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HomeMy WebLinkAboutThe Huron Expositor, 1940-02-09, Page 2TIM Oomoitt U '9, 194 r�r e�. 1 r.SiY•u+>t. Hi } uron Expositor' Established 1860 ett. 1VicPhail McLean, Editor. Wished at at Seafortli, Ontario, ev- r Thursday afternoon • by McLean os. +;AFORTI , Friday, February .9th Open. Roads in Winter The severity of the weather • and the depth of snow in this district this winter, has no doubt ' had a good deal ito do with making the question of 4ening all country roads for motor traffic, a live and general topic of conversation these days. Five 'years ago, to have advocated an open road policy, would have.been rooked upon as impracticable idiocy, not to mention the expense angle. But five years ago is not to -day. ._'To -any the ,open road policy has. al- ready taken form, and as far as ,county roads are concerned, is al- . ready in operation 'and the ;reason of the change is in evidence On • every Mand; - To -day the' farmer has not a.driv- ing horse and no harness to put on it if he had. Neither has he a cutter. Pis heavy horses are not accustomed to the road and he dislikes to expose them to the many dangers they would run by using therm there. There is no teaming to do because. all the teaming is done by car or truck, and when the concession road is blocked to these vehicles, the farm- er is tied un tight. He does not like that, and what is more, he cannot .afford` to like it if lie did. With open county roads the farmers bordering on those roads have a great advant- age over those living on the conces- sion roads. The 'concession farmer does not like that either. And why lould he, when he •helps -to -pay for :keeping the other fellows road open?, And then there is the great ques- tion of expense. But expense has not kept the cars and trucks off the ' farms, . nor is ,it going to keep the. plows off the concession roads. As a matter of fact the cry of • expense - SOMething of a bogey: Viewed -as - a ,total, it iodks , pronibltive, but spread it round a bit, and it almost vanishes. This fact was brought home to us by a statement contained in the County Engineer's report to County Council at the 'recent session, to the effect that if the county was to spend six thousanddollars on keep- ing the oads open for motor traffic on top of what was ordinarily spent on keeping them open for horse ve- hicles, the cost to an ordinary hun- dred acre farm would be twenty-six cents. , Is there a car owning farmer who would not be willing to .pay twenty- six cents for the privilege of having an open` road all winter long? A few, perhaps, but not many, and how many farmers who have braved the, blocked concessions with horse and. cutter or team and sleigh, that have not been forced to part with a good ileal more than twenty-six cents by way of repairs to harness or injury to their horses? As far as we can learn it would cost a township in the neighborhood of "4:,000 to provide equiprlent for 'keeping all roads ploughed in winter. That equipment, however, would serve a double purpose. The motive part could be used as• a power grader in the summer time, and a plow could be attached for winter use. ' Power -graders will appear on the budget of every township in the immediate future, so if eventually, why not now? Or there is another alternative. The county, we understand, charges two dollars and a half an hour for the the use of their plows in towns and we imagine the charge to townships would be very similar. Even the end of an eight hour day would••••see•-•a lot of concessions free' 'of snow and the i i ence of .a week's operations+ would not prove prohibitive. We may be a little optimistic, but we do, not 'believe that - five years in now there will be a street in Or village ora road in any Sricp that will not .be open to or t o 11✓1111 winter long, no that. evoke the weather or how o falls Not Proud Of Huron- „ `uron„ In a recent editorial on the ;delib- erations. of the Huron `County Coun- cilrespecting reforestration the Brantford Expositor says: "The Huron County Council rec- ently voted down a motion to place $2,000 in, this year's estimates with Which to inaugurate a long -advocat- ed programme 'of reforestration. Warden Feagan expressed disap- pointment, In that he will be joined by all who realize the definite and high value and, in fact the' necessity of reforestration, in Ontario. The $2,000 staved will not mean more than a few coppers in the pockets of Hur- on ratepayers, where the same $2,000 