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The Goderich Signal-Star, 1979-01-11, Page 16• or PAGE 1.6—THE GODERICH SIGNAL -STAR, THURSDAY, JANUARY 11, 1979, Tie vote delays chinch BY JEFF SEDDON Goderich Area Planning board decided Tuesday night it was not in favor of rezoning a parcel of land -on Highway 21 south of .Goderich to permit construction of a church on land now slated for highway commercial use. Planning board turned down a motion to rezone the property but kept the proposalalive by later passing a motion to send the matter to the town solicitor for a legal opinion. In a recorded vote board members were. evenly split on the rezoning. Harry Wors'ell; Pete McCauley, Bob Alien and Vince Young voted in favor of the rezoning and .Ken McGee, Paul Zurbrigg, Eileen Palmer and Tom Jasper were opposed. According to municipal procedure a tie vote is a lost vote. The move 'by planning board to seek a legal opinion on the rezoning application was made because the proposal made by the church, the Bethel Pentecostal Tabernacle, complies with the town's, official plan in every respect. The only stumbling block for the church is that the property in question, a parcel beside bordering Conklin Lumber, was spot zoned two years ago to permit construction of a motel. The proposal by the church meets all the requirements of the official plan but can't proceed because of that spot zoning. Planning board based its decision on a land use philosophy. Some members argued that while the church conforms with the official plan if the property were zoned to permit such a use the land in question would be better suited for commercial development. Eileen Palmer was very vocal on the land use compatibility and told the board that considering the fact that Goderich is very short of good highway com- mercial property and that the town would lose tax dollars generated by that property if a church, were located there, it was clear a church was not good land use. Palmer said that many businesses need that type of location for survival.arguing that the church could locate in Unity worth effort BY SHIRL,EY J. KELLER Goderich town council's newest Canadian, Councillor Stan Profit, said Monday evening anything the town of Goderich can do to keep the country united, isn't too much effort. Only Councillor Elsa Haydon refused to vote for a motion made by Reeve Eileen Palmer to cir- culate a People to People Petition for Canadian Unity to church, civic and service groups in the municipality. "It is patronizing and a put down," claimed Councillor Haydon. The resolution came to council through the' Association of Municipalities of Ontario. That group endorsed the petition at its rec.ent con- ference in Toronto: "The originators of the petition are assured that inany French Canadians would support, enthusiastically, staying in Canada if they felt that all Canadians wanted them," said Hazel McCallion,. AMO president in her letter. "The purpdse of the petition is simply to indicate that many of us want Canada to remain united and that we recognize the value of having our French compatriates who add- so much to the quality_ of the culture of this country." Part of the text on the petition is as follows: t "We then, the undersigned, reach across to w Quebecois members of our family to ask with full hearts and clear heads that you choose D overwhelmingly to remain with us and --continue p to build together a more magnificent Canada. a To all Canadians, this is a call for rededication i to Canada's future," o "I prefer' to • treat the Quebecois as adults,". • i said Haydon. "The British North America Act r has been followed and its limits constantly expanded. With, this petition, we are making it an us and them situation, but Canada is our country." Haydon said the people of Quebec are mature Canadians. If they believe that by opting out of confederation they are improving their lot, the rest of Canada should not be "bowing and scraping" to convince them otherwise. "It is patronizing and a put down," repeated Haydon. ' Reeve Eileen Palmer said it is just this sort of "political tripe" that widens the division bet- ween Canadians. "Canada would not be Canada without Quebec," stated Profit. "Any effort this council can make to keep Quebec in Canada is certainly worth the effort." Council did not, however, endorse a resolution from the town of Oakville regarding' the control of topless (and bottomless) waitresses as well as the distributidn of por- nography, either via newstands, television, magazines or movies. The communication was received and filed, even though' Reeve Eileen Palmer commented that an editorial in Thi, Toronto Star had called he public nudity of women "exploitation of omen". The resolution which originated 'with St. ominic's Parish in Oakville said, "We wish to ut an end to the exploitation of women and sex s a means to financial gain by any business or ndividual. The citizens of our province and all', f Canada have a right to be protected from all nfluencesthat will undermine the moral ightness and goodness of our -society." _ ---- b Closed planning sessionupsets Haydon rezoning another month a residential area while