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HomeMy WebLinkAboutThe Huron Expositor, 1933-06-16, Page 6sir �y! e a;t i? 41; 'k'.,�, .. . 257.60 •cheats .1.58.60- 8 08.70 318,509.84 AGT STATEMENT OF KING'S 'AMWAY' ASCOUNTS, 1932. Receipt*. 1, 2e82—,•».lanae in. bade ..S 77•,867.04 1931 county rates , , 5,092413 doentty mates 36,864.17 r ,Oram General Account 2,018.04 3121,886.88 Expenditures. 'Iliiasurferrecd to General A,ocount, ..3 12,950.46 Dobe Lure No. 1 t Knit's Highway) 12,950.46 1(i?tp'a Hi�hw4 Aoot. to Prov4, (Preaauuror, 1331 59,085.76 PDeJbenbure No. X Kim's Highway) 12,950.46 Pmay. 'Proas. tan a,cuount of 1931 ac- count) 31,820.00 Transferred to savings 4ccount.., 37.53 3129.242.67 Old Age Pensions Comiiiittee. Your Old Age Pensions Committee begs to report as follows: During the year the Contmittee has held three meetings and the meetings of the 1932 Conilmtittee in January makes four meetings this year. 'At the January meeting there were received,, New cases; 18; reconsider- ations, 10; 28 in all. At the February meeting i n all 30, and the March and May meetings, 19 and 28, respectively, making in all 105 new applications and retonsidera- tions: In the previous 4 months there were 20, 25, 29 and 27, or a total of 101. The number of applications is 'de- creasing, but the reconsiderations, which are made up mostly of appeals, is increasing. This is no. doubt mainly due to the feet that a consid- erable sealing down has been made in the amounts granted. • Where at first $20 per -month was. granted in the majority of cases, at present $15 par month is considered in the greater number of grants as an ample pen- sion, An attempt is being made by the Committee and by the Depart- ment to further .scale down many of tame considered rather too liberal and which have been •fountl in most eases out of proportion to the real needs. As the tines goes' on irregu- larities have' been discovered. unknown at first, but an attempt is 'being. made to correct then!'. The districts ' assigned the several members `of the Committee for in. vestigating purposes are as follows: J. W. Craigie, chairman, Ashfield, Colborne, Goderich Tp., Goderich Town, Clinton, Dungannon and Bay- field. R. J. Bowman—Turnberry, How - ick, Grey, Win -ghee' and Brussels. B. M, Francis—Usborne, Tucker - smith, 'MeKil•lop, Seaforth, Exeter, Hensall 'and Centralia. W. H. Sweitzer — Stephen,_Hay, Stanley, including 'Credliton, .-Dash- wood, Zurich and Grand Bend, Jasn•es' Leiper — •Hullett, Morris, East Wawanosh, West Waw anosh, Blyth,-and.including Auburn, Londes- boro and Belgrave. The total number of applications in Huron registered to the end of May this year is 1,095. Of these, 909' were granted up to the April report by the central authorities. 'The total number on our pay sheet of those having 'come in from other j, counties is 10, and Huron must be - •came responsible for these after one year's residence. ,Som•e idea of the movement of the risks involved in the pension list can be obtained from the following state - anent of the past 5 months, beginning with December of 'last year, the ap- plications of that month being con- sidered in January of this year. Up to December there' were .883 pensioners registered' Of these 240 had. ceased to he claims and 10 had come in from other counties, making 653 active participants on the roll. 'In January these figures were: 886-262+10, or on the roll 634. In February 907-276+9=1340. In March, 0 -08e -287+2e4629. In April, 909-292-r10-6.27. The increase on the roll in Febru- ary is accounted for by the increase in registrations from 886 to 907.' The county's share paid during these 5 'months was as follows: De- cember. $1,15<i 2.;, January, $1.153.90; February. a1.210.61; March, $1,124.56; April, $1,0a4.23. -For the previous 5 months these amounts were practic- ally doubled as we were paying 20% then and 10a now. All those committed to the House of Refuge and those remaining who are 70 years of age or over, are en- titled to receive the full pension of $240.00 per year. There are at pres- ent 35 receiving such pensions. . The•k.county charges these pension- ers $18 per month for maintenance, giving each the extra 82 so that each pensioner inmate pays the county $216.0.0 per year for maintenance, the county thus gets $192.00 contributed by the Domini,gn and Province for the maintenance of each inmate of pen- 'sionable age, or from the 35 men- tioned we realize an income of $6',- 720.00. Recently the operations• of the Act