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HomeMy WebLinkAboutThe Huron Expositor, 1872-12-13, Page 477 - POST TOR. DEC. 13, 1872, NEW ADVER.TISEMENTS. Notice to Debtors—Dr. Vercoe: - • Notice to Debtors—McLean Brothers. Axes—Wm. Robertson & Co. List of Letters -a& Dickson, P, M. Stave Bolts WinteiltL-J. G. Ament. What Next—Wm. Allen. Cantle/it—Ada-al Berry. Regular Meeting—Britannia Lodge. Architecture—Adam Grey. , • Bear—jamert Landesborough: Berkshire Boar—John_ Crits. Estray Heifer-- Thorn es Rourke. Estray Calves --Jahn Foote. Estray Steer—Wm. Evans. Estray Steer—Thomas Brown. 'Estray Steer—John Davis. Estray Steer—George Stevenson, Strayed Heifer --George Kelly. Avon txproitor. FRIDAY, DEC. 13, 1872. naught.. The fact is, that out lab& will nevret be freed1r4mIliistles Un- til all are compelled to do their share towards keeping them .down. If some steps be tot taken to ,thus couipel. people- 6..) keep their lands. clean, the thitstles will become ,wore year by year, until •they -entirely gain e mastery, and rende • the lands it valueless., Is -ow, the• quJesion to be considered is, what ar the best means•to be adcipted to overcorne the evil? - i There is . at the present time on thle Statute . Book ;a law empowering Township Councils to prosecute al. who allow thistles to The Tolls to be abolished. After the lst of January; 1873, the system, of collecting tolls on the County roads in the County of Hu- ron will be a relic of the past. 'As will be seen by our report of the• proceedings of the County Council, which we publish elsewhere, that body at its late session has author- ized the abolition of 'tolls on all the roads belonging to the County. This, it will be generally admitted, is a judicious and proper step. But, to attain this object, two very for- midable obstacles had to be oversome. In the 'frrst place, the gravel read which leads north from the town of Goderich, is the exclusive pre?erty of that corporatibn. The County his never contributed toward its cofistruction or maintenance. The proprietors of• that road, therefore, woeld, not consent to abolish the toils thereon, unless they received from the County an equivalent for so doing. The Council, in order to secure the abolition of the tolls on the roads belonging to the County, *had either to grant this equivalent or d9 an injustice to the people of the portion of theCounty lying along this road, by forcingi them to eon- ttibute towaid the. Maintenance of roads _in other sections of the coun- try from which they 'received no benefit, and. of which free use would be given, while they would be com-: pelted to pay for the use of the road which they travelled, The Council, very wisely and properly, we think, granted to the proprietors of the Northern Gravel road, due compen- sation for the use of the road, and can now abolish the tolls upon all the roads and place every section on an equal footing, thus -doing justice alike to all. The second. obstacle was. that the County roads are so situated as to be of more immediate benefit to some townships than others. This difficulty was over- come by the Council assuming the repairs on the township roads of those townships which the County roads do not so readily serve. In this also, we think the Council act- ed fairly and honorably. Indeed, we cannot see but the whole scheme is one which should meet with the approval of every reasonable person. It is generally admitted that the t611 system is not only a nuisance, but a foolish waste of -public money. This being the case, why should* it be continued? In (loins, away with it, the necessity of maintaining some e 'eiehteen families will be avoid- ed, the roads will be kept in equally good repairs and the burden :of. maintaining them will be no greater. What we formerly paid OU t indirect-. ly in the shape of tolls, we will now have to pay direetly in the way of taxation. Although the present scheme is, in a measure, experimen- tal and effective for one year only, yet we feel satisfied that it will be foundsomuch more advantageous in all respects, that none will desire to return to the old system of main- taining publie 'reads by, toll collec- tions. For this measure, at least, the County Council of 1872 are en- titled to the thanks of the people. grow upon ti is the use of • put into fol -the law is n that 'Towns delicacy in t Against their to compelth NV hick their duce them t tainly fal doubt exist would not all. sides wit are now. ter should h County Co allow them, That body two Thistle ty, whose ch con stan tly and inspect, year, every person who ing with th would rem membersnf of informin cuted a nei to perform and would the evil. the habit of become over the injury o ment of the they might from an. in ble official them for would be v lands thoro ily-as possi the appoin would ent upon the C it .weuld, b jeet to pay $1,500 a y could get ri ing his la the thrift' There .is n 