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Of. Iketregor and Dr. Gordon
Address La ; GitheriNg
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a d lbsflex :te.tin of the unionIn Knox Church, CoderJchAst p.rreoo�
' sseeldinig the lite .1 the nodes ui
truth sad r..wwa.
1 Sew w,esad dile sea charsi► be re-
presented fa the heeds. Geld! The
wend Peart he asi. Msariee is the
fords ,M4 was that we win have to
have a CbrietGhs chunk sad get a
way frost oar di>rdaloss rn tlst W.
Dr. McGregor Discusses the Question, "is Church Union
in Conformity With the Will of God." and Dr.
Gordon Shows the Crying Need in Cana-
dian West and Foreign Mel&
UNION IS. ALREADY FUNCTIONING IN THE WEST
Framers of Westminster . Confession of Faith Were Ad-
vanced Men With LYntan in•View—Dr. Gordon
Predicts Coming Together of Anglican
and Ow United Chnrches
For an audience thrt Hamid (if all
bad been ` seated doe nasa:ra izt place of
a number in the gallery) prectirslly
have tilled the ground floor of Knox
church, to listen with wrapt attention
till after 11 o'clock to the presenta-
tion of the case for church pnton.
was s tribute both to the speakers
who present&i the case and to the
Place the virion of a antted church
going out to do the work of
Christ in the world bas taken in the
imagin*tion cif the people. ' At the
• meeting in Knox ehureh on Monday
evening to bear the 'prep.ntation of
the union csuse, while some came in
lateafter attending other meetings,
very few, if. any, of the large sud-
ienee, left until the close of the meet-
ing, and the attention throughout
was the eloaesst. The speakers were
Rev. D. C. McGregor, B. A., B. D., of
St. Andrew's church, London, and
Rev. C. W. Gordon, B. A., D. 1).
(Ralph Cannot); 'ex -moderator of the
General Assembly, and their addres-
see" were masterly deliverances on
the- grant question of rherch union.
The pastor of the church, Rev. R.
C. McDermid, occupied the chair, and
In his opening remarks spoke of his
early association with the cburch of.
which Dr. McGregor is now the pas.
tor, from 'which' he received his fled
inelination towards the calling of .the
ministry.
Dr. McGregor, in opening, Bald be
considered it a high honor to be ask-
-,e o .ome to this._congregetion to
speak on the_ greeted question ever
before the church. He „referred 'to
his former associations with Mr. Mc-
Dearrnid in the Barrie Presbytery and
to the reportshe heard from his fel-
low workers there, all of whom spoke
well of ' Lim. .
It was really necessary to cdssrify
the question ;as to the real home, ,so
much had been said and 'written
which tended to befog the issue. It
was important. to face the issue, fair -
lx and.. squarely and . know crania
what we were voting on. It was not
theuostion of church union. That
stun jest, Was settled. two. far as the
an eh h ter Canada was
twinned,. in rtrN', when tits 'teeny.
*ism • chur#b in; arsada 440 to
tt'• into union) end that decision stood
.today; from t)rat deelefon the church
e
had never maned.
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The Federal legislation was what
was called'enabling legislation." It
was sometimes said that the United
Church ores eroded by Act of Par-
liament, but this was not correct.
The union was formed by the free
and independent action of the nego-
tiating churches, acting through
their governing bodies and according
to their constitution, and the Act
was pasted at the request of these
churehes. The civil authority 'Sim-
ply recognized the right of the chur-
ches to .unite. The churches united
themselves; it was not by Act of
Paziiament. On June 14th next the
Predbyterian Church in Canada
would go into union, without lose of
identity, by virtue of its own Let and
of the Act of Parliament.
Any congregation not wishing to
concur with its mother church, when
it would go into union had the right
of expressing its noti'eoncurrence, so
the vote; to be taken shortly. was not
a vote on church union, but n vote to
determine the destiny of the indivi-
duaLeongregation,_ as to whether. at
midnight .on June huh it would Sep,
ar-ate from its motherchurch And be-
come an independent congregation.
If a congregation voted to go into
union it became a part of the United
Church, a part of that great church
in line with all the developing life of
the country, where it could influence
the life and growing development of
the country. • carnal and walls as men. For white
United Cheek would become Gio
greatest agency L the work of ins
foreign Sold. If 86 per cent. o; our
tnlaiotsaries in On foreign !raid said
that church union would bele them.
should we deny there the help they
were looking for from us at home.
because of personal prejudies and
sentizaent. It was not of such stuff
the Prelbyterians of the part had
been made, nor the Presbyterians of
today, who had been trained in a 1
.church which held aloft the cross of ,
Christ which spelled ssaeriace, and
*ben that appeal was put Presbyter -1
ions would not fail to rise to the
greet opportunity of servicer,
In his 'mind there were lust three
questions to consider
lst, the primary question, Is
church union in harmony with the
will, of Christ ?