have been changed to a certain ex- tent by the employment of an inspec- tor front the Central Departrnegt at Toronto, who determines the amount of pension to be granted in each case, so that .any appeals that may be made are considered and decided- by the Cdtemission at Toronto, the local au- thority merely recommend for a pen- sion but the central commission fixes the same on the recomnnen•dation of the Inspector,—,J. W. Craigie, Chair- man. hair- man Children's Shelter Report. Your committee have met once this year, at the Shelter. We have care- fully examined the account and found them eoree'ct and satisfactory. We had the ceilings of two roams paper- ed and some little inside painting done. Four new mlattreslt'e's were furnished as we found they were needed. The Shelter is well managed and the Matron keeps everything in order. At present there are fifteen 'children in the', Shelter, nine boys and...six girls, including two babies. Nine children •are attending public sc'heol. We are •finding it difficult to find foster hones for young children tot at, present but hope as times impro'v'e to be able to place some out.--Wi1- mot Haadlee; Chairm'ate • House of Refuge. 'We have met the number of times per 'bylaw with respect to the House of !:refuge••-I1VIarch and June. ••• We audited the sever.il accounts marl of'deted .paynilents of the game: Match $3,0'3+6.74; June, $3,116.52; to - a6,151.26 for 6 rnonths. The ret cellos 'for above period . froim sale of tifOik. pilgrim, preduae, etc., was p`rWrtii0. 1 ,1!r.; b.ea.4t' The County Rome Cemetery has L .t< ,: seededawn""'" 1ne trees e x d planted around it, ande four corner pines being donated 'by Mr. Isaac Wright. • We ins'peeted all the buildings ant property of the county and found everything in good order. We have replaced the linoleum in the front halt and waiting 'room as it was very bad- ly needed. 'We found the inmates well looked after and apparently contented and causing no inconveniences to the management. There are at present 89 inmates of Which 37 are on the old age pensions list. e ,We recommend the purchase of a fire escape from the Lundy Fence Co. at a cost of $374.00, to be placed at the rear of the County Horne where the hospital wing is situated. This is a real necessity and has also been ordered by the Qovernnient inspector, We feel that the installation of a grain grinder at'a cost not exceeding '35.00 would be an economical mean dere as we estimate we would save $60 to $80 per year and would like council's sanction to purchase same. —Struck out.—Robert. Smith, Chair- man. Agricultural Advisory Committee. We, your Agricultural Advisory Committee, beg to report as follows: Re resolution of the Lani,bton coun- ty council, re fees charged for the use of the different Stock yards in the Dominion, we are in accord with the resolution as we believe these charges are excessive. Re communication from the Pro- vincial Etomologist regarding salary of the Corn Borer Inspector: The in- spector's salary has been -fixed and is below the maximum, allowed by the Department. — L. E. Cardiff, Cha irman. The following are the recommen- dations passed on by the Advisory A,gricultural Council at a meeting held in the Agricultural Office; Clin- ton, on Wednesday, April 12, 1933: 1—The council wish to recommend that the 1934 four-weeks'Short Course in Agricultiire and Ho'isehold. Science be held in the village of Zur- ich during the month of January. 2—,In previous !years Dr. Lionel Stevenson, Provincial Zoologist, has been secured for from 4 fo 6 demon- straeiona of • internal parasites in sheep and swine. The Council are of the opinion- that such demonstrations insight be cancelled for this year and recommend that Dr. Stevenson be se- cured for a series of meetings td be held next fall dealing with bot and warble fly control. 3—Realizing that it is important to 'lav before every farmer in the coun=' ty information in connection -with the cont'%ol of l ots. in ..-horses and warbles - in cattle, the Advisory Council re- commend that a grant of $25 be giv- en •to the Department of Agriculture at Clinton, to cover the cost of plac- ing a circular dealing with, this sub- ject ia the, hands of every farmer in the county. This suds of money will cover the cost of the paper stock and the necessary postage. 4—The Advisory Council are of the opinion, that the work being carried on by the Department with rural boys and girls is very much worth while and reeomnr;end that the usual grant of $200 be passed for the Junior Ex- tension Fund- held in trust by the Agricultural Representative. Report on Mothers? Allowance Matters. 