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Dear Editor,
This is a letter in response
to C.F. Barney's letter in the
Goderich Signal -Star, titled:
"SOULS DON'T GO TO
HEAVEN".
After a period of complete
silence, Mr. Barney has
conte out of hibernation with
one more Watchtower gem,
quoted verbatum from the
Watchtower.
It seems rather odd that
Mr. Barney would continue
parroting the utterances of
the Watchtower printing
machine in Brooklyn, New
York, and swallow it all 100
percent as gospel truth,
without researching the sub-
ject himself. But that is
"mission impossible" with
the Jehovah's Witnesses.
They will believe without
question, accept everything
the Watchtower tells them,
and are not allowed to study
the Bible apart from their so-
called "bible study aids",
produced by the Wat-
chtower. Should they ven-
ture out on a bible study on
their own, Zap! sure destruc-
tion at Armageddon.
But let us get back to this
business of "Soul sleep",
which the Witnesses
(including Mr. Barney)
believe in. The Watchtower
also is quite ready to quote
liberal "preachers" and
modernists who are of
Seventh-Day Adventist,
Unitarian, Christadelphian
or similar background, and
believe the same as they do
on the subject. Mr. Barney
gives a quote from Justin
Martyr, but does not refer us
to the source of his quote. So
why should we believe it?
Then he also mentions
Ieenaeus, Ignatius,
Polycarp, Lactantius and
other church fathers. But
once again, no substantial
proof is offered; we have on-
ly the word of the Wat-
chtower, and Mr. Barney.
The idea of soul -sleep
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onse on letter about souls going to heaven
began in Eden when Satan
deceived the first family by
saying, "You will not surely
die,," (Gen. 3:4) Soul -sleep is
an unscriptural
misunderstanding based on
a few Old Testament
passages, but Christ brought
"life and inunortality to
light through the gospel" ( 2
Tim. 1:10). Solomon's mus-
ings in Ecclesiastes were
those of a doubting intellec-
tual who through human
wisdom. (as do the Jehovah's
Witnesses) . tried to com-
prehend spiritual things: the
bewilderment of a sensuous
man steeped in carnal living
(Eccl. 2:1-2).
Don't confuse con-
sciousness after death with:
a. Immortality, which only
God has now. Genuine Chris-
tians will enjoy it in our now-
mortal bodies after the
resurrection (1 Cor.
15:53,54).
b. Eternal life, which is
spiritual, abundant life,
belonging only to believers
who have been regenerated
(born-again) as a free gift of
God.
c. Eternal existence,
which every man has
spiritually in his inner man,
and which is not physical or
corruptible (1 Peter 3:4).
Enoch was translated that
he should not see death
(Heb. 11:5). When a
Jehovah's Witness points to
verse 13, "These all died in
the faith, not having receiv-
ed the promise, "he only
begs the question.
The context speaks of
Abraham and his sons not
finding their city and has
nothing to do with Enoch.
Verse 5 says "THAT HE
SHOULD NOT SEE
DEATH"!
King Saul believed in con-
sciousness after 'death,
otherwise there would have
been no purpose in his
visiting the witch of Endor to
bring up Samuel for
guidance (1 Sam. 28:11).
Ancient spelling is difficult to read
Old and ancient spelling is
extremely dificult tu read.
Our spelling must be up-
dated by abolishing silent
and deceptiv letters. I ask
the London Free Press to
lead the way. It's our chois.
Ken Tillema,
Chatham
Dear Editor:
As a member of the Cana-
dian Linguistic Association,
the Simplified Spelling
Society ( Patron Prince
Philip) an associate member
of the U.S. Phonemic
Spelling Council, and pro-
ducer of Orthografi, amove-
ment tu correct spelling, I
applaud the London Free
Press for choosing its spell-
ing. Under the headline
"Choice of spelling irritates
reader", June 2, 1981 a
reader. writes "...regarding
mispelling of the word
jewellery...I thought so-
meone just made an honest
. mistake...Is (the reporter)
an American or just a poor
speller or does she feel that
(jewelry) is the correct
spelling...I hate to think that
some (younger) reader
could be influenced..." The
editor's note stated: "Our
reporter was following the
Free Press style in the spell-
ing of jewelry. Oxford: dic-
tionary lists both jewelry
and jewellery as accepted
spellings. We have chosen to
use jewelry".
