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Wingham Times, 1891-07-10, Page 801* FRIDAY PROI SPERM IN TUE MO DR. MACDONALD, 11 f. IWBON, (CONCLUDED FROM LAST WEAK,). dnto bankruptcy the better. But we have testimony on every hand that prohibition has prohibited in some of the States in which it has been enacted and without detaining the House, by going over many testimonies, 1 will read one or two of the testimonies given. Governor Dingley, formerly Speaker of the House of Representa. tives and Attorney General of the United . States, in reply to enquiries made by Canada's Commissioners, Col. Davies and Rev",, J', W. Manning, wbo, were sent to Maine to investigate this question, said "Cur cities and large villages where the influence of immigration is most felt are far behind the rural portions of the State in the enforcement of the law. Yet in nearly all our cities,with perhaps two or three exceptions, the law is enforced to a great extent with" evident beneficial results. The great improvement in the drinking habits of the people of this State within 30 or 40 years is so evident that no candid man who has observed or investigated the facts can deny it." The Hon. Woodbury Davis, Judge of the Supreme Court of the United States, said : "A prohibitory law tends to make both buying and selling disreputable. "It holds up the standard of right and puts the brand. of Infamy upon the wrong. "Reds a blind observer of the forces that govern in human life who does not see the moral power of penal law even when extensively violated in teaching virtue and restraining vice. "No observing man who has lived in the State for the last twenty years and has had an opportunity to know the facts, can doubt that the Maine Law has produced a hundred time more visible improvement in the eharaeter, condition and prosperity of our people than any other law that was ever enacted." This is the opinion of one of the ablest judges in the United States and it disposes of the argument by those who say that no law can be passed by the, people of Canada to assist the people to be moral and virtuous. He says that the law upholds the standard of right, and places infamy upon wrong and in this way it throws the entire traffic into the hands of those who are infamous. I do not believe that any reepecEable,inan in the country—and there are.niany of them who may, drink moderately—would be seen go- ing into the back lanes aiid byways to receive a glass of liquor from the hands of those whose business was made in- famous by law. It was also contended in this House, that prohibition would interfere with our individual rights. I think the hon, member from Musit koka (Mr. O'Brien) spoke in .reference to this; he said that no majority had the right to deprive him of anything he deemed to be a natural right. To. day he withdrew to a certain extent this°contention and said : Oh, yes, where a considerable majority of the people are in favor of prohibition,then it isright and just to pass. a taw to protect the people, That is the right principle. The hon. gentleman ex- pi"essed what is right to -day, but yea -4 terday he expressed what was wrong in principle. The individual right has no existence only in so far as it is re'• lated to the well-being of" society. What may be considered an individual right to day may be justly and prop, erl'y' withdrawn tomorrow if society so decide. The Sandwich Islander may say it is his right to boa cannibal, but if he removes into another society *here the laws were different for the p<rotectEotion of the lives of the people, int right which he said he possessed a Sandwich Islander would' have lost to him entirely. 11.o man any right in this country only in Y so far as the exercise of the right ac, cords with the welfare of society, and if the exercise of a tto.oaliei? right is opposed to the interest of the oomnluu- itty, such so-called right las no exist - moo. That is the fundamental prin- ciple of national find social custom upon which the laws of our country are based. Tho greatest possible good to the greatest passible number, the greatest possible proterttion to the greatest possible number, the greatest possible freedom compatible with the health, morals and lives of the graft - est possible number; that is the fun- damental principle that should under- lie all the laws of all oivilized coons tries. That is the principle involved in the License Act, which says that a tavern keeper shall not sell liquors from Saturday evening until Monday morning. That prohibition in the Act interferes with what many would call 'their individual liberties to drink on Saturday and Sunday, and before the prohibited hour on"Monday morning. The law says a tavern•keeper cannot sell to minors, nor to Indians,. and 1 suppose 'that some minors and Indians believe that their individual rights are imposed upon by this law. Suppose an individual: in this city of Ottawa wished to erect a wooden building on a certain lot and contended that he had a right to do so and ` to spend his nioneyin this way.; it would depend entirely where be intended to ereqt that building, the authorities could say If you build within the fire limits you have nc right, but if ,ydu build without the fire limits you have the right, because the greatest possible protection