1' The Clerk gave the following re- port of the Mothers' Allowance pay- ments during the past fire months, including December of 1932. . • The payments for these months were as follows:. Month No. on 'Roll Total paid December . 65 81,975.00 January 64 1,945.00 February 63 1.965.00 March • 63 •-•- • 1,935.00' April. 63 1,915.00 Total $9,735.00 One-hailf paid by County. ,Taking the month if December as an example of the variation in the payments made to the several mothers on the pay sheet, -we give the follow- ing: 1 mother recd. per ;nth. $10 $ 10 8 e a it $20 160 2 " a! if <r ZI 20 14 10 4 -6 1 1 u $2'5 "x00 $25 500 " $30 420 33:1 360 $40 160 84 270 $50 50 $55 55 ', if if Paid „ Tota;.. $1,975 by County $987.50 Since the act came into force 13 years ago the total mothers grantedthe allowance has been 175—this be- ing the serial number of the last mother receiving. The difference in the amounts paid as in the cases of February, March and April, which the, number receiv- ing is the same, is due to the fact of readjustments, changes in the num- ber of -children and changes in bene- ficiaries. All allowances and adjustments as noted are 'made by an inspector ap- pointed by the central" authorities, each of whom has charge of a dis- trict sdmietimes erni(bracing counties, cities and towns. . The cause of ceasing,to be claim- ants remains unchanged, viz—death, removal from the county, remarrying, children ;becoming over age or over 16 years, the latter being the most frequent cause. The standard for a claim' to the Mothers' A]lewanee . remains as be- fore, not sufii'cient means, two of her own children residing with her, or an incapacitated huslhand who counts as one child, being a deserted woman for 5 years or. more. A' foster mother has to have the same 'qualnfi'cation as to the number grantof children but no is ginren to a foster rmlother -unless the children ,she takes are orphans or deserted childreh or such as are subject to Children's Aid Society care. tI am pleased and gratified to re- port that the carrying en of the Mothers' Allowance Act in the coun- ty has been very satisfaetery Glaring the past months, due no doubt to the definite limitations in the qualifica- tions as given as the standard in a previous paragraph. There have been several needy cas- es adjusted appar'en'tly very satisfac- torily with very little, if any, friction and the fact that in dealing with Mothers' Allowance matters we are dealing chiefly with or for needy and thelpl•ess children, in no way respons- ible fir their circumstances, is, an in- centive to deal clraritalbly and justly la all .matters relative to the admin. ,a4r.JY:t��t, Traveling Sales;dn.: WasAlmost R>rarrtae Greenville, Miss. -W. A. Ivub r, recently said: "Traveling day d might and eating in cafes and ho- tels had a lot to do with My case I, know, but I was in mighty bad shape bonstrpatiox had practically ruined me. I hook every kind of laxative I ever heard of, but they only aggravated my trouble. When I started taking Sargon and Sargon Soft Mass Pills I just had to •drag myself out of bed and through the day. The treatment not only re- lieved me but I have aotually seined 35 pounds in weight." C. ABERHART istration of the act.—Geo, W. Hol- man. Education Committee. 'We beg to report as follows: Re communication of Huron Coun- ty Branch of the Associated High School Boards of Ontario, we concur with the resolution that has been. passed by this council inviting mem- bers of, that -body to confer with the council at this association. ' Re communication from Lon -don Board of Education with regard to Huron County pure a attending Lon- don schools,; we recommend no action as 'we have, sufficient •ancon rnodatien in the schools of this county for all pupils. Re coml1li'gnieation from the County of Lineoh 'with regard to reduction in secendary school teachers' salaries, we concur with the same. Re eornmunication from Welland County requesting that the Educa- tion Departigilent exercise economy in a:iministering that department, we concur with this resolution. Re commtunication from Frontenac County', recommending that Normal stud, nets be exempt from attendance for 1933, we recommend no action as We' has already been settled • by the Government. Re communication of J. M. Gagne, of Walkerton, asking that Fordwich and Wroxeter' be declared lower school centers, we recommend that this be concurred in. Re request front. 