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The Goderich Signal-Star, 1977-11-17, Page 20�!a PAGE 20—GODERICH SIGNAL -STAR, THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 17, 1977 Board, teachers talk but...... •,from page 1 of education and a member of the board's negotiating committee, said he felt the fact finder report was "very fair to both sides'. He said he felt there were points in the report that are pertinent to both parties but added that he didn't agree that negotiations have been a dialogue of the deaf. "Sometimes it's hard to get people to listen to something they don't want to hear," he said. Turkheim said the board felt the teachers' demands were "excessive" and that money and working conditions were big factors in the negotiations. He said the school taxes in Huron County were already high enough and that the board had to negotiate with that in mind. He said it would be unfair for the board to agree to higher salaries for teachers and then pass on the ex- pense to municipalities in the county. DECLINING ENROLMENT The working conditions argued in the negotiations involve pupil -teacher ratios (PTR) and jbb redundancy. The board is concerned that declining enrolment in schools will reduce provincial per capita grants to the board. With that in mind the board wants the PTR to be calculated between April and June of 1978 based on the projected enrolment for the following year. Their argument is designed t9 protect the board in the case of declining enrolment. If the pupil teacher ration remains the same and the number of pupils is reduced the next year the board will be able to reduce the number of teachers required. "The board doesn't want to change the PTR," said Turkheim. "We feel it is very fair." The teachers requested a change in the PTR but according to the fact finder have not said why the change is necessary. The teachers want a ratio of 17.2 students per teacher in schools with over 500 students. The board feels that the proposed ration would require the hiring of five new teachers. The teachers also want a ratio of 16 to one in schools of less than 500 students and the board feels that that is unnecessary. Samuels said that Holmesville news by Irene Cudmore Holmesville Public School Please note: Gregory Studios will be at the school on Thursday, and Friday, November 24 and 25 to take individual and class photographs. November 30 will be professional development day for teachers, There will be no school for the pupils as the teachers hold interviews with the parents on this date. WI hold card party The WI of Goderich Township held a card party in the public school on Thursday evening, November 10. There were eight tables of cards and the winners were: ladies' high, Phyllis Cox; ladies' low, Thursa Miller; ' men's high, Frank Thompson; men's low, Bill Norman; lone hands, Frank Thompson. Holiday money -get yours here Whether you need a lot or money or just a little. Victoria and Grey novv has ;t louver interest. easy -to -pay -hack -plan that tills tile needs of most people. You can get money quickly too and you can pay hack any amount, any time. ithout penalty. VICTORIA and vG� GREW Tau5T CONAPA', 5 'CE +809 Reneger A.A. Weatherby 524-7341 Geduld The chairman of the recreation committee, Grant Sterling, presented a Goderich Township Crest to Arie Van Der Ende and Elaine Townshend was present to take photographs of the occasion. Jerry Ginn presented Miss Townshend with a crest and he explained that they are not for sale but may be obtained by donating $2 to the rec committee. The recipients expressed their thanks for the crests and lunch and a social time were enjoyed. Everett Mcllwain won a prize for having the lucky cup. The next card party is scheduled for Thursday, November 24 at 8:15 p.m. Hazel McCreath has the Township crests and anyone interested in obtaining one may contact her at 524-7436. United Church Worship service was held in Holmesville United Church along with Sunday School for the children. Rev.. John Oestreicher and guest minister, Rev. Donald Pletsch of Port Dover con- ducted a question and answer period to inform the congregation of Rev. Plet- sch's work in Dierre Leone,, Africa. He went there as an agricultural representative to help develop methods suited to the soil and climate. While in Africa he was ordained. Rev. Pletsch ,told how the church is growing more quickly in some areas than in others. After the discussion, Rev. Pletsch thanked the congregation for their sup - "port to Missions and Services which in turn supports the Youth Exchange Program that made it possible for him to work in Africa. Following the service, the Sunday school teachers held a short meeting. The UCW extend thanks to all who attended and con- tributed in any way to the success of the annual bazaar and tea. Personals Mr. and Mrs. Elmer Potter returned home last Thursday Beauty and Savings by the Roomful! ,I •,S4 t SpredSatin For a beautiful soft finish. Washable, lasts for years, Easy to apply with brush or roller. Clean up with warm, soapy water. 