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Smith challenges Riddell for HuronLMiddiesex vote
Bouyed by endorsements from the
Toronto Star and the Globe and Mail and
recent surveys which suggest the Con-
servatives have lost as much as 14 per cent
of the popular vote, Huron -Middlesex
Liberal candidate Jack Riddell is
realistically looking for a minority govern-
ment.
Which party forms that minority govern-
ment is an issue that the electorate of On-
tario will decide, at the. polls Thursday, but
Riddell did not discount the fact the
Liberals could be on the governing side of
the Legislature.
In a predominantly agricultural riding
spring seeding takes precedence over
politics and candidates Riddell, Con-
servative Bryan Smith, Paul Klopp of the
New Democrats and Rhinoceros candidate
Carman Dawson have had to get out in the
riding to meet the electorate.
They debated at all -candidates meetings
in Lucan and most recently in Clinton at a
gathering sponsored by Women Today.
The riding of Huron -Middlesex encom-
passes 11 townships in an area stretching
from Goderich in the north, south to Ker -
wood and east to Seaforth. It is a riding
where loyalties run deep and where only
two candidates have represented the peo-
ple of the area during the Conservative 42
- year reign. -
Huron -Middlesex was served by a Con=
servative member until the election of 1973
when Jack Riddell won the seat in a
byelection. He has maintained a comfor-
table majority in every election since and
only in the 1981 did the Conservatives offer
Riddell any reason for despair. Former
Goderich deputy -reeve Jim Britnell. cut
Riddells majority to 2,000 votes in that
election and Conservative riding officials
believe they have a formidable candidate
in Smith.
In a fiery pre-election speech before par-
ty
supporters in Goderich Monday, Riddell
quoted extensively from a Toronto Star
editorial which blatantly supported the
Liberals behind leader David Peterson.
While admitting that the party was not
without flaws the editorial, ostensibly, sug-
gested that the Liberals, under Peterson,
were progressive and would provide a
fresh,team with new ideas. "It's time for a
change." concluded the editorial.
Miller's 'refusal to debate and hisstand
on several issues reflects 42 years of ar-
raogance Riddell told the group adding
that Peterson was the only alternative to
move Ontario.
Ontario Liberal leader David Peterson is surrounded by media per-
sonnel during and election campaign stop at Clinton Public
Hospital. Mr. Peterson, travelling with Huron -Bruce MPP Murray
"There are more than half a million peo-
ple out of work in this province and 175,000
young people between the ages of 15 and 24
despair for their future," he said. "They
are not pursuing their education becuase
there are no jobs when they graduate.
"Miller closed the best psychiatric
hospital and he tried to close Clinton
Hospital as well. In the 1970s the province
paid 60 per cent of the education costs and
today they pay only 43. The burden has
been shifted to the local taxpayer. It's time
for a change. After. 42 years of rule the
Elstone and Huron -Middlesex MPP Jack Riddell, met ad-
ministrator Dan Steyn and hospital chairman Leen Reehorst.
(James Friel photo)
• Conservatives have lost inertia, they -have
lost initiative."
Change was on the minds of Canadian
voters in the last federal election when
Brian Mulroney led the Conservatives to
an unprecedented majority government.
Change and 'leadership may swing the
provincial election and Riddell believes it
will work in the Liberals' favor.
"Our policies are designed for people
and are not monuments of self esteem," he
said. ' ;Peterson is a vibrant, middle-of-the-
road Liberal who believes in free enter-
prise and as little government involve-
ment in the lives of'peopre as possible."
Confidently proclaiming that a
"change" is imminent Riddell suggested. -
the election would' produce a minority
government and that a subsequent election
would produce a Liberal majority govern-
ment.
Riddell, a former farmer, auctioneer
and graduate of Guelph University, has
held the riding for almost 12 years. His stif-
fest opposition will likely come from
Smith, a salesman with Interbake Foods
lection '85'
whose only previous political experience
was a term on the Lucan village council
and several years service with the
village's planningboard.
Smith's campaign has been doing well in
the southern portion of the riding near his
home -town of Lucan, and party organizers
admit that the towns of Goderich, Clinton
and Seaforth will be a key in the election. If
Smith can hold his own in the northern sec-
tor of the riding, then anything can hap-
pen.