'Department - of Education,' Toronto, we recommend the same be granted.—W. R. Archi- bald, Chairman. The following schedule shows how the grants to High Schools in the County are worked out per the levies made by these schools annually. The grants to adjacent county schools are worked out similarly: Total days at - Name of School tendance for 3 pre- ceding years Wingham High School 89,456 Exeter High School 83,074 Seaforth Collegiate Institute 107,37.4 Clinton Collegiate Institute 106,613 • Goderich 'Collegiate Institute 1374.56 CO.` attend- ance per Total cast Paid by 3 years County 37,908 $17,016.01 $6,553.69 49,403, 13,420.86 7,272.38 56,722 19,262.98 9,574.24 56,772 21,030.26 10,199.17 47,357 27,235.14 •"8;703.17 The attendance is calculated per the past three years, and the cost per day's attendance, not per pupil. To these several amounts is added the following sums to our county high school levies. This shows the amount - each high school town has paid of the Ievies and incidentally, sl iws whateach town has contribut- e t'z the county'rate and this meet be returned or added to the levy tlio y oar following: �t ingham H. S. $ 364.12 Exeter H. Z. • 700.43 See forth C. I. 844.62 Clinton C. I. 746,88 ' Coderich C. I. 1 1,838.58 $4,931.13 Sc. that the total payable each High, School Board imthe county. for 1933 will be as follows• Winghaan 36.553.69+386432 or $7.417.81 Exeter ,7,272.38+ 700.46 tar 7,972.81 Selaiortir 9,574..24+ 844)62 or 10,418.86 Clinton 10,199.17+ 7.46.38 or 10,945.55 Godewiclt, 8.703.1741838.58 or 10,541,75 3412„302.65 84,99403 347,296.78 During the past 5 years these sev- eral schools have_ ,been; paid as fol- lows: In 1929 total paid ' $ 41.583.15 do 1929 total paid . .. 46,105.84 In 1930total paid 46,304.98 In 1931 total paid - 48,131.10 In 1932 total paid '47,869.04 The amounts payable to adpacent County High Schools and Collegiate Institutes for the current year is as follows:' ' Harriston H. S. $ 252.50 Stratford C. I. 41.95 Listowel H. (S. 1,090.24 St. Marys C. I. " 164.32 London C. I. .556.88 Parkhill H. S. (1932) , 525.38 Total to adjacent schools.. $2,632.27 The total to pay for secondary, high school education during this year to county and adjacent county schools •is as, follows: -County High Schools ....$ 47,296.78 Adjacent ;High Schools.....2,632.27 $49,92.9.05 The ,Continuation School levies both for the county and for adjacent coun- ties are not yet all in. ' In 1931 these several schools were paid the -following totals: County continuation , schools $10,536.22 Adjacent county continua- tion sehoelis 2,626:56 Total $13,162.78 R. J. Deachman's Address at' Young ', Liberal Club Banquet (Continued from last -week) a social touch to any gathering! Then there were those gr•eeg�t events, Mr. De'achrean's address is as fol- barn raisings. A navel couhti be writ- lews: ten of' how the captain of the win- ,., As I listened to the all too kindly ning side won the girl, the belle of words of your chairman, I recalled the community, by placing the last to Mand the first political meeting rafter in its place two minutes be - which (attended in the County . of fore the other captain had finished. Huron Then we had paring bees, a business It. was many, many years ago. I of '-paring apples and 'putting them imagine I must have been about 12 on a string, not to 'mention selling years of age .at the time. My father them afterwards for 3' cents a, pound took me to the meeting in the little and ninny other happy events, in - village of Gerrie 'in order that I eluding revival meetings which were might hear the Liberal candidate, always a social attraction and al - Dr. Peter McDonald, who was then though I can give no personal evi- seeking election in what was, at that dence on the matter, I have heard it time, East Huron. Be was -a eery from the oldest inhabitants that in clever speaker, especially on' the their time they had a substitute for tariff, and on this occasion I think what is now known as the "necking he was at his 'best. :Ile was -marshal- party" --but that is history into which ling' his facts in excellent form and we shall not delve. wheeling his word battalions into line when an old Irishman near the front On Economic Life. by the name of Bill., Bennett Inc. re- • - latioi of our present Prime Minis- ' But it is not the social, it is the ter, -by tlie' way) shouted out: "Doc- economic life that I want to touch. tor, what's the deity on pills?" stop- Bach in