'County ef pind anhtu in end,eavor scout* w share of a • woulct am° his taxes ed, his say thing of th seeing his - pose, woul compensate We sine will speed il As we hay ance is bec er it is le will be too than that can be devi earnest su every perso saying it is were Lein Oartada Thistles. The rapidity with which the lands in this County are becoming over= grown by Canada thistles is a sub- ject which should engage the earn- est attention of all who are interest- ed in the progreps . and advancement of our agricultural interests, and more especially a our Municipal officials It is a lamentable fact, that to such an extent is the growth of this vile weed permitted, that in many places', if a check; be not speed- ily put to it, the lands will becothe utterly worthless. .A correspondent, in another column, gives a very - plain. and lucid description of what hel considers an effective method of "stamping out" and overcoming the nuisance. For his useful suggestion, we are much obliged, and trust that ntmay others, may profit by his ex - pence. But, as our correspon- pondent vely aptly states, it is poor encouragement for one man to spend his time and his energies in endeav- oring to purge his land. Of thistles, when, through the indolence or neg- ligetuoaof a neighbor, there is every prospect of his exertions going for eir lands. But, w -hat uch a law, if it be not . eel One - reason why t enforced is, perhaps, ip Councils feel a king ligal proceedings constituents, in order m to perform a duty wn interests should in - perform. This is cer- e delicacy, but it no , If it did not, we e so much pestered, on Canada thistles as we e think that the meat- . taken in hand by the noil, if , thelaw will and we believe it does. hould appoint one or nspectors for the Coun- ty it wonlcl be to travel through- the County, say once or 'twice each- farm'and have every he found not comPly- law prosecuted. This ve from individuals, or corporations the odium upon and having prase; hbor who had neglected iis .duty" in this respect, esides effectually check those who ,are now in allowing their fields to grown with thistles, to themselves and detri- ✓ neighbols, knew that any day expect a visit ependent and responsi- ho would surely punish heir negligence, they rjr careful -to have their ghlycleared up as speed - le. It may be said that , . went of such officials il . additional /expense unty. We admit that t what farmer would ob- is 'share of $1,000 or ar, if by SO doing; be,, 1 of the danger of ha.v- ds poisoned fhrough ssness of a neighbor. t a good farmer' in the uron, who does not ex - 11y a Much larger tum ng to keep this thistle hin hatinns, than his histle inspector's salary nit to. Thus, although ight,lie slightly increas- ng in labor, to gay no - aggravation sa.ved by a.bor: spent " for, no put' - do much more than for all. rely trust that something t be done in the iloatier. alreedy said th .griev- ming serious. The long - alone, the harder it eck. If a better scheme hich we have proposed ea; we shallgive it our port. We think that will agree with u.s in iigh time _effective' means taken to eradicate the touch it, and put off .the- triable - some duty .to- the:1a4 ' moment. They mays however, pht it off too E long. -There is not a ngin at the Council Board who can h nestly say that the hew office is either a .bene At or a convenience to bis constitu- ents. Why not, then, take. decided action to .have it abolished, and not continue ..dilly-dallying until the time for its abolition has passed' H the office be not abolished tiering the next session of the Legislature, there is. not the slightest doubt but the diviaion will be confirmed, and the County will :have to submit to the inconvenience, and at the same time be saddled with the cost of new office buildings/ and lose the hanclsome.revenue which would ac- crue from the overplus of fees, if the offices were united. . It may be that it will still be time at the Janu- ary Meeting to do what sheuld have been dope at the December meeting. In case this may -be bo, the eleotors •thould take the question into consid- eration during their municiral elec- tions, and instruct their' representa- tives upon the course to pursue. If, in municipalities where politics are likely to disturb the elections, the ratepayers would take into con- sideration, and make a- test of B it ch questions as the abolition or reten- tion of the North Riding Registry office, and eschew politics, they svould fiod.it much more to their ad- vantage in more ways than one. In the mean time, the ratepayers of the different townships more im- mediately interested in the abolition of the office should get ep petitions requesting the Parliamentary rep- resentative for North Huron to in- troduce a bill at the next session of the Local Legislature abolishing the - office and reuniting the County for registration purpeses. If this were done, it would give