This raises an interesting
question, "Who determines
proper spelling?"' I know,
that many road signs in
Canada use "thru" without a
"gh" symbol for a previous-
ly pronounced throat sound.
Here in Chatham, Ontario all
the children in a grade six
spelling bee spelled "favor"
as f -a -v -o -r. I saw "lite" used
in a typewritten electronic
message on television. So I
asked the folks at Merriam -
Webster dictionary com-
pany, owned by En-
cyclopedia Britannica in
Springfield, Mass., "Wy du
yu spel winds the way yu
du?"
I was told that dictionaries
du not dictate spelling but
that in our society everyone
is free tu spel as they wish.
Usage determines proper
spelling. If everyone spelled
eight, height, light, without
the gh, then the shorter spell-
ing wud be O.K. There is no
correct way of spelling, only
spelling which can be
understood.
Because dictionary com-
panies record spellings used
by newspapers, the editors
of this London, Ontario
paper need not base its
chois of spelling on whether
it may or may not be listed in
a dictionary. The London
Free Press can chooz tu spel
by sound. A six-year-old
child can tel yu that "lout„
is mor correct than .`tdoubt"
in which a lexiconer inserted
erroneously a mute
character.
Spelling is a ritten
representation for the
token word. Spelling is in-
dependent of meaning. If
"night" were ritten "nite",
then that spelling wud stil
represent a meaning op-
posite tu "day" and stil hav
the same origin: a saxon
word..
Words du not hav mean-
ings, but meanings hav
words. Meanings can not be
determined from spelling. If
yu know the meanings
represented by the five let-
ters, "ortho" and if yu know
the meaning of "graphy", yu
can not put one and one
together and come up with
the meaning of "or-
thography". From pronun-
ciation of "ortho" and the
pronunciation of "graphy"
yu can not deduce the pro-
nunciation of "or-
thography". Yu can ges but
that's about it. Under -stand?
Does the "w" in rong in-
dicate the meaning and
history of the word "rong"?
Is it a Danish word?
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Kinsmen hold appreciation
night for police, firemen
Police and Firemen Ap-
preciation Night was the
theme for the October 19
general ' meeting of the
Kinsmen Club of Goderich.
Twenty-one members of the
Goderich O.P.P., Goderich
Police Department and
Goderich Fire Department
were guests of the Kinsmen
in appreciation of their sup-
port and co-operation in
various Kinsmen activities
over the past year.
Kinsmen members voted
to pledge $10,000 to the ICU
Building Fund. $2500 has
already been donated, with
$2500 pledged for 1982 and
$5,000 pledged for 1983. The
money will be used to pur-
chase four beds for the inten-
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Kin life -member Bob
McDougall is chairman of a
small building project at the
rliamsmen Centre on Keays
Street. A rear porch area
will be enclosed to facilitate
receiving materials for the
ARC Industries workshop
and cafeteria and to increase
storage room.
Kin life -member Bill
Kirkey, on behalf of the club,
presented vice-president
Ron Blue with a plaque
recognizing his election as
Kinsman of the Year for the
1980-81 term.
President John Erb
welcomed three new
members to the Kinsmen
Club. They are Tim Colwell,
Doug Cooke and Dwight
Williams.
Chairman Kin Stan Con-
nelly reminded members of
t Shind or- - inie—at
GDCI on October 29 from
2:00 to 5:00 p.m. and 6:30 to
8:30 p.m. In addition to
donating blood, Kinsmen
members have for many
years assisted in promoting
the clinic, unloading and
loading the Red Cross equip-
ment, transporting donors
who need rides and serving
refreshments. .
President John Erb will
participate in a remem-
brance service at the Grave
of the Unknown Sailors on
November 6.
