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HomeMy WebLinkAboutThe Wingham Advance-Times, 1984-07-04, Page 2Page 2 --The Wingham Advance -Times, July 4, 1984 Interview: the Rt. By Marion 1. Duke "Co}nein." The greeting is called through the open doorway of Room 348 of Stratford's Victorian Inn Motor Hotel. The Rt. Hon. Joe Clark turns quickly from the - speech notes he's been perusing. He's in shirrt- sleeves and without a jacket looks• thinner, more physically fit, than he ap- pears in most photographs. The hand ° offered in greeting - is surprisingly small and soft, but the handshake is definite. Following the brief in- troduction bythis aide, Bill Chambers, two chairs are pulled forward. The pleasantries are brief. "I, understand you in- terviewed Maureen when she was in Listowel last year," Joe Clark says, recalling a visit to the area made by his wife, Maureen McTeer, in April, 1983, no publicize her book, "Residences". Then it's down to the business of the interview — an interview arranged after Mr. Clark's arrival which he has graciously squeezed between a dinner speech in the Town of Listowel and a guest appearance at the Perth PC candidate con- vention in the City of Stratford. If the interview is an imposition on Joe Clark's. limited time, however — and it must be — the man makes no indication that henecon- siders it so. Right up to the minute he gets the call that he is to head for the Stratford Coli- seum where the nomination for a candidate is being held, Joe Clark answers questions on his recent trip to China, on whelming impressions. - "First of nl1is the tremendous industriousness of the people and second is the impression..I received of how they appear to be trying to change." Joe Clark says there is no doubt that in trying to change, China is looking to the west. Besides visiting the large cities of Peking, Shanghai, Canton and the old capitol of Xi'an,vloe Clark said he had the opportunity of seeing the agricultural areas. He was amazed, he said, to learn that Chinese farmers are allowed to sell any surplus produce they might have on "open, or Ire , markets", a practice that is free enterprise rather than Communistic. In some cases, he said, up to .40 per cent of what . is produced is sold by the in- dividual. When in comes to China's efforts to change, in looking to the West, "They consider us easier to deal with than ...," here Joe Clark pauses, considering his words with parliamentary reform, and on what he considers to be the sad state of affairs between Ottawa and the provincial governments. , He also manages to get in a few less than complimentary statements about the new federal Liberal leader, John Turner. CHINA The Clark trip t� China, he says,, was in response to an. invitation extended to him personally by Prime Minister Zhao of China when he was prime minister in 1979. "It was something I wanted to do. I very much wanted to go there, to see first-hand the Chinese way of life and to be exposed to that culture and society." . He had, he said, travelled extensively in Europe, had been to Africa, to India and to Japan. His busy schedule following -his tenure as prime minister delayed the trip to China. "I personally felt the time leading up to the Liberal leadership campaign would be a good"time to go," he said with just a trace of humor. Being a dedicated parliamentarian, Joe Clark knew that not only wouldthe nation's interest be focused on the Liberal leadership race, but that business in the House of Commons would not proceed as usual. After spending 13 days in China, Joe Clark says he has come away with two over - "Let me put it this way, because of the fact that we are not a super power, puts us in a favorable position." At the same time, he says, "We can't rest on our laurels, we can't stop pushing ... the Japanese are in there and so are the West Germans." Canada, he says, also enjoys a favored position in China because of Canadian wheat sales, "and because we've been unambivalent about our position regarding Taiwan. The best opportunity for Canadian investment in China, he said, lis in high technology. "For example, right now they are considering hydro electric power and they are looking to Canada for in- vestment and : expertise in this area." An indication of China's high opinion of Canada, Joe Clark said, is the fact that the biggest trade fair ever held by China outside its own country was held . in Edmonton. However, when it comes to government's role regarding increased trade with China, "It can only -be one of providing encouragement and ensuring entry. It is up to the private sector to take advantage of the position we now enjoy. A BAD START As -a. politician who has exhibited a high interest in the parliamentary system per se; Joe Clark said he is not especially concerned about the fact that not only a party leader, but a prime • minister can be chosen at a leadership convention. "I think there are more important things to change before that ( practice). However, I think it would have been better if 'Turner had been sworn in as prime minister before parliament adjourned." Clark