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Decision i'n June?
Reduction ofcounty councildebated
Members of Huron County
Council are considering the
possibility of reducing its mem-
bers from 45 to 29, but it isn't
likely they will come to a decision
until June at the earliest. A
report of the local government
study was tabled until the May
session but council probably
won't be ready to vote on the
matter until the following meet-
ing at the end of June.
It was agreed at the April
session, Thursday, April 29,
to send a letter to all municipal
councils in Huron asking for
opinions concerning the feasibil-
ity of adopting Section 27 (a) of
The Municipal Act which pro-
vides for a reeve for up to 2,000
electors; a reeve and a deputy -
reeve over 2,500 electors; the
reeve with a second vote over
7,500 electors.
What's more, Jim Mair of
Morris Township, hopes that
there will be time for the Huron
County people to express their
opinion on the matter - either by
delegations to councils or by
speaking directly to elected
officials in tjieir municipalities.
In the report of the committee
chaired by Warden Jack Mc-
Cutcheon, it was noted that in
1975, the population in Huron
was 54,671. . Based on that
figure, council has at the present
time a member of council for
each 1,437 people. If Section
27 (a) was adopted, there would
be one member of council for
each 1,885 people.
Presently, there are 56 votes
in council, an average of one vote
for each 976 people, or 2.15
votes per municipality, or 1.24
votes per member. Under the
system proposed, there would
be 30 votes in council, an average
of one vote for each 1,822 people,
or 1.15 votes per municipality,
or 1.03 votes per member.
"Many believe in the principle
of one person, one vote," Warden
McCutcheon said in his report.
"Under our present representa-
tion there are 11 members with
two votes each. At the present
time if Section 27(a) were, adopt-
ed, there would be only one
member of council with two
votes."
The most interesting aspect of
the proposal as far as the majority
of council member was con-
cerned, was the suggestion
that between $25,000 and $30,000
could be saved in one year if
the number of representatives
on council was decreased.
The report noted that based
on the present rates being paid
to council for a full day session,
the present cost of $2,402.18
per session, or an average of
$53.38 per member per session.
Using this average cost per
member, for 29 members the
cost per session would be $1,548-
.02 - or a saving of $854.16 per
session. For ten regular sessions
per year, that would be about
$8500 saved if per diem rates
etc. remained as they are at
present.
For committee meetings,
the cost is $3,001.70 for the nine
standing committees to meet
once each month. That's an
average of $333.52 per commit-
tee.
It has been proposed that
instead of nine committees, six
committees would be sufficient
under the new system if adopted.
For discussion purposes, it was
suggested that health and social
services be amalgamated into
one committee, library and
property into one committee,
and planning and development
into one committee.
At an average cost of $333.52
per committee, the total cost for
six committees to meet once
monthly would be $2,001.12 -
a saving of $1,000 per month.
Another $10,000 could be saved
over a 10 -month period - if costs
remained the same and if commit-
tees met only once monthly.
It is expected that another
$5,000 could be saved in meals
and convention expenses for the
smaller council.
In total, that's $23,500 in
actual savings per annum - a
bare minimum.
"Concern has been expressed
that with fewer committees
the workload may become such
that more meetings would be
necessary or alternately more
authority and responsibility
turned over to non -elected
staff," Warden McCutcheon
said in the report.
Reeve Jack Tinney of Hay
Township, a member of the local
government study committee
said he thought it was significant
that the report noted that a
heavier workload might prevent
members from becoming directly
involved with the administration
of the various departments as
at present, and that more meeting
could mean that certain members
might not be interested in run-
ning for elected office, or because
of being unable to take time off
work, could not attend meetings.
He added that as the study
committee toured some of the
county councils in the province,
they saw nothing better than
the system used in Huron,
although he admitted that
some ideas from other counties
could be utilized in Huron to
advantage.
Although Warden McCutcheon
urged council not to think in
terms of "getting rid of the
deputy -reeves", much discussion
centred around just that. Anson
McKinley, a former warden of
Huron, brought forth the sugges-
tion that perhaps deputy -reeves
should still sit on council, but
not on committees.
"I like 45 members on coun-
cil," Reeve McKinley said.
"We get alot of input that way."
He went on to say, however,
that committee work should be
consolidated. He said he was
disturbed that the administrator
and the warden had to sit in on
every committee meeting. He
said it was during his terns
as warden that secretaries took
down committee minutes instead
of either the clerk or the deputy -
clerk.
McKinley saw the deputy -
reeves as a body of critics whose
duty it would be to question
every committee about their
recommendations. He said that
under the present system, with
every member of council a
member of some committee,
each member had a "vested
interest to see that every commit-
tee report goes through county
council with as little hassle as
possible". He argued that if
the deputy -reeves didn't sit on
any committees, they would be
in an ideal position to question
and prod.
This view was shared by
Reeve John Jewett of Hullett.