pre-war clays you were more ping, with one finger upraised, and prosperous, than you are to-day—at in the caustic manner of which* he least you feel that you were. Why Was so capable, Dr. McDonald re- hi this the case? The soil of Huron plied: "36 per cent. Do you want a is as rich and feettileee,s, it ever was. box?" and then went on and finished You have better -machinery and. in his sentence. orrery sense`)irnproved facilities for I aim glad to be back once more in product:on and -marketing. The men Huron County. After all, this, to are just as efficient—so are the wo- m-e is home. I was born on a little niers. What then, is wrong 'with Hur- farm, fifty acres, about three miles on County? What has come over it from the 'village of Gorrie. The north that W2 cease to have the joy end branch of the Maitland River ran exultation in our work which we had through the farm. I think that river in the old days when we felt that ran also like a thread through the this was the richest county in the fabric of my life. I picture it now happiest province under the sun? as it broke its. bonds in the spring 'Man wants a reward for his toil. and flooded into the neighboring Besides, he seeks equality of oppor- fielde, making a picturesque lake, and tunity. He wants to feel that the I remenilber wishing that it could al- cards are not stacked against him. a remain that way. In ,the sum_ He 'must 'believe that if he gives a er I fished and swam in its turbid square day'sveprk, he will get „a- depths—almost two feet of water. I square day's reward. . 1Becese this watched it again in the fall as it condition has existed over certain wound its way among the hills where periods in the past but does not now nature hung those marvelous tapes- exist, he feels' and `'knows that an in - tries of brown and ,•gold. Then came justice has -been done, that some - the winter when the riven was silent tthing has . gone wrong, and so he for a time waiting the rebirth of the registers and rightly registers, an coming spring. emphatic protest against conditions. Life is just like the river: Child- I do not want to discuss this phase hood and youth when we build our 'of the question at length but merely castles in the air. • Maturity, when' to submit the Ipmoof of my conten- we strive through the succeeding tion, d haveladed before you a years to put foundations under them' small chart which reveals verclear- Then autumn, the time of reflection ly the situation, It's not new. It when we wonder if it was worth the has been used (before but truth " is' battle. And I presume the next is eternal. I want you to keep this. winter . when, having warmed our chart and take it Homme 'with you so hands before the fire of life, it sinks that you may explain to any doubt - and we are ready to depart. ing neighbors exactly rwhat has hap - In the Old Days. pened. It's -printed on two sidles. Note the graph on the one side, then the figures on the other. Now what. do both sides relvieal ? Let us look at the graph first. The red line shows the iniovelnent or trend of prices of manufactured products from 1913 to April, 1933, the black line shows the drift of farm; prices. Note how, starting in 1913, the price of manufactured products nifoved Op to 1918. That part of the chart is fore -shortened a bit and it does not reveal exactly what happened in the, years '144, '16, '16 and '17. Prices' "grog ;boss" is one Who carries the stood at the level which, you see in drinks to the workers. They had 1918. Then reeved upward to 1920 whikkey that cost 12% tents a gal- and again downward, throughout the ion, eight gallons for a dollars and course, standing to -day with menu - they carried it around in pails with fa'ctuned products 4.9 -points albo've a tin dipper. That surely would add the level of 191'3 and farm .products I want you to go back with me just for a moment to the Huron- of the olden days. Fear not to make the journey, it will be brief. It would be interesting to consider the social enjoyments of that period though I realize quite clearly ,Hat those who were born in the twentieth century have no idea that we had any sa"dial life in Huron in the old days. I re- member an old friend telling he how in the fifties or sixties he acted as "grog boss" at a logging bee. A 16,8 , s, .s points rbeloai that � . �ev' r �' ---•or pule ting it in terms of 'peseentage, manu- factured products are up 7.5 per Cert. and ,Farm 'produets down 26 •per cent. What a Dollar is Worth. Turn now to the „figures