then criticized the new Liberal leader for having his cabinet sworn in in secrecy. .. "We opened it up to the public when I had my on. Joe Clark cabinet sworn in in 1979 and' Prime Minister Trudeau followed our example ... if he (Turner) is pulling down the shroud on a swearing-in ceremony, then one wonders what else he .will pull down the shroud on." Asked then if he didn't accept John Turner's argument that a public swearing-in ceremony would Ile a display of unnecessary grandeur during a time of economic hardship, Joe Clark responded with a resounding "No." "Are you going to shut down the CBC?" he adds caustically. He also criticizes Turner for not adhering to the Liberal's own conflict of interest guidelines in not resigning his many cor- porate directorships im- mediately following his leadership victory. "I'm not suggesting the man is going to use the confidential information to which he is privy, but I do say that his attitude in this regard augurs badly for his government." • shore; it's their livelihood.b' Joe Clark proposes what he terms "five easy steps" to make government more responsive to the people: more' free votes in parliament; more power to committees to conduct their ewn inquiries without having to obtain permission from the minister of the depart- ment involved; the im- plementation a sunset laws; confirmation hearings for 'government appointments to public corporations; and the restoration of "some of the power parliament lost in 1968" to control spending. Enlarging on his latter suggestion, Mr. Clark proposes that in the spring of each year the leader of the opposition be allowed to designate two departments for unlimited scrutiny of expenditures. All of these measures, he says, could be done easily. Only one, the im- plementation of sunset laws, would' require specials' legislation; the others would require only a change in attitude on the part of the REFORM . government. On the subject of PARTY RESPECT parliamentary reform, Joe Upon arriving at the Clark pointed to the Stratford Coliseum where he marathon sitting of the will deliver a speech that is House on June 20 as an at once humorous, example of how the business thoughtful, self-effacing and of parliament can be partisan, Joe Clark is deliberately bogged down. greeted ' with a tumultuous On that date the New standing ovation. Democratic Party called for If there is any disap- a standing vote on 91 pointment left over from his amendments to Bill C-9, an defeat at the Progressive Act to establish the Canadian Conservative leadership in Security Intelligence Ser- Ottawa a year ago, he vice, with the result that the doesn't show it, House did not adjourn until The Rt. Hon. Joe Clark, 5:05 a.m. former prime minister, Asked if the famous bell- former leader of Her ringing episode instigated by Majesty's loyal opposition the Tories a couple of years and the Member of ago wasn't another example Parliament for 'Yellowhead, of how the business of appears to be enjoying life parliament can be stymied, thoroughly. ,Mr. Clark did not admit a If anything, he seems to be Similarity. more popular now among not "On that occasion we had just members of. his own to do something to stop what party, but among all was essentially bad Canadians, than at any time legislation ... we had to do during his long political something to break up that career. Long, that is, for a bill." man in his mid -forties. Commenting upon the . It seems inappropriate to federal government's role attach the title of elder over the past 16 years since statesman to any politician` Pierre. Trudeau became in his mid -forties, yet Joe prime minister Joe; Clark said that besides examples of `power without govern- ment" such as that displayed by the NDP on June 20, the system has been plagued by Q Building bee is underway at Brussels An old-fashioned building it3 bee is in full swing at Brussels this week as the Brussels Mennonite Fellow- ship adds a new auditorium to lis church. Under the direction of builder Sam Shantz, members of the congrega- tion togetherwith supporters from the community and from as far away as Penn- sylvania are hard at work erecting the new structure. Thefellowship started meeting four years ago in the Brussels Library and later purchased a house on the edge of the village which it converted into a meeting - place. Growth of the FORMER PM—The Rt. Hon. Joe Clark, former prime minister of Canada, made guest appearances in the Town of Listowel and the City of Stratford last week. (Photo by Levesque) Special service held at Brussels. BELGRAVE — Services were . cancelled in Trinity Anglican, Knox Presby- terian and Knox United Churches in Belgrave on Sutiday,, July 1, when mem- bers from$3ach church at- tended the Brussels, Morris and Grey Bicentennial Com- munity Church service held in the park at the Brussels Community Centre. Service was conducted'by Rev. Charles Carpentier, minister of Brussels United Church. Short messages were Clark hasabotit'hini theaurat' given by ministers of other of a kind of elder statesman churches: Pastor Douglas of the federal PC Party. Zehr of