but ,the throngs of people were well served at long tables placed under the trees. The convener of the c,omknittee was Mrs. (De.) Thompson, .of Clinton, Who was assistbed by representatives from the variousobranches. !Baseball games attracte-d a large crowd. The first galmie was; played by Clinton girls againet a picked Itean2 teem other places. The latter proved themselves the winners with ia some af 20 against 11. Another game of baseball played lby picked teams of the men, resulted in the winners 'being victorious with a score of 14 to So Seaforth Children • Win The razes were well contested, ev- ery event being overflowing with en- tries. Theteesults were as follows,: Mesa, years and u.ndler, Jack Bradlee, Gerdon Thant:es; eight and oundee, 'Kenneth Miller, Douglas Ring; 12 and under, Larne Ibbeeton, Seeforth, Bob Clarkson, Clinton; 16 ;and under, George Brown, Godes-kb, and under, Jean McIntyre, Dorothy N. McLeod; 8 and un,d,ers Doreen Morrison, Irene Bradley; •12 and un- der, Glades Clarke, Bayfield, Mar- guerite Barlow; 16 and under Agnes laampbell, Goderieh, Marguerite Nigh, 'Ladies' Events—Veterans' wiyes: elleme Bluevale; novelty raze, Anna Cornish, Brueefieldi, Jack Snazel, Goderieh babies were adjedged the finest at the picnic attee the judigles, Mrs. D. E. Campbell, of Goderich, arid Mrs. (Dr.) Themrpston„ of Clin- ton, both former nurses; had corra pasted their ,difficult task. The. prize for the baaies one year and under was awarded to Clara Garrick, d'augh- ter of 'Mai. and Mrs. Wan. Garrick, of Goderich, and that for tw,o. years and =der to Bobbie Bell, son ,of Mr. and Mrs. It. W. Bell, of Goderich. - Carangs Win 2-1 'A football game between Carlingo and an all star leant of the -Huron, League ended 2-1 in favor of the Londaners. Carlings scored the only goal in the firet half; all stars tied early in the' second half and; Carlingo Charles names and Thomas_ Johnson of the Seaforth Lawn Bowling. Club, captured the Die- iStretford on Tuesday. TheY re- ceived a large shield. and will now - be entered in the pravincial fin-. als. Their final game was with Milverton. A rink, consisting of Winter and M. A. Reid, tied with Lastowel after a 20 -end game for the district rink champion- ship. The Seaforth rink lost the play-off. FAILS TO 'RECOGNIZE HIS OWN BROTHER Vincent C. Kelley is Home After 20 Years' Absence. "When,. marn walked into his of- fice iSaturd'ay and asked the rate of postege to "United ;States, Postmaster John C. Kelly thosight the visitor must have been a.ffected by the heat. He didn't recognize his Waiter Vin- cent 'C. of San Francisco, 'Calif., Whom he had not seen in twenty yearrs," •begins a despatch front' Windsor in recent daily papers. ' A`Fresth from San Francisco which has been torn by a form of civil war this past week," the despatch con.- tinues, "Mr. Kelly expressed doubt as to whether the Border Cities_ had been through even a mild form of the depression, such .was the contrast -beirweenth,e..happy and contented ap- pearance of jrts citizens as compared with the anxiety which four years of economic chaos Ilene ,written. into the faces of his fellow. countrymen." Asked for an eyewitnees acco-unt of the San Francisoo ,etrike, the Cali- forrea advertising man, was unable to help. "We were mon at home when all those incidents occurred," Mr. Kelly (Continued'on Page 5) • Turned Into Singles Children returning to the public school in Septerniber will be surprised to find that the double seats that have been in the school for years, have been turned into desks seating but one student The Board is hav- ing the old ,desks out dawn by Mr. Harry Hart. 