Times-Advocate, 1985-05-01, Page 13Candidates debate women's issues
By Shelley NItI'hee
Day care, employment equality.
women and education. agriculture
and affirmative act ton were among
the issues of debate at an all -
candidates meeting held w Clinton on
April 25.
Huron -Middlesex candidates.
Liberal incumbent Jack Riddell. Pt'
candidate liryan.Stnrth and NI)P can-
didate Paul Klopp. tackled the I.SueS
at a.meeting sponsored by Women To-
day and the Huron Il oaten 'Teachers
Association.
Attended by over 75 men and
women, the meeting was the first of
its kind ever to be held in the area
The candidates showed their political
awareness in some areas concerning
women's issues and at other limes
learned new facts and figures pertain-
ing to the vital issues facing women.
A panel. including Pat Brown of
Women Today : 'Vary Ellen Walsh ot
the Federation of Teachers: Nancy
McLeod of WonIen 'Today: Debbie
Selkirk of the Huron Chapter 01
Registered Nurses Association and
Mary Van Rommel ot 11'cnnen in
Agriculture presented a series of.
prepared quest imus to the candidates.
----II and 1 era 1 ► Care Delivery •
Debbie Selkirk of (:oderich asked
the candidates "to re -allocate health
care dollars to make honw and com-
munity based programs an integral
part of the health care system.•'
She asked for government support
for a health care policy, with nitwit
from professional care. givers and
consumers. She questioned. "Will you
press for government's establishment
of a consultative process which
receives input from all parts of t)n-
tario Society''"
- Riddell noted. The simple answer
is yes." stressing that expanded horse
care servicers :•, i11 alleviate hospital
burdens
Ile said his government Is prepared
CELEBRATE CHARTER
on •aped 1..-7. (4'. tai5 women
teachers gathered at the Horse and
Hound and the Black Angus for a
"Celebration Dinner." sponsored by
the Federation of Women Teachers'
Association of Ontario
This "Celebration'- was held in
►
honour of the Equality It►I,hl.srovi
provi-
sions Ic'ontauned In Section 15 en the
Canadian Charter of Rights and
Freedoms, which come into force on
April 17. Wooten in Canada have
evorked long and hard to "set the stan-
dard high" and have used their "in
fluence zinc] power" to ensure that
these equality rights doappear in the
Charter.
In a written speech sent to every
member of the E•'.11'.T.A.O.. the pro-
vincial president wrote: "So we
celebrate not only the coming into el -
of the equality rights provisions"
of the charter today.. but also we
celebrate the collective power of
women in Canadian society. We
celebrate the battles that have been
won: to achieve the vole: .c 1.0
declare persons under the law in
Canada. and to have equal]% rights
included in the Charter 01 Rights.
"And finally we c•elebrale with all
those women in Canadian history who
have brought us to this.ignificanl step
towards equal rights for women.
.'Enjoy this oelebraIion and
remehiher it - to .hare with your
daughters and granddaughters in the
years 10 come .
.Adrienne Thews
Ailsa Graig
to give more funding to home care
programs and hospitals. He said it
was a "crime" that hospitals are fac-
ed with tight budgeting, noting,
"Surely hospitals shouldn't be ex-
pected to take less than inflation."
Klopp said that OHIP should Lund
midwives and midwifery programs
should be developed to save money in
hospitals' and provide a service for
women who are able to have babies
at home. Ile emphasized a need for
expanded preventative health
treasures and prenatal programs and
services dealing with needs in in-
dividual areas.
Smith said he was concerned with
small hospitals and noted that he sup-
ported input froth all aspects 01 health
care.
•
Child care programs
The candidates supported (he con-
cerns tor affordable. quality, accessi-
ble child care in Huron County.
Women 'l'otlay have determined a
"desperate need" for additional ser-
vices in the county. Concern also sur-
rounds proposed subsidy funding to
municipal day care set•v.ices. such as
the 'l'uc•kersmith Day Nursery.
• •
they would do to prevent the possible
closing of the Tuckersmilh Nursery,
and what they would do to ensure that
other Huron -Middlesex
municipalities are given quality day
care facilities.
Smith said that the. Conservative
goverment is committed to a :10 per
cent increase in day care funding. Ile
noted, "'I'uckersmith, you can be
assured you won't lose subsidized
care space."
Many parents face "two antagoniz-
ing alternatives, "Riddell said - either
to stay at home at look after their
children, or use unaffordable day-
care
aycare centres.
ile said the Liberals would ensure
a mixture 01 private and public child
care programs and would+ provide
trading to establish new programs.
creating 10.000 new child care spaces.
Equality in Agriculture
Mary Van Hommel of Dashwood.
pointed out that provincial farm
assistance programs lack equality of -
eligibility for women. Two such pro-
grams are the provincially ad-
ministered Income Stabilization Pro-
grams and the Beginning Farmer
:Assistance Program l tiFAP►.
She noted that while single women.
mothers, commonlaw wivesor sisters
may he eligible under farm partner-
ships for assistance, "married
women are expected to go to great
length to prove their elegibilily or
simply do not qualify under existing
legislation. Since no precedence has
been set to the contrary. this practice.
of discrimination against married
farm women may'well continue into
the future."
Smith said the problem is "not on-
ly a woman's issue." 1le said the
situation is tiring reviewed and "if
possible the requirements will be
refined. You can be assured we'll be
!9oking into that."
Riddell said That the Conservative
government "has not been prepared
to deviate" from the program
requirements.
"i helieve a wife should be able to
apply and receive these programs. 11
has to be thoroughly reveiwed. One
can see some abuse taking place."
Ile said that full consultation is
needed w ith women. farm groups.
