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Times-Advocate, 1987-10-28, Page 35J Anti free traders beef in debate at lucan More than 200 people gave up their-- Sunday heir-Sunday evening at home to attend a free trade debate held in the Lucan Community- Memorial -Centre. organizers who had anticipated an audience of only about -.80 were pleasantly surprised so many were drawn to hear the speakers debate the issues surrounding the free trade agreement promotedpy The Conser- vativ1e government. The debate, sponsored by the Lucan area churches, was called as Rev. Bruce Pocock explained, to present the issues to the community and not because they particularly involved the churches. Speakers in support of the free trade agreement were Terry Clifford, MP for London -Middlesex, and Tom llockin, minister of state for finance. Against the agreement werjlev_ Mike O'Ityan, St. Peter's Se )nary, John Langlois, chairman of the' Catholic rural life comtnittee, and Hob Martin, a professor of constitu• - tional law from the University of Western Ontario. Terry Clifford said he feels the agreement .does meet theesix condi- tions of David Peterson as presented in this past provincial election. Clif- ford also sees the present auto pact as a good example of how a free trade agreement benefits Canadians. Since the pact's inception, jobs in Canadian auto industry have increased from 80,000 to 130,000. Clifford. welcomed the agreement as a boon to the agricultural sector, which will need to keep U.S. markets open for their produce. Rev. O'Ryan likened the present negotiations over freer trade with the United States to his experiences in Brazil as a missionary during Brazil's period of growth initiative.. 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"Do we want to promote a model of winners and losers on the world scene?" asked O'Ryan about how this deal will be perceived by developing third -world countries who have no such chance to promote themselves in the North American market. John Langlois described the deal as smacking of colonia lism and queried Canada's future under the deal. "Are we going to be the storehouse of American resources?" Langlois asked. Langlois also saw agricultural sec- -tors as becoming shut out 'of the market. He noted that while provision for preventing unfair competition and selling at distress prices exists in the trade deal, he questioned their abili- ty to act in time to save farmers. "By the time you can prove you have a case of distress prices, it's too late." Langlois argued that the present government has no right to enter in -- to the trade agreement. without the consent of the Canadian people: "This government was never elected on the_ mandate of free trade, Langlois said, and proposed a vote to let the electorate. deckle. • Rob Martin commented on the large audience as an indicator of public distrust of the trade agreement. "If we were to believe the things the Mulroney government has been tell- ing us, few of us would be here tonight," Martin observed. Martin cited fundamental _dif- ferences between Canadians and Americans as the main reason -why a trade deal should cot go through. He interpreted the American ideal of life, liberty and happiness as "the mean- ing of life is making a buck". He con- trasted this with the Canadian ideal of peace, order and good government which he said is not as exciting as making a buck, but has made us a better country. Martin picked up on' Clifford's references to the auto pact and to car dealers and summed up the deal as he saw it: "Free trade is used -car salesman economics." He described the American economy as in a declining state and speculated that if free trade .for Canada was necessary at all, it should be with a more stable partner, such as Japan. Martin called for a vote to get rid of the present government along with its fres trade policies. He accused the government of not only tieing in- competent, corrupt, and dishonest, but also as being somewhat treasonous to enter into a trade agreement without making it an elec- tion issue. • Tom Hockin, visibly upset by the charges made against his govern- ment, accused the other speakers of baing their arguments on emotional grounds without presenting the facts. Using the community centre's arena as an analogy, Hockin describ- ed the trade deal as putting Cana- dians onto a "neutral hockey rink with neutral referees." He depicted , the present trade' situation with the United States as unfavorable and un- fair. "We have to deal with theAmeri- cans on their ice with their rule book, and their referees." Hockin went on to describe the op- ponents of free trade as having a "Fortress Canada approach" that is unrealistic in terms of Canada's pre- sent trade needs. He did not think Canadian companies would be able to compete and sell their products in Korea or Taiwan yttithout first being able to sell in Port Huron or Toledo. During the question period, both Clifford and Hockin defended the trade deal while responding to con- cerns voiced from the floor. "This wasn't just concocted in the back room of Ottawa," said Clifford while claiming the deal has been very carefully written to protect Canadian interests, even to the point of stating import quotas down to the one - thousands of a percentage point. After the meeting, Hockin express- ed his displeasure at the evenings proceedings. . "This is the most unreasonable pPinel I've ever been on," said Hockin, and described it as having been "us- ed to prevent -people from seeing the facts." The evening's audience appeared angry and concerned about the effects of thefree- trade deal on their livelihoods, but Hockin estimated it would take the six weeks until Christmas -time for all the informa- tion to be presented to the public, then the Canadian people would come to see the merit of the deal. Given the tense atmosphere of the Leprechaun room on Sunday, dome may predict a longer period -of time before Canadians are •ready to em- brace a deal negotiated by an increas- ingly unpopular Conservative government. caNtevt N 1' E R[ 11414/ aaaaa a • •• •••"••• •. rw lit • TIME CAPSULE CONTENTS -- Marian Bissett and Rev. Walter Vip- perman examine the contents of a time capsule that was buried beneath Trivitt Memorial corner stone a century ago. 