the representa- tive authority to introduce the meas- ure, and would strengthen his bands in endeavoringto carry it through successfully. Then'if, at the Janu- ary meeting, the County ,Council should be in time, and can be in- duced to supplement these petitions by a resolution to the same effect, so much the better. The people must choose betw_oen, two alterna- tives: Take prompt and decided action to have the ,office abolished during the next session of Parlia- ment, or, incur the immediate ex- penditure necessary for the erection of new office •buildings. These are the two alternatives, and there is no essaping them. 11 111 11 evil. -What thOse mous may be. - we care n t, so long as the end in view is •effe tually accomplished. The ,Glou North R -Contrary the County failed to ta the matter Registry ty Council and the ding Registry Office. to general expectation Conner. at rs lalieseasion e any decided action in of the North Riding ce. True, a resolution requestino. the Warden 1 11 was passea and Clerl. to petition the Govern- ment to gi Registry o had been d effeet. tame resolt cillors the during th tario Peril stated by t ment that ed, and no ed, unless t the intere measure r Knowing t passing a questing t do what th withbut 0. a regolutio representat troduce a troduce a Parliamen ished and z a resoluti prove eff what they fact of the Office busi has become Councillors olish tlie North Riding ce, but the same thing ne twice before, without hen this roarvelously tion was passed by Colin - must have known, that last session of the On- ment, it was distinetly e leader of the Govern - o office would be abolish - County would be reunit- e member representing ted County introduced, a quiring this to be done. is, what was the use of buncomb resolution re - e Warden and Clerk to y had already twice done ail. If they- had passed requesting either of the ves of the County to in - ill at the next session of ill at the next session of Eo have the office abol- e County reunited, .such n would, undoubtedly, dive in accomplishing cern to desire. , But; the matter is, this Registry ess, for various reasons, a delicate question, and are desirous of staving off its serio is consideration as long as possibl They are afraid to V 1 • COUNTY COUNCIL. Tolls Abolished --- Galleries Gravel Road Leased — Township Roads Assume/I—The North Riding Reg - Moir), 011ice Lightly linesdled—Re. poTto of county Officers, Commit- tee!ig, dire-711russels Incorporated. The ,Council met, pursuant to adjourn- ment- rom last meeting, at the Court Rouse Goderich, on the afternoon of Wednesday, Tien 4. Present, the War- den, in the chainMessrs. Armstrong, Dal- ton, Young, Gibbots,,Dettor, Shepperd, Patton, Leckie, McDonald, Brown, Car- rick, Perkins, Gibson, McGuire, Moon, Snell, Hays, Holmes, Scott, Benson, Simpson, Castle, Yearly, Creswell, Walker, 'Willson, Douglas, Willis. Gir- vin, and Gaunt. Minutes of last day of last session read and approved. The Warden briefly addressed the Council upon the business likely to coine before them. TNCORPORATION OF BRUSSELS. Petition from John Stauffer and 112 other( freeholders and househelders, of the Village of Ainleyville, praying to be incorporated under the name of Brussels was read and granted. Moved by Mr. Leckie, seconded by Mr. Holmes, that C. R. Cooper, Esq., be appointed to take the census of the Village of Ainleyville, pursuant to incor- pration, and that the Clerk notify Mr.. Cooper of his appointment — Carried. The Council then adjourned until 10. oclock next day. TniresDAY, Dec. 5, 1872. • The Council met pursuant to adjourn- ment. The Warden in the chair; Min- utes of last meeting were read and ap- proved. . NEWS OF THE WEEK. The Pacific Mail Company's steamer Saciamento, has Struck a reef 200 miles south-east•of San Die- go, and become , complete wreck. She had on board. 150 passengers and 200 tons of -freight. The pas-_ sengers have all been saved. The committee of the . French Assembly to revise the Constitu- tion, detming'and-limiting the func- tions of the Executive, has been' formed, and is engaged in the workl for which it was appointed. In answer to representations that he was unduly leaning toward the sup- port of the Right, Pi esident Thiers repudiated the charge,and declared bis determination to uphold firm and.uhshaken the policy announced in his 'message at the opening of the Session. —A promiueut banker writing to the Monetary Times. from an eastern =city of the Dominion throws out the following hints bearing upon the financial pros- pect: "Between now -and the middle of .Fcbruary we must expect, an increasing demand for money; There is much of the wheat yet to be move& and a large proportion of the -butter.; .As soon As sleighing begins in the.west,*there must be an extension of tliscounts'at an un- usual ttne. The lumberett have paid up well, though- a month later than usual, and as operations‘prothise-to he