The Wingham Advance-Times, 1984-04-11, Page 50 Win
p
eek' Township; Council
lg Inrhitted to membership .
in,thereeorganized Winghain
Area Board and plans to
locate a satellite Rice station
infheTownshipof Howick.
That la what Reeve Jack
Stafford told ratepayers; at a
spp. eciai meeting held in the
Howick Community Centre
on March g8. The meeting
was called for the purpose of
informing Howick residents
about `fire protection as it
now exists in the township
and .14110. improve tint
protection.:-
Qutlining steps already
taken to improve the
township' -s, position as a
Member of. the Wingham
area and answering
ratepayers' questions
besides, • Reeve Stafford
were: Howick Coup, Gordon
Kaster who along with Reeve
Stafford represents the
township on the Wingham
Fire Area Board, Turnberry
Deputy Reeve Doug For -
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fire board; Wingham Eire
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theFire Marshal5s ffflce,
Approximately 00
ratepayers attended the
meeting which lasted nearly
four hours. After listening to
the platform speakers they
had a barrage of questions
dealing with the kind of fire
coverage they can expect, to
the cost of that coverage, the
location of the proposed new
satellite station, the
volunteer fire fighters
needed for the new station
and possible alternatives.
By the time the meeting
ended ratepayers were in-
formed:
There will be no plebiscite
held on the question of a
satellite station for Howick
— that decision will be made
by Howick council;
A new satellite station will
probably be located in the
Village of Gorrie;
The cost of building a new
fire hall for the area in
Wingham, together with
building the new satellite
hall in Howick could end up
increasing the municipal fife
protection mill rate from 15
mills to 35 mills in a one-year
shot; thereafter the im-
proved fire protection could
cost township ratepayers
approximately $10,000 per
year more than they are
presently paying.
History
Besides Howick and the
Town of Wingham`, the
Wingham Fire Area "Board
includes the municipalities
of the Township of Turn -
berry, The Township of
Morris and the Township of
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Wet the new agreement,
based eu total assessments..,
and h9'st lar;piroper>a•Y
.located. from the fire hall
(property within 24 miles is
•cons dere Art have 100 per
cent coverage and all
remaining . property is
considered to have 75 per
cent protection) . municip-
alities will support the
Wingham Fire Area . as
follows: the - Town of
Wingham 36.2 per cent; the
Township of Howick, 29.6 per
cent; Turnberry Township,
17.8 per cent; Township of
Morris, 8.7 per cent; `Town-
ship of East Wawanosh, 7.7
per cent.
Under the new aggree-
ment the participating
municipalities will also have
equity amounting to the
same percentages in. the new
Wingham fire hall and in any
new equipment purchased.
Existing equipment is
owned on the basis of per-
centages set under the 1950
agreement. Under that
agreement the member
municipalities outside the
Town of Wingham had no
equity in the system even
though they paid a per-
centage of costs as follows:
Morris and East Wawanosh
Township, 18 per cent each;
Turnberry Township, 23 per
cent; Howick Township, 17
per cent:
Wingham's percentage of
costs under the old
agreement was 24 per cent.
"Nobody seems to know
how these figures .were
arrived at," said Reeve
Stafford.
When it was determined
that a new fire hall was
needed in .Wingham,
members of the•
fire area
board took a dim view of
paying a portion of the cost
without having any equity in
the building. It was then
members decided to come up
with a new financial
arrangement.
Under the 1950 agreement,
after being a party to the
agreement for 10 years
municipalities could with-
draw after serving 30 days
notice, but 'received no
equity. In April, 1971, that
agreement was amended tment and therhad the kind of fire de ar
Clifford Fire . �A fire
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notice for .to:, withs#44 d.t gain -,the most potentially disastrous
t emir o1 a' t 1a' -e . -fire; said Mr. Sunstrum, the
with the towni3hp mei'b� ;,;,-,_ �' �. '.• Province of Ontario in 1952
still having . no equity. Now, . thepoorest o r - tion.
with equity, withdrawal will Asked by 'aratepayer passed regulations to
require not less than one full living near • Clifford if the standardize fire fighting
budget year. township would continue to equipment and to allow fire
Under the new agreement, purchase protection from departments to assist one
the Township of Howick will Clifford for residents in that another under mutual aid
pay the total cost and fully area, Reeve Stafford said : agreements. If a municipal -
own its satellite station and that is council's intention. ity has its own fire depart
will also pay its fire area "We've had a good ment, then mutual aid is
share (29.6 per cent) of the working relationship with given on a no -pay basis. If
cost of the new fire hall to be Clifford and we want to
built in Wingham' Cost of the maintain that," Reeve
Howick satellite station has Stafford said. He added the
been estimated at $150,000, to township might also continue
be debentured over a 10 -year to purchase some protection
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muniepal shed
There pare no grants: to 0uild
afire hall, he e9l0.1ed, but
the township might qualify
for an Ontario Neighborhood
Improvement Program
(ONIP) grant for a new
township shed.