spent on reforestration would have been an investment that would have yielded big dividends in the future. The Hirron, Council is not to be con- gratulated”. It is sometimes good to see our- selves as others see us, And in this case the words of the Expositor are both appropriate and timely. While we have been patting ourselves. on the back for this Measure ..of•'econ- omy, the - opinion of an unbiased world is that it is not at all proud of Huron, nor are we even open for con- gratulations. But reforestration.. is not.. the only point wherein the Huron council has shown a lamentable lack of economic foresight in the administration of county affairs. It is generally ack- nowledged that :Huron has the ' best system of county roads in the ' Prov-> ince of Ontario . Deputation after deputation has come to this county to see our roads and to see the spec- ifications from which they were built and the manner of their building. County after county has modelled their roads on our pattern because none other has been proven better, more lasting or cheaper. -We have a bituminous hard surfaced road north of Seaforth that for smoothness and durability has no superior and we doubt if it has an equal, in Ontario. We have a similar road from Bruce - field to Bayfield and ,a number of miles of similar road in other parts - .of . the,. County. We also have in Huron a -blituin- inous hard surface road running from Bayfield to Grand Bend on the Bluewater Highway, that was built by the Province of Ontario. This part of the highway has been most highly commended .by. every motor- ist who has travelled it, and it is a road very heavily travelled by Am- erican as Well as Ontario motorists. And yet, this highway is no srno.other no better built than our own hard -surfaced roads, while its cost to Hur- on ratepayers, as well as to those in other counties, was”' three times as. great. If any proof is needed in support 'of these -statements, we would point to the fact that the Ontario Depart- ment of Highways has in contempla- tion the immediate construction of six hundred miles of bituminous hard surfaced highway to be built from the specifidatidns prepared by the Huron County Engineer, and from which our own county reads were constructed. One would naturally think then, that an engineer possessing the abil- ity and the capacity to save the rate- payers two-thirds of the cost of what other ratepayers in other counties are paying for similar transportat- ion facilities would receive the rec- ognition as well as, the solid support and backing of an, economy, minded County Council. Judging, however, from a perusal of the proceedings of the recent ses- sion of County Council, this is not the case at all. In fact when a. motion was made to restore the salary of the County Engineer to what it was when he was' engaged by the county something over fifteen years ago the move was bitterly fought until a -compromise was reached and the salary was placed some three hund- red dollars below that figure. We noticed in this case, however, that the Warden did not express dis- appointment as .he did in the (fatter of reforestration. App=arently, he is more concerned about the tax bur- dens of _. -lti"tare---generations than those of the present: There is . another department of Huron Can ity faffairs that merits F\ ears Agorae Intereetiing items Picked From The Huron Expositor of Fifty and Twenty-five Years Ago. From The Huron Expositor February 12; 1915 A log was brought into Pordwich mill Tett week which measured 1Q40 feet. Weans. O. Oast. weight, F. Gainey, F. Brown, and 'F- Prest, left Londese boro, last week for London where they went into training for the third Cana- dian Oont1gent. A very pleasant evening was spent February' 1st im Varsity stadium rink Toronto, it being the arenniou of the graduates of the Seaforth Collegiate Institute, Among those 'present were, Miss M. Cowan, Miss Mary Cowan, Misty Florence Knight, Miss Jean Carswell, Misr Mary Habkirk, Miss Helen Larkin, Miss 1r,. Laidlaw, Miss M, Johnstone; Miss Pearl Ross. The gentlemen present were Mesmer': Gor- don Ganld, John Dickson, Jamee Dick- son, Arch. Dickson, J. A. Mahoa, W. G. Str ng, N. Trucenner, A. Suremus, J. Watt, M. Maher, G:" Stephenson, E. Rivera, B. Scott, R. Scott, Fred.' Latakia, 11. L. Donrance, A. Archabald, A. J'ahn- stop, R.Geiger, B. Kerr. Mrs. Pangman and Miss Dickson: acted as - patronesses. Lyle Hill, of Brueefiield who has' been taking a course at the O. A. C. Guelph, has, enlisted for