2nd, Does Canada need church un-
ion and does the world need church.
union ?
3rd, Does church union involve a
sacrifice of any essential principle in
my faith??
And if we could answer thou +te
questions affirmatively after being on
our knees, then we must feel quite
convinced that when we go to east
our ballota when voting day comes,
we were called on to do the great
thing involved in ' church Union.
These were the only argue'
that could be made. He had had itr
Perrie in his pulpit In London ai-1
his whole talk was a glorification of
denominationalism, and that denona•
inationalisnt was necessary to over-
come abuses
vercome"abuses that might grow up :it e
united church, and was the best in
the interests of the church. Dr.
McGregor then called up in evidence
the supreme standard, the Word of
God, the subordinate standards, the
Auld Kirke in Scotland, the pioneers,
of our owe" church and our own ,chore
eh's action.
• First the evidence of the Word of
.God; the su$reme sta•'dard of faith.,
Ile found Paul 'giving utterance to
the -following in his letter to the Cor.-"
inthians, "For ye are yet carnal; for
whereas there is among you envying
and strife and divisions, are ye not
If a: c n Isftion rented to stay eine saith I am of Paul, and another i
• out of•�union it became inlia-denena. am of Apoilos, are ye not carnal?"
eat congregation. It might remain an
independent congregation. to the end I Then Dr. McGregor quoted • the
of • time if It .wished, or it could words of Jesus Christ in the I7tti
-unite with other concurring congre chapter of . John, where Ile prayed,
;rations and the new church could cell "I'haat they .all may be one as thou
itaeslf 'Presbyterian; the only name it father art in me and 1 in thee, that
could not esil itself was "The Presby- the world may believe that thou had
terien church in Canada."' mit new:. sent'me." Those opposed. to union said
church would have very little west' of that this referred to a. spirituel •un.
Lake Superior or in the Maritime pro- ion and not visible• union,. but the
winces. But it was said by.t a anti- world .could not be convinced. by •a'�
unionists, "We are going to have' a spiritual unity that diet not result in
strong church/between Windsor end 'visible unity. He agreed that those
Montreal."'. Thhi.atestbe most words did refer to a spiritual unity,
densely popeteted Tare of Canada, but was convinced that what Jesus
but was only- one On141 victim of the Christ had in mind wee pla a v'ie
country in eitksnt, r *wild thio' ible Mei y; itf unit sit* there wt.re,
new church iafluatee .the developing 257 varieties of Protestantism in the
life of Canada if it was not repro- United .States- and ho supposed al.
anted inthe east and in the .west, most as many in Canada. The world
Was it willing to cut ititeif off a a
fror looked at that and what.was the int
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Cu
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M. ROBI Reduction Sale
Men's Al Wool. Sweaters
Fancy checks, all sizes, reduced to
$425
Men's and . Young Men's Caps
in pawns, Greys, •Blue Heathers and
Velours, reduced to''
$1.45 and $1.75
Men's All Wool Jumbo Knit
Sweater Coats
in Brown, Grey, and Heather, reduced to
$4.45
" .. Boys' Reefer Coats
in Brown Tweeds, size.2 to 6 pars
$a95
ROBINS
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GLOVES.
WOOL GLOM
Grey, fawn or white with large cuff, per pate
96c and $1.25
calowoisErriz EVES
Fancy +Chamoisettec ()loves, shades Hack, Beaver,
mode, pongee and brown, best quality.... -.$1:35 or 95c
Main two -domed Gloves, any shade, pair
3JL1C' GLOV' E*S •
.Special line, in shades pongee, brown or
silver,. fancy cuff, per pair $I.95
Towels
They are always appreciated aur' a gift.
and you will find that we hoive a splendid
forge of patterns. Singe Towels sell.
59e, 65c, 75c, 95c and $1,26
Silk Lingerie .:
Vests, ilooners,`Princss Slips and Silk
Brassieres, neatly boated. We have a
good stock of the best shades. •
Velour Kimonos
lu full range of sizes and shades, made
of Lawrence or Beacon cloth, pried at•.. .
. or ,.� ,..$�•=or.56.95_
Pongee 3ilk
In natural shade only, width 32 incites.
You can matte dozea of dainty Christmas
gifts with raw silk, per .yard ........69c
Brushed ;Woof Sweaters
Just the thin for.cold Winter days,
"The -shades are grey, fawn, camel'
and. buff... Severah•different styles.