Colin. Faster. said Count.
Alex Graham • is assisting
him in looking for a. site.
While there was some
-discussion about locating the
proposed • station on the
Howick community Centre
grounds, or' in Fordwich,
Coun. Kaster said he
believes •'it -should be in
Gorrie, pointing out the
township road, equipment is
also located in Gorrie which
could be important if a fire
call came during a blizzard.
Mr. Sunstrum also spoke
in favor of Gorrie, noting it
was important to have the
station located close to the
largest source of manpower.
When Reeve Stafford called
for a vote of those who had
put their names in for a
volunteer fire fighter force,
13 indicated they would
prefer the station be in
Gorrie, and six voted for
Fordwich.
Better Protection
Along with a satellite
station, the Township of
Howick would get one of the
pumper trucks now housed
in Wingham which would be
used as a first response
vehicle in Howick.
"We are trying to provide
Howick with the maximum
protection at the lowest price
it can be done at," said board
chairman, Doug Fortune.
Under the proposed
satellite set-up, Reeve
Stafford said, "No one within
Howick will have less
protection than they have
now and 80 per cent will have
better protection than that
existing now.".
Under "the • .present
arrangelnefta- sof belonging
to the Wingiltam Fire Area
Board and'bilying protection
for "various areas from the
Listowel Fire Department,
the Harristim' Fire :Depar-
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DISCUSS FIRE STATION—A public meeting was held
recently in Howick Community Centre to discuss the
possibility of setting up a satellite fire station to better
serve the township. Participating in the meeting were,
from left: Howick Coun. Gordon Kaster, a represen-
tative on the Wingham and District Fire Area Board,
proximately $38,000. Reeve
Stafford said in future with
the new satellite station in
Howick in operation, the cost
could be $45,000 per year.
He stressed the fact that
while Howick is committed
to paying 29.6 per cent of the
cost of building the new
Wing ►aan fire hall as well as
100 per cent of the Howick
satellite station, Howick will
own the satellite station
outright.
"And the cost of operating
that station year in and year
out will be spread over the
entire board — the same as
the cost of operating the
Wingham station is now."
"We're really not talking
two fire departments here,"
said Mr. Sunstrum, "we're
talking one department with
two stations.
Mr. Sunstrum added, "It's
not like you are getting a
second hand department.
Howick will act on a first
response basis, backed up by
Wingham. If the fire is too
big once Wingham is there,
then mutual aid ' will be
called into play."
Realizing no community
however, a municipality has
no department but instead
purchases all its protection
from neighboring fire
departments, then that
to their council," said
Turnberry Deputy Reeve
Fortune. "If council says
there is no way we're paying
that much, well to that ex-
tent no one is committed."
"If the cost is prohibitive
we've got to be answerable
to the taxpayers," Coun.
Kaster said. "We have to
bring the board's proposals
back to council and if council
overturns it, well two people
aren't going to build it
(satellite station) op their
own."
Wray Wilson of Fordwich
wanted to know how much
the cost of the proposals
would add to a residential
tax bill:
Using Deputy . Reeve
Gerald D'Arcey's house in
Fordwich as an example,
Reeve Stafford said taxes for
municipal purposes would
cost Deputy Reeve D'Arcey
$145.24: The cost of fire,
protection, without the
Wingham or the. proposed
Howick fire stations, would
bring that amount up to $200.
The cost of the fire halls
(considering Howick's
portion for the Winghafn hall
at $80,000 and the first year
_of_the .10-year._debenture for
period, and the cost of the from the Listowel Fire municipality would have to _
Wingham fire hall is Department, but that the Pay the cost of mutual aid
which Howick's portion greatly reQuestion Costs
would be $80,000. boring fire departments. Ratepayer Ron McClem-
"Those are outside Last year the township ent of Fordwich wonder -
figures," Reeve Stafford spent a total of $25,247 on fire ed if the township coun-
said, "we're hoping it will be protection. Howick's present cit is ready to commit
a lot less than that." agreement with the Clifford Howick to the new fire area
When a ratepayerasked if department costs the board agreement and the
the area fire board is really township $7,500. - The satellite station, ``at any
contemplating spending a Harriston Fire Department cost"?
quarter of a million dollars charges Howick $8,000 per "As a council, we're
on land and a building for a year and the Listowel committed," said Reeve
fire hall in Wingham, Reeve department charges $4141. Stafford. "We agree in
Stafford responded, "No Under the new Wingham principle, let's put it that
damn way." Fire Area Board agreement, way, but the final figures are
However, he'added the with the portion for Howick notavailable;
land in Wingham will cost increased from 17 per cent to , "The board has two
$60 000. 29:6 per cent, fire protection representatives from each
As for the proposed- 'is expected to cost ap council and .are _answerable,
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Turnberry Deputy Reeve Doug Fortune, chairman of the
Wingham Fire Area Board; Howick Reeve Jack Staf-
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Gerry Sunstrum of the Fire Marshall's Office. (Staff
Photo)
the Howick satellite station
estimated to cost a total of
$150,000) would bring the
municipal portion to a total
of $273.61.
