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McKillop Township Council was swayed
last week, by a presentation made to them
at a public meeting by Herman Lansink of
RR 2 Denfield. Mr. Lansink was present to
oppose a petition by John Hart for the rezon-
ing of property located on Highway 8, west
of Seaforth in the Township of McKillop.
"Council made its decision based on what
it heard and Mr. Lansink's presentation cer-
tainly had an effect," said Reerve Marie
IHicknell, after council's decision to restrict
many of the uses requested for the property.
She indicated disappointment however,
that Seaforth had chosen to have itself
represented at the meeting by someone who
didn't even live in Seaforth. Mr. Lansink
had told council he represented 'some' area
businessmen, but declined to name them.
At a later meeting with John Hart, Mr.
Lansink said he represented four local
businessmen, and in response to qucstionn-
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into a ghost town," said Mr. Seddon.
'He said studies can be done, and would be
done by 'businesses before they opted to
locate at the site. He said the primary ques-
tion council should be considering is "can
Seaforth use highway commercial land west
of town."
Mr. Seddon said the development could
not be considered a regional mall, and that
it isn't another Masonville Place which is
being proposed.
In parting Mr. Lansink said:
"I strongly recommend restricted use, or
that council detain this until such time as
studies can be done. OMB hearings are cost-
ly, and this will go to OMB. To pass this now
would be premature on council's part."
REEVE - PRESENTATIION HAD EFFECT
"Council made its decision based on what
it heard," said McKillop Reeve Marie
Hicknell, and added Mr. Lansink's presen-
tation, and his saying an OMB hearing
would be forced, affected council's decision.
"Council took him at his word," she said.
Mrs. Hicknell is still optimistic about the
proposed development, and says it will
create jobs for people in Seaforth and
McKillop.
"Any of the things we took out can be put
back in with studies," she said. "We didn't
say 'no way can a grocery store be in
there'."
Mrs. Hicknell says McKillop Council was
also trying to accommodate Mr. Hart in
passing the rezoning by-law with many of
the controversial uses removed, to avoid an
OMB hearing. If an OMB hearing were forc-
ed, it could be time consuming -up to a year
before a date was even scheduled-- and
expensive,
With the zoning passed with the currently
listed uses Mr. Hart could build his dealer-
ship, begin recruiting other businesses, and
apply for re -zoning to include any of the
restricted businesses.
"I'd really like to see it go and I know
council would too. We thought we were ac-
commodating John, and we wouldn't want
to lose his or any other business," she said.
While she admits his was a strong presen-
tation, Mrs. Hicknell also had certain reser-
vations about Mr. Lansink representing
Seaforth merchants.
"It's a sad commentary when someone
who doesn't live here can say what happens
here. Could people on Main Street not send
someone who lives here to represent
sink, and are quite concerned they have
been implicated in this matter. Both admit
they have concerns about the proposed
development, but are not entirely against it.
Both indicated if they wished to pursue the
matter, they wouldn't have had someone
else represent them at the meeting.
At a later interview with The Expositor,
Mr. Lansink said he had been representing
no interests other than his own at that public
meeting.
"I came in at the last minute as a property
owner in Seaforth. I was representing no
one," said Mr. Lansink,
"I was concerned about Main Street
Seaforth and the effect the whole develop-
ment would have on it. I own a house in
Seaforth, I grew up in Seaforth and I plan to
retire there someday. I was shocked it (the
development ) had gone that far," he said.
Mr. Lansink said he believes a develop-
ment the size of the one proposed will hurt
the Town of Seaforth, and eventually turn it
into a ghost town.
represented
"I was not in there because it was going to
affect my business. I read about it in the
paper, and that's how I became aware that
the town gave it their blessing. And, if the
(Seaforth) council is too proud, or too blind,
to see that a development of this size is go-
ing to hurt the town, then (I felt) someone
had to speak out," he said.
"I know a few businessmen would be hap-
py to get on my coattail, and I'd be only too
happy to let them - that's fine. But, I
represented myself at the meeting. I wanted
to defend my concerns for my little building
in Seaforth.
As for Mr. Hart, he is still reeling from the
effects of Mr. Lansink's presentation, and is
concerned there are conflicting views as to
his purpose at the meeting.
"I've done everything in my power to be
above board and not trick anybody. I've
been straight forward, and I feel a lot of
things that have been done, have not been up
front. Last Tuesday's decision by McKillop
Council blew me away," he said.
