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Home My WebLink AboutThe Goderich Signal-Star, 1980-03-13, Page 32mow MEI 'UM DE -LZ- tiR M. AI ip PAGE I4A- G'LOAERICH SIGNAL -STAR, THURSDAY, MARCH 13, 1980 nv, aeiteir criticizes comments on deity... ion, Page 12A openly contess out that John." Lord Jesus Christ into So, in other words, John glory of God Father." the Baptist received the Once again, Lord is a revelation, or ex- title. Lord is a title put on planation of the events Jesus Christ as men- soonato come. Jesus gave tioned in the scripture. these to John, who was in Philipia.ns 2:1-11 says: prison, and made a "More than that, when he written record of these, found himself in fashion The actual Greek as a man he humbled translation of Revelation himself . and .became •1:8 says: "I am the Alpha 'obedient as far as`death, and the Omega, is saying yes, death on a . torture Lord, the God, the (one) stake. For this very being and the (one) was reason also God exalted and the (one) coming, the him to a superior position Attnighty:". .._____ kindly -g-h4Th- .the. Lord is translated into name that is above every Jehovah. But why? Lord other name, so that in the and God are titles." For name of Jesus every knee instance, we can call two should bend of those in people Lord as a title and heaven and those on two. people Gods, as 'a earth and those,under the title, But we must ground, and every tongue specify. And the scripture should • openly does. so. - acknowledge that Jesus "I am the Alpha and Christ is Lord to the glory the Omega", "the (one) of God the Father." being and the (one) was Now it is evident that and the (one) corning the Lord is the title of Jesus Almighty." i, this situation, and Lord Lord could only refer to In Revelation 1 :8 is Jehovah who is the Jehovah in that situation. Almighty God, a specific The surrounding scrip - person. To verify that he tures themselves explain is the Almighty, we refer why Lord is translated as to the Hebrew Scriptures, such, in Psalms 83:18: "That ' He then asks: "But why people may know that bend the knee to an you, whose name is angel?" Jehovah, You alone are Mr. Gardiner says if we the Most High over all the openly acknowledge earth." Michael, the archangel, Then Mr. Gardiner as Lord, we then bring refers to Isaiah 45:23 glory to God the Father. (Hebrew Scriptures) He then states that where it states: ",..that according , to what to me (referring to Jehovah's Witnesses Jehovah) every knee will teach, that all angels bow bend down, every tongue before one of their own will swear (verse • 24) and acknowledge him as saying, 'Surely in Lord. Jehovah there are fullMr. Gardiner please righteousness and read verse. 9: "For this strength'," and also very reason also God Romans 14:11, from .the exalted him to , a Kingdom Interlinear SUPER POR Translation of the Greek POSITION..." That Scriptures, "for. it is means God put Jesus in a . written: 'as I live, says higher position, so, how Jehovah,' to me every can all"angels bow before knee'wiil' bend down, and "one of their own"? They every' tongue will make certainly have to open acknowledgment to acknowledge hire as lord God!" He asks: if h'e is higher than they, "acknowledgment of and God Said so!, what?" Mr. Gardiner refers He explains from again to John 1:23 and Ph1iTtpians 2:11 whtc7i s'—ys-`>:he'y matri ky'rl.us: ' says: "And every tongue Jehovah, which is an should' , openly obvious reference to the acknowledge that Jesus Messiah. Christ is Lord (ky'ri.os) In this situation the to the glory of God 'the Jews.. sent Priests. and • ., Father." ,-_----Lvites. to find out who He, then asks a_ good John the Baptist was. He ques.tion: "Why is replied in John 1:23, "He ky'ri.os-Jehovah • at said: 'I am a voice of Revelation 1 :8 and not at . someone,crying out in the this text in Philipians.?" wilderness, 'Make the Once again we must way,of Jehovah straight', analyse the scriptures to just as Isaiah the prophet answer this question. The said." The literal Greek word ky'ri.os is tran- translation says: "I voice