While the appearance of Frank Miller at
a dinner meeting in Lucan did much to
enhance the Smith campaign, the memory
of the former health minister may haunt
him in the north. In 1977, Miller tried un-
succesfully to close Clinton Hospital
among others.
"I find that the majority of people are
receptive to Miller and I even had someone
say they were glad he was elected leader,"
Smith said. "The riding has changed a lot
since then. There are some bad feelings,
sure, but people have confidence in
Miller,"
Smith has been working in the riding
since the announcement of the election and
is optimistic about his chances in scoring
what would have to be considered an upset
in Huron Middlesex. "People .have con
fidence in Miller and they've.-been.:recep
tive tome," he said.
The cornerstone -of .his , party's policy,
Enterprise Ontario, is a program that
could have an impact on the employment
picture of the riding Smith contends ad -1
ding that young people are seriously con-
cerned for their future.
The southern portion of the riding has
produced all four candidates in the elec-
tion and the New Democrats are pinning
hopes on a young Zurich area farmer, Paul
K1K1 pp, a regional director with the On-
tario Federation of Agriculture, has ex-
pressed concern over the plight of farmers
in the riding'and is opposed to the usage of
valuable farmland in the area for a propos-
ed Ontario Hydro transmission line. Klopp
takes over the NDP reigns from Bayfield
resident Gwen Pemberton who also ran a
low-key campaign in the 1981 election
when she polled 1,170 votes.
Farm related issues will be the key in
the riding,of Huron -Middlesex and all can-
didates have expressed a desire to fight for
the preservation of farm land and make
provisions for . financially-trc,buled
farmers;. .
Elston should get another close fight in Huron- Bruce
• After four weeks of shaking hands, tour-
ing businesses, mainstreeting, attending
'candidates' meetings and meeting anyone
and everyone, Murray Elston, Mike
Snotielen and Norma Peterson are ready to
hear from the voters.
Tomorrow (Thursday) is Ontario election
day, and • in the Huron -Bruce riding, in-
terested onlookers are waiting to see if the
1985 race is as close as the final result in 1981
when Mr. Elston, the Wingham lawyer
replacing the retired Liberal Murray Gaunt,
squeezed by Progressive Conservative can-
didate Gary Harron by 224 votes. Only the
ridings of Hamilton Mountain t NDP 197 ),
Wentworth (PC 160), Windsor Sandwich
(Iiberal 134 ), Hamilton Centre ( NDP 63 )
and Parry Sound (PC 6)
Saturday's Gallup poll showed the Con-
servatives holding 43 per cent of the vote, 10
ahead of the Liberals, with the New
Democratic Party trailing at 24 per cent. •
The three candidates told The News in
separate interviews held from Friday to
Monday that the Huron -Bruce campaign
has been run in "clean fashion", free of ver-
bal attacks on each other. Mr. Snobelen
said Sunday he has "enjoyed having a
gentleman and a lady. as my opponents".
Mr. Elston told The News Friday he was
"very pleased with the style of campaign
run by Mike and Norma". Mrs. Peterson
said Monday she prefers to stay away from
"political mudslinging".
"I don't think it benefits a person who
does it," said Mrs. Petersen. "Some people
don't like it when politicians attack too
much."
Mr. Elston is hoping to return to Queen's
Park after picking up 12,164 votes in 1981.
Provincially. he said Liberal leader David
Peterson's performance has been the story
-of.the rarnpaifin in his ridinn Mr Piston_
said he feels he has picked up support with
his campaign and will be working this week
to get the workers out.
Running in a second. campaign and es
HERUC
ON -BRE_ PROGRESSI\ E_ Con-
servative candidate MikeSSSnobelen spent
most of .April 10 campaigning with Ontario
Premier Frank Miller. Mr. Snobelen
defeated CKNX broadcaster Rill Thompson
for the PC nomination nn April
upset.` Tie _feeds it . i` tipbrmit__t�' get -
representation at Queen's Park from so-
meone with a background in agriculture.
(Steve McAllister Photo )
2 in a
'Id
periencing four years in the role of MPP has
allowed Mr. Elston to keep more touch with
the issues and the policies of his party. Hav-
ing more recognition has made things
easier, he admits, and he said he was more
relaxed in the '81 election as some "nervous
energy" has accompanied keeping up on
constituency duties and campaigning.