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Mr. Hart and his associates face a deci-
sion of either going through another uncer-
tain rezoning process or walking away from
the proposed commercial development. He
says he wants to stay in Seaforth, but will
have to look at how feasible the location is
under the current zoning.
"As businessmen we've got to make a
business decision."
Mr. Hart says he and Mr. Seddon have
been working with McKillop Township and
the Town of Seaforth to ensure the develop-
ment and the town complement one another.
"If the town was a ghost town we wouldn't
do any business," he says.
"The ruling (McKillop's rezoning) makes
it possible to move the dealership. McKillop
council had our best interests at heart,"
says Mr. Hart. "But the restrictions make
the assumption that our market area would
be Seaforth and the surrounding townships.
We propose that the market would be the
county, and this (development) won't be
done at the expense of the downtown," he
adds.
Mr. Seddon says the development would
be 'an "aggressive step forward for
Seaforth."
"When people think of industrial expan-
sion, they think next month.a factory will be
opening up, but it's not that simple," he
says. He explains that the guy opening a fac-
tory will look at towns to see what they have
to offer, and your town is in competition
with all other towns in Ontario. So expansion
has to be a package deal."
While some may question whether such
commercial and residential developments
are viable in rural Ontario, Mr, Hart says
Seaforth has a lot to offer when compared to
large cities. Namely: quality of life, health
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services, churches and schools, the people
generally have more disposable income, the
town has a strong Main Street, and 1.5
million people drive through the main in-
tersection each year.
And while a strong local economy is at-
tractive to developers, what is attractive to
consumers is low housing prices.
Mr. Seddon, who works and lives in Kit-
chener, says the average house price there
is $239,000, and the average price for an
average suburban residence is from $150,000
to $175,000. "Here $175,000 would buy you a
palace," he says.
The developers have not yet decided if
they'll be going ahead with their project, but
are leaning toward applying for another re-
zoning.
"Anything worthwhile is worth fighting
for," says Mr. Hart.
In the re -zoning the developers will apply
to have all the restricted uses removed and
some new uses added.
"Both municipal councils agree that
highway commercial land is needed, we just
can't agree on what the uses should be," ex-
plains Mr. Seddon. "We think it should be
lfeft wide open, and let the market decide
what's viable." •
"If we tell someone a business will go, it's
up to us to make sure it does. We're going to
be out there too, and we're going to make it
work," says Mr. Hart. "We'd be better to be
out there alone than be out there with 25,000
square feet of empty building beside us," he
says, adding he has to have the develop-
ment's and the town's best interests in
mind.
"But we're not going to be able to sell the
public on coming to a dealership and con-
tractor's yard," says Mr. Seddon.
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ACROPOL - Sakis Drouscas is also in
favor of commercial development and says
something is needed in town, but only in so
far as it doesn't conflict with Main Street.
"We're spending a lot of money promoting
Main Street, and we have enough
competition."
BOB AND BETTY'S - No comment.
KEATING'S PHARMACY - Against a
mini mall, but not against those services not
already available in the downtown core.
BECKERS - Not opposed as long as it's
not hurting business in town - "we won't
know until it's tried."
PHELANS PLACE - In favor of entire
development, and would welcome
competition.
CANDLELIGHT STUDIO - Feels a com-
mercial development would stop needed
highway traffic.
"I'm for it. 90 per cent of the people who
go through Seaforth do not know there's a
downtown."
KEN SMITH POOLS - "I think they should
go ahead with it" says Ken Smith. "There
have been a few here who have been bit-
ching about it, and all they're thinking about
is their own self interest. All they're going to
accomplish is to chase him out of town."
Asked if he thinks the development would
detract from Main Street Mr. Smith replies
"It would sure detract less from Main Street
than if he isn't in town at all."
KID'S KLOZE - "There are a few things I
would love to see, Seaforth needs a motel,
but there doesn't have to be an overlap (of
services)," says Joanne Aubin.
"I wouldn't want to see anything taken
away from Seaforth, but I think we need
something."
KLINGS - "I think if would be great. I
think the town needs an attraction like
that," says Marilyn Chesney.
SEAFORTH JEWELLERS - A dealership
would be all right, but not a lot of other
businesses. Small retail businesses would be
better kept for downtown, to keep traffic
here.