onhe back and you will see more clearly what this means. You will note that in the year 1926 a dailar'a worth of farm produlets beeig'ht a dollar's worth of manufactured products. Go back now to 1913 and yen will tined that it took very little more than a dol'lar's worth of farm pmoduets to buy a dollar's worth of manufactur- ed products. Go from!; that to the other end of the line, and you fiild that in April, 1938., it took almost a dollar and a half's worth of farm products to buy a dollar's worth of manufactured goods. That' is why toe' y, in Huron County, you feel that you are not getting a square deal, that the card's are stacked a- gainst you, that something ought to be done about it. Let me illustrate this '.point more clearly. Supposing I hold in my hand two glasses. We'l'l call them agricultural products. And I hold in the other hand two- glasses which we will say are manufactured goods. In 1926 you could exchange the one for the other, but if you at- tempt to make the same exchange to- day with a manufacturer he will as'k you to give him three glasses in re - burn for the two he +gilvies you. In other words, you' are paying almost fifty per cent. more in terms of goods far the products you buy than you did in 1926 or back in 1913. Outlines Policies. • Now there is the 'basic problem and I propose to -night to lay ,before you as fairly as I can the program of the three 'political parties in the Dominion of Canada. I submit this, that unless their programs have a direct ,bearing. on the problem which I have !suggested, then their ipro- grams are worse than useless, so far as you are concerned. Let me go one,:step further. As the farmer is a basic.'producer, and as the" same situation applies also to other basic -producers, such as the producer of lumber, of fish and certain classes of mineral products,- then this prob- lem which 1 present, to you, ap- plies to all the basic industries of the Dominion.. And unless the basic in- dustries ar6 firmly established, I ask you how the secondary industries of manufacturing ._and commerce and transportation and -exchange can •be prosperous. 'Let me deal first with the program of the or the Co -'operative Commonwealth' Pederati4i'n. The party with the long name and the ambitious progra n-lI say ambitious because I understand it is to be ambitious, al- though not yet very 'clearly defined. Wie owe their suggestions at least the courtesy of an examination. Any- one who pretends .to offer to point out to us a path through chaos de- serves sone consideration. Let us give to the ladies and• gentlemen of the Cesoperative 'Commonwealth the consideration which tly may:_ right- ly deiman•d. About Miss Macphail. You had, ;I understand, a visit some time ago from two of their great champions, 'Miss• ('-Vlacphail and Mr. Irvine. •1VLay I speak with particular kin•dness of Miss Agnes. After' all' she's a dear gal, 'Som'etime•s, it is true, she gets a bit cross With her audiences but .what -can you expect? If you have a remedy which you have made, yourself, a 'home -brewed remedy, which you think will cure ani bedy, and very few want to take it, At will not be Surprising if you feel a bit irritated. I remember one night last winter we were sitting in the house playing a game of bridge and my younger son was upstairs, as I thought, going to bed, and I -heard a window; calash and I rushed upstaina in • -a hurry, I ;wondered what had happened, apd he sat on the side of the bed looking somewhat shamefaced, and 1 said: "What's the matter?" "Well; Dad," he said, "I• threw off one shoe. It hit just on the edge of the window, just a few inches from the glass and I thought I'd like to hit the sane place again and the. boot went through the window!" . • When I came downstairs • I said to my friends, "Every leader in politi- cal life ought to be married." Natur- ally they asked me w'hy and I said it would teaeif thein patience. Teach then; that it is worth while to tell the truth even if the truth is not al- ways accepted and having that faith and knowing that I am right, I am willing to be a great deal more patient than !Mises Ag -nes. There is only one trouble with that dis- tinguished lady. 'In the long and intricately 'connected chain of cause and :effect. 