many businesses cannot. . County planner Roman Dzus told the board that it was "extre, Ply ffictilt" to support rejection' op,,, the church application when the town's planning policy, as indicated in the official plan, indicates that a church can be located onthe property regardless of the need for highway commercial.property. Palmer challenged Dzus pointing out that the' planner told the planning board on many oc- casions that one of. their concerns should be land use. She said the planner has "repeated time and time and time again" that land -use should be considered when the board makes a decision. "That is one of your pet phrases sir and I borrow that from you," said Palme.r. "This is not ideal land use." Dzus said he would stress to planning board that it make every attempt to ensure that projects before it 'be in keeping with good land use policies in the town. He said there are oc- casions when ideal land use may not be achieved because of provisions in the official plan that permit such facilities as a church to be located under a fairly wide variety of zonings. Palmer retorted that the provincial plan was very ambiguous and seemed to be full of "provideds". She said the plan was not "clear" on the matter to her way of thinking. "It• may be clearer to me as a planner than it would be to a lay person," said Dzus. Referring to land use compatibility Palmer, said that she could not think of "anything less compatible than a church on' one side of the read and a tavern on the other". The Can- dlelight Restaurant is across the road from the church property. ' "In my opinion it is compatible," said Dzus. "That's your opinion," said Palmer. "You are here as an advisor, we're here to make recommendations." 1estaurant,... • from page -1 grain handling facilities are available to county farmers but that they are -costly in terms of time and money. He said the Goderich facility may be the difference between county farmers "holding on to or losing markets" in Canada and overseas. The OFA argued that there are other places a restaurant could locate and survive but that the elevator depended on the harbour basin, and simply could not Locate elsewhere. Hill told the board that grain dust is something farmers are very experienced with pointing out that it goes hand in hand with any grain handling. He said the dust is very light and rises but pointed out that it "loves to circle around on the ground for some time before it rises". , . He added that the federation was very much concerned that the restaurant would require the elevator to "slow down its operation or may even cause it to cease". about diesel fumes. He said the developer had professional engineers investigate the problem of both diesel fumes and dust and had been given assurances that air conditioning equipment could be easily installed to filter out all dust and fumes. Borgal, pointed out that truck traffic should not be a problem. He said that trucks at the elevator all travel through residential areas of Goderich en route to the elevator, and that the "residential area has learned to live with it". MIN'ISTIItY OF ENVIRONMENT The ministry`of environment commented on the restaurant proposal and while it did not come out and say it was opposed to the project it did nothing to -support it. According to county planner Roman Dzus the ministry appears to have "dissenting views" on the project. The ministry listed 10 concerns it had. Among them was noise, odour and dust created by the elevator that are within the ministry specifications now but may be too concentrated to permit a dining facility to operate. It was concerned with problems created by accident or cargo spills that could happen at the harbour TRUCK TRAFFIC and was cautious about the ability of the To add fuel to their arguments opponents of restaurant to filter out noise and fumes from the restaurant have repeatedly referred to the, trucks. The ministry felt that outdoor dining truck, traffic around the elevator. Objectors proposed by the restaurant may be impossible claim trucks parked near the elevator and . because of the elevator and that the restaurant idling their engines create diesel fumes that was only 66 feet from the elevator when would infiltrate the atmosphere of the ministry requirements suggested it be at least restaurant. 500 feet away. Chris Borgal, architect for the restaurant, " The ministry also pointed out that it was very told the board that Gibbons is not concerned difficult to determine ..if the two businesses • BY JEFF SEDDON When the Goderich Planning Board decided to get together over lunch, in private, to discuss the proposed. harbour front restaurant in Goderich councillor Elsa Haydon was miffed. Haydon objected to the closed session of planning board, objected to being asked to leave the meeting and ended up. getting in a shouting match with planning board member Tom ----Jasper- was over. Haydon . could see no reason for the meeting, could see no reason for having it closed and was unable to find out who arranged to have the session in the first,place. She said she ' learned about the meeting when she saw it posted on a community calendar in the council chambers