the army and: left on Monday for Toronto for train- ing. The following 'list of those who have run hotels in Seaforth during. the last fifty yearn has •been 'furnished us by Mr. Thomas Stephens of the Queen's hotel. Tiros. Downey, A. Mcle non, R. Carmichael, Thou,. Knox, R. L, Sharp, Thos. Foster, Wm. Houghton, James Welsh, James McBride, John McBride, R. Richardson; Sohn Currie, David Currie, A_ Mcpeod, John Murry, Patrick Murray, Simon Powell, Jobe Bmigham; • A. Lancaster, A. Montgom- ery, , FL, Hunner) ,1V J,.:,,:Ohambers, James Foster, R. Dennie, R. P. Lloyd, C. Dunlop, -P. McCallum, Wmm, Pinkney, Jas. Weitz, Wms Simpson:, R. Ritchie, Wm. Hawksha,w, R. Devereaux, E. Dawson, Peter Markle, James Ross, Jast, White, John) Carroll, Robt. Hays, M. Purcell, A. Davidson, J. Ceniplbel•1, W.m,. Hergott, R. Roach, C. Wolper, 3. Bowden, - •J. Dopp, 'Themes Stephens, 11 Ritchie, Heady Beoe., O'Leary, F. Kling, W. Andrew's, A. Kling, Jno. Miller, War, Flannigan, J. McClinclhey, A. Strong, T. Pigukney, C. Broad,Soot, A. McLennan, J. Dick, F. Shanley, Ellie„and Kain, F. Carlon„ IL P. Ken nedy,. Henderson end DeLace, H. Carno+chan, J. Hamilton, J. Fitzpatrick. L. Weir, James Mutely. Five !hundred acres of flak sail in the melgh'b,orhood of the mills ' at Zurich will be leased for a season at a ,rental of $10.00 per acre,' the owners to do the plowg and cultivating only, the mall owners ,doing the balance of the' work.' ,Mr. William Wes4 catt of Usborne has pur�s,ed a house en Hiffea- St. in fnom Ma Daniel Woodts of Exeter. The names, of the winners in the recent bonspiel at London, from Hen - pall,.. are Messrs. Jorn Steacy, Alfred Taylor, George Joynt, and Charles A. MMDoneli, skip. • From The Huron Expositor February 14, 1890 Mr. South has sold:"hits, farm in the TowaStrip of Hay to Mr. Wm. Calweli for $121)0, Mr. Soldate has purchased a (Continued on Page 3) lar attention. The Hur- on County Treasurer, might be referred to as an- other prophet who is not without honor, save in his own county. However he is recognized as one of the most able financial men oc- cupying similar positions in the Province. - His methods and advice have repeatedly been sought by municipali- ties in and out of the Goon= ty, as well as by financial officials in other counties of Ontario. During his term of office he has brought order out of. chaos and built un a smooth running financial machine that so ably administers Huron's financial affairs that even an economy coun- cil is abundantly pleased and satisfied. In this case too, one would naturally think that , Huron County, above all counties, would recognize these things That instead of paying him the salary of a minor county official it Would pay him a a salary in keeping with the importance and responsibili- ties of his office and that would only be a proportion of what he Saves the county in dollars and cents every year. In these two things as well reforestration we join The Brantford Expositor and the rest of the outside bus - hie -, world' in Saying "The Huron Connell is not to be e'ongratu1 " ® Phil Os fexq yof • •� Iaazy A ea owe :•. I►13+' Katie J. DWI, What! Again I "!had a letter this -Week- from a lady to New York. She is a regular sebscriber of thie paper and she flat- tered:me by saying that thus column of mine. was one of the first things, sthe' reale. In the letter she says, "Do write more about that baby. It seems to me that nothing could be' of more interest than Patricia Ann. Why I've even got her picture in 'mg mind! Do write more stories about her." Somehow there seems'' to be a uni- versal appeal to babies, It rather did my heart good to be visiting recently and having the piuvi'lege .of meeting a eouti'med ok1 bachelor with whom the word "senti•mentality" just. does - nit seem to rhyme. Before leaving he whispered to me, "By George, but I've enjoyed hearing about that baby of yours, and the • very first time I get I'm going over to see), her." Needless to say I'm tempted to switch th'e theme of this column over to that off babies and forget about the farm doings,- but common sense has !b en telling :me 'pe'ople would • get ti ed of hearing me rave about this new addition to the Gaiter th•ousehold. There',s a story in every smile of baby. Strange how each time that Patricia Ann 'smiles it seems even .more wonderful than the last time. You detect that it looks 'more grown up . . that she's developing the most wonderful dimples.You even call for Mrs; Phil to stop her industrious mixing of batter to