Zurich Citizens News, 1964-01-30, Page 6PAGE EIGHT
THURSDAY, JANUARY 30, 1964
County Council Discusses Value of
Nursing Home to Serve Ail of Huron
Goderich -- The need for a
Provincially - approved nursing
home or a "chronic wing" was
so much to the fore last Thurs-
day that the discussions seem
likely to result in a practical
project in one form or another.
"We are deeply concerned for
the future of many a senior
citizen in Huron," said Reeve
Clifford Dunbar, of Grey, pre-
senting the report of Huronview
board. "The Horne is running
practically at capacity, and we
ere not geared to take care of
chronic patients. We are await-
ing instructions as to a meeting
with officials of Welfare and
Health 'departments to study
this problem"
"At no time in the history of
Huronview, since I have been
there," said superintendent Har-
vey Johnston, "have there been
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llrs. Bernard Henderson, of
Kincardine, addressed council
on the subject of a hospital -
approved nursing home. She
conducted one at Kincardine
until about a year sago, and
pointed out that no privately ad-
ministered home could compete
with the per diene cost of $3.75
mentioned by Mr. Johnston.
About half the residents at
Huronview are paying, and Mrs.
Henderson said: "Even if you
had a nursing hone in Gode-
rich, nobody would go there
when the Huronview rate is
$3.75." Mr. Johnston said,
however, that a nursing home
in Goderich, opening with 25
to 30 beds, would be filled, "as
there are so many requiring
nursing home care."
B e f ore Thursday's sitting
closed, the nursing home theme
came in for debate as a possible
centennial project on the county
level. The warden's and per-
sonnel committee had recom-
mended county action without
proposing a project, and after
long discussion council accepted
a notion by Reeve Elgin Thomp-
son, of Tuckersmith, and deputy
reeve John Sutter, of Clinton,
that members take up the mat-
ter at their first local council
meetings and advise the county
clerk whether they plan cen-
tennial projects of their own or
wish to go in with something
at the county level. Chairman
of the warden's and personnel
committee is Reeve Ivan Has-
kins, of Howick.
(At the last meeting of the
board of Alexandra Marine and
General Hospital here, chairman
S. Prevett said that there was
an obvious need for a nursing
home in Goderich. The board
had been asked by provincial
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authorities to reduce the num-
ber of beds for chronic pa-
tients.)
Reeve Donald McKenzie, of
Ashfield, pointed out that there
is to be a meeting in Clinton
soon, when representatives of
the Ontario Hospital Services
Commission will be coming to
this area, and he suggested that
more could be found out about
the nursing home project then.
The Huronview report came
up at the opening of Thursday
afternoon's sitting, and chair-
man Dunbar said "our problems
continue to grow as our resi-
dent total begins to get beyond
capacity. As regards chronic
patients, we are not equipped
to take care of them, but when
there is no place else we have
to take thein."
Superintendent Johnston re-
ported 204 residents, 86 male
and 118 female, with a bed ca-
pacity of 209. The number at
Huronview had almost doubled
since September, 1860, when
there were 105. Costs had
greatly increased, from $25,700
in 1944 for home and farm, to
$280,500 last year for the home
alone. In the same period,
seven employees had grown to
88, full-time and part -tine. Per
diem lost had risen from $2.50
in 1955 to $3.57 last year, but
with growing cost of food, sup-
plies and salaries this was not
too bad.
Mrs. Henderson was invited
by Warden Jewell to address
council at this point.
"I talked to Mr. Walzak at the
hospital," she said, "and I have
heard Mr. Johnston's report and
looked into real estate prices
and types of homes, and after
hearing that Huronview per
diem of $3.75 I would say there
is the reason you haven't a
nursing home. I understand
you have been trying to get a
hospital -approved home, and if
you had that no doubt it would
be easier, at the rate the Hos-
pital Commission pays. I owned
a hospital -approved n u r sing
home until a year ago, and
thought I wanted a rest, but
when I found you did not have
a nursing home here I thought
r would look into it.
"You do need one badly.
However, a private institution
cannot compete at $3.75 a day,
and besides that, you have
about 50% self -paying residents
at Huronview."
Warden Jewell: "Accommoda-
tion there is running out."
Mrs. Henderson: "You would
have to work out something so
that private patients could not
go to Huronview for that. Does
anyone know why a nursing
'hone has not opened up since
the one on North street closed?"
Mr. Johnston: "I believe there
are only three beds in Huron
nursing homes that are not
filled."
Mrs. Henderson: "You would
have to have $5 or $6 a day if
you ran a proper nursing home.
Do you think you would get
enough private patients to come
in?"
Mr. Hanly (deputy clerk -treas-
urer): "I think so."
Mrs. Henderson: "With the
type of patients referred to (by
Reeve Dunbar) you would have
to have a registered nurse and
possibly a registered nursing
assistant.
Mr. Hanly: "We may have
one patient in Huronview classi-
fied as a chronic patient. It is
border -line cases that are the
real problem."
Mrs. Henderson: "Patients of
definitely custodial type do not
need as much professional
care." To Reeve Calvin Kreuter
of Brussels she said: "There are
40 or 50 approved nursing
homes in Ontario. We have
them in Bruce. They pay $6.50
a clay for the patients they ap-
prove, and that includes drugs.
If run properly, it can be a
profitable venture, so there is
no reason why somebody should
not go into it."
Deputy reeve Dalton, Sea -
forth: "The Farmers' Union in
Seaforth tried to get an ap-
proved nursing hone for one of
our homes in Seaforth, and the
answer was that there was
greater need in other localities."
The subject came up from an.
other angle when the warden's
and personnel recommended, in
connection with a Department
of 1Vlunicipal Affairs communi-
cation, that a centennial project
for 1967 "be considered on a
county basis". With Reeve Rob-
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council took the report clause
by clause,
Reeve Glenn Fisher of Ex-
eter, Reeve Frank Walkom and
Reeve J. R. Adair of Wingham,
indicated- that these urban
municipalities h a d tentative
plans for projects of their own.
Goderich council hoped to do
something in the way of a
building at the new beach under
development.
Reeve Thompson, Tucker -
smith: "I feel strongly that we
need a chronic home in this
county some w place, and we
would be glad to throw in our
share if the county wanted to
do something like that."
Support for this idea cane
from Reeve Snell, Hast Wa-
wanosh; Reeve Webb, Stephen;
Reeve Corbett, of Hay, end
Reeve Smith, Turnberry.
Clerk -treasurer Berry ques-
tioned if the necessary informa-
tion could be obtained by Au-
gust, There would have to be
a definite decision at the March
session.
Reeve Webb: "If there are
any number of municipalities
wishing to withdraw, it would
be foolish for the remainder to
attempt to do anything. It has
to be reasonably unanimous."
Reeve Thompson: "I would
like to put in a very strong ef-
fort to get together and do
something for a chronic wing."
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