the Mennonite It's a mantle he appears to Fellowship, "The Singing Church"; Rev. Charles Swan wear with ease.. attempts by provincial. • a governments to encroach IILirsin upon the powers of the central government and vice - versa. • for research • Does Joe Clarkvern eta raise funds strong central government? •"Oh very much so," he states emphatically but adds " Nursing Home Week at disorder which destroys.vital Nursing Home Association there must be a return to the Pinecrest Manor in Lucknow brain cells and is the fourth - has joined forces with the division of powers as they was a big success, with more most common cause of death Alzheimer Society to raise have traditionally . existed than $1,000 raised for among Canada's ,elderly. It funds for greater research. -" between the federal and .. research into the causes and is estimated one family in provincial governments. • treatment of Alzheimer's three will see a parent Joe Clark is .also con- disease. succumb to thidisease. cerned about the feeling of One of the main events Alzheimer's produces alienation now prevalent during the week was the -intellectual disability in among people "in the far -"wheel-a-walk-a-thon" in eight per cent of all in comers of this land = in which 23 residents were dividtl .e'ver 65 years and Newfoundland; in the wheeled by students from affects many in the age 4 to Territories, they feel as the Grade 6.class. at the 65 age group.. It is no a though they have no, art in Lucknow Public School from normal part of the aging all of this. Take Newfound -the nursing home down main process. An estimated . land, of course they have a street to the Super Scoop; 300,000 Canadians are af- right to be concerned about where all were treated to an flitted with the disease and what happens to the off- ice cream cone courtesy of 10,000 will die this year. owner Dianne Hackett. A total of $928 was collected in pledges for this event. On Sunday the Residents' Council held a strawberry social, to which many family members came. The winner of the draw for a wall hanging was Mrs. Emma Bell, a resident of Pinecrest. In all, $1,024 was raised for research into Alzheimer's disease, a devastating of the United Church of Canada, "The. Concerned Church"; Father Stan Solty- zik �'of the Roman Catholic Church, "The Praying Church"; Rev. Tom Duke of the Presbyterian Church, "The Forgiving Church"; Rev. Robin ' Lyons of The Anglican, Church, "The Healing Church". Rev. `John G. Roberts of Knox United Church, Bel - grave conducted the senior choir and Mrs. Margaret Whitmore the Senior. and junior } school choirs., Mrs'+ Joanne :,King, organs$.: ; of, Brussels Presbyterian Church supplied all the music for the choirs and for the hymns. g Home activities c 5 t i t Dr. Lewis Thomas, chancellor of the., Sloan- Ketterling Cancer Centre, has described it as "the worst of alldiseases, not just for what it does to the victim but its devastating effect on familyand friends." - So far no cause or treat- ment is known. However since many nursing home residents are diagnosed with the disease, the Ontario Church Diredo Wingham PentecostarChurch 359 Centre &reef SUN., JULY -8, 1984 10:00, a.m. - Sunday School 1 1:00 a.m. - Morning Worship Service • 7:00 p.m. - Fathily Service WINGHAM UNITED CHURCH 21 7 Minnie St. Sunday, July 8 1100 a.m. - Worship Service Minuster• Rev. J Rea Grant B.A., M Div. Organist. Mr. Hap Swatridge Telephone Church - 357-2961 Manse - 357-1072 rnnasminalMIW • THE SALVATION : �. ARMY Edward St., Wingham Sunday, July 8 9:45 a.m. - Sunday School 1 1 :00 a.m. - Family Worship Service . • 7:00 p.m. - Salvation Meeting Mveryone Welcome onday, July 9 8:00 p.m. - Home League for Ladies St. Paul's Church- (ANGLICAN) hurch- (ANGLICAN) WINGHAM John Street at Centre Street THE ANGLICAN PARISH OF WINGHAM AND BELGRAVE SUNDAY JULY 8 11:00 a.m. - Mattins, 9:00 a.m. - Trinity, Belgrave Anglican diocese elects archdeacon Rev. C. Robert Towns- hend, rector of St. George's Church at Owen Sound' and archdeacon of Saugeen, was chosen suffragan bishop of the Anglican Diocese of I4uron on the seventh' ballot at St. Paul's •Cathedral, London, on Saturday, June 23. Of special interest to the seven Indian reserve parishes in the diocese was the nomination of Rev. Laverne Jacobs, rector of Christ Church, Forest, and St. John's, Kettle Point, since it is believed to be the first time a native Indian priest has been nominated for the office of bishop in Canada. Fr. Jacobs is a member of the Walpole Island Indian Band. Mr. Townshend was congratulated by his father, Bishop William A. Towns- hend, who was consecrated suffragan bishop of Huron in 1955 and retired in 1967. The bishop -elect will have oversight of the St. Clair region which is composed of Essex, Kent and Lambton counties, while Bishop Morse Robinson continues to serve as suffragan, bishop of the northeastern side of the diocese which stretches from Mea£ord to Simcoe. Both suffragans assist Bishop Derwyn Jones who become diocesan on the retirement of Bishop David Ragg earlier this year. 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