must be extended. tc your neighbors, and you cannot erect a class of building ,which .is likely' to take fire. If. a man wishes to erect a slaughter house in a certain locality the health officers can say : You cans. not put it there because it would en- danger the health of the neighborhood in thevvicinity of your slaughter house, Thus, 1 might go on giving illustration alter illustration to show that it is a principle recognized by every civilized Government in the world that so called individual rights should be restricted 'for the promotion of the public welfare. I wish now to say a few words in ref- erence to the loss of revenue which might arise if a prohibitory liquof law were passed. Let me point out that this revenue.is not lost, and that the prohibition of liquor will only involve a different system of collection. It may be said that the $7,000,000 of revenue from . intoxicating liquor is paid by the distillers, the ventlors•and the importers, but after they have dis- tributed that liquor through various parts of the country the people who use the liquor spay for it and it comes out of their pockets: in the end. ] n reality it would only change the col-, ]eating of the duty from the iiuporta, tion and manufacture of liquors, to some other article which would . be much more in the interests of the people, and avoid the disastrous re - suite. of the traffic. But, Sir, what is the opinion of one of the great men of England in reference to the decrease of revenne'from intoxicating, liuqors. The late Lord Iddlesleigh, (Sir Stafford Northcote) in delivering his budget speech some years ago in the,Imperial House of Ootnmons, referring to the loss of revenue from the decrease of dnty on spirits, said : "If the reduction of revenue de, rived front spirits to a material and considerable. change in the habits of the people and to increasing habits of temperance -and abstinence from the use of ardent spirits, I venture to say that the amount of wealth such a change would bring to the nation would utterly throw in the shade the amount of revenue that is now derived from the spirit Butyl and we should not Only see With satisfaction a diminution of revenue from such a cause, but we should find in various ways that the exchequer would not suffer." ' There was the *missed opieion of a elan who had Upon ills shoulders the respoilsibilitj, of raising all the . moneys necessary to meet the liabili. ties of England. I think the principle enunciated here • is applicable to us and that we can apply it to this coup. try, If this degrading.traffie in liquor is removed and the country become Iriore sober, the people become more industrious, 'the. application of their skill and energy be "more assiduously iipplied to productive sources of national wealth, we shall have corning into this, country much wore on the one hand than we could possibly lose on the other, Sir Wilfred Lawsoni an eminent commoner in England, con, gratulated the Chancellor of the .Ex'; chequer upon 'his able speech and the soundness of his conclusions. He said, and .his observations are worthy of attention : "The Government had that night exhibited commendable moral courage and shown that they would not con- sider private interests, but only regard the great interests of the nation. He was glad also to find the right hon. gentleman exploding the nonsensical notion that the revenue would suffer if the people would drink .less. The mode in which we raised one-third of our revenue was something contempt- ible. A great swarm of collectors was, as it were, sent forth in the shape of publicans and beer sellers, commission- ed to gather in from the, people the money required for the national ex-. chequer." That, Sir, was the -great inan's opinion in regard to this question, and I think I can reiterate itwith reference to Canada. If a prohibitory liquor law were passed to morrow, we should suffer only a temporary inconvenience while the general result would be a great increase in our prosperity.. But let me set down Canada's liquorloss and The traffic tutoxicating liquors as common, beverages is inimical to the true interest of individuals and de., struetive to the order and well-ben/mot society. The history and results Of, all past legislation in regard to the,! liquor traffic abundantly prove that it. is impossible satisfactorily to limit or regulate a system so essentially mis- ohievous in its tendencies, The legis- latiive prohibition of the liquor traffic is perfectly compatible with rational liberty and, with all the cleans of justice and legitimate commerce. No consid- eration of private gain or public rev snuck can justify the continuance of a sys- tem so utterly wrong in principle,. suicidal in policy and disastrous in results. .M1 good citizens, without regard to class, sectarian or party considerations, should unite to procure an enactment prohibiting' the importa- tion, manufacture and sale of,intoxica ting liquors for beverage purposes. I thank you, Mr. Speaker,andthe House for the attentive ' hearing you have given me. ,i • It Costs You Nothing. It is with pleasure we. announce that we have made arrangements with that popular illustrated magazine, the Ameri• can Farmer, published at Cleveland, Ohio, and read byfarmers in all parts of Canada,' by which that