come over, floury arms. and all, to see the baby smile. She oom;plains a little about the fam- ily nuisance, but: always comes Over to peer Into the cradle at the newest development in 1940 smiles. Or take,- for instance, the times yvthen you suddenly get tired of clean- ing grain or some of 'the other 'menial tasks and amble up to the house. Mrs. Phil is busy . • the baby's good and youl're warne.dI not to disturb cher: "But ,just one tyny leek." You look! Baby' smiles! You put your ,hat down and venture a finger ill the neighbor- hood of ,her chin. Baby chuckles! You pull up a chair and start talking very low. Then rembering the work, at - ter several minutes, you ease away, reach for the hat arid almost get to the -door when Patricia Ann dli'scovers' year absence anal let's forth a • clarioiu oak, - It develops into your being ohm, ed entirely or else ushered into the task of amusing baby, who, as is us- ual under such, circumstances, wants to' really be amos'ad Yes, ,there's a slteryi ie' the way she chuokles, to herself . . plays with a flimsy gew-g'aw of a rattle . , tries to rail over In her eradle , ..d?seuvei•s- for the first tine the fascination of playing hide and seek with the growma- ups . . pertly flips the- nipple" ,from the corner of her mouth when )she's simply tired of that same old diet 'of prepared milk. ` In calmer ,times you even recall the ,nights when you re, ire playedt' out by the busy grind of daily work. -You slither &into bed- with sin ache in every bone, thankful for the warm comfort of. the .seta sheets and pillow case . • the luxuriant give to the mattress , and in a few seconds, go sliding off down into that black abyss that is sleep . . onlg to be awakened with a start as the wailing sound of the baby pierces your comforting ,, slee,p. Is, sane fooling? Is she getting teeth? Is she sick?. Try the hot water bottle on her,.stormach? And as you struggle, around in a half • coma, you wonder in a irague sort of way if you were ever a baby • yourself, forgetting that it's been weeks since baby acted like this. You discover that there are other babies i'n the world. You find your- self leekin '. them over more intently, and wondering why their smile is not as fascinating as that of your own! There's a story in the way you watch her at play and wonder what she will be in the years to come, You ' try to puzzle_ o out the v tthefeatures will develop .. • whrat she will look like -. and so on. No matter who they are, hard heart or soft heart .. there's, magic in the velvety touch of a baby's fingers that seems to reach out and strike home in a warm, pleasant way making you forget the. harsh realities• and think only of the pleasant side' of affairs. It looks, folks, as if the baby., has taken up some more of your time,' Do you mind? Shipped First App1CS • TOronto,O ttardo.:- The Editor, The Huron Expositor: Dear Sir; I enclose a'M+oney Order, for $3.00 re may subsori+ption, 1 noticed a, few months agoin your paper an article dealing with the ex- port of apples: to the British Isles, You mentioned a number of ship- pers of many years ago but I notice you o'm,itted the ramie of my late 0 father, H. N. McTaggart, who had a general store and' was, Postmaster of • Chlselhurst and whom I beleive was, the •first, exporteai of apples, from that district and continued for many years in that business,. Yours very truly, W. O. McTaggart :JUSTA SMIIaE ORTWO: "Your school report is disgrace- ful, Bobby. Aren't you ashamed of yourself?" "Dad, you prom:i'sed me $5 if I brought home a good report, and mummy told me you couldn't .afford it." • Bismarck was commissioned by the Emtperor to diecorate with the Iran Cross- a s'a'idiar--wtho .had shown. great Presence of mind in a moment of ex- treme. [dangjer. t''I lam authorized," said Bismarck, "to offer you 100 that - 'ars instead of the cross." "Plerase sir, ,how much' is' the Cross worth?" enquired the soldier. "Three tlb,alers." "Very well,- your highness, may - I take the cross and 97 thaless." Busnnazr* was so pleased by the shrewdness of the reply that the sol- dier received' both. - Name (suspiciously): "What have you been doing, Ellen?" Ellen: "Rover's eater, my delly's sdi'ppers, so I'v'e been punishing him." Nurse; "How? F111'en' '`I've been, to his kennel and dtrdnked his milk." ' • CoOwner: "1` fixed that knock in my motor Myself." Mechanfie:__ "How?" , , "Simple --I just loosened up one of the mudguards!" • A teacher was impressing upon her Chase the fact that .you ca not