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John Henderson upset again
Says Quebec trip expensive, unbeneficial
GODERICH SIGNAL -STAR, THURSDAY, MAY 10, 19.79—PAGE 9
BY JEFF SEDDON
The Huron County
board -of education ap-
proved 20 field trips for
elementary and secon-
dary school students
Monday but served notice
that in the future it plans
to take a "tougher look"
-at student excursions in
the future.
Wingham trustee Bert
Morin wrapped up a 20
minute debate on the field
trips telling the board
there was little could be
done about field trips
already planned but a lot
that -could be done about
the future.
Morin said a good
percentage of the trips
taken by teachers and
students were ones that
students should be taking
with their parents or with
groups such as scouts or
guides.
The trustee was
referring to the overnight
camping trips planned by
several of the schools. He
said some trips taken by
students through the
school could not be taken
anywhere else but others,
such as • the camping
ventures, could be taken
with families or scouts
and guides.
"I often wonder if we
-Ithe board) are not
usurping the duties of the
family or the scouts and
guides on these camping
trips," he said.
He told the board that if
the students were to
benefit a great deal from
the trips and teachers
were that "keen" to have
the students go he was
sure the teachers and
students would be ac-
cepted by the scouts and
guides.
Morin's comments
came at the tail end of a
discussion started by
Seaforth trustee John
Henderson.
Henderson singled out
a trip to Quebec City
planned by Seaforth
District High School. A
Grade 10 history class of
42 students is off to the
city for four days
beginning May 23. The
purpose of the trip ac-
cording to the application
for board approval is to
allow students to see
areas studied in class and
to allow students to
complete an assignment
designed to deepen their
knowledge of English -
French relations.
Henderson said he had
looked at the field trip
and could find nothing
"beneficial to the
students". He said the
trip was very expensive
and out of the four days
the students would be
gone, about half a day
was worthwhile.
Three teachers are to
accompany the students
on the trip which is
estimated to cost $4,500.
Superintendent of
education Don Kenwell
told the board that in -
eluded in that cost was
rail fare, lodging for two
nights and tickets to two
of the functions the
students will attend.
Henderson told the
board that the $100 paid
by each student was half
the •eost-of the trip. He
said by the tioie students
paid for their food, paid
for entrance to museums
and other attractions and
paid for small incidentals
it would cost another
$100.
The Seaforth -trustee
said he didn't think it was
fair for the board and
teachers to be approving
such grandiose trips
without some parental
input. He said that was a
hefty bill for some
parents to pay.
He added that all the
students get for their
money the first two days
was a ride on a train and
a ticket to "watch the
Expos play". He said the
next day will be spent on
a bus going to Quebec
City.
Kenwell outlined the
itinerary of the students.
The first day will be a rail
trip to Montreal where
they will attend an Expos
baseball game. The next
day the students. will, be
travelling by bus to
Quebec City in the
morning and touring the
Parliament Buildings
and the National
Assembly in the af-
ternoon. The next day
will include a tour of the
city to such sites as the
Plains of Abraham, the
Citadel and an electronic
display showing the six
seiges of the city. The
next day the students will
be taken on a walking
tour of the city and then
will come home.
Zurich trustee Herb
Turkheim suggested that
the trip gave the students
too much free time. He
asked the board what had
been the final judgement
for six students sent
home from a class field
trip of Exeter high school
students that went to
Ottawa.
3/41 -le said he understood
parents were a little
upset in that town after
half a dozen students "got
loose" on a field trip to
the nation's capital and
went in a ligour store to
stock up. He said the
teachers supervising that
trip sent the students
home early.
"All it boils down to is
too much free time for the
students," said
Turkheim.
"You know how you
can find out about a place
on a walking tour "
asked John Henderson.
Goderich trustee
Dorothy Wallace
defended the field trip
telling the board the only
way one can "get to know
Quebec City is on a
walking tour".
Police station inadequate
BY CATH WOODEN
The Public Institutions
Inspection Panel
recommended the ex-
pansion of the Goderich
Police Station and better
protection of records and
files in the Assessment
Office in its report to His
Honour, Judge F.G.
Carter Tuesday, May 8.
The seven member
panel was generally
impressed ,by the "en-
thusiasm" of staffs, and
the overall brightness
and cleanliness of the 23
institutions i4 inspected in
Wingham, Blyth, Clinton,
Seaforth, Exeter, and
Zurich.
The jurors main con-
cerns were with the
Goderich Police Station
and the Assessment
Office: They stated that
the station "was the least
.adequate of the five we
visited," and recom-
mended that "the
cramped quarters be
expanded on a one floor
location or a new building
be constructed."
There are 80,000 files in
the records retention
room of the Assessment
Office that are not
protected from fire. The
panel recommended the
addition of sprinklers in
the room, or fire -proof
file boxes.
Although it was not
included in its recom-
mendations, the panel
stated that the Goderich
airport building "should'•k,,
be replaced as even from
the outside it's an
eyesore." However, the
jurors also noted the
cleanliness of the
building, and the good
shape of the runway.
Judge Carter was
"very pleased" with the
"well-balanced report".
He said that the jurors'
"praise of the institutions
points out the for.their "obvious effort"
criticisms." f and encouraged them to
He thanked the jurors educate others.
010m, mon
MIES
Henderson said one of
the concerns he had about
the Seaforth trip is the
ratio of teachers and
students. He said when
the trip was originally
proposed and parents
asked for- approval there
were four teachers ac-
companying the 42
students. He said that
number has been reduced
by one since parental
approval was given.
"You want to go on a
walking tour some time
with a bunch of students
and see how far you get,"
said the Seaforth trustee.
"I suppose with three
teachers and 42 students
somebody's going to get
loose," said hoard
chairman John Elliott.
"About 39," quipped
Hen.
Elliott dersonsaid he could see
the time coming when
overnight trips or ex-
cursions going great
distances were going to
have to be terminated. He
said there were several
reasons the board would
have to start turning
down the requests and
one was money. He added
that small numbers of
supervisory staff created
problems like the ones
that occurred on the
Exeter trip but he said to
turn down the Seaforth
trip .now would be "un-
fair". He said the board
should begin taking a
hard look at the trips.
He told the board's
administration parents
had obvious concerns
about supervision of the
students and the
superintendents may
have to "scrutinize the
trips a little more". He
said the administration
could offer- a lit -tie- more -
input into the trips in the
planning stages with
suggestions on staff
supervison, itineraries
and other "'constructive
ideas".
The chairman pointed
out that it was 'easy to
take the Ottawa situation
lightly because nothing
serious resulted. He
pointed out that it was
"one thing to send
students home frons a trip
but if one of them, had
been hurt on the return
trip it would have been
another thing
altogether".
Henderson told the
board that the cost of the
Quebec City trip had a
great deal of bearing on
what students could go.
He said that 11 students
weren't going on the trip
_and cost was the main
reason they weren't
going.
Elliott explained that
that is the type of thing he
would like to see ad-
ministration looking at.
He said if the trip is
educationally beneficial
all students should have
an opportnity to go. He
added that he was not
suggesting that the board
pick up the tab for
students that can't afford
the trip but rather ensure
that costs are not
prohibitive enough to
force students to stay
home.
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