'The Board has also purchased an automatic stoker, which, it is expect- ed, -will save considerably on coal. • scored th,e winning goal in the last five minutes. The ,teams were: All Stars — Goal, C. Ferguson ; baeks, Higgin•s, Sangster; half backs, Percy Little, Rutherford, The:meson; forwards, Weston, Watson, Steiss, Garter. Wilson. - Carlings---Coni, Vincent; backs, Brown, .Magill; -forwards, Allen, Hey- wood, Collins', Giller, Poxon; subs., Bruce, Ferrester. Sidelights of Elgin I published the East Elgin Reform- er for five years. The °Mee and our home were located in Aylmer, the can-goodi tow -n. in the heart of East Mere In. the campaign of 1911, the Efeipimurn and bits sone -then a young lad, now Hon. laitchell F. Heebner:. altarta, is enlarge in Yarmosith townehle. The late Dr. Verne, whom the older edople of Egmondville and Seaford: will recall, was a native ef Sparta. 'The neighborhood was set- tled by Quakers tram Pennsylvania, and if memory sea-ves me fairly, the 1 may as well put it dowln here as further on, the name "Refonner" atandis out in Elgin, for there are ante of the men of '27. So ohe will see at lateen:, that •Grites are What Rom 'Aleceender MacKenzie described &ens to be, aeleare•Grit, all sand, no Arta 'South Reran and Eest Elgin and St. Thomas rubbed shoulders. The desktmatte of the late M. Y. MeLean * the Legislature Of Ontario was the Elgins 'Sob" Duternoee, late .of the Mill road, is now the retired poat master , „St, :Thorne, anea George Baldwin, who. as a bey washed in The Pi- TON FLOUR MILLS PROPERTY Council Authorizes Chief Snell To Ring Curfew 13e11. CIVIC HOLIDAY AUG. 6 A special' meeting . of council held Friday evening to coraalete the ta,k- big over Of the Wolverton Floer cussion Of rlicing With particular reference to juiveniles. Mayor A. D. Sutherland presided aria Reeve Crosier and Councillors el:hart and L. Eisenhart were pree- ent. The taking lover of the Wolverton Flour Mille is the climax of a eon - carted effort of die finance committee to secure arrears. of taxes. In '1927 th-e town sold the. mill to the Woe:er- ten *company on the easy payment plan with. twelve years to nay. The Company proceeded to spend many thousands of dollars in 'refitting and Modernizing the mill with the result that , the mill the town owns. to-dary is of many times the vat:se ,cpf the one sold in 1927. -B-usiness, however, slackened and the mill was closed a few years age The :Wolverton Com- pany went behind, both on taxes and on yearly payments, with the result that some time ago the 'Oompany *of- fered to turn the property oeer to the town, lock, stack and barrel. Fri- day night's meeting was called to Having been- idle foe some years, the mill has become dirty and the belts and machinery need oiling to preserve theme Ma yor Su'therlan,d pointed out. He wished council to spend a few 'dollers to Make the nec- essary dean up, but council did not concur. (Continued on Page 5) Murray - -Gibson Clan Hold PiCnic we eat s Sway in District The fourth ,lYfurrey-Csibson reunion 'was 'held ThUTS,Clay JO/Wett'S Grove, Bayfield; Des.pitte the heany down- pour of rain which lasted from noon till airnlost two o'clock between 70 end 75 members of .the elan gathered and enjoyed a splendid p-rogratn. A good program of races was run off and also some novelty,races which ca.used lots of merriment for both old and young. A very plea,sant feature of the picnic was the presence of 'Mists; Mayorle and Florence ;Coutts of Neepena, granddaughters of Me. Jno. A. Murray of E,graondville, who, al- though not being able to be present rbhis year, very thoughtfully sent two or three prizes for then races. A bountiful suptper concluded 'a success- ful picnic. The prize winners were: Children, a years and under, Madeline Wilson, Lois Richardson; 'boys, 8 years and under, Mervyn Nutt. Lloyd Haney; girls, 8 years and under, Ruth Mc- Clure, Marian Wilson; boys, 12 years, Clare Haney, Harvey Mott; girls., 12 years, Hazel Wilson, Alice Townsend; young ladiet, Evelyn Wilson, E. Broadfoot; young men, Bob 1VLcClure, Lorne Wilson; Maggie and Jiggs, necktie race, Mrs. R. McClure and A. Henderson,, Mrs. A. Henderson, and R. McClure; soda biscuit, Clare Han- ey, Harvey Nott; chum race, Lorne Wiloon and -ales. R. McClure, Bob McClure end Evelyn Wilson; kicking ,the slipper, Violet Tyndall, Mfrs. Hen- derson; cloth,espin race, Haevey Nott, Mary Stewart; weight guestsin,g, Har- vey Nott, Mrs. A. Broadfoot; blind cane race, (ladies) Dorothy Broad - f opt, nretn ) , Lorne_ Wilson; oldest person, Robert McKay; youngest pea-- grandmiather, Mrs. B. Nat; coming fartheet distance, Misses M. and F. Coutts. erosperous merchant in the Railroa,d City, In Aylmer resided former Sea - forth and Egmondville people, Dr. and Mrs. 