at the to'wn hall. She inquired` several times to try to find out who called the meeting but her'ef- forts were futile. Planning board members offered no answers, to clear_up the matter. Tom Jasper, who chaired planning board during its last term, was appointed chairman for the special session and as such inherited the task of acting as " a spokesman. for the •boar -d. After the meeting was over and all the members vanished Jasper was left to field questions from reporters and . from councillor Haydon. Jasper said the - meeting was called after several members of FOR ALL YOUR. ELECTRICAL SUPPLIES planning board expressed an interest in having an informal session• to discuss the controversial harbour front restaurant. He would not specify which members ex- pressed that interest and would not say' if he was one of those members in favour of the "session. All he would say was that members felt there were some questions to be answered. • Haydon requested. that the' board- allow her to remain in the room during the closed session.. to enable her to hear what was discussed about the issue. She felt that she would be required to vote on , the " restaurant proposal at the council table a.nd"that she should_ he able to hear what was said at planning board. The' board turned down her request and asked that she leave. Jasper, would not even allow Haydon to comment on any planning board matters' asking that she ieave...quietly. 'Haydon further objected to the actions of the board when Jasper entertained a number of questions from reporters, seconds after he had asked her to stop asking questions. The councillor ad- monished the Huron County planning board and particularly county planner Roman Dzus, who was permitted to stay in 'the closed session. Haydon said she was disappointed that Dzus stayed in the meeting claiming that a year ago the county planning Shuffles... • from page 7 month, the personnel and management committee will meet on the. third Monday of the month and the executive committee on the fourth Monday. The first Monday of each month is the regular hoard meeting. department would not be associated with closed meetings. Jasper took exception to that comment pointing out to Haydon that -Dzus was at the session as a paid employee and that -hi-s attendance had nothing to" do with the philosophy of the county planners on closed meetings.. Jasper said Dzus was' "hired to be here, is paid to _be here and he is here." • Dzus told the councillor that the closed session was- nothing to ,be upset about. He said there was nothing "surreptitious" about the meeting and that no new information had been brought before the board. H:e skid it was just an opportuhity for hoard memers to have some matters cleared up. He added that when he learned of ^the closed session he assumed that he was asked to be there to answer questions about Manning, - Jasper justified the meeting by pointing out that the harbour front • restaurant was surrounded by legalities. He "said both the developers of the restaurant and the - ob- jectors had made it clear they intend to take tie matter to the. Ontario Municipal Board and that them was "enough legal onus" on planning board to have 'the closed `session. Jasper said the restaurant was not the most "controversial" decision he has had to make in his six years on planning board but he did say that he felt the hoard's decision' would have to be "very carefully thought out." He added that if the matter did go to the OMB - the e'decision MB-'the'decision of the Goderich planning board would "definitely be taken into consideration" at th'at level when the OMB hands down its ruling, ••••••••••••••••••••••••••••a •• •• • • • • could survive as neighbors until the restaurant was built and operating and if it was deter- mined after that they could not it may be too late to do anything about it. Borgal told the board that he was not im- pressed with , the comments of the ministry pointing out that most of the concerns the provincial organization hadwere already known. He said the developers of the restaurant were aware of the conditions created by the elevator and had hinged their proposal around those conditions. He argued that Gibbons had made every attempt to identify all possible conflicts the restaurant would have with the elevator and hadtaken steps to eliminate those conflicts. He' added that at no time had the developer asked the elevator to do anything to change their methods of operation and that fact had shown a willingness to install equipment and design the building to accommodate the industry. Borgal said he felt all possible information planning board needed was before if and asked that a decision "one way or the other" be made. He said the matter had been in abeyance since October and that the developer felt enough time had been spent investigating the proposal. He added that the board should keep in mind that many comments had ..been -,made., about the economic survival of the restaurant when conditions created by the elevator are con- sidered. He pointed out that the economics were none of anyone's business but „ the developers. 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