smaller than last year, a. good cleakof capital will be realized for other pu ties." • —The village of Durhane s granted a $20,000 bonus to .the Clifford and. Dur - halt extension Of the' Wellington, Grey and. Bruce ,Railway. Only. two votes were polled against the by-law. —The 'vote for a bonus to the London,, Huron and &nee Railroad. was submitted to the ratepayers of the village of Luean, on Friday last, and carriedten a vote of fifty to nine. - —The people of the County of Mid- dlesex seem to be tolerably well satisfied with ,the division which was made of their county for registration puarses. At the late cession' of the County Council, a resolution to abolish the new office and reunite the county was defeated by a vote of twenty-six to five. —The ptesperous town. of Brantford seems to have been going ahead a little too fast during the past year. The li- abilities incurred during 1872 .amount to $44,467, while the income for the same period only figures up to $31,975, thus leaving a deficit on the year's transactions .of $12,507. This does not show very economical ,management on the part of the municipal magnates of that town. —The Canadian Freeman has been purchased froin Mr.> Moylan by a Mr. Riddell, of Guelph, and. will be removed by iti new proprietor to= Ottawa, with the view ot establishing it as the lead- ing politico -religious organ of the Roman Catholic body throughout the Dominion. —An auction sale of horses took place at Ottawa OD Friday last. Twelve. ani- mals brought 81,300. One span of heavy dranght was knocked. down at $390, an- other at $2.85 and another at $260. They were good serviceable hones, mostly for general purposes, and were taken at figures fairly representing the value of such stock in this part of the country. PETITIONS AND LETTERS.' The following petition was read andt referred to the School committee: "We, the undersigned ratepayers of Grey, again petition your honorable body, that as our township Council still refuses to redress our grievance, that you will remodel our School:Section from its prese,nt triangular shape to its origin- al form, to enable us to erect a now School house at once, and. avoid the ex- pense of having to erect two, which must inevitably be the case if the section. be allowed remain as it now stands.. Signed by Hugh Stewart and others., The following petition from Mr, John Dickson, Lonciesboro, was read and re- ferred to the Finance committee : In the fall of 1871, Mr. Kenritdy, by order of the County Engineer, requested me to allow him to make a road through my field, while they were repairing bridge upon the gravel road, staaing that the County Council would pay any damages that Might be done. He was allowedto do se, but after the bridge was finished, and travelled upon, they still continued to store timber in My field, and while I was absent left the gate open, so that thereby 1 lost four sheep, and shave not since found them. I believe it to be the duty of the County Council to pay me for the loss, viz., $24. I further pray for some remuneration for the use Of my land which has been covered with titabtr for the last twelve months. I therefore hope that my case may be favorably considered. . The following* letter. from Mr. Cam- paign, jailor. was read and referrecl to the Jail committee: There is an old man by the name of John Gill, who was committed to your jail for two months, for Vagrancy. His sentence expires on the 5th inst., and I may state that he is still in a weak And. helplese • condition, so much so that he is unable to remove from his bed, in feet the old man is dy- ing. I treat you. will see the propriety of having him removerl at once from the jail; as the Inapector of Jails found fault with me fot retaining a person of the tt.me clang on a similar occasion. Circulars from the 'County Council of Carleton, and from the Principle of the Deat and Dumb Institute, were read. and referred:: .to the 4aipe ,cpnunittee. These circulars were of no public im.- porttnce. A petition frem. Mr. Marks, Bayfield, requesting to have one H. T. Morgan maintained at 'the Bliiidt-Intititute, was read. and referred to the Finance com- mittee. . - - - The following letter from - the County Treasurer, with others, was read: I beg to sebmit for your information, corres pondence with- the TtealiiirDepartment of Ontario, regarding the Municipal Loan Fund indebtedness of the County, and statements of the said account from 1st .1anuury. 