'Fear, -tee latter Maggie Smith, daughter of Andrew Smith, end Mrs. James Wright, the fanner an• d en outstanding Mehra:ex of the old IseEktemph... Fire Brigade, world champions. Janes Weight was born in Vienna, a village of East Elgin, made 'famous by Thomas Ealsop, a scheol pal et Jim's, and a relative of Mes. Wright's. Dr. Woods, ,eldest eon of the late Charles Woods of Seatforth (grain buyer); Was a prominent citizen, a Seottash rite memiber of the Masonic in East Elgin. Johrrmie; Woods Wes • Inametive engineer out a Strat- ford,, at the age of 23 years. That shows the Mentality and integrity Of tele man. A boy at the throttle, ;,was game achievement le the Old railroad days. Not statiefied, he studied and became a doctor -a dentistay, 'Ina a geed one. have reason rbo know, for he rolled 'out a ten -dollar Uncle Sam toodageihdets to this idlay. Clinics, Mid that "Dee" Woods 'had. cancer He retard new .vegetable diet in We Landon Laneet est its Mee for that Malediy. sate tatted it. Hitt VOTi, Vetter (Centinued on Page 4) Local Dealer Here C FIE OF F PLAY OFF G been the let, et oltizens• of Westeen Ontaiio. this .week Met Werth and) lettered thirty ,ana Ortasdegreea be, low zero bettfasterehort months' ego, posting up recoedeaat the otaer end ef the wale. • Teenaeaateres .over 90' have beenaLhe us:valid:ant and on one or the occasionsehOsinercury elienbea above the century Marls. • • • Wander and,„ rain stones last Thursday failed-. to ;break th,e heat wave Weida has held sway in this ,distaict for *avast few weeks, On Thu-red:1y of this. reek Tain is threat- ening and' respite from the heat ap- Grains have. corn .along fast `and harvesting Operations awe well under wayt in the district. Spring grains are good,' farmers soya- • SEND APPPCATIONS Not Known as :Yet Whether There Will Be Beet Whether or not "authorities" to ;sell beer in Huron County will be is- sued is still a moot question. It is understood that 'hotels. in those nen- icatalities in the county which voted dry will not be allowed to sell but, according to reports, one Clinton ho, telkeeper has forwarded his applica- tion. Clinton is under local option. Applicatioes were received by Sea - forth hotels on 'Monday and it is un- derstood. in at least one case, have been- returned with the necessary fee. The result is being awaited with Mt- te rest. peers Receive • Lastructions Traffic and ether prOvincial officers the district received instructions; fran: Torento .Wednesday as to. the future enforcement of the Liquor Control Act with itsaiew beer amend - There is no change with respect to consumptian in .public OT in other than private residences or licensed plaiees and the opening of cartons and .drinking of beer en route from Lon- don or ;Stratford in Huron County -will not be tolerated, -constables stated. The only difference now is that 'a' permit is not needed to cover the consignment, something, the con - 'stables said, that would make a check up more difficult • St. Thomas Church Assists at Centenial Ginn the 'Wolverton Flour Mill property has -been taken over by the town, the Company has arrangeca with 'Mrs Thelmias Dickson to handle its products in Seater -6h and district. Mr. Dickson will carry a large stock et hie store here. Mr. Den 'Darrodh, who has been in charge of the mill heee far a nombe,r Mix-up Occurs In Golf Date The congregation of St. George's their 100th birthday this week and invited the