Sold regularly .at 116.75, special this
week, each . .. ... . $4.95
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Special Attention to
Mail '9004,
and: Phone Orders,
pression on the world? Was the -1000.4tltke'
• world convinced of .eptritual unity. . •
by that. The world was scoffing„ and '•-"`� Q
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59c f,
Boated HANDKERCHIEFS
LADIES'
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Boxed two or three to a box.;box.;made of finest lawn,
with dainty corners, per box ..5O , 65c, 74, $5c, $11.25
C HILDiteN'S
Three to a box with nursery rh_
. lustrated on the box. These are a box
Or best quality with figured come
'tees printed and il-
25
, per box....50c
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A Christmas Gift
of lastingValue
JjOl 'kOOF Hosiery is 'the one
Christmas gift you can be sure
is Oust what was waiated.':'� For ev-
eryone needs abd appreciates a !hitt
of hosiery. And Holeproof is so
beautiful and •sd much more durable
than ordinary he/fiery that it` akes
ntx
an ideal Chriete gift.' It goes
right qtr giving satisfaction :long .af-
ter' other, gifts.. are forgotten..., We
provide an attractive Christmas pack-
age -for each purchase. - •
No. 1810 --.Silk and wool, mock Seam.
Extra-streteK. " -rib:— top., Popular
shades : $2.00
No. ,80. --Pure thread silk, mock
seam. Extra -stretch 'rib top. Lead-
ing colors. Per pair • '.$1.73
No. - 590:: -Pure thread silk, mock
seam. hem top. All colors.' Per
pair . • ,., . 91.50
bilk Scarfs
We have dozen., of Scarfs that you can
choose from a 'eek we are offering
a special r e df pure silk .Scarfs • at
each H. $1,$5
Silk Bose
She will appreciate a parr of fine silk`
Hose. We have them .in shades, black, wi
. brown, beige, camel, silver grey, log cab-
in; indian tan, pongee or white.,.'p ices•
95c„ $11.35,• $1,60, $1,75, $1.95, ,$2.50 Wr
Wool :Blankets , r
Make a real gift. You can buy
white .With pink ;nn blue borders, -0"r, we "T
have them with large • check pattern. '.
priced from.. , .....$8.50 'to $15.00 pair
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Itow Crepe . Dens es
' Sold regularly up -to $20. Good
'range •of styles and sizes, almost..
•everyne..brand,new; eiearing this
week at. ; $13.95
Silk Vesting
Knitted ,silk, made tubular, the shades
are white, flesh, .maize or orchid, per •
$1.;Z0
. ' yard •
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P110!
Ilea' )ev v10>exte
saying, "Till the Churehea get togeth- pie were .the church; who ever denied
'e a .are o-
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er them ve and'r pettyi, But theP eb ri fists
rsel a forget then t . uY`te apsee
• divisions they have no message of • ple • who voluntarily • have agreed on
brotherhood for us " a • certain • form of • government. ' "I
r. { .. depart made a .study _ of ' Weaterit 1 ant lt- is a, cbtirch o£ i.ie i1ving God,heve y
life and a cotttmi not on the -Chihli:- under the direction and inspiration
Ian religion could not Understand the of the living. God„and when she reap
number of competitive Sao t dioniniuous ty. cites a decision, proceeding accordhlig
i we wanteda every tsrnce community. to her constitution. and government.
0 pi to y we must g veworla of .having• prayed the matter through, 1
s apiiiturl reklity we mart give ex•
pression to it. - -_- believe that so far aashe esn:Rad it
The s her said he would • next:"ou:that decision is the will of God.
l The reason 1 am a 'uniorrist is be-
tall up the subordinate 2tandards- of cause I am 'a 'Presbyterian. When
faith. We were bearing a great deal .'my church speaks she' speaks • #ori`
about the Westmtneter .Confession of me." • But the right of diesetit ,woe
Faith, and the unionists were tote allowed in the Presbyteriihn church.
they. Were forsaking it. Dr, &1cGze••
'What bad ' the . church, : done? In
fluor then read Stora the Westminster 18,E the Presbyterian Home Misrion.
Canfeseion of Fsith. to show that 9t Board made suggeshtlons to ill • drawn ue by a, coteeof on odiat Home Miselon• Board which re.
which - ware eight 90 Angli of the suited• in a conference. Or. McGre.
Church of Scotland. 130 Anglicans and
some Congregationalists, with the gor said he could talk for hours on
object of forming. a bails on which the 'Horne Mission Board and told of
the reformed churches of Great Bri- how he was tent into a field in tl"e
Iain and Ireland could nnite. The West as the only worker there, only
traditions of Presbyterianism were to find that a Methodist was;there
thus in favor of union; those who ahead of him. Between themselves
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apposed anion . were turning their they agreed they did not , want . both
backs on these traditions. • to stay in- the field but were told by
Dr. McGregor also.queted from the their boards.r.,to' stay: That sort of
section fof the We etetinater Conten. shoot 'wan a scandal. bioe of
tea
cion on the Communion ,of Saints phem to upend it fru thatsortof inter- • it enjoin* that."consntunion as petition. the were. not inter -
God oIT.reth opportunitt le to be ex- n omi 'in � the titferet► n th between, .d p
tended to all those who every place nominations chist brll it when they held e
call upon the name of Jesus." ,l i gardless of denominatto nes and
wlah • the they woulde, be loyal to that,. lin
of the speaker's best asniperterss
fin that mission field were 1%oat*n t:.a-
But it might he said that was pre,. *Mies. "Out there,” he said, '"You
ty old; that was in 1647. He would don't think of petty things, for One
next see what the Cnurch of Scot- are big men living in a big country."
