HomeMy WebLinkAboutClinton News-Record, 1985-4-24, Page 18Agriculture ail candidates meeting
Only 100 people attend meeting
Incumbent Jack Riddell suggested at an all
candidates' meeting in Lucan that Ontario
voters were being asked by Premier Frank
Miller to buy a pig in a poke, while later
debate in the session sponsored in Lucan by
the federations 01 agriculture in Huron and
Middlesex centred around the price con-
sumers are paying for pigs.
Only 100 people attended the debate bet
ween Riddell and his competitors, P(' Bry an
Srnith and NOP kraul Knopp. Many ul those
were campaign workers. judging from but
tons being worn
illEach candidate was given a five-minute to
troductor'y speech allotment and a concluding
two -minute speech The balance of the night
was spent in each responding in turn toques
tions submitted in writing by the audience
Klopp was first on the program. and noted
that one of the main reasons he was running
was due to the policy programs in Onlarw
which are causing deterioration in the
agricultural scene.
Ile outlined the NDP programs for assist ung
the family farm and small business. noting
that farmers ha v( 10 he green help to mel then'
financing in order through IOW Interest rales
over a long term
The Zurich area farmer also cited the need
for policies in ()Warn) 141 stop lureign land
ownership. which he said w as a pressure on
young farmers wanting to get into the
business.
"%\'e have to get the county ul1ices'iack to
snuff." he said in reference to the ministry
of agriculture and food and said the N1)I'
would lvoi'k 11th the support marketing
boards to get Netter prices for tarns
commodities.
"If you're slaking mer :i 5,uuo annually.
you probably won't he lofing NI)t'." he ad
vised his audience. expl.anning the party
-would fill tax loopholes which provide benefits
for the rich and world instal at•nlininuinl Rt\
on people vlu) make over S30 amu Ile said
many in that category do not now pay income
taxes.
The NDP would also pros id( Tong -term in
serest rate assistance to small businesses to
help them create ,jabs as well as help them
fight targe coporat ions..
"I share your concerns over what lie's
ahead. Smith said in reference to !arming.
. •w'hich he noted has seen good and bad years
He outlined Miller's $40 million assistance
program -which will reduce interest rates 111
nine and three-quarters percent on tarn'
operating capital and also 5111 lllal on Jun'
1 the pr0vinct' woidd he involved in the na •
tional stabilization program tar beet• hogs
and sheep. He said that would he imitated •:so
farmers won't lose a grin( deal in any one
year'." ..
Noting.•the federation's support for Premier
Davis in the past. the Lucan slam said that the
honest and lair treatment given fari1Frs by
Davis would continue tinter the present
leader.
Riddell's comment on buynlg a pig in a
poke came in -his openrng.remarks when he
.decried the tact Premier hiller was reluctant
to debate the other party leaders and that the
number of all -candidates' debates in the
riding would be limited (duc'tm 0 request from
One of the camps.
- He said it was untnrlunafe when Voters
were denied the iipport unit y 111 hear what the
candidates have to say and he termed it 0
threat to the denwcract4' process. That is
also the label he put on 1he•potiti cal patronage
exercises of the govimmnicnl.
Quoting 0 London li'r'e( Piess Writer, Rid-
dell suggested > ntari>>omldn't survive under
one-party rule. likening the 42 year Tory
reign as being similar: lo•> ne•party systems
in Russia, Cuba, etc
He said patties which rule beyond two or
three terni's start th think they have a divine
right to rule and inertia sets in.
He blasted stiller 1(ir calling an election
before calling the Legislature hock to hear the
Throne speech: consider a budget or answer
some important questions
-We and now
we're out on the electron trail (sealing with
issues I1('l11 addressed by the 1'renu(r,•' hi.
commented -
The Liberal menlh(•r salol hsled to
know Millet's agendas for getting Ont inns
your'', people back to w ark. wante(1 In know
what the got ernmenl planned 10 do ahiou) an
education system which has I;ttled lo sleet
®those y sting peoples ner•ds'and also w anted
to know what the p011e nn lull funding to the
Roman Catholic schools would be so he could
talk intelligently with people who were ask
ing. lie said he also wanted to know the
Prenmer's positon on the proposed hydro cor-
ridor in Huron and Middlesex, or if he had a
hidden plan for more hospital closings 11,'
was concerned with the lack ut interest Miller
appears to have in people as opposed to his
struggle to retain power
Questions and answers [(dimwit and Bunte
of the highlights of those were as follows•
Both Riddell and Klopp said They would op
pose such a line through the Iwo count es.
while Smith stated a concern that the lune
could go through valuable agricultural land
The latter said he would do his best to ensure
that the opponents had the intornuttun they
needed to present their rase at lie.irmlgs
After saying "no way •' the 11111' 511 LiId go
through this area. Riddell said that t , the
message 111 19142 and he couldn't helreve they 'd
reverse 9 now Ile said the government
sho)ld send its lop ministry personnel to
slake the salve opposing,stands as 01‘1,11.' 1:11'' 11id
in 1982 IUupht. who %vats urn the in111a1
h'oodland I I1dro committee said any attempt
at pulling a line through the two counties
should he stepped.