people of the Deanery of Huron to join: in thanItsgiving with A 'large numlber of people were pres,ent on Tuesday evening; certain of the clergy who home served in the parish in past years, clergy of the deanery, ministers of bhe several con- gregations in Goderich, and members of several Anglican choirs were pres- ent and assisted io the th•anksgiving service. Mrs. George Thorne, Miss Clara Pinkney, Miss Josephine Edge, Mr. A. Williams, Mr. F. Bartlette, Th•omas Jacksen, Church Warden, and Canon E. Appleyard, who acted as Bishop's chaplaie, were present from St. Thomas' C'hurch, Seale:loth. • At Relief Meeting Representativee of the Se,aforth Golf and Country Club Who travelled to Stratford to take part in a oche- dule'd district league match on Wed- 's:es:lay, found on, arriving at the Stratford Club that a mixtup had; oc- 'eurred'tin dates and even the Strat- ford playere wera not on hands The team _included J. E. laeating, "J. M. Hinohley, Nelson 'Carrelno and, • Seaforth Soft Ball Team Loses To Toronto Visitors. STUDENTS ON TOP Benefield teek the first football 2-0 en Teesday evening at,. „Banisse •field. The second game will be play- ed 'on 'Saturday at the recreation grounds wear. goals to count on the round. Egmondville missed Don Dale from their line-up end were 'cer- tainly weakened by his absence. The 'Benefield burgh, however, -were el:tying a stead,* game right through and looked rale. better team on the nice comer •and; illotherterd mis- sed a ;golden topportienity to score. Eetnon,dville then. made a rush but about ten yards. Wilson Wright took a corner le tc Ibut it went wide out ih front or the goal. Shortly after ville posts. Benefield put on an at- tack that kept Egmondrille in' their :halt -of the fi.eld for allsout ten .esin- tled up, Rutherford made a pass to N.orman Baird, who placed the ball just under the bar in th,e 'left hand corner of the goal. 'McGee had no chance be save. Shortly after Baird .again, scored from a. melee near the Egraondeille goal. Baird. kicks with his left foot' and has a pretty. sine shot. • Egmondville then put on a -fair displa.y of ;ball and made Lavis,..punch •out two hot shots frasn .straight out' .in front., Brucefieldl•were not long 'in (Continued. On Page 4) . Mayor A. D. Sutherland was in Toronto Wednesday atteeding a meeting of Mayors and Reeves of Ontario, called by Hon. David Grail, Minister of Welfare, to discuss the relief situation. , Questions dealing with relief were thoroughly discussed. Soft Coal for hreshing Police on Look Out For Bank Robbers Hi-et:way Traffic Officer J. W. Cal- lender received word Thursday to be on the esolteut foe a light sedan, No. R -O634, containing taree men. The men are said to have held up a branch ,af the Bank of 'Montreal in Toronto Thursday 'interning and escaped with $20,Q00. They are thought to heve been beading this way. Treasurer to Sell Lands for Taxes Lists of tax arrears totalling $11,- 500 were on Monday mailed to vari- ous Reevee by County Treasurer 'Erskine. They-ineolve 15 out of 24 mu ni c ipali ties in Huron County. There are lake front lots at Bayfield and in Colborne township, Morris, Colborne and Howick townships lead in farmers in arrears' and Bruseels tops the urban municipalities. The list will be publis.hed in the Ontario Gazette of August 4th and lists of respective anunicipalities in- volved. This is being done for the first time. !Heretofore only the nos tee of insertion of complete list was inserted in county newspapers, and it was claimed only a baker's dozen ever saw the list in the Ontario Gaz- ette. The change was autherized by county council in June. The sale will take place N.avember 7th. N.CLUFF 8.r. SONS DUBLIN Curfew First pissed aboat forty years ago, 1Seaforth's curfew, bell byta. law is at last eaning into . own after a rest Of many years. Clerk a. A. Wilson does nea linear or remember when the by-Ipt was first' Imaged, but in le07 was re -written