1867 (the date of the separ- ation of • the Counties of Huron and Bruce) to 1a ly,i4, ehowiog balance to the credit of the sinking fund account at thit date of $180,817 47, -with all in- tetest paid up to that date. . A number of accounts were read and. referred to the Finance committee. A BRIGHT IDEA. Mr.Willsaii, of Tiirnbevrty, gave notice that he wortld' Ito-nicirrow•mote that the County' assume the indebtedness ofthe town of Goderich to the Municipal Loan Furid, ;and also the indebtedness of the different municipalities to the railways throughout the County, and that the toll -gates be abolished. On -the follow- ing day Mr. Willson was unable to ob- tain a seconder to his motion, and the motion accordingly dropped. - curroo Locicour. Moved by Mr. Farran, seconded by Mr. Shepperd, that a grant be made to the municipality of Clinton of $200 in aid of and for the tock -up now completed in. said municipality. The Qouncil than adjegtned te meet at 3 o'clock. ArrEENooN SESSION. • COUDgil met pursuant to adjournment. The -Warden in the chair: COUNTY SURVEYOR'S REPORT. The following report of the County Engineer Wee matt and teffrrect to, the Road: and Bridge committef : ,Td the Warden and. County' Council- lorst--I beg to submit the following re- port on the present state of the Cou ty roads and bridges: The London road hasbeen repaired w gravel, from Francistown to the Mid sex boundary, and from Brucefield Clinton, the intermediate portion having been founctin good condition,' nogrepairs were considered necessary. The bridge over the Sauble Rivet nt Exeter, on the London road, has had a new floor and handrail, and a new set of stringers. The bridge over the Bayfield. river near Clinton has also been repaired in the same way, and both are now good for several years to come. On the Ushorne gravel road several culverts have been repaired. The surface of the road has, however, been in excel- lent order dmingthe whole summer, and. therisfore, no gra.vel, was laid on. In the eusuing spring a little more than the usual quantity will, no doubt, have to be supplied. 'Mr,- Smith, whose farm fronts on this line of, road, has applied for permission te dig or deepen one of the side drains sufficiently to draw the water from a svelte in a field clote taithe road. I can h.owever, do nothing in the matter without instructicufrom your honorable body. The road from Bayfi. 7 eld to Seaforth was repaired in the early part of the sea- son. , The culverts, with one exception, have all been rebuilt within the last two years, and are therefore in the. best pos- sible condition. Some repairs have also been made to the bridge over the Little Ba,yfielcl river it Bannockburn, by put- tino on a hand -rail and new floor. The araebnmidi tosinvtereciniu.tsg ar.sr it ill lv egroyo,but . soon nt hehave bentsobbe From Seaforth to Wroxeter, the road has had a new coat of gravel all through. Three small bridges have been rebuilt, a new floor of liemlook plank, and a pier of cedar timber built to three of the larger bridges, all of which are now in fair condition. I have made no repairs, however, to the abutments of the Ainley- ville bridge.. It would. probablybe as well to rebuild them Nvith atone in the summer of 1873, such as would be suf- ficient for e new bridge wnen it is re- quired. A person named Chambers, hying on this line of road, elaims dam- ages for a horse said to have been injur- ed in a culvert. It appears that a hole hantoken in behind one of the culverts whore -.the vermin had burrowed in the summer, and this- man's horse had, ac- cording to his own statement, its leg broken. If such really' was the case, he will, no doubt, have to be allowed some- thing. 1 have not been able to get any satisfactory evidence on the case, but the man will not be hard to satisfy. The line of road extending from Wing - ham to Clinton was graveled in the fall, eleven culverts repaired and covered, and four bridges, of frame, twenty-five to forty feet span' rebuilt. Two cedar piers were also built to the bridge at Londes- boro. The piers of this bridge stand in a mill pond; and in order to get the foun- dation in, it was necessary, to take down part of the dam. The owner, Mr. Dick- son, refused to do this unless he was paid at the rate of $5 a day for every day the water was off, which .in all will amount to $60. I told him I would lay the matter, before the Council. The bridge on the Bayfield river re- ferred to in my report at the last Council meeting, has been repairecl and the old timber used as far as it was found. ser- viceable, The superstructure has been raised two feet higher, and a new Boor and hand -rail supplied. - The old bridge at Ben Miller's has also been repaired as far as was practicable. The damage done to the masonry of the piers, and one abutment has been mkde good, but the wooden superstructure is so old and bad, that very little repairs could bedone to it. The bridge should certainly be -rebuilt forthwith, as it is barely safe in its present state. The bridge at Zetland, for 1which the County granted. fifty per cent.' of its cost, is finished. The contractor is not paid up. He put in some piers of old. timber in the new bridge, and I could not take the work off his hands. Some new plank has been laid on. the Sattble- bridge, between the counties of 1111TOD and. Larabten. I laave oleo had four of the large bolts