Ilow to rtes erre the situation of lower pro% in.
tial grants •lu education and the resulting
higher properly lades 14) pay fur same•
ltul(1(II sail the LtberaIS would go hark to
Tits percent tending 111'0111 Ihe'I'ories' present
47 percent saying education was lar too int
portant lo.expect municipalities to pick up 111(
extra burden. Ills party would also reform the
lax system, say ing it (vas ridiculous 10(.0111'0
property tax tram farmers and then 1'i
thein a rebate I Ie urged that the red tape and
bureaucracy in that system be (1011e away
11111 and that Only services to property 511001d
be put on property taxes. Klopp said th NDI'
would pay for education through income lax
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now helps bankers, not farmers and the NI)N
would also help farmers gel decent prices for
products. Smith outlined the Tory ()PAP and
( )1,AP program that will he rrroved to one plan
providing the assistance to larmers at nine
and three-quarters percent over three years.
Acid Rail!
Sin said this was a big concern and the
government is moving to reduce emissions by
foto Riddell said industries ha,ven'I Io11uw
ed government orders and the government in
torn ham's reacted. He said governments
may have to give loans to industries, hug it
is imperative to slake a start now to combat
acrd rain as 4,140H► lakes in Ontario have
already been destroyed and the number
would reach 41•(414(4 in the year zoo() if nothing
is (lune. Technology is available but the
government has never acted. Knopp also
blamed the government for not enforcing
rules for industrial pollution and said the NI )1'
would stake the rules slick and stake industry
lulluw Ili'nl the sante as other people have to
follow rules
1':ncouragnu'ul fur small business
Klapp Said the -N1)1' would increase interest
rule subsidy programs and the aid to farmers
would also help small businesses back on
thea' (('et las the Iwo are partners in the
economy Riddell said the Liberals would pro
vide lax credits to small businesses, but on
ly if new jobs were provided. Ile said the lax
holiday announced by the Premier was no
guarantee 111111 One new •lob would he provid•
((I and In fact the money could he used to
refurnish executive offices. Smith said the
Enterprise Ontario peogram would provide
lax breaks that would create more ,jobs and
the skills and development part >t the pro
grans would train those unemployed to till
skill jobs, •
Supply management
Riddell said he has always been a prop()
Candidates address acid rain, abortion,
farm prices, supply management,
education levels, PCB regulations. •- -
SO it w•oulc1 not he a 'burden to local
municipalities.. Smith said the pr'ovinc'e
should have the hest possible education
system and he lvould cut minor programs.
"hal in the computer age, we have to keep
up.” He said most of the provincial grants
coming to the municipalities' were lar
(('ducat ion
Abortion
Klapp and Sm it h voiced personal °pp()sil ion
to abortions. Knopp said there was a lel of
mishandling of the -present a bort ion sit uat ion
and said opponents and proponents would pro-
bahly never meet in the middle. 1}e said the
party policy was to hack freedom of choice,
but with it would go programs to promote (m-
tario as O'place to havee-kids and where tin.
wanted
n -
wanted pregnancies could be averted through
proper education. Smith said he was not in
favor of abortions on demand. Riddell said.the
province has no jurisdictionover abortions (01
demand and therefore the questions was not
something any Ontario party could do
anything about. Ile said. however. he would
conte down hard on I)r. Henry Morgenthaler
and his clinics; saying they should not be
allowed and he failed to see the reason why
the province didn't take a stand against peo-
ple who break the law. Ile said it was not
Liberal policy to have greater access to abor•
tion than at present under federal laws
I,e1 el of education and qualifications tri repro -
Sent the tiding
None of the candidates could understand
the purpose of the question. Smith said he
completed his high school educaton'at night
school and served on Lucas council 'and
several corrm01ittees. Ile said life itself IS an
education and he was interested in working
with people; Riddell said sell -education is
often the most successful. He's a university
graduate, former agricultural representiv(•
small business 'owner, teacher and now
farmer and lx)litici00. Ile said his experi(1ax
as,a teacher enabled 111111 10 understand that
vast changes were needed in the system ant
fortunately many had been mad( atter the
"caitet(ria•styl1" education tried by former
premier William Davis. Klopp said hewasn l
as old as Ins opponents and therefore couldn't
list as many experiences Ile said that it was
important, however. that Ill) Matter 11 hal 0
person did. the person did it well Hes a
graduate of l'('.\'I' and presently a farmer
Say ing he had been married for eight -and -half
months. he was also now a gond listener lit
511d that through larrning with his father he
was taught what In do. while his l't':1'1'
enurs(s taught hrtn m.11y'he was doing 11
1••a i iii lssislance Program.