and included in the town's consolidated, by-laws. The bell was rung first on Satur- day night at 9 pen. and is ex-, pected to have a beneficial effect on children fifteen years of age and under - COMMENDS MAYOR ON RELIEF BOOKS District Inspector Completes the Audit of Relief 'That the 'administration cif . relief in Seeforth during the past year has beet extcellent, is the gist of- the con- tents of a letter receiteed this week by Mayor A. D. Sutherland„ relief office,r, from. W: J. McCully, Inspector of District 3, Me. McCully recently 'corneleted les audit and inspection of the loaal relief books. The letter .received is as follows:— "I regret very much that I was noe able to meet yau when in Seaford:. hate teompleted the auditing of your relief vouchers and books for the past. seaoon from October to May, and find, everything in No. 1 condition. Your books are kept very accura.tely and the people seem to be receiving adequateseetlief so far ae "I might suggest that you ask your mercha-nts to specify on their bills, the weights and prices' of the differ- eitit comknodities, so that -the in • as well as the, Relief Departinent can eheok up. "This is th,e only suggestion Thrive to make and I mieht say -bhat your Town of Seaf,orth seems to be doing bee best for those in needs , Yours very truly, Inspector, District No. 6." The weights and prices referred to in the above letter apply to a com- modity selling for say' 9 cents pee pound or three pounels for a quarter, when the price shoal:41)e entered as 8 and one-third cents per pound, and eot nine cents. , Recent visitors! were: Rev. Father Michell, New York, an•d his mother, Mrs. Minnie Miehell, Toronto, with Mr. and' Mae. James Krauskopf; Bro- ther Augestin,e, Montreal, with his parents, Mr. and Mpe. James Cron- in; LOUIS latatith-elres, and MTS. P. Matthews, Detroit, with Mrs. K. Stapleton; Miss Julia Kenny, Lan- don, wite her brothers, Philip and Frank Kenny; George Groves of St Th,ornas with friends. and • Mrs. Jas. Kraus,kopf re- turned to Toronto with Father Wm. Michell and bis. moth,er, and spent the week enst in the city. Miss M. V. Gil -marry,. Roc'hestea, N.Y., ia visithig at the home of her sister. Mrs. Kathleen Feeney: •Brather Augustine ."of Montreal is the guest of his parents, MT. and Mrs. Jas. Cronin. Mrs. Thos. Molyneaux• spent a week, in Goderich recently. " With friends in London. „ Mitt Byrne and family have re- turned to Detroit after a plass:rant visit with her sister, Mrs. John Flan- nigan. 'Miss Cecelia Feeney is stpending two weeks ',With • relatives in Rochesten N. Y. litre and Mrs. E. B. Tyens made a Mies Marion Dill has entered the eontest being held by the Stratford London after a pleasant. visit with 'her :eaters, Hrs. Bruxer and Hiss Molly Mennen. IVIes ;George Groves, of St. Thomas Wee a Week end visitor with bleeds. • Date Set For Liberal Meeting The postponed annual meeting of the South Huron Liberal Association as constituted for provincial purpos- es, will be h.eld in Bohan Town Hall on Wedeesday, August 1, at 2.30 p.m, 'The election of officers will take place and other businesetransacted. Following the annual m,eestie,g, an ex- ecutive meeting will be held. ' J. G. Stanbury, Exeter, is President, and J. M. Goye.nlock, •Se•aforth, is Secre- tary of the Aseniation. enin .01 DANCE c0i, Despite the ta.eetii`at Lefaion sena 'Band annu#1....,,ri*Opn by the Seaford: IHIghlandeos Band, and ass* tang artists, the erawd, Per a very lenge pardon wof it, 431C.0 Cardnoa Hall with music by Ed. Daly and his !Redcoats, Througheut the evening the booths end wheels of for- tune did a rushing besinesist. The excellent program included the following numbers: Address; of wel- come, C. 