The Goderich Signal-Star, 1981-03-18, Page 5Letters to the editor
The Bibie says it; he beieves it; that settles it
Dear Editor : ,-
This is in reply to the let-
ters by Mr. Dave B. Cloet,
Mr. Minaker, M4 Martie
Foster, and Iva J. Wood,
dealing, with the current
debtdte on the Evolution
issue.
All of these people would
be very interested to know
that the origin of life was the
subject of the debate before
a paid audience of approx-
imately 1,500 held on the
evening of Wednesday, .Oc-
tober, 22, 1981 in the C. Y.
Stevens. Auditorium of Iowa
State University.
The debate was arranged
by Students for Origins
Research, an I.S.U. crea-
tionists organization headed
by, Jbhn Meyer.. Participants
were Dr. Duane Gish and Dr.
Russell Doolittle, who holds
a Ph.D in biochemistry from
Harvard University and 'is
Professor of Biochemistry at
the University of California
at San Diego. The moderator
was Richard Hudson, the
Forensics Debate Coach at
I:S.U. Each debater was
given an initial presentation
of 60 minutes and a 15 minute
and 54minute rebuttal, the in-
itial order being determined
by the flip of a coin.
Dr. Gish, the first speaker,
maintained that a
naturalistic, evolutionary
origin of life is impossible.
Thus, the only alternative =
the special creation of life by
an intelligent creator - is the
only answer.
,Using thermodynamic
principles and the laws of
probability, Dr. Gish
presented evidence which he
contended showed that not
even a single complex
molecule, such as DNA,
RNA or protein could have
arisen spontaneously on the
hypothetical primitive -
earth. Chemical, ther-
r>:lpdynamic and kinetic data
showed that no significant
quantity of even relatively
simple organic molecules,
Give the theory
of creation equal time
Dear Editor:
In reply to Mr. Cloets'
letter, I realize that he has to
comply. with the curriculum
prescribed by . the Depart-
ment of Education. I am sure
by now he can sympathize
with those who are on the
receivingendof prosecution,:
and he also 'has the inborn
desire, as everyone has, to
defend himself: , In other
words, he is a human being,
even though he does have a
tendency to support the
. theory of evolution, as he
himself says. '
My criticism was directed'
specifically toward , the
Department of . Education,
whom • I believe are
responsible for the in:
troduction of . the evolution
theory at the pre -university
level. I believe the
evolutionists have been
proving the bible for the past
one hundred years, or more.
As stated in the bible, if one
has faith, mountains can be
moved, as found in Matt.
Chapter 17 Verse 20. The
good Lord knows, I say with
reverence, how many
mountains of dirt have been
moved over the years by
people looking for evidence
of the missing link, whichihe
bible says isn't there.
Since man was created in
the image of God, the
missing link they were
looking -for must have been
on the. .other --end --of...the.
shi4rel. i believe that I have
established the faith that the
evolutionists have, so
therefore it can be classifed
&s--a,religir.,My-qmstions
now is, why have they been
hiding under the skirts of
science and using the sup-
port by money from tax-
payers who do not believe in
their religion? •
It would seem only fair in
my mind that they would
establish a church of their
own, and let the ones .who
believe' in this religion
support . it. Either,, that, or
give the theory of creation
equal time in the schools.
The bible was not written
after Christ as stated by Mr.
Cloet. The old Testament
was written prior to His
birth, and - the . new was
written after.
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such as amino acids, could
havearisen spontaneously
under hypothetical primor-
dial ' earth conditions. He
closed by pointing out that no
life of any kind had been
detected on Mars or the
,moon. This was contradic-
tory to evolutionary expecta-
tions.
Dr. Doolittle began his
presentation by asking those
in the audience who were
convinced that life had
arisen by evolution to stand
up. No more than 10 percent
responded.. Doolittle then
presented an evolutionary
view , of the origin, of the
universe, beginning'" with
"mysterious forces" which
control the universe and con-
tinuing through, the
hypothetical `•`Big Bang"
start of the universe, the
origin of stars, and finally
culminating in the origin of
life.