'I think she sometiim;ee gets the two mixed and starts in to treat the effect when she ought to remove the cause. And I greatly fear that in this particular case, she hasefailed to understand the cause. Mr. Irvine Says. "'I' also have a kindly feeling to Mr. Irvine. He is a generous soul. I have known him for a great many years. We baye been on the same platform together, fighting often for the same causer. aMr. Irvine has a particular genius for two things, IHe has a capacity for destructive criti- cism and an almost unlimited capac- ity for recklessness of statement. He ie the type of man who could pull a clock to pieces but never could put it together again so that it would keep time. He is happiest when he is in- dulging in the most violent attacks upon existing institutions. Some- times 1 think his only reason for supporting the new Co-operative Commonwealth is that he may have something fresh, with the dew of the morning on it—so that he may start again to tear it up. 1 re nemiber listening to 'Mar. Irvine one time a few years ago in a public meeting in Calgary. He explained that the deficit of the G.N.R. was 'a hundred and 'fifty -millions and I challenge hint at the rnotmsent and suggested that fifty mullions was nearer the truth when you put in capital charg- es and everything else, Was ' he s'ho'cked at the interr'u1tion?, Not in ` the slightest; he simply looked dean - at mie quietly ands said: "All right, Bob, we'll not, quarrel about it, let's r• s' the d' '1#fere p�ul.+ 'So' here � e . 1 th s ni s who . is OM* to Moneta* o11,r' ecespio n;ie system en definite clear cat lace's and make it run •[tore Sm00410 and leeonomieal'ly' than at runs. to-" day; and yet he was ao careless in is matter of a hundred millions that he was willing to split the difference with me. )Let tme keep fifty and let him beep the other fifty. What do you think of that type of man as the designer of the bridge from -the old eta to the new? Why in making, the designs he would do anything that would happen to donne in his"-nxind! If he were building. a cat -walk the foundations might be laid in .ever- lasting granite, if he expected ex- �n+ess trains to run across it the flouln'de.tio.ns .. - might ' be had Of plastoeies. We need better archi- tects and better designers of the new Jerusalem than we 'find in some of the present leaders of the C. C. F. C.C.F: Program and Plans. Now have here their program as outlined by Mr. Irvine. it is as fol- lows: .• 1. Public instead of ,prilvate owner- ship. 2. ,Co-operation instead o'f compe- tition. . 3. Production for use instead of production for profit. 4. Planned control of our nation- al economy. ' "Let •me leave the first to,,the last !because the first is the most import- ant. The other mean nothing, or at least, at th"e morruent, I am not un- kind in saying that the leaders of the ;C.C.F. do not 'know what they mean. If you ask different members of the organization, they will tell you different things. 'flow far do they propose to carry their "planned 'economly?" Who is going to do the planning? After all, haven;'t we in some measure a planned economy how? -Isn't the planning done by experts in their particular line? Isn't ,it true that these plans often go wrong? ;Robert Burns ie aur author- ity for that. Would the 'planners do any better 'work if they were [made into government civil servants and asked to go ahead and make' the plans for the Dominion? Remember all planning has its definite limitations. Who could have foretold the changes which 'the internal conslbustion engine would give to the world? We plan for development of the St. Lawrence Canals but who can foretell the means of communication ten years from now? Let us have as muph planning as proves profitable to us but in (building for the future I would m'uc'h rather- halve 'tire capacity' to adjust to new .'condition as they take forms and shape than to have linty course charted in advance by archi- tects of the C.C.F. e.. -, For Use. Then we are told' that we ought to have production for use instead of •production for profit:' You've. been producing now for about three years 'without profit. How • do you like it? Wouldn't it be a lot ;better if a bit of profit could be. injected into things again? At the best this plank is just a high 'sounding phrase. There may be a thought 'behind it and when they develop that -thought I would like to came back to .South Huron and speak on it, but at the present time it is •so thinly defined that it is alrn,ost impossible to say anything. rr Co-operation. As for co-operation, no one is op- posing it except some members of the .C.C.F. as I shall presently show. Co-operate all you want to co-oper- ate. I sapid give you every encour- agement/ 'But remember that co-op- eration is a thing of the spirit. You can't bring about co-operation by an act of parliament. You've got to have the spirit and the willingness to co-operate. Besides you must have the capacity to co-operate. Co-oper- ation is not. ,built up over night but over a long period of years and by a good deal more patience in handling the prolbl'ems that ar'i'se than Miss Agnes Maephail or 'LVlr. Irvine are likely to develop. Government Ownership. (Now I come to the one plank in • AWE E *6, 1903. 