publication will be mailed direct, free, to the address of any of THE Trims subscribers who will pay up all ars rearagesron subscriptions and one year in advance from date, and, to ani+ new sub- scribers who will ,.pay ode 'year ($1) in advance. This is a grand opportunity to' obtain a first-class farm joutnal free. The American farmer is a large 16 page illustrated' journal of national circulation, ,which ranks among the leading agricultural papers,: Its highest purpose is the elevaw Pion and enobling of agriculture through the higher and broader education of men one side and women engaged in its pursuits. The gain account, let me' put onJ regular subscription price of the American what the country is losing through this farmer is $1 per year. It costs you nothb- traffic and on the other side the loss ing. From any one .number ideas can be + , obtained that ogili be worth thrice the of revenue that would follow its pro. subscription price to you or members of hibition, and see, how the account your household yet you get it free. stands. According to the estimate - Huron Items. made by the Hon. Geo, E. Foster, Mr Thos Tait, General SUP erinten- Finance, Minister, Canada's annual dent'of the C P R, Toronto, has sold. liquor bill amounts to $33,000,000 ; his half section of unimproved land then there is the waste of 86,000,000 south of Virden, Man, to A O rneron, lbs. ofgrain last year, amountingto late of tars brant, for $3,800. yBurglars broke into the freigh shed $1;000,000 ; lose of time of '40,000 at the G 'li R station, Guelph,a few drunkards,25 days each at $1, per day, nights ago, and,stole a quantity of dry $1,000,000 ; waste of time by' 15,000 goods consigned to lir Neal,, of 4Val. vendors of liquor at $300 a year, $4,. ton , "also a box of biscuits for Mr500,000 ; shortening the life of each,Smit Theh, of follWalton. owing assdeiationa' of Pat - drunkard of the 8,000 who die annual- tons •of Industry were organized last ly, say five years !Mich, which equals week in Huron by F J Bennest, Ouun. 40,000 years of human life at $300 a tY organizers Pride of IYIeKillop year, $12,000,000; loss of time by , A‘Vssociation—MJohnston Kinney, Pres ; criminals, say $500x000,; and extra hiaeamaracGavin,, MinerSvec-a; Treas Annie 1 icGavin, Wm Scott,, Sentinel. Hope `of Gre; • Kate Mo-, for administration of justice in the Demeter ; Ed McNamara, Guide ; various departments, $500,000, which y makes the total on the debit side of Association—Robert Livingston, Pres; the account $52,500,000. Credit by George Spieran, Vice; J'no s; EIiih, Sec ; George McKay, Trees ; Eliza the revenue obtained from the traffic Sipieran, Mins rva; Elson McKay; $71000,000, leaving a net loss to the Dei eter ; Alex McKay, Guide ; Iiobt people of this country of 45,500,000 Perry, Sentinel. - a year. And remember that this is The following gentlemen have been. without telling into consideration one appointed a board of examiners for the inspection of leather and raw vicious habit or one departure from hides for the counties of Perth and virtue or from religious or moral Huron; — Mesdrs .Thomas Stoney, principle. But, Sir, we have tried in Alexander Smith, ,Henry Ubelaclter, a great many ways to avoid these evils, George Larkworthy, sr, and John C Anthony, all of Stratford. We have tried licenses for many years; Messrs Tom,Kilty, Johnson, brown, Du we have tried •the 'tikin Act; we Holman and Torrance, inembore of have tried the Scott Act ; we are try.. Executive Committee of West Huron ing the Local Option -Act at the present Teachers' Association, met in Clinton Aima; but they have failed toaeoom- lately, with Messrs Robb, Plummer, Musgrove, Scott, Lough, Shearer and plish the end we.have in view; and, as slack, and Misses Cowan and hillier, Lord Brougham says: members of the Executive Committee "To lessen it's force and contract its.. of 'Cast Huron Teachers' Assoeiation, sphere no ;;means must be spared, if we to -:',arrange for a Union meeting of the rally mean to stay the progress of Associations. Clinton was selected detitution and crime. The law -giver as the place of aiaetinn and Sept 10th is imperatively bound to lend his aid and llth as the time. Messrs Tom; when it appears manifest that no Robb, Park, tough, Strong, Clarkson, palliatives can avail:' Baird, Black. Musgrove, Shearer and We have. tried, Sir, almost every pal. Ilolnan,and Miss Burritt, are to pre- pare stil'lects for the meeting, and an native, and they have all failed, and entertainment is to be'given on the now we come to the , fountain head of evening of the lath, power and the law -giver to lend hisT11er Hurons, elf Seaforth, and Soots, aid to stop the operation of this traffic, .of Toronto, Ohampions of Callitda, Now, in concluding, let me state the football ed the first ion alio lef Oanas for the conclusions at which ,1 have arrived oil p ,s p of Canada, on ,Saturday, at Rosedale, Sra. this subject, aiid 1 challenge any inem. forth won by 8 goals to 1. ber who may be opposed to prohibition —ana manypeople aro Honestly oppo • CDNStlMttrserr CUItEf. s• An old phynlalan, retired ttram praatica, haying "ed to `into controvert the position I had ptaca to his hands ye at Last India missionary the iornurla of t 1 t bl lay Can . 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