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ROBERT LAING Cromorty Mr. Robert Macfarlane, represen- tative of the Lefprosy Mission in On- tario, -was guest speaker at the Oc- tober meeting of the Marian Ritchie W.M.S. in Cromarty Presbyterian Church. Mr. Macfarlane spoke of the Leprosy Mission in Canada, Asia, and Africa, stating that the first need of . those 'with leprosy -was emotional. They have to know that they are not - outcasts; that someone cares for them, and that they can be healed and become useful persons in society. Leprosy is only mildly contagious and can be cured by antibiotics in six months to two years if found in the earliest stages. The,loss.of fingers and toes is usually the result of a secon- dary infection because the nerve has been destroyed and the person feels no pain when he injures himself by burns, cuts, etc. Following the showing of a film of the work in Indonesia, Mr. Mac- farlane was thanked by Roberta Templeman. .Ruth Laing presided for the wor- ship service with Betty Lou Norris as pianist for the Thanksgiving hymns. The call to worship from, Ps..92:1-5 MAKE A DIFFERENCE_ ...with the New SUPER TOMAHAWK Chipper/shredder! • Chips branches up to 3" In diameter! • Shreds leaves, crop residues, vines, twigs, any organic matter with amazing speed! • State•of•the•art design and performance! 17m GARDEN WAYVAR? • Carries up to 10 times she load of a coinmon wheelbarrow. • Now with Swing Dump Front. 'J RON-BI, Now available Irom: NORON Exeter 235-1115 Blyth 523-4244 1 Cromarty Mission was followed by a prayer of Thanksgiving by Alice Gardiner. Jean Carey was in charge of the devotions and was assisted by Lillian .Douglas and Edna Stoneman. The roll call, a Thanksgiving verse, was answered by 15 members and there werefive guests present. Dorothy Taylor, Hensall, brought reetings from the Stratford -Huron resbyterial of the Women's Mis- sionary Society. Doris Miller ga e a topic on giving thanks. During the business. presided ver by Betty Lou Norris. it was decided that the remainder of the allocation be sent to the Presbyterial treasurer and $25 to Ewart College. ; For the program number. Muriel Scott read excerpts from Margaret Taylor's book about her father. the Rev. R.G..MacKay, who - was a former minister at Cromarty. , ......, ittr`arc e\ CO BARN DANCE Friday, Oct. 30th: SINGLES DANCE Music by JOE OVERHOLT AND • THE STANDBYS Dancing, 9 p.m. to 1 a.m. Saturday, Oct. 31st: Music by WESLEY LEUSZLER Dancing 9 p.m. to 1 a.m. Sunday, Nov. 1st: 2 p.m. — ? ? 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The War Amputations of Canada is a registered charitable organization operated by amputees for amputees on a non-profit basis The War Amps does not receive govern- ment funds Should you wish further information. please do not hesitate to contact us. Toronto 14161 4634600: area codes 519, 813.705. dial tolrfree 1800.2684621. alt Other area codes dial toll.free 1800.2864917. Charitable Registration Number. 0286831 09 10 Where would you want to live when you can no anger live in your own home? The Seniors Care Facility Committee would like to know what the seniors of Huron Coun- ty believe their future should hold. In March 1985 the Ministry announced plans to spend • $70 million to improve and upgrade the hous- in situation for the aged in Ontario. This pro- gram was very well received. Huronview began to assess its situation. An architectural team was hired to provide a functional pro- gram which included a needs study. Upon careful review of this report, the Ministry of Community and Social Services gave direc- tion for the establishment of a Seniors Care Facility Committee with the following mandate: 1. To identify within Huron County the specific rare needs of the Seniois' communi- ty through meetings, forutns and- sub- missions. • 2.'To prepare a report detailing the above fin- ' dings with recommendations for the necessary .facility / facilities including size. location) s) and range of desired care. In order to fulfil this mandate we need to i.ear from the seniors in Huron County. We would like to know what you believe is needed for the Seniors of today and tomorrow. Over the next few weeks. your Seniors' group will be receiving an invitation along with a question- naire. We would like you to select three or four members of your group to represent your organization's point of view with our commit- tee. These four members will be our guests at Huronview for a meeting and luncheon. At this time they will be given fifteen Minutes to present their viewpoint on the i4eues of • Seniors' facility needs, including Alzheimers' , units, submit their questionnaire returns to the ('oinmittee and then participate in an in- formal discussion with the Committee and other Seniors' groups from the county: • These meetings will be taking place at Huron - view on November 25 and 26. Each group will be sent an agenda. questionnaires and invita- tions. They are welcome to attend the entire discussion or if they choitse, only that seg - ment which directly involves their Seniors' group. A date will be announced shortly when residents' councils of the various Nursing Homes will be presenting their questionnaires at a similar meeting and luncheon. The County Care Agencies t Huron Day Cen- tre. Wingham Day Centre, Integrated Homemaking, for example ) are also being sent questionnaires and invitations to a forum and luncheon held at Huronview on November 24. The input and information we hope to obtain from these services is invaluable. Please watch your local newspaber for more ,Please regarding these very important {events. - 1f you are a senior and do not belong to any organization but wish to complete a question- naire. one can be sent to you if you contact any of -the following Committee members. bossy Fuller ('o -Chairman • Seniors Care Facility Committee .. Ed Oddleifson, P. Eng. Co -Chairman Seniors Care Facility Committee Patricia Archibald Executive Secretary. Seniors Care Facility Committee Linda Girard Ministry of Community & Social Services Leona Armstrong Reeve Norman Hayes .Corporate Executive, Officer Wingham & District Hospital James Coulter Bill Hanly Clerk Treasurer. Adrni Court House Frtank Bissell Loretta Seigner l strator lan McAllister Board of Directors Bluewater Rest Horne Doreen Wilson. H.C.A. Bev Brown Corinne Van Miltenburg.' . H.N. Wayne Lester Administrator. Huronvrew Brian McBurney Warden. 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