Doolittle argued that there
was no difficulty producing
considerable quantities of
amino acids ` and other-.
substances. He showed a
hypothetical cycle involving
"activated" nucleotides, a
polypeptide catalys, a coded
polynucleotide template,
and "activated" amino
acids. He said that later gene
duplication led to greater
diversity. Doolittle also at-
tempted to counter Gish's
probability of all 2,000 of us
being here in this auditorium
tonight the odds would seem
to be impossible, and yet
here'we were!
In his rebuttal, Dr. Gish
pointed out that the 2,000
people would never have
been there if their presence
had depended on chance (as
does evolution) , but were
there precisely because they
did not get there by chance!.
Each had made his way to
the auditorium deliberately!
Gish pointed out that
chemists can obtain signifi-
cant quantities of amino
acids and similar products
- only by the use of a trap to
isolate the products, since
the rates. of destruction of
the products by the energy
sources that produced them
exceed the rates of forma-
tion; by a millionfold _ and
more.
Even ..if a trap were
available on the hypothetical
primordial earth, this would
also be fatal since no energy
would thus be available to
promote the next step up the
ladder. Dr. Gish asserted
also that the , roduction of
"activated" aMino acids and
nucleotides would have been
excluded under primordial
earth conditions (ATP and
other phosphorylated
substances of
for the
synthesis' of activated com-
pounds are very unstable to..
water), and that Doolittle's
scheme simply assumed the
existence of a protein en-
zyme and a polynucleotide
template -rather than ex-
plaining their origin in the
first place. 0
A spirited,,though cordial,
exchange between' the
debaters continued during a
question -and -answer period
which lasted for an addi-
tional 45 minutes. The
Students for Origins
Research is- hopeful_ that - this
debate will help to create a
new perspective' concerning
the creation -evolution ques-
tion. On the I.S.U. campus,
professors have dismissed
students (later reinstated
after administrative action)
for their. creationist posi
Election act is obsolete
Dear Editor,
With another provincial
election on the 19th and an
obsolete election act as far
as.:ba.11ots-are-.concerned, -we--
are faced with the fad that
many candidates will be
elected .with less than 50
percent of the electoral
support, -
In. a recent federal elec-
tion, using the same type of
ballot, we found that there
was a candidate elected with
12,322 votes while 22,254
opposed his election (the
latter amount being split
betwee n five candidates).
Some other examples are:
19,756 ballots °(elected) -
29,967 ballots (opposed -
between four candidates);
13,610 ballots (elected) -
26;373 ballots (opposed -
between six candidates);
and 11,619 ballots (elected) -
23,904 ballots (opposed -
between two candidates ). .
These examples certainly
indicate (Democracy
defeated by The Ballot).
It will be noted that when
Australia evolved a multi-
party system hire Canada's,
it adopted a preferential
. (signal -transferrable ballot)
to ensure . that the winner
would be ' the preferred
choice -of -electorate. -
It willbe noted as . well,
that in the opening of
Federal Parliament, . the
speech from the Throne
-indinatacf --the receQ ity--i.
electoral ieform.
- We know that countries
like Nicaragua, Venezuela,
El Salvador, 'and many
othets,.,which are the trouble
spots in the world today are
places where the govern-
ments are supported by less
than the majority of the
electorate. In view of the
strife, turmoil and blood
shed, I can see that in
another 30 .years, if . this
situation is not taken care of
our country will be in a
similar condition.
This type of balloting is not
new in Canada. It was in-
stituted on a provincial basis
in both British Columbia and
Alberta and for a number of
years they had good
government This was.
disposed of in both provinces
lin the 50s by. Social Credit
governments. The reason at
thetime was weakness 'in
party strength and so they
reverted --back to -the.. system
of a simple pluralityballot..
When one looks at those
countries in turmoil and
-looks ahead to the
!bil;tiea.. of. _ this. chap,— peal ..
in.Canada, one would
have to assume that political
Strategists that oppose
reform in this area are little
short of being treasonous.