KNITTER'S LOFT - "I think we need it
but I hate to see strip malls." Hart's dealer-
ship or a lawn and garden centre would be
good uses - and there wouldn't be many
other businesses would say no to, says Anne
James. She adds she would hate to see the
loss of a grocery store downtown.
SEAFORTH MEAT MARKET - No objec-
tions to Hart expanding, no objection to mall
as long as it doesn't effect other retail food
outlets in town. Would like to see the dealer-
ship and the sale of new products.
HILDEBRAND FLOWERS - "I'd rather
see it here than on this side of Clinton," says
Steve Hildebrand.
HILDEBRAND PAINT AND PAPER -
"I'm for it, but I do think we've got to look
closely at it," says George Hildebrand. "I
don't want to see opposition to Main Street,
but from what I can see John Hart doesn't
want to put anything out there that will hurt
Main Street."
WONG'S GRILL - Yee L.K. says the pro-
posed development would rob a lot of
business. "If you have everything out there
it's like a town itself." He wouldn't oppose a
dealership or a motel, but would object to a
supermarket, some retail stores etc.
CAMPBELL'S HARDWARE - "It would
be nice to put limits on the development, but
sometimes if you try to limit expansion you
lose It. We can't afford to lose it," says Mr.
Campbell.
"We can't sit here and be judge and jury
on someone else's enterprise," he says, ad-
ding that if other towns acquire this Invest-
ment it could entice business away from
Seaforth.
SEAFORTH SEWING CENTRE - Liz
Moir says the development would have a
good effect on Seaforth, but some of the
businesses proposed aren't necessary. "It
would bring more people in, and give them
some incentive to stop, but we should put
things out there that' we don't already
have."
CUSTOM ART DESIGNERS - Laurie
Dumas says "I thought it was a great idea.
It means development, and it means
growth." She points to a small development
like this with a fruit market in Clinton, and
says it always appears to be busy. "A, mall
would only help this place."
FUTURES HAIR DESIGN - It would be
an advancement and a good idea. "Anything
goes. Put more hair shops in - makes good
competition."
BAUER TRAVEL - Gaby Costello says "I
don't think it's such a bad idea," but admits
her opinion would be influenced by the types
of stores listed. She says we don't need more
gas stations, but she would like to see
another department store, drug store and
supermarket.
"The stores here are well established and
if they have a good reputation people will go
back to them," she says. "It might even
create more business for Main Street,"
STEDMANS - Dave Deighton says the
town could benefit from a motel and other
similar commercial developments. Retail
establishments, he predicts, would have
some effects on his store but not a great
deal. Most of the effects would be seen on
weekends, he says. He opposes competing
retail outlets, but doesn't oppose the pro-
posal as a general commercial
development.
DON'S SHOE PLACE - Don Corriveau
says from his experience of locating a store
in the Suncoast Mall in Goderich, that he
doesn't believe the proposed mini mall
would take business from Seaforth. He says
he has no objections as long as there aren't
"fly by righters" who use such locations for
dumping stock.
GINETTE'S RESTAURANT - Dave de
Vries says he does' not approve of
everything in the plan, but believes a com-
promise can be reached to satisfy all par-
ties. "We don't have to lose the dealership
and possible other investment."
"How many merchants have actually sat
down and talked to John about his plans?"
he asks.
STEWART BROTHERS - "I don't think it
will transpire. I'm not confident they will
find people to go out there," says Dave
Stewart. He adds he's not opposed to the
dealership, but that he simply doesn't give it
much hope.
COMMERCIAL HOTEL - Doesn't see
enough information to make a decision at
this point, but Brian Coombs says commer-
cial development would probably be good
for the town.
CHIPPER'S CHICKEN - Janet Taylor
says "as far as I'm concerned it's O.K., but
don't think it will go. Mrs. Taylor points out
there are already, too many restaurants in
town, and says the development should in-
clude businesses which are needed - Such as
a motel - and not conflicting ones.
QUEEN'S TAVERN - "I'm for Hart being
out there, but it depends what else goes in."
says Cathy Ferguson, adding there are
enough restaurants and supermarkets in
town currently, but that a motel would be
great. "The town needs accommodations."
LEO'S AUTO - John Hart being out there
is no problem, but a mall out there will hurt
the town - "I think it'll just blow it away."
MCLAUGHLIN CHEV OLDS - No
comment.
MAC'S MILK - A good idea and a good
way to draw people.
WHITNEY-RIBEY FUNERAL HOME -
"It's progress. You can't stand in the way."
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