'NOT CONSTIPAND . FOR, SEVEN WEEKS" Writes . Mrs. Johnson After Using Kellogg's ALL -BRAT Sufferers from constipation will be interested in this unsolicited letter: "Your Am-BR&N surely relieves constipation. I am so glad over the good it has done me that I feel , I must write and tell you of it,, "For lunch I take a banana, a large one. Six tablespoons of Alio in a sauce dish, and dip banana at each bite until all is consumed. I haven't 'been consti- pated now for seven weeks."—Mrs. Louise Johpson, (Address furnished upon request.) CQlsstipatiQn 'often, causes head- aches, eadaches, loss of appetite and energy, sleeplessness. This condition is usually due to lack of "bulk".to ex- ercise the intestines, and vitamin B to further promote regular habits. Kellogg's ALL -BRAN has both, as well as iron for the blood. The "bulls" in ALL -BRAN is much like that in leafy vegetables. With. in the body, it forms a soft mass.. Gently, it clears one -the -Wastes. Try AUeBRAx in place of patent "medicines — often ' `harmful. Two tablespoonfuls daily will overcome most types of constipation. Chronic cases with each meal. If not re- lieved this way, see your doctor. Use as a cereal, or in cooking. Recipes on the red -and -green pack- age. Sold by all grocers. Made by Kellogg in London, Ontario. - • their program which deserves a moment's analysis. They ask that all natural resources and the socially necessary machinery of production, shall .be operated by the people or by: the government, or in their some- what vague statement-f'in the in- terests of the people' and not for the benefit of the few'.". --- Now there is no particular magie in government ownership. Go .back far a moment to the problem which faces you and the charts which I have presented. -If governmient own- ership or socially controlled indus- tries will produce the commodities you desire at, lower prices and give you better service, then it's good. If it does not it is 'bad. There is the acid test. bo you think it is pos- sible over a, large range of industry for the government to select the men to run these industries and for them to produce ''more cheaply for the use of the farmers of this coun- try than, they would under . private ownership? Well, if you can accept that you have a faith that can move mountains and raise up weeping wil- lows into mighty oaks to face the storm. The Ship. !Let us see how government own- ership works. Not far from" the road over which I wank in the morning, in fact just a block away, there is an old passenger ,steamer lying along the bank of the Ottawa: It's rot- ting at its anchor chains. It has long since been out of° use., It was used for pleasure excursions down the Ottawa River many years ago and old inhabitants tell me that many happy nights were spent upifi't it. It's no use to -day and you couldn't get fifty dollars for the old hulk. The capitalists who invested their money in it lost it. But ,if that boat had been built by t(ie government, bonds would halve 'beeri issued against it, -and these bonds would' have been a 'charge upon the people of Canada. According to the present method of doing things we would have to pay interest` upon that defunct boat for a thousand years or possibly for ten thousand years. 'That's government ownership. Rhe capitalist cannot lose on government ownership. He works under the guarantee of the government. (Continued on page 7) 111 wouldn't stay anywhere but at the King Edivath says A PROMINENT TRADE COMMISSIONER "When I'm ip Toronto, that's my hotel. I've travelled pretty well around ti a world, and I ought to know hotel sere ce and comforts. If a person wants just th right amount of attention, quiet luxury an ex- cellent food, he can get it at the ng Edward." - King Edward rates are scaled in keepin with the times—rooms as low in price as $2.50. Yet there is never• a slackening in our conscientious efforts to make your stay with us supremely enjoyable. P. KIRBY HUNT Manager I �1 11;11 rig 65 t, a':rislr ,i.. • • • • 1 r