Due to the experiences of
those two provinces; I see the
necessity of having the
electoral system handled in
such .a way in . the con-
stitution that . no federal,
provincial, ;nunieipal er
school board representatives
could ever sit in any of the
elected offices without • a
clear majority of electoral
support.
It is hoped thatthe readers
of this article will demand
from the caihjidates in their
constituencies their support
in electoral reform.
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tion and professors have
viciously attacked 'Biblical
Christianity.
On Tuesday evening
preceding the debate, Dr.
Gish debated science writer
Robert Schaddewald for two
and one half hours on WHO
Radio, Des Moines. Jim
Frey is the moderator for
this popular radio talk show,
"Clear Channel" which
reaches several states. The
program generated intense
interest with 110 calls!
I sincerely hope that you
GODERICH SIGNAL -STAR, WEDNESDAY, MARCH 18, 1981—PAGE 5
will publish this letter in
your newspaper, so your
readers can draw their own
conclusions about The
Evolution versus Creation
debate. As for myself, I
believe the opening words of
the Bible, "In the beginning
God created the heaven and
the earth." THE BIBLE
SAYS IT, I BELIEVE IT,
AND THAT SETTLES IT!
Sincerely Yours,
Daniel D'Haene
. One Way To Jesus,
Lambeth, Ontario
bituaries
MRS. MARGARET
CENETTIE JEWELL
Mrs. Margaret Cenettie
Jewell of 33 Bruce Street,
East; Goderich, died in
Alexandra Marine ...and
General Hospital on Mon-
day, March 16 at the age of
101.
She was born in Colborne
Township on February 11,
1880 to Alexander and Janet
(Strachan) Glen.
On June 10, 1903 she
married William Henry
,Jewell in Colborne Town-
ship. They lived in Colborne
until December 1, 1945 when
they moved to Goderich.
The late Mrs. Jewell was a
member of Victoria Street
United Church:
She was' predeceased by
her husband m 1961; by an
infant son, Glen Alexander;
and by a son, Ralph Jewell.
She is survived by three
daughte?s, Mrs. Melvin
(Grace) Cranston ',of
Goderich, Mrs. Franklin
(Cenetta) Bainton of Blyth,
arid Mrs. Frank (Effie) Yeo
of Goderich Township; one
sister, Mary. Mae Glen of
Goderich;t'one brother, John •
Glen of Regina; six gran-,
dchildren; 17 great-
grandchildren; and three
great -great-grandchildren.
A funeral service was held
at Stiles Funeral Home in
Goderich on Wednesday,
March 18 at .2 p.m. The
Reverend John. D.M. Wood
officiated.
Interement was in
Colborne Cemetery.
Pallbearers were Ron
Sowerby, Rick Sowerby, Bill
Jewell, &id Yeo, John A.
Glen, Jr., and Bob Jewell.
MRS. ETHEL
(COPE) VEARY
Mrs. Ethel (Cope) Veary
of Maple Grove Lodge,
Goderich, died at her
residence on Sunday,. March
15 at the age of 78.
Sir . was horn in England
on January 22, 1903 to
Charles and Millicent
(Newton) Cope.
She moved to Montreal at
theage of 21 and to Goderich
in September of 1980.
She was a member of
North Street United Church,
Goderich.
She is survived by two
daughters, Mrs. Fred
(Edna) Looker of Goderich..
and Mrs. T.omin y
(Margaret) Robertson of
Arundel, Quebec; one sister,
Mrs. Leslie (Annie) Gobbett
of Whitby, Ontario; one
brother, Eddie Cope of
Manchester, England; six
grandchildren; :and five
great-grandchildren.
A funeral service was held
at Stiles Funeral Home in,
Goderich on Tuesday March
17 `at 3 ,p.m. The Reverend
Robert O. 'Ball officiated.
Cremation - was • in
Woodland Crematorium in
London with interment in
Maitland Cemetery,
Goderich.
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