slated into Jesus Christ. of (one) crying aloud in Why? The actual Greek the desolate -make you, translation reads: "and straight the way of Lord, every tongue should according as said Isaiah the prophet." Now why is Jehovah put in instead of Jesus, as Mr. Gardiner thinks it should? The "way of Jehovah" in context to Isaia.h's prophecy must be found out first. In Isaiah 9:6-7 it says: "For there has been a child born to us, there has been a son given to us, ` and the princely rule will come to be upon his shoulder. And his name will be called Wonderful Counselor„ Mighty God (Notice - -MMig-hty- : God, . _ .....n.ot- Almighty God), Eternal Father,. Prince of Peace. To the abundance of the princely rule there will be no end, upon the throne of David and 11 p o n kingdom in order to establish it firmly and to establish it by means of justice and by means of richeousness from now on and to time indefinite. The very zeal of Jehovah of armies will do this." Although Jesus is in- volved in Jehovah's purpose and way, it is evident that Lord refers to Jehovah, not Jesus, since it is Jehovah's way, as Isaiah's prophecy indicates. Mr. Gardiner's reference to Romans 10:9 where it says: "...that Jesus is Lord" and' the' actual Greek translation says: "That if ever you should confess the saying, in the mouth of you that Lord Jesus..." is true that Lord Jesus is not . Jehovah. Mr. Gardiner then, states that Jesus is called "ha-Adon' ". This •is incorrect because he misread the footnote concerning the scripture. The footnote says Lord is the same as the Greek ky'ri.os the states where it comes from. Lord comes from the Aleph and Siniatic 'manuscript. This was a uncial Greek of the 5th century,' in codex, while the Armenian is of early 4th or .5th century. This was written in Syriac and Greek codices. If these —Con t anie thing, and bible translation of the early manuscripts down through history was done extremely carefully, since when is there reason to believe that it is wrong, ' when Lord is a title, and grammatically refers to Jesus? These references are followed by a semi- • colon, separating ha- Adon', its references, artd the statement Not Jehovah, from the first. So therefore, while .ha- Adon' refers' to Jehovah, your statement: "If this is,;true, then Romans 10:9 0 D -Solar Energy Systems This LOW COST, SELF-CONTAINED auxiliary HEATER GIVES YOU Safe, Dependable, Fan -Forced Heat from the SUN Regularly �� \ $849,00 g°v: OUR INTRODUCTORY OFFER COME OUT AND SEE A WORKING MODEL at LANGSIDE SUPPLY 392-8118 OR WRITE - For Moro Wood d Solar Information GERATT CONSERVER PRODUCTS, R.R. 5, LUCK NOW, ONTARIO NOG 2H0 NAME ADDRESS PHONE ONLY $775?° OFFER LIMITED TO 8 UNITS ONLY K,nrard' Ambnr ley 86 Fligley Luckrio inIOAS Holyrood 7LANGSIDE SUPPLY Whitechurch should read 'For you... that Jesus is Jehovah God..." is false and IN- CORRECT. The scripture itself (Romans 10:9) points out that God cannot be Jesus and Jehovah. It says: "For if you publicly declare that `word in your mouth' that Jesus is Lord, and exercise faith in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved." It 'is very logical to state that this scripture does not -refer- to Jesus and God as the same. It is logical to say there is two persons, God and Jesus, for how can one raise oneself -from the dead if you are dead. The bib -le- says this of death, in Psalms 146:4: "His spirit goes out, he goes -back to his ground; In that day his thoughts do perish." The bible does not con- tradict itself and therefore, logically, you can say Lhat Jehovah and Jesus are two persons and not one. The bible makes other references to prove this point. One such example of this is John 14:28, the latter part salys:. "..,because the Father is greater than I am." ,Mr. Editor, I felt Mr. Gardiner was incorrect in his letter, which I have shown, and felt the, need to set matters straight, Sincerely, J. L. Weigand. Editor's Note: Beginning with the next issue, any lengthy letters to the editor ',vill he severely edited. 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