During the meeting Reeve
Stafford also outlined the
pay volunteer fire fighters
would receive and en-
couraged residents to apply
for the position. "We would
like to have volunteers
throughout the township."
Asked when council
planned to have the satellite
station in operation, Reeve
Staf ford replied.
"I would hope by the end of
the year to see this . thing
rolling on its own." •
Asked if the township
shouldn't have a tanker
truck as well as a pumper
truck located at the satellite
station for additional water
• supply, Reeve Stafford said
the matter had been
discussed and he felt some of
the township's service clubs,
such as the Optimists or the
Lions, might take on the
extra truck as a project.
The training of the
• volunteer fire fighters, said
Reeve Stafford, would be
done under the direction of
Wingham. Fire Chief Dave
Crothers.
Fire Chief Crothers
delivered a no-nonsense
address on the subject.
"If you're going to do it
(volunteer service), you'd
better do it because you're
dedicated, or you're no damn
good to me," he said.
"You've got to be ready to go
through hell ... You might
be seared to do it, but by God
you'll get in there and fight
it. . If you work for me,
you've got to be ready to lay
'your life on the line, but I
won't ask you to do anything
I won't do myself." -
Fire Chief Crothers has
been on the department 44
years and has one more year
to go until retirement.
Members of the volunteer
department will be paid $20
for the first hour of service,
$10 for each hour or part -
hour thereafter; $10 per call
answered, • $30 per week for
telephone answering ser-
vice, $7.50 per hour for
maintenance work on
equipment, $7.50 per hour
per meeting attended and $15
per hour per training
session.' Fire fighters will
have full insurance coverage
while on the job. •
Converting shed to
hall may be the solution
111
GORRIE — Howick
Township Council discussed
a proposal to use the existing
township shed as a fire hall -
for the planned Howick
Township satellite fire
station, at the April 3
meeting of council.
The proposed plan calls for
the building of a new six -bay
township shed. Ap-
proximately 62 per cent of
the funding for the shed
would be provided by the
Ministry of Transportation
and Communications
(MTC), thus the MTC must
approve any prospective site
for the new shed.
Road Superintendent
Glenn Underwood said the
Township
changes
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company
GORRIE — Howick
Township Council awarded
the township's insurance
policy to Ontario Municipal
Educational Insurance at a
special meeting held April 4.
Besides the OME 1,roposal
the township received only
one other tender, from
Frank Cowan Ltd., which
has insured the township's
property for the last several
years.
Council accepted the OME
tender even though the
premiums are $1,300 higher
than those offered by Frank
Cowan Ltd., which had
dropped its price $2,500 from(
last year, said Township
Clerk -Treasurer Marvin
Bosetti.
The OME proposal offered
"better coverage", said the
clerk, and also allows the
township to add equipment
'or new buildings to the policy
without paying any ad-
ditional premiums.
This is an important
consideration since Howick
Council is considering the
construction of a new
township shed and a new fire
hall before the end of the
year.
MTC requires at least a
three -acre site for the
proposed shed.
The present township shed
is owned jointly by the
township and the MTC and
the township would have to
buy out the MTC share
before they could use the
building for a fire hall.
Using approximate
figures, council estimated
they might be able to build
the new shed and convert the
old shed to a fire hall for
roughly $30,000 more than it
would cost to build thefire
hall alone.
It was suggested that part
of the money to build the
shed could be transferred
from money already
allocated for the township
roads budget for the current
fiscal year.
This transfer would mean
delaying for at least a year
most zif the-- proposed
projects for road . im
provements within the,
township, possibly scrapping
the replacement of a
township bridge and paving
of roads within the villages.
Deputy Reeve Gerald
D'Arcey cautioned council
against, over -extending it-
self.
"If you get too many irons
in the fire, someone is going
to get burned," said the
deputy reeve.
"If we get the fire hall
finished and a new six -bay
shed built for around $27,000
difference (compared to just
building the fire hall) how
can anyone complain about
that?" countered Reeve
John Stafford,
e(;ouncit deferred any
decision on the proposal until
after the fire marshal has a
chance to examine the shed
and comment on its
suitability as a fire hall.
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