fitted. with new serevts, the truss raised, and. a board put up at each end. to prevent furious driving over .the bridge, this much was indispen- sable. A new floor is, however, very much wanted, but I suppose it will first be necessary to consult the Lambton Council. Up to the present' time the Engineer of that Council has taken no trouble whatever with this bridge, never saw the plans before the bridge was 'built, or the work when under con- struction, and as far as I can learn, has never seen the bridge since it was built, and. it is only fair that he should look after the repairs new required.. Suitable stone for building can be had on the river Maitland, at Goderich. Ben Miller's, a Ball's bridge between Hullet and Colborne, at the bridge south of Donnybrook village, where the river crosses the boundary between East- and West Wawano.sht and in several places at or near Ainleyville. There is also stone of a certain kind in the bed of the river four miles down stream from Wing - hem. This stone is not, however, of good quality. There is also a quarry of excellent building fltone in the townehip of Hibbert, quite, near the Huron •Boun- dary, and only about five miles from the London road. Several other lime- stone quarries exist in =the County, but the stone is not fit for building purposes. The cupola on the Court house has .been effectually repaired, its base cover- ed with new material, the flagstaff .re- moved, three ceats of paint laid. On, and the whole thing made waterproof. There was no defect in' -the slated part of the roof,- the leek eomplained of at last meet- ing,,b.eing entirely 'confined to the wooden cupola. All of whieh is respectfully submit- ted. A. BAY, County Engineer. th Le- to Stephen— — 11....1•••••••.f Tuckersmith....... , Turniterryljsborue .... , 568 86 321 Tiff 204 40 339 60 EasttWawanosh— ....... ... 255 00 West Wawa,nosh.. 372 26 Total $7,713 74 CLITITON GRAMMAR SCHOOL. Moved by Mr. Ferran, seconded. by Mr. Snell, that .the grant to Clinton County Grammar School be increased to $300, protriding the municipality of Clin- ton grant alike sum. CENSUS OF BRUSSELS. A retarn of the nensus of the village of Ainleyville, taken hy Mr. Cooper, under the direction of the -uormcil was read, and allowed the .population of that- village - to be 781. Moved by Mr. Leckie, seconded by Mr. Benson, that as the census returns of the proposed village of Brussels, has been received and found satisfactory, the by law for incorporating said village be passed. by the Council—itarried. THE IiIAITLAND BRIDGE. Mimed by Mr. Girvin, seacinded by Mr. Young, that the engineer he instruc- ted to put an extra board on the ratl- ine of the • Maitland bridge to prevent tilt; snow from being blown off. :COU_NTY RATE. Moved ty Mr. Shannon, seconded by Mr. Hays, that the lade for the payment of th.e county rate be extended. to the first day of February next. THE NORTILIRIDING REGISTRY OFFICE. Moved by Mr. Young, seconded by Mr. Gaunt, that the Warden and the Clerk be ilistructed to petition the Government to reunite the ridings for registration purpOses, and at the same 'time to make remuneration to Mr. Hays —Carried. THE TOLLS. Moved by Mr. Leckie, seconded by Mr. Benson, that all the tolls on the County gravel road be abolished for the year 1873. , Mr. Leckie said this motion had now almost become stereotyped, as it had been made -session after session, and the q-uei- tioil of this Goderich northern roatrhad always come in the way. He expected the same would be the case this time. But, notwithstanding this, he deemed it his duty to bfring forward this motion, and he trusted it would carry. He did not think it right that -the whole County should be made :to suffer for the small portion interested in this northern gravel road. But, although be brought m this motion he would be willing to withdraw it if those interested in this northern - road. would propound a scheme whereby the County could do thern justice, and at the same time have the toll gates remov- ed. He thought it high time now that these gates should be removed. Why the County should. pay year after year towards keeping up some eighteen- fam- ilies to collect the money at the toile, siritply for the purpose of paying it back to the County again he could not conteive. In private business we would consider it ruinous folly to employ some eighteen or twenty men to collect our money fromus and then pay it right back into our pockets again, and why shoul& we continue to do it as a County? But foolish as the thing has been in the past, it would be much more unwise to continue it in the future, By the new railways which would short- ly be in operation in the northern part of the Chtuaty, the travel on these roads would be very materially lessened, and the employment of toll -keepers still less required. ,The people living along this northern load might labor under disad- vantage if the tolls were