Riddell said the Liberal interest rale
redmeatotr prograril would drop the rates to
eight percent for taster's 011 then' nperaitlng
debts ftp to S2oo,r1(tm and said Many thought
this could get therm over 11 , hump H( -1412
81'.1(11 lhi 1'l' (4111 be 11 Irl cot iaumer- wllo
111411 hal(1 Ironhle geltngg spring re
qunein(nt- w ithout this help With hoes ;it -,;t
cents, he said many- lat'nle.r- wouldn't (1 en
h( ,tole 1>) pal. the' 11111e and three quarters
per(enl. nu111n(d 111 the Tories H( also sand
the 1, 1hera111)1'0gl•atr-I would include farther•
11110 1e01. noting he never could under -sand
111 renters couldn't participate In the Venlig
Farmer s program Klee!) said tote NDI'
would also firing inlet est rates to farmers
down t11eight percent and would reopen the
intan'rn `savings of flee as 0 lender rel first
choice for larniers He said the Tory program
Hent of marketing boards and that without the
chicken board, there would be no chicken in-
dustry in Ontario. Ile expressed concern over
the price of quotas, and while he hoped they
would level out, that has not happened yet and
it does restrict young people from getting in-
to business in commodities covered by
quotas. lie said perhaps a ceiling k required
on quota value, saying he hoped the govern-
ment wouldn't have to set those but that the
hoards would recognize the problem and take
steps themselves to correct it. He also warn-
ed the clay may come when marketing hoards
will .he challenged in constitutional courts.
Klopp said that the buyer actually sets the
price of quotas and he is a strong proponent
of farmers taking care of their own industry.
Ile said other commodity groups should
tackle the idea Of making changes to ensure
they make money. Smith said that farming
is specialized marketing and new people com-
ing onto the scene could revitalize groups.
Separate school funding ,- ,
• Smith br'ief'ly not &I all three parties had •
agreed to the proposal. Riddell said the
Liberals indeed supported the principle but
" had requested year after year that a select
('00140 ,,. , ost.",iiish the guidelines and had
Bill Davis followed that suggestion, there
w'001(10 1 he the problem. of today where no
one knows the extent of funding that will be
available or what • criteria• the separate
schools will have to meet. He said the
.,(paras( schools could actually lose their
separateness under the Davis program ann
even Catholics were seriously questioning the
prOgt'ams. He said it was irresponsible of
Miller riot to.call the Legislature hack to allow
members t,) hear the plans .before the elec•
-
lion call. Klopp noted that Davis had said "no
way - to full funding when he wanted votes in
1971 and said the about-face was frustrating
furteac'hers and boards in both system~. Ile
.said it was unfortunate the Tories had in fact
made it an election issue by not having
answers to the questions being asked about
their plans, The NDP would not provide aid
to other private school systems and, no cur-
rent teachers would lose. their ,jobs.
' 1'(•li spill in Northern Ontario
Riddell said it was unhelieveahle that the
transport carrying the transformer which
spilled }'('Bs was not labelled. He said there
should he a Code on such trucks:However. he
said transformers of that nature were not he-
ing used now and the problem could soon
become a thing of 1he past it was important
to ensure that they are properly transported
now Smith said the material should he
disposed of quickly and put away from Our
children's future. Such items should he handl-
ed slot( Carefully and there should he stricter
regulations where they are stored and
dumped Klopp said it was important to gel
a sale place to clump dangerous wastes and
that place should be close 10 the source .so
Inng: distance hauling is not necessary.
Riddell was asked what the Liberals voold
do w nth- the lti)harts school in London If the
secondary school program there is closed He
quickly replied the Liberals would nol allow
it to ('lose and said John Roharts would flip
over three times in his grave if he knew there
was a move afoot to close 11 now Riddell said
it was discrimination to close the .school for
the deaf He.look the opportunity to blast the
Tortes for closing the (loderich Psychiatric
Hospital w filch he explained was rated as one
of the hest rel th world
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