Kin Director Dennis
Johnston reported that plans
are progressing smoothly for
the annual Fall Fun Night
and Buffet Dinner to be held
Sat., Nov. 14 at the Goderich
Memorial Arena. Tickets
'are available from Kinsmen
members and various local
businesses. $2,000 in prizes
ww - be.--given—away -ire- ..an -
elimination draw. The grand
prize is $1,000 or a trip to Las
Vegas.
Need
members
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geriatrics chair, and
equipment for a hairdressing
room. At the September
meeting it was decided to
donate the $2500 or more
required to purchase a
portable monitor which is
urgently needed in the
hospital. In 1982 and 1983 our
energies will be directed
towards raising money to
buy equipment for the new
Intensive Care Unit. We need
your help!
You are invited to attend a
special meeting on Wed-
nesday, November 4 at 8:00
p.m. in the meeting room at
MacKay Centre; for Seniors
( Nelson St. entrance) .
We are very -fortunate in
having Mrs. Peggy Menzies
as our guest speaker at this
meeting. Mrs. Menzies has
been actively involved in
,Hospital Auxiliary work in
Clinton and at present is
Vice-president of the
Hospital Auxiliaries
Association of Ontario. She is
an excellent speaker and will,
be able to answer any
questions which you may
have. Do try to attend this
important meeting.
Yours sincerely,
Janet Kalbfleisch
Irene White
Grace Hunter
Samuel was dead (verse
15), yet he carne up from
Paradise (verse 15), spoke to
Saul and knew his cir-
cumstances (verses 16, 17),
and gave him prophetic
guidance from the Lord
Jehovah (verses 16, 19). No
demon would have done that.
The witch was frightened,
proving this wasn't a satanic
impersonation to which she
was accustomed, and which
the Witnesses believe it was,
much less a lying spirit. It
was Samuel himself,
brought there as an act of
Jehovah.
The Apostle Paul said "to
be absent from the body is to
be present with the Lord" ( 2
Cor. 5:6-8). If there is
nothing to man except the
physical • body, Paul was
mistaken in telling us „that
one can be absent FROM the
body and present WITH the
Lord.
In Philippians 1:21-23 Paul
wrote: "to die is gain... hav-
ing a desire to depart, and to
be with Christ; which is far
better." The NWT (Wat-
chtower Bible) implications
that Paul was anxious to be
released at Christ's coming
is a confusion as well as in-
correct translation. How
could Paul's dying be gain,
when he would he un-
conscious in the grave until
the resurrection? Answer
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that one 1V1r. Barney!
2 Timothy 4:6 establishes
Paul's context showing he
meant physical death, then"
.,.. and the due time for my
releasing is imminent."
Paul had finished his course
with honor and was ready to
be with Christ. Now, Mr.
Barney, You can do a little
research of your own, and I
will give you. the references.
Josephus (37-95 A.D.),
Jewish historian, wrote that
the Sadducees, a religious
sect with whom Jesus dealt,
believed "that souls die ,like
the bodies" (Antiquities of
the Jews, Bk. 18, 1:4). "They
take away the belief of the
immortal existence of the
soul" (War, Bk.2,8:14) . In
Acts 23:8, Luke wrote that
the Sadducees "say there is
no resurrection, neither
angels; nor SPIRIT". Jesus
answered them by saying,
"GOD IS THE GOD OF THE
LIVING AND NOT THE
DEAD," taking His answer
from the Pentateuch, the on-
ly portion of the Scriptures
they accepted. He proved
their theories wrong because
He knew man continued to
exist after the death of the
physical body!
In answering the pet text ,
of Jehovah's Witnesses Eccl.
9:5-6, I like to point out the
key words "under the sun."
The phrase "the dead know
not anything" must be seen
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way Solomon expresses it.
Understanding this passage
as the Watchtower Society
views it, leaves them unable
to come back to earth again
in the New World Society.
Mr. Barney, you have built
your house of faith on sand,
and it crumbles to pieces in
the light of the Scriptures.
Yes Soule go to heaven at
-, th. The Bible teaches ft!
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