"all knowledgeable people will need
to iron this out.'
Klopp said that BFAI' "makes a
mockery of anyone in farming with a
good education-"
He said that needs of farmers are
not being met, "Stabilization pro-
grams need to have teeth to give
farmers a decent income, then in the
long run you'll get equality."
Affirmative Action
In December 1984. Mary Ellen
Walsh reported, the ministry of
education announced a program un
support of affirmative action tui
female employees. This was aimed at
raising the level of occupational op-
portunities for women. She -asked the.
cadidates if they planned to en-
courage affirmative action in the
private and public sectors.
Klopp said he supported mandatory-
affirmative
andatoryaffirmative action groups. equal pay
laws and initiating complaints
against employers ‘with protection
provided against employer reprisals.
Ile called for public justitic•ation for
plant closures and reduction in man-
datory overtime hours to provide
more employment for more people.
Smith said that the "real obstacle
is concentration of women in low pay-
ing jobs." He stressed the need to en-
courage women to enter jobs with-
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training opportunities tor women.
The PC candidate noted that in
1961,'25 percent of university students
were women. By 1981 tha1,'figure had
risen to one-half.
"These women are rising to the top
of their fields and wages will in-
crease. The process won't happen
overnight," he noted.
Riddell called for more women in
the provincial legislature "to make
their voices heard." He said the
-Liberal government is commmitted
to retraining programs for women in
non-traditional careers.
Funding women's organizations
Candidates were asked if their par-
ties were committed to funding
women's organizations "that are do-
ing substantiae work to raise the
status of Ontario women through pro-
jects. programs and activities aimed
at social and economic equality."
Klopp said the government is shif-
ting the responsbility back on the
municipalities. "They try to cut back
so taxes won't jump and therefore
many programs are dropped."
Smith defended his government by
noting that "numerous groups add
value and input in many ways," but
suggested it was a "massive burden
on society" to provide funding for all
these groups. He said that the Conser-
vative government finances projects,
not organizations, using Women To-
day project grants as an example.
Riddell retaliated, "If Women To-
day is doing the job the ministry of
women's issues is supposed to be do-
ing, then they deserve to be paid for
it."
He gained audience support when
he suggested that no ministry of
women's issues has "seriously ad-
dressed" women's concerns.
Ile suggested turning more money
from patronage appointments to
groups like Women Today.
Post secondary education
A question from the audience ask-
ed for the candidates' position on post
secondary education for women. in-
creasing tuition fees and grant
reductions.
Riddell noted, "The Bovey Report
is a pile of junk." Ile said that the pro-
posals to raise tuition fees were "in-
comprehensible" and noted that
• "education is the most important part
in any person's life."
He said that former Ontario
premier William Davis, "ex -
perunenled with the lives of our
young people" through the education'
system. Ile stressed the need to
return to core curriculum studies. in-
cluding Canadian history, geography
and English.
There was no argument on this
issue from the PC candidate. Smith
simply noted. "1 agree. thanks Jack.
The Bovey ('omntission should drop
that piece of paper and go back to
square one...
Klopp added. "The government
should put more money into education
or the whole system is a joke."
Abortion
Smith supported that decision to ap-
peal the aquittal on the Morgantaler
Abortion ('tit 'c case. Smith said he
does not supri t the wide use of abut --
tion, "it snakes a mockery ,of the
tederal taw." 7
Klopp disagreed. Ile said women
should have the right to choose and
the decision should be made between
a woman and her doctor. Mr. Klopp
said he didn't approve of abortion as
a birth control method and stressed
the. need for family planning educa-
tion and counselling for pregnant
women to encourage them to carry to
erm.
Riddell replied. "Paul I think
you're skating on an ice cube."
"I'm pro-life." he said, noting it
was an "unforgiveable sin for a
mother to abort"
He noted that two of his nephews
are adopted and proposed to the au-
dience. "talk to an adopted child
about abortion and they'll tell you
what they think."
He said that the federal.govern-
ment should enforce their abortion
laws and called therapeutic abortion
committees "nothing more than a
rubber stamp.•'
Party policies
"The NDP party has led the fight
for women's issues." Mr. Klopp
noted. The young Zurich area farmer
said that he is running on the NUN.
card in the election because he is
"frustrated with promises 'rather
than commitments" from the
government. -
Riddell listed'several areas of
Liberal support for women's issues.
Ile said that the five minute allotment
for the prepared speech portion of the
evening was not enough lime for him
s
to talk about women's issues. The
Liberal candidate raced through his
introductory speech. pointing out the
need for employment equity, family
law changes and pension
improvements.
The Progressive (..OIlSeC\'all\'eS
have taken great strides to full and
equal participation of wotnen in On-
tario," Smith stated.
"Women have full access to any
Level they prepare and strive for." he
said. "Women will gel a fairshake in
the PC government."
Smith also learned an important referred to women as "girls". it was
lesson at the meeting. Several times pointed out to the candidate that this
during the evening, the PC candidate term was not appreciated.
CLINTON VISIT,— Ontario Liberal leader David Peterson • reeze
into Clinton for a half-hour visit to the Clinton Public Hospital, The
community hospital was threatened with closure by former health
minister Frank Miller nine years ago. The Liberal leader said that
his government would be willing to meet the financial needs of small
community hospitals and health core budgeting would be reviewed
and increased. He said that the Clinton Hospital today "Shows how
wrong Mr. Miller was.,.Miller doesn't understand rural Ontario". Here
Mr. Peterson meets Clinton Hospital administrator Dan Steyn. Also
pictured is Huron -Middlesex Liberal. incumbent Jack Riddell.
(Shelley McPhee photo)
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