removed froin all the other roads and kept on this one, but he, thought the experiment might be tried for one year, and if it was found. the disadvantage to there would be so gteat as some at present anticipated, he felt con- fident that this Co elicit would do them am- ple justice. It was often used as an argu- ment against abolishing these toll -gates, that thate who used the roads should pay for them. This was certainly a foolieh argument, as the whole amount . carne out of the pockets of the consumer in the'end. If the merchant had to pay -tolls on his goods, and ship the produce he purchased, he just charged SO much Mere on the goods, and paid so much less for the produce. Mr. Detlor, Deputy Reeve of Goderieh, strongly opposed the motion. He thought it would be doing an act of gross injus- tice to the ton of Goderich and the peo- ple living alo to free all the remain with be just to c CLERGY RESERVE FUND. • Moved by Mr. Gibson, seconded. by Mr. Perkins? that the Treneurer be in- structed to request the Government to furnish' him with a statement of the amounts retained of the Clergy Reserve Fund from the municipalities .on the ac- count of the indebtedness of the County to the Municipal Loan Fund, and when furnished with the statement to pay the same over to the municipalities—Re- ferred. to the Finance cominittee. • MAT. CHAMBERS' HORSE. A communication from Mr. H. W. C. Meyer, Minister, of Seaforth, demand- ing payment for Chambers' horse, was referred to the Finance committee. The Council then adjourned to meet. at lff Otero& Ott Fridatt mornint. • FiripaysDee. 6,1872. The Council met pursuant to adjourn- ment. The Minutes of previous meeting :were read and. confirmed. SUPPORT OF POOR. tThe followitig statement of the amounts paid by the respective municipalities for the support of the poor was read. .Ashfield • 894 49 Clinton 203 31 Colborne 126 52 Goderich. Town: 2 216 60 Goderich Township Grey Hay Howick ..... . McKillop. Morris. Seaforth.. Stanley • • • •• 195 25 450-58 155 30 175 98 977 04 378 92 343 99 284 63 50 00 g this northern 'gravel road other roads and allow it to he tolls on. It would net napel these people to pay tolls and at he same time compel them also !to pay their share for keeping in re- pair other County toads which were not tolled, He a,ppealed to the Council not to perpetrate so groes an act of injustice. Mr. Benson, Reeve of Seaforth, al- though seconder of the motion, could. agree with Mr Detlor that there would be a certain amount of, hardship entailed. upon the people Jiving along the road in questiop. Ile, however, seconded the motion more with a view of having the matter discuised, and seeing if some means could oht be devised. 'where -by -the tollscould be abolished, and justice done alike to all. He was firmly convinced that the system of collecting tolls was unprofitable_, and should not be contin- ued, and he had no doubt that, if a com- mittee were appointed who would earn- estly inquire into the matter, some means could be devised - which would re- sult in the abolition of this pnblic nuis- ance, and at the. same time tatisfy all parties. • , Mr. Gibbons, Reeve of Goderieh, de- nounced the motion as ungenerous. The town of Goderich, and. the people living along this northern gravel. road had con- tribUted their full share towards build- ing and maintaining the othet public gravel roads in the county, and had not received the slightest benefit from them. It was proposed now tO free these roads,_ and still make them pay their share of keeping them up, and. in addition to this leave them with this northern road as a burthen upon them. They would have to continue paying tolls on this road—the only road which they had -- and in addition to this would. have to pay their share of maintaining the other roads from which they received no bene- fit, while the people in other sections of the county would be allowed to travel free. He was sure that DO man at the Council Board. would say this would be right or just. He believed that retain- ing the tolls was a losing speculation to the County, but if they wiehed to haye them removed let them go about it like men. Let them buy this northern gravel road, and then equal justice could be done to all sections. This road has never cost the County one farthing. If it had not been built by private speculation the DEC;- R72. -.County would have built it. This be be Inteoeuanille,hy'asetheb t,bneoeutwituildamg *hsvtaaosiititdinl'agvilltbhissyP g b3itliro'l now proposed to render 'tle road Ira less by removing the tolls from tlaiotl roads in the °minty, and thus lel .cthoousneti,I)yo bhuaiidainsgavtryissta-Tewilithtoill za mill -stone around their necks. 