He suggested that deputy -reeves
should serve an apprenticeship
on council, and then when they
became reeves they could step
right into committee positions
with experience and know-how.
Bill Morley, deputy -reeve of
Usborne Township, raised a
round of applause from other
deputy -reeves when he told
council he wasn't interested in
serving on county council if
deputy -reeves couldn't parti-
cipate in committee work.
"If we don't have the challenge
of the committee you might as
well forget it," Morley said.
"I won't come up here and fill
the chair and eat your meals
as a critic. It just won't work."
Reeve Elgin Thompson of
Tuckersmith agreed. He said he
wouldn't like council to discrim-
inate against the deputy -reeves.
Reeve Thompson went on to
say that if council wanted to
save money, it could dispense
with the $5 per plate smorgasbord
served on county council days to
council members and their
guests. He said nobody needed
such a heavy meal at lunch
time, and suggested that the
"old way" when councillors went
their own way and bought their
own lunches at the noon break
was best.
"A group of us need to go to
one of the restaurants and sit
around the • table and have a
good discussion," said Reeve
Thompson. "Just as good a
discussion as we have today
when we're all in a large group
in one place."
Warden Jack McCutcheon
disagreed with Reeve Thompson.
He insisted that by keeping
council together, a great deal of
information was passed around
and much public relations work
was accomplished. He said that
in the smaller groups, councillors
didn't get the exchange of ideas
and didn't get to know the
various department heads as
well.
Warden McCutcheon added
that he could support a suggest-
ion to incorporate the cost of
the noon meals into the per diem
paid to councillors, but said he
would not be iii favor of dispens-
ing with the large gathering of
council and guests.
Anson McKinley concurred
with the warden. He said that
in his opinion, the noon recess
with dinner eaten together was
the best thing that had happened
in years.
There was some discussion
on whether or not savings would
actually be realized by cutting
back on the number of county
representatives. Reeve Bill
Elston said that smaller groups
tended to look for higher pay.
He said the 16 -member Board
of Education costs almost as
much as the 45 county council
members, and pointed out as
well that a councillor in the
Hamilton -Wentworth Region
was paid 86500 per annum.
"Where's the saving?" asked
Elston. •
Reeve Gerry Ginn of Goderich
Township said that even when
he was a deputy -reeve he be-
lieved there were too many
members on county council.
But he was concerned that if
the number of elected represent-
atives was fewer, more decision
making would fall to hired or
appointed personnel.
"County elected representa-
Tourist group
plan program
A meeting of the Huron County
Travel Association was held
last week at Hully Gully in Varna.
The meeting was chaired by
President Randy Collins. With
members present from around
the county taking part in the
various discussions on tourism
the meeting proved to be timely
and enlightening.
A committee was formed to
draw up and cost an advertising
program for the '76 tourist
season; a program in which all
tourist and related establish-
ments will be asked to partici-
pate.
Present at the meeting was
Bill Morgan, general manager for
the South Western Ontario Travel
Association, who brought the
membership up to date on its
activities and how the Huron
Association can fit in to the over-
all tourist promotion program;
taking advantage of local and
provincial funds.
Mr. Morgan stated that all
business people and politicians
alike should realize how import-
ant the tourist dollar is to Huron
County. Although direct statis-
tics for Huron are not available
it is estimated that tourism in
Ontario is a 82.6 billion Business.
He also cited some of the
advantages of the local travel
ass'n. ie. co-operative advertis-
ing, updated information, effect-
ive distribution and solving of
mutual problems. All, of these
will not only help us to bring
the tourist here but keep them
here and bring them back again.
tives must keep the power to
make the decisions," Reeve
Ginn said.
Reeve Ginn acknowledged that
a saving of $25-830,000 per
annum was "alot of money in
anybody's pocket," but he wond-
ered if additional savings couldn't
be realized. He said if commit-
tees could be amalgamated,
perhaps it was conceivable then
that instead of two department
heads and their salaries, one
department • head would be
sufficient.
"If we can amalgamate the
committees and the department
heads to look after both services,
that's where the real savings
will come in to the county,"
said Reeve Ginn.
Reeve Ginn spoke about a
decision reached earlier in the
session to have both the devel-
opment officer and the county
planning board director at
public meetings about secondary
plans. He saw this as a "dupli-
cation" of expenses. Instead of
two at one meeting, Reeve Ginn
wondered if development and
planning couldn't be amalgamat-
ed under one department head.
Warden McCutcheon com-
mended council fo'r its open
and rational discussion of the
local government study commit-
tee's report. He reminded
council this was an election
year and since all members
would be seeking re-election or
retiring from the office in the
fall, it was easier to be objective
about the future structure of
government in Huron.
Sinton Hallahan, reeve of
.East Wawanosh summed up the
feeling of the group.
"I think we have the best
system of any in the Dominion
of Canada," said Reeve Halla-
han. "I hope we can keep the
decision making at the grass
roots."
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