Some observers felt Mr.. Peterson's stop in
Kincardine last Wednesday may have been
made out of fear regarding Mr. Elston's re-
election. Mr. Elston said the leader was on-
ly affirming his interest in the riding.
"David's swing through the area was to tell
supporters. he doesn't take them for granted
and to (tell again) his position on the Bruce
Energy Centre. • We have a commitment to
the people in this area."
Mr. Elston is confident that hard work by
himself and area Liberal supporters will
result in a victory tomorrow.
"The numbers are available for us if we
keep working hard and get the people out to
vote)," he said:
Learning to understand riding
Mr. Snobelen created a stir within the
PC's in the riding when he decided a week
before the party's nomination meeting to
run against CKNX broadcaster Bill Thomp-
son for • the Tory ticket. The farmer -
businessman received 26 more votes than
Mr. Thompson and while some feel the Con-
servative association was split over the
decision, Mr. Snobelen said Sunday his cam-
paign is "on a definite rise".
"A lot of them healed overnight (after the
<nomination meeting )," said Mr. Snobelen
after hosting a beef barbecue which at-
tracted approximately 800 supporters.
"You're going to hurt when you've work
hard on behalf of a person and I'm well-
pleased.with_tbe, wad this group has come
together.
Mr. Snobelen sal(' campaigning has'allow-
ed him to "really understand the riding"
and has affirmed his thoughts on issues such
as agriculture, one being the need for
farmers to "unite their thinking".
While the media have been critical of Con-
servative leader Frank Miller's campaign
in recent (weeks, Mr. Snobelen said "I don't
think it's a big issue in this riding". He said
,the 10 per cent gap between the Con-
servatives and the Liberals (according to
the poll) translates.into "two to three extra"
seats for the Tories in Southwestern On-
tario, saying that it's a positive note for him
heading into Thursday.
NDP will make gains
Mrs. Peterson, who replaced Tony Mac -
Quail as the NDP candidate in Huron -Bruce,
said Monday her campaigning as the NDP
candidate in last fall's federal election has
given her some exposure.
"It's a plus that I have gained some type
of reputation in the northern part of the
riding," said Mrs. Peterson. "Part of the
battle is recognition and now I hope they'll
listen to my ideas."
The Kincardine town councillor thought
the threat of a strike at the Bruce Nuclear
Power Development by Hydro union
employees may have become a large issue
during the campaign. She said that union
meetings may have prevented the workers
from being more involved in the election.
While Mr. Miller, Mr. Peterson and .
Minister of Education Keith Norton provid-
ed Mr. Elston and Mr. Snobelen with a little
more exposure with visits here during the
campaign, Mrs. Peterson has been trying to
attract votes without visits from her party's
leading politicians. That hasn't bothered
her.
"I would hope the members of the elec-
torate would see through Mr. Miller and Mr.
Norton's visits," she said.
est -out -the possibility
of "slipping through the middle" in tomor-
row's vote, Mrs. Peterson said the final
results are "so unpredictable".
Cand.idatesarguon basicwanienTh issues in Clinton
BY SUSAN HUNDERTMARK
All three provincial election candidates
in the Huron -Middlesex riding agreed with
the basic principles of daycare, affir-
mative action and equal pay for work of
equal value at an all -candidates meeting in
Clinton on Thursday. But, the particular
ways to achieve these principles often re-
mained a mystery for the over 60 voters in
attendance.
"Women's issues receive a fair share in
the Progressive Conservatives. We're tak-
ing great strides to achieving full equality
between women and men and these
achievements are not unheeded by women
of Ontario," said Progressive Con-
servative candidate Bryan Smith who
cited Bette Stephenson as an example that
women have 'full access _to, any position
they work and strive for the Conservative
government.
New Democratic Party candidate Paul
Klopp said the NDP has been fighting for
women for years and has a proven record
on women's issues.
He said the Conservatives let the private
members' bill on equal pay for work of
equal value die in 1981 while the Liberals
paid lip service to the Economic Equality
Act in 1983 but ensured the defeat of the act
when 13 Liberals left the Legislature
before the vote.
Women's issues mean different things to
different people, said Liberal candidate,
Jack Riddell.
b
r -
•I, 'e' re proud of our record. We'cnnsuler
«omen's ISSUE'S a hip% priority. Rut we're
not proud of the 42 -year-old record of the
Conservatives or something would have
been, done years ago." he said.