1 road had beenconstructedfatless mo , than any of the County roads, and.], yielded as large a revenue, ,yet thei whom it :belongs had offered 4 to , County for half of what it Rost, and i .uounty refused to take it off their hat It was not at all &n -prising that I road had not been a paying speettIati Tlp :liter eai se ennott oaf irnoteP dreisat otah ethCe omunotnyci, vested in its conotroetion, and:whys& this one be expected -to do any . that aItnihret. heGeoruoe. rteshneewrpas,ynr 8 uweTbaylwthaesYse suiLtil gravel road men. They would mil' propose any way out of the diffici themselves nor submit to the proposi of others. 'Th''e only scheme they wt - consent to was fo sell the road.. NI' he believed that for the County to ; the road would be the cheapest an „ end, but some two or three yean al by-law to raise money for that Tot?, had been submitted to the ratepayers they voted it down. Now, how arg to get out of the difficulty' He did think it right 'that the whole 'of County should continue to be sad with this toll -gate nuisance beeau company had built this northern roil a private speculation, and. that spegi tion had turned out unprofitable. 1 weitocontierfonth i3estheseaoeigibtheeentol xilisamesbe Gederith hod risked their money in private speculation and lost it, 1 .. - . -would tell Mt Gibbons, and 080' went with him in this matter th they eontinuedsktovhig this nori road- forward as a barrier to the reii ..Of the tolls, the patience of the would soon become wearied, an -Council would then be compelled to ish the tolls, and allow that road t along as best it could. If the tolls! . abolished oa the -other roads, the d vantage, if any, which. VAS thereby' t; to those intereeted in the Bo era would beeorae more apparent th pie, and they would be more, likg' grantethem justice, but if the pr . course were much longer plumed, I interested in that road would lose a Dr. II-ohnes, Reeve of Morris,. very anxious that the tolls shouli ' removed, at the same time he -I like to see it done with the lull on . consent of all. Ile thought that n . could be devised, whereby. the ..could. be abolished, and no injusti to any section. He strongly at:lois Appointment of a committee to ,eo the matter, end to report such a - at -the next sitting of Council. After considerable further disc by Mr. Farm], of Clinton, and. Q Mr. Leckie withdrew his motto a 'committee composed of li Gibbons, Young, - Holmes, Gree Gir4m, Patton, Leckie, Cresswel Moon, were balloted for te eoqi the matter of the northern grave and to devise some - seheme whe toll gates matthe•abolished witho jury to soy municipality, and ori the same at the next siting Cou33cil. The Coimeil, op.mtion, adiou meet again at 7 -O'clock in the ev EVENING SEWON—PRIDAY. The Council met pursuant to la ment. The Warden in the chair. , A NEEDED IMPROVEMENT. Moved. by Mr. Detlor, sewn Mr. Holmes, that the -County En be instructed to put wires acro Court Room for the purpose of imp the sound.---Cartied., REPORT OErios ov.‘Amirrs The following report of the committee was read and ado. petition of John Dickson fort--reln tion for four sheep lost tluough.th ' of the County,„Ertgineer's tempi°. recommenl that the prayer of,* tion he not granted 111114 tion be made into the matter. = With reference to the petition Marks, George Castle and other's, , and tuition of one Henry F. Mor the Council to provide for mint zammend that the prayer of the thei‘I Boul:d.. 9 fA: slify,r174:iwit: r4a8;uktinfo:da, be granted., and that the sum Amount already Paid, be ref= Mrs. Morgan.. . 1 .$200, to aia 1 erecting a lockup village of Clinton we ,recoramen the animmt asked in MOtiOP be provided the Council of .Clinton bond to the effect that said lock be public property, and used Only purpose of a lockup. Motion of Messrs. Farran and asking a grant of 000 to -Clinton mar School, prolideet the - mu grant alike sum! .-We reeimiink the sum- be granted, and. also like sum be granted to the G 'Granninin=Sehpol, on...the f apt. . With retersetrte t4-. the m n Gibson, for 'tap:int-et-a the mu ties oft hetilionnt of ClergttRese retained by Government, we that se soon as a. statement can tamedt the einoot if ottth ebaellagoramuntedt th, at the re With reference to the letter Meyer,rsiutlic respectinIamt, vb, thoeett.iT Chambers Or -which goeits leg VrOls.--ert on gravel road, your -conmiittee commeud the payment of -the recommend that the County bei:tutems. horiized to settle the ma Mr. Chambers, if he ean doso On jib The committee further repo commending the payment a en counts, ete., whick had been ce by the proper parties." HOWICIZ ASKS FOP. A GRAIN suAnii.00sf-e:31,9yt:oldare.fraPyerkins, seeo Anderson to the Eye and Ear ilVinorrN.vTnGosrihboinspotgoio...f.tlifiaot twhiieskt"Ceixoeuxplieseeniludi This motion was -objected to ground that to grant it woula „at bad precedent, Nearly every at the Council Board threaten hi for r similar ones, as they all . sti have paid out ntoney for a. SitlI pose. The motion was lost ot ons.grant were allowed_ they REPORT OF SPECIAL COMM The report of the Speeial appointed at the previous nttin purpose of devising A scheme