'land, the Auld Kirke, said about suti-.1 The Home Misafon Boards of the
ion. The Church o Scotland, in its two churches got. together in a round
articles declaratory of its faith "re. ''table conference and apyarinted a
cognises the obligation, to' reek and committee and worked on it till 1916,
promote union with other churches in iuet to meet that problem and :het
which it Ands the word to be purely resulted in the union movement.
preached, the aetraments administer 1 It was Bald this was . a ministers'
ed sceording to Christ's ordinanoa • movement. "Thank God," ,, he said,
and discipline rightly exercisrdr" "for the leadership of ministers:"
Thus we nee historic t're.bytertan- natives what they were for. What
Into is eornmltted to union. Those would we think of pol Ieal, leaders
are in the trine Presbyterian suecea• .who had not got any opinions till
'slot who promote aniot,. o they saw which way the people wore
It was said by anti unionists. "Oh ;going to vote? The ministers were
for a Grant aid for a Car.tt" What not acting selfishly in union. If *ay
slid theme -great matcher* of the were they would argue, the store
choral say? The opiate quoted eorigregatkine the greater the Ile.
Principal Grant as saying, in 1174 mond for -ministers, but sinieters
that it eras wr to blame the Bap- ' were making decisions War whjeh
Usti; aid Aagikans for ocr divisiotas, 'rtteant they were reit* to lose their
till Prettiytwians tbeasselree getcongrestatione..
)6144 and in 11" Dr, Caress use tbl+w ' The text step was for the General
mover in the Glerteral Areeeerbly of a
rest .wt to '14'144,, a (siatnittet ewrh �� t• disease ea* 3.4 tisit
itttieth, and eeth 1M4 be %Atit r,sw, provided tetra rote of the ,people la
(*eh."'" at the* eagm"ittse.. 7, r,r. 1811, which tees In the lhrolhertion ee
wens were istatelanren, prephetsn, the es to 31 the a favorable 0 athlea In the
pinsteere of the great anion ewe. As.►mbty the anti -union leaders said
men#. we will w *tbdrew oust' optwehi3tierfr i'f
Yoe will with as it termed y too
Next the *neither tache aeons to doing a praeticeXy teaftainomm ratio
action of the P, i , it etfo les let might be aeeared in time. Th. an. _
Canada. It wee said the people, beide were'AM* to wait and in
were' the cikarebb. Of costae the pee. 1.1S it• wdecided cide net to limiest -
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to ,union immediately.' in. 1914 the they would again have the same eys-
ahsee • : r the unsiozr+ . leaders ..received re:received tem of government which they ' .
was the o'}ganization of the 'Presby- podiated in not ;accepting the dects-
terian Church' Association .to. make ,ion of the church courts.
impossible the realization 'oil' their'. •°
hopes. In 1915 the :-General .Assem _ .r...
bly sent the question down 10 the Peo-
ple again :and on the • ballot was the
reminder .that decision would be
reached on the basis of the vote cast,
'and. the vote was in the proportion of 9,
61 to 39 in favor of union. Then the
Presbyteries voted arid the , vote'
stolid 53 to 13 for asking the Assent-
bly to go 'forward. In 1916' the Gen
eral , ;Assentblyt. made the decteion and
that was 'standing today, If minor-
itieg were to rule any olrganized' sys-'
tem of governmenk would fail. And
When the non-concurring congrcga.
tiontt of Presbyterians re -organized
To Merchants cirri' Salexzru.,
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.The Order you lost
—Who got it?
The opportunity was there.
Dill your competitor call up
your customer by T.orig
Distance, and dell lura?
Opportunities used to cone
a -knocking at the, cic;or.
Xowitdlaya t alexin n go out
to met them half*way»-•
by Long T?if;toner.
'1'fiey tell 118 flint about 4Od'v
of the sale,o opportunities
• they go after by telephone
prove profitable. Suelt
salesmen *re said to have
"telephone initiative."
.t well -claimed pl*n of e*leA
by Long Distant)+, and-
salcsm en with "telephone
initiative" handlisng it, may
be just; what your need to
mores a rale .
Invest gine itatii.,asq h triol:'
But it was said,: Why diclet 490�
:give us a vote in 1823? icon diel not:
. trust the people. What wire there to
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