HEALTH CARE
When asked if his party would ensure all
major partners in health care incluclirrg
consumers had an equal voict' in. health
care policy. Riddell said his party has
recognized the cost sayings of providing
health services at home.
"We support the Town and Country
Homemakers to the fullest degree Far too
many beds are taken up by chronic care
patients in hospitals." he said.
He blasted the ('onsertlittive government
for the 2.8 per cent increase given to On-
•tari s hospitals- in- 498 -- ':s• a *fie--the-
way they're underfunded. inflation is run-
ning higher than that... he said.
Klopp saidthe NDP supports more com-
munity involvement in health care concen-
trating on preventative and pre -natal
hearth care.
"There's a great need for midwives to be
funded through OHIP to allow people who
can to have babies at home."' he said.
Smith said he supported health care.
"Minister of Health Alan Pope is from a
small town and he's concerned with small
hospitals," he said.
CHILD CARE
The candidates were asked what they
would do to prevent the closure of
Tuckersrnith Day Nurserand to ensure
all parents had equal a' gess to quality
childcare.
Daycare that is affordal,le. flexible and
accessible particularly to rural parents is
supported by the NDP, said Klopp.
"We're pushing for realistic capital for
start-up assistance and shifting the burden
for funding to the province so you'll know
the money is going to he there for fun-
ding," he said.
The Conservatives -gill commit $4
million to opening 15 rural ' hildcare cen-
tres and 100,000 new spots. said Smith.
"In Tuckersmith. you can be assured
you won't lose any sub'idized daycare
spaces. This is very important for the
mother who wants to go out and get a job,"
he_ said. .
Riddell said the Conser:,+tives continue
to treat childcare as a welfare issue by
allocating less than four per cent of their
budget to childcare. He pledged a $10
million . fund in start up grants and
guaranteed spaces for all children in need
ofSubsidized daycare. •
."Our goal is universal childcare," he
said.
EQUALITY FOR WOMEN IN FARMING
Because married women are expected to
prove their eligibility ,for farm assistance
programs under existing legislation, the
candidates were asked if their parties
would legislate equality for all women.
"1 firmly believe a wife should he able to
apply for and receive these programs. We
don't have a definite policy on it; it's
something that has to be thoroughly
reviewed," said Riddell.
The Conservative government looks at a
farm as a family unit irstead of looking at
who farms the land and aren't prepared to
deviate from that policy, he said.
"I have no doubt the programs have
loopholes and you can be assured I'll be
lookinginto it," said Smith.
Klopp said if a government would allow
farmers to have an income, equality would
work out in the long run.
AFFIRMATIVE ACTION
The NDP will support mandatory affir-
mative action in all sectors, initiate com-
• plaints against companies and provide
protection against employer reprisals,
'gad -IC -kw
Under the Conservative government; the
gap between men and women's wages has
decreased from 63 to 77 per cent, said
Smith. He added that women have to be en-
couraged to enter non-traditional fields
which the Conservatives will do with train-
ing programs.
It's not something you can change
overnight," he said.
Riddell said job retraining in non-
traditional fields for women was the
answer along with television programs
serving as role models for young girls
choosing careers.
He also said more women should run for
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office. "I would dearly love to see more
women come into the legislature. We need
\more like Sheila Copps, the girl who in-
troduced the bill for equal pay for work of
equal value," he said.
FUNDING FOR WOMEN'S GROUPS
Smith said the Conservatives did not
fund organizations because it would put a
massive burden on the province.
By reducing residential property taxes,
municipalities would have more money, to
fund local groups such as women's groups,
said Klopps.
"It's not uncommon for the Ontario
Federation of Agriculture to receive fun-
ding so I don't see why organizations like
Women Today couldn't be funded," he
said.
If women's groups were doing the work
supposed to • be done by the Ministry of
Women's Affairs, they should be paid for
it; 'said Riddell.
"Thank God for organizations like
Women Today or we wouldn't be debating
women's issues in the legislature today,"
he said.
PORNOGRAPHY
All the candidates agreed that there
should be a crackdown on pornograpffy,
particularly violent and child por-
nography. -
Riddellsaid-Project P, a task force on
pornography in Toronto should be given
jurisdiction over all of Ontario while Klopp
said videos should be licenced to ensure no
child pornography is shown.