sub- tract one thing from others, unless they are of the '.same denominbtinii. "For 'ins'tance," she said,, "we cannot take two apples from three oranges." Thee, .a bright bo.y said: -"But, teacher, can't we take four apples from two trees?" ® VanEg:ond's Apology ; For" His Presende In O :MacKenzie's Camp '(Introduction and Nates Profe•ssof W. B. Kerr of the, ti riversity of Buf- falo.) And reprinted t'rom the papers anti' records, vol, XXXIII of the On- tario Historical. Society. - '.The claim of Anthony Van Egmond to ,be remembered by the people of Western Ontario rests on his leer - vices during the settlement of the Huron Tract, 1828.37. It is for an- other reason, however, that his name occurs in the histories of Upper Can- ada. He fell out with the officials of the. -Canada Company who s,ucceded- Jelin Galt, joined the Reform Party and canine to know W. L. MacKenzie. As Van E'gmeed was. reputed to have -h,aa; much military experience under Napoleon, MacKenzie offered him the command of the rebel force in Nov- ember 1837. Van Egmond accepted and arrived at Montgomery's„•in _the_ muorrrin:g of December 7th., 1837, too late to be any real service to his. friends., Ilis life has been sketched by the author in a serlee of articles in the Huron Expositor in the autumn protesting against +certain . practices • of the. Company and instructing Van I':gn-end- t ----publish a circular about hem; and some smart business 'let.- 1;ers,, The officials of the jail added to these a letter from., Van Egmond to the cosntmissioners •of the court of en- quiry into the rebellion December 21, 1837, and the document which follows; and so the Van Egmond packet in, 'the Upper Canada Sundriesr was made up:•,. In this s'ocum-ent, Van Egmond was evidently trying, to frame -a story' which would' -make him appear an in- nocent nnocent bystander in the Montgomery's I evern affair. His version was, that he was proceeding, to Toronto on bus- iness when he was made prisoner by MacKeniie's men and carried to their, headquarters at Montgomery's. There he 'advised Gibson and Lount to sur - Fender. MacKenzie offered) ,hirci the -com-nvan.d; but he refused it: Such a version of course will not bear exam- inations That MacKenzie should of- fer the oomman,d .to a mere chance prisoner of uncertain sympathies, is of couns'e iwconceivable. In addition, there isthe best of documentary evi- dence tc refute Van Egmond. He 'himself sent a ld'tter to MacKenzie which was minted in the Constitution, ,September 27, 1837 and which speaks the .language of revolt. "Our present disease requires, the ,s'tr'angest of rem- edies; we the patients need a radical cure, aro palliatives,, humbugs).” James Craig of Galt heard an inn -keeper named Everitt say that Van Egmond 'had ,been• et his, ,home about Novem- ber 27 ox 28 on a journey to Toronto, had displayed letters from MacKeneie and: declared the the province -.,would have anlotlhler... government 'ahefore a month' was out, (1) Joins Ralph;, MacK- -enaieis associate, knew at the end of Noye giber that Van Egmond, had eon serbted to take the command and would be in camp for the, advance do ' the city on Deeen l»er 7111 (Dent Ii; 12-13, 19=20), 'The evidence of John ti,nfoot and others during the trial, of Joh.rt -M'ontgom'ery, (need by Dent II, 121-23, +Proves...Grtat••Ven EgMen4 was with the rebels voluntarily, took part in their council and made the dispositions of the her, for the 51dr ntsk " • • The Stor'y of the kidnapping Cannot be &eclapW. DM it Soothed -to Van 00611.1ted opt il)• of 1931, I am bound to say that a difficulty hes arisen, with regard to Van Egmonrd'S career as a soldier. He spoke of it often • himself and all his oonutemmpararies io Upper Canada took it for granted. But my 'enquiries- et the war offices of France and Holland have evoked no trace of him. It may be that he served in 'ono of Napo'l- eon's German contingents; bet I am unable to solve the problem at ,present, Van Emend was captured, by the loyalists in the afternoon, of Decein- her 7th, 1837, and taken to the city' jail of Toronto, He was carrying a bundle of Miele at the time. These were taken from Brim, and examined. Z1hey, erre now in the Upper Canada Sundries, Public Arcth'ives of Canada, in the v"olurcnt of Deeeniidier 1 to 22, 1837. For the meat part they are re- eordig of Van Elgrmond's hostility to the 'Canada Company and in particu- lar to Thomas Mercer Jones', its coni- nndssion'em of Graderiolll, There is 's; draft of 'a letter to Jones. anal the