11 111#111 VALUE PRICED 95 SERVICE DOMINION HARDWARE PER GAL. 34 VICTORIA ST. NORTH OODERICH 524-501 after visiting with their daughter Helen and grand- sons Donald and Robert in London while their son-in-law Ken Ashton was recuperating from eye surgery :in St. Joseph's Hospital. Mr. and Mrs. Bill Norman along with Mr. arid Mrs. Barrie Walter visited with Mr. and Mrs.Kenneth Trewartha on the weekend. Diane Collins and her sister Hazel of Oakville returned home on Saturday from a two-week vacation in Clearwater Beach, Florida. Jo -Anne Collins is a patient in University Hospital, London as a result of a car accident on Friday, November 11. the matter has not been discussed constructively and that neither side has fully explained its argument. INCOME LOW The board is using county economics as a basis for its argument on salary increases. It claims that, the county per capita income is very low compared to surrounding counties and that the industrial composite for Huron was low com- pared to its neighbors. The board argues that the incomes in the county are relevant in the con- sideration of the ability of the taxpayers in the county to pay teachers' salaries. Lane said the teachers' salary proposals have not been considered in the proper fashion by the board. He said that calculations by the board have not 'included all the facts offered by the teachers and that the information provided by the board to the fact finder has been misleading in some cases. Lane said the teachers have kept their proposals in line with the Anti -Inflation Board guidelines knowing that any agreed salary increase is going to have to be approved by the AIB. The fact finder expressed optimism that a mediator can resolve differences between the board and its teachers. He said the arguments for both parties seem to be sound in many cases and usually an avenue is available for both parties that would result in a fair agreement to both. Samuels said the major stumbling block is getting both parties to sit down and listen to one another and he is confident a strong mediator can make that happen. Garbage....... • from page 1 services in Goderich until the end of 1977 for an additional $5,000. The original cost of the 1977 sanitation contract with C & W to ,the municipality was $77,917 and with the additional $5,000 plus the additions of new dwelling units at a rate of $1.15 per month, the total cost for regular garbage pickup in Goderich during 1977 will be $82,917. The cost of the annual spring and fall pickup is an additional $10,000 making the total garbage removal expenditure in Goderich during 1977 $92,917. in 1977, '� tCe pail thaWhen t firm'srequestrequest was for ancontract pincreaseuof seven systems but added This ;sirreet percent annum r extra $5,454 for a total of $83 3 1. It was at unanimously at this the Cartel tender. agreedonjY juncture town council instructed the works and engineering committee to study the entire garbage pickup problem and to recommend the best alternative solution. that the contract was to be let out of to Deb Shewfelt agrged with Haydon that has provided an excellent sery STUDY In the works and engineering repo to show Monday evening, figures were suppliedto the cost of the municipality operating its own garbage collection services. The study showed that if the town rented the necessary sanitation equipment with an option to buy, the total cost to the municipalitytover three years would be $234,296.47 - or $13,632.67 more over three years than the Carter bid. For the town to purchase the equipment at the outset, the cost over three years was even ,higher - an estimated $257,238.05 or $36,574.25 more than the Carter bid for the same period. Councillors Don Wheeler and Stan Profit both expressed their amazement that private en- terprize, could provide the same service for less money than a non-profit organization such as the town. However Councillor Bob Allen said that after reviewing the figures set out by the works and engineering committee in consultation with Deputy clerk Larry McCabe, he feared the estimates were just a little low. Annual rental for equipment to handle the municipal -garbage collection would have cost the town $20,751.48. To purchase the equipment outright would have cost $50,788. Labor was estimated at $15.85 per hour (two and a half persons) or $697.40 per week, $36,264.80 per year. These figures were based on the current rates paid to municipal employees including benefits accorded to all municipal workers., Mileage was estimated at 900 miles per week. At five miles per gallon of gas and an estimated cost of 87 cents per gallon, travelling would cost $156.60 per week or $8,143.20 per annum. It was pointed out in the report from the works and.engineering committee that if the town had rented the equipment, in 1980 the. equipment could have been purchased for $1. However, replacement must also be considered, the report added, at a cost of approximately $34,408.00. Councillor Elsa Haydon expressed her regret Sr. housing • from page 1 charges on g>.p Bennett Streetthe at BayfieldProposed RoadeVey, t' Profit said he disagreed, adding situation should be considered on N VOTE . • • 1 iC A recorded vote was called, were Councillors Stan Profit, goose hi Wheeler, Mayor Deb Shewfelt and p �n Eileen Palmer. The remainder Delhi members - Reeve Bill Cliffort and Cu. Elsa Haydon, Dave Gower and John1 were opposed. Dzus said that the proposal to makeg; contribution of $25,000 to the cost el' acquisition for the senior citizens' ca would be forwarded to the government, three weeks• after submission of.the.p Dzus estimated there should be sourer from the Ministry of Housing. In other business involving the Housing Committee, Deputy -reeve Eileen questioned an item for chartering a Toronto, October 27 to meet with theMiio Housing. She said the six -member del could have travelled to Toronto by carfor less money, even including meals, Jim Searls asked council, during thect question period, what the flight had committee. He was told the cost was was shared by the three municipal involved. Mayor Deb Shewfelt said the groupleha and returned to Goderich at 5 p.m.Hes flight was arranged to save time forbusy who comprised the committee. The ma said he had already driven to Toronto the same week and felt another trip wouldk' too much for him. "That's your problem," observed Palm; this, Mayor Shewfelt observed that Deputy -reeve Palmer becomes mayor,s4 learn how tiring the pressures of officecanic BONUS COUPONS AND FOOD PRICES BONUS OFFER BUY 3 PKGS. OF LIGHT BULBS AT OUR REG. PRICE OF GET FREE 2 KG. BAG WHITE ��GAR NESTLE MINI PUDDINGS PKG. OF 3 SERVINGS 5 OZ. KLEENEX TISSUES 200's THAT SAY IMVflUR E PRODUCE OF ONT. No. 1 GRADE COOKING ONIONS994 2 LB. BAG PRODUCE OF ONT. 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