'P. Sills, Legion Firesideet; Marehe -Comaades," Band; vocal solo, "Kings of rthe Road," Gordon C. Rennie; dance, iMiss Regan; recite - tion, "Canadian Born, Mass Vera Hudison: 'vocal solo, "Just a Cottage Simian," Fred Willis; selection, aAatlath • Polka," Band, with E. H. Close, soloa ist; vocal 'sole, "Song of Songs," Jas. A. Stewart; selectiops "Mao Thoinias' Sutherland; selection, °Camp Mem- ories," 'Band; dance, Miss Regan, 'Miss Lorentz; -vocal solo, aConse to „es Abe Fair,' James T. ,Soott, end selee- tian "Sseeet Old Songs," Bend. Other .n.umfbers included bagpipe selections by Mr. Reid an,d violin solo by Don- ald Savauge. Iln his address, Mayor Sutherland thanked the firms who had contribut- ed material for the affair and the ladies Who supplied flowers. He also made appoeciative reference to Mr. William Freeman, leader' ,af the band, who had been a rmlember of the local, band for 45 years. man and the inehreeniats ed Mrs. M. R: Rermie, Mrs. Frank Dev- ereaux; and Geeege Daly: • Groups Hold - Enjoyable Picnic Members of the 'Staffa and Sea - forth Junior Institute /an,d Junior Farmers held an enjoyable picnic- at Jowett's Grove, Bayfield, on Tuesday afternoon. More than 200 'members and friends were present. The afternoon was epent in a sports program and follovring a beunteous supper, dancing was en -a, joyed in the 'pavilion. The erize Winners were: 2;5 yard dose, girls, Jean Smtale, M. Forrest; 25 yar dash, boys, H. Coleman, A. Finlays -ns three-legged race, 'Clar- ence No -is arid Jean arriale• necktie race, C. Norris and Mary Allen; coat race, . •Coleman, Mary Allen; soda biecu raze, Marg. Forrest; wheel- Papple; shoe race, Ernie Ross and Rena McLaren. .Staffa carried off the honors in relay race and soft - A scientist reports that the uni- verse •is six thousand million light years in diameter. Some day one McKillop Logging Bees By Melvin Blanchard "Yeo heave, roll it up boys there I guess it will burn when dry." In giving a short sketch of log- ging bees in MeKillop about sixty years ago it is me hope that it will 1 . f interest to the older readers of T: e Expositor and -to the young ones tou, who are readers of that vallea•ble paper. big day among the men an,d women and boys and 'girls of 1VIelaillop 60 years ago. The area for logging, was abeut ten aeres, OT there abouts from which; the timber had Iseen cut a the valuable portions taken to the' mills. The rest was cut down as it was of no value in those days and lay in the fallow for a numbe•r of share until the day ef the logging bee. The ereparations for the event were simiple. Alsout twenty, �r thirty hand essikes were cut, trimInted and pealed and lying- at the cerne,r about five sie teams- Of oxen and, horses with chain's arnd strong hareem. About five tmen, were with each team. The fallow was staked osit in stripe and each gang took a strip. • The rule was that everything bad to be taken out and piled up—at:wipe, loge, entail poplars and Willows. Taie boys, too, Were busy end had to carry drinking wabsr for the mete while the women and girls hut to get. the supper. , !zsgir .1 The bee is o.n. The logs and stuanrpe are beginning to mop and: the longer the gangs work the more interest is aroused. The question, ' which gang is going to be through to the other side first? What with the eltanking of chains, snapping of Whips, creaking of timber and shouting of men the race was very melting. ;Scxme ..one of the gang would win and away die men would' go to their .supper. The ones that were ibehind, herweven wouldn't shirk the work, and would earn up to ,' the house whistling and singing When the job ,,,was clone. After the eapper was over mid cleat:eel away the kitchen. was made reedy foe the dance and the old fiddler Wobld get into the corner and play the old-fasbioned Hoempipe for the boys end ,giels to dance . to. These dash are all over end gone. The men and women am. gone tete= they who dome their bit in humble way and •Melaillop is the better to- day for their in:Entre, As this old Indian sang when he wits being, dela- en out Of the .vooedei Who once .hael a home In the farthest of forests:, Where Wild :cleseeekilib, roam, .515 it 55,