let- ter itself, dated November 21, 1837; tWO drafts of a 'panipblet against the Company, annals printed address to its ifrobriete'er; an esbayw is praise: Of Galt the tames of m; meriting Of the sett tl ,l i Huron in NoVeltliher 5887 , From California The Editor, The Huron, Expositor: Tarzana, California. Dear Sir: Well, I see it is time to - renew our subscription to your paper, so enclosed you will find $2.00' to pay for' same, and I want to thank you for :sending the paper so promptly. If we didn't get it we would amiss,- it. We like to get all the newts,! and lately we have been much, interested in your weather reports after your beautiful Autumn and. early winter. You have been having a, ,real old fashioned win- ter, which, as children we used to en- joy, but it is quite a contrast to our weather here just now, as we have had .hardly any frost here this winter so. far, and the geraniums, and otlher flowering Plants are giiife fresh and: blooming away in the garden and after our .recent refreshing rains the whole country side is nice and green too. It has made the dry termlers happy for their .gratin' crpps are growing ,S;(1, • ..... . To give you an idea bow our weath-• here with the weather in the East and, 'it seems• just now most of the South- ern States, at least, Where it is "cold: will try to give you a short discriptiont of a short motor trip we took last week. As we live lin the San. Fern - arida,' Valley, a suberb, of Los Angeles, we thought we would like a dray at the sea -side, sic cn a beautiful sunny morn, ing, we headed for the coast. Our' _-road took us„up .throngth.'a law ridge of mountains, and, as we were driv- ing mostly facing the ."sun, all the evergreen trees and shrubs in, the cane, yons and; op the 'mountain sides were - just glistening in the morning sun- light,' and as we wound down out of the hulls, we passed fields and fields, of Poidee:tas, in fun 'bloom (you know" that large reds Christmas flower which we see .so much on Christmas card'e. and decorations): It was a great sight to see the law hills and valleys cover- ed with the brilliant scarlet flowers while around them the green of the wobde, of course the season for Pain -- .b ttes as 'over, but . they: are._ sti1Lin- bloom yet.' By, the way they grow" these flowers for scale at Xmas time.. • Well, from here we passed on and soon arrived at the beach. I,'dlon't. think ,we ever saw the ocean and• sky so blue and clear. Looking out over the glittering waves, on the horizon, we could see several boats and across. the bay' to the •east we could see) the Cities of Sanl.te Monica and Venice,. which •looke5 like dream cities int the distance:- We parked our car on the cliffs 'abbove,"but below us, people were sunning themselves,in the sand. After - speeding about three hours at the. sea- side.,we started back on an. other road through the mountains and,'headed for borne, after having a. grand day of rest. Yours truly, A. R. Oliver"' • Seen in the bounty Papers Badly Lacerated When Struck ev Car Airs. ' Valera Armstrong, of ,town_ while in London, Thursday of last week was kn,o'cked down by an auto- mobile while in the act of boarding a street cam at the .corner of Rich- mond and Dundas, streets. She re- „ ceived a nasty gash in the forehead over the right eYe which required fifteen stitches, to close" A lady • driver was at the wheel of the car" that -struck Mrs. Armstrong and her head came in contact. With the radi- ator. She was taken, to Victoria Hospital where her wound, was dres- sed. The following day she was• able to return. home:—•Exeter Times Advocate. Enlists In Air Force Mr. Robert Norris ,a mechanle at the Ford garage has enlisted with the• Aero Engine dills -fen of the Royal' Canadian Air Force, He was in London Saturday for hismedical ex- amination and is new awaiting or- ders to—report for duty.—Exeter TimeS.Adivocate. -..._.. The Cat Caine Back • After an absence', of seven yearg a cat has retUmned to the home of Mr, Henry—Seem, Exeter North. Seven years ago following the.,dle'atl of Mr, Green's (mother, the oat left the home going to the home of Mr. next door. Following the death of ant), Mrs. Ed. Coem3bes whir lived Mrs. 'Coomber about three weeks ago, the, cat again returned to its) former hemielr•-Exeter Tlimee-Adrvocate,. Honda Seeer'ely Scalded Mess Meaner Jordan:, daughter of Mn, and Mrs, Milton Jordon, numse- 1n}•traln)ing Id Stratford General' i>tfepite,l, do still off date d's1ng,A•ttf an • . (�i (Clentianed any )E'er B); te. c 4