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The GDCI Tennis boy's doubles -team swept the WOSSA meet
last week with three decisive victories and: won a berth in the
all Ontario finals tomorrow in .Toronto. The doubles team of
Pete Willis, left, and Pat Conlon, right, have worked hard for
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' finals. (staff -photo)
Courts may be only part of problem
BY JEFF SEDDON
The demands by Huron's
MPP's, 'Jack Riddell and
Murray Gaunt, • that . the
county's judicial system be in-
vestigated may prove that there
a problem here, but it is not
ou courts. •
Th inquiry demands came
in the wake of a recent . out-
break o violence directed at
the Munic' . al Police Force in
Clinton. Se eral incidents of
vandalism the in the past few
.weeks prompted he request, for
government acti ' n but the
problem is over fiv - ears old.
• "I've heard compla is from
police chiefs, provinci: and
municipal police officers and,
the general '• public for the4,p : st
six years and anything befor
that I am not aware of',. said
Huron -Bruce MPP Murray
Gaunt.
The Wingham' native ,does
not know. where the problem'
lies but he intends to find out.,.
Mr. Gaunt feels that the nutn'-
ber and consistency of the com-
plaints brought to him , merits
advising the Attorney
General's office.
The problem as Mr. .'Gaunt
understands it, is not a general
disregard 'for law and order by
the public.but,,repeated offences
by the same .people.
"I believe in giving a person
a chance but these repeaters
that constantly get 'off light
concern, me. That sort of thing
doesn't do anything for the
police, the courts or the public
and I think that the system
needs a little tightening- up.
The Crown Attorny an'd the
judges • have to . get "- a . bit..
tougher",^ Mr. Gaunt stated.
Huron County dries not stand
alone with these judical
problems but the reasons'for
them here may be unique. Lack
of activity in Huron County.
could 'be part of the problem.
There . may not ,be enough fiir
people to do here, according to
Mr• Gaunt.
Mr. Gaunt describes the
situation in Clinton as unfor-
tunate and he is frightened at'
the prospect of this condition
worsening.' He said that the
recent outbreak of violence in
dicated a lack of .respect for law
and order.
"When vigilantes do their
own policing and bring ,people
to justice themselves, then we
are in trouble", he said, "
He was referring to , the
threat made by some people in
Clinton that they were going to
handle the suspected offenders
themselves if the police. , and
courts °wouldn't.
Huron MPP- Jack ' Riddell
was in total agreement with the
inquiry by 'the ,Attorney
General and has also received a
great many complaints' concer-
ning court- leniency.
Mr. Riddell does not think
that a' lack of activity in Huron
County is the cause of the
problem,
"1 can't buy the suggestion
that the4 the.is a lack of things to
o here a'ny'more than the is
a here else", said Mr.' laid-
.del
The age group that concerns
the M ' ' from the Dashwood
area is th ''se citizens from -14 to
20 year of 1-fe feels that the
problem of 1 k of respect can
start at home.
"Maybe 'paren' are not strict -
enough at hpine an if.the,kids
.can get away with so ething at
home thep they will al think
they can with the . law., the
parents can't ,bring them to
line the la"w should", he sai
• ,The fines imposed by the
courts are ridiculous according
to Mr. Riddell. He said' that a
nominally small fine paid by
the parents usually does not
discourage an offender .into
obeying' the law,
The defense tactics used by
lawyers cannot "be . blamed, .for..
the tack of action by the courts,
according to Mr. Riddell. He.
feels that to use the law to his
client's full advantage is a
defense lawyer's fob - . but' he
also feels that a Crown Attor-
ney's job is tri demanda severe
enough fine as to teach the ?if -
fender a ,lesson. •
The depthof the inquiry will
not stop at the courts if the an-
swer is not found there,'and the
Huron .MPP' wants no stone left
unturned in the 'investigation.
. "To be fair to the police we
have to investigate the courts",
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he said, "but to be fair to the
kids we also have to look at the
police. There is a possibility'
that the police are throwing
these kids a bone to..see if they
will bite."
The situation could' worsen
according to' Mr. 'Riddell and
the possible turn of events
frightens' him..
"When you get a threat to
break windows if an arrest is
made, and the threat is carried
out, it is obvious there is no
respect for law and order", ,he
said. "If the situation • is
allowed, to continue we could
find ourselves back in the days
when justice was dealt by the
man who was fastest with his
On."
Goderich Police Chief P.D.
King .does not think that the
courts should«be blamed for. the
difficulty in ' Clinton. He feels
that the .judicial system has
been used ass a whipping boy for
problems not related to the end
result in charges made by'the
police department.
"If I were the chief , and I
were having, those problems I
would look at a lot more things•
than the courts", he said, "and
I would be asking myself 'a 1
of questions."
The head of the . derich
force cited the cone- tration of
the problem a. reason' to
believe the courts could not be
blamed. He . said that', the
roblem was isb'lated to Clin-.
to ' and that to' his knowledge,
no ther county department
had = perienced similar .dif-
ficulties.
'"I wou probe for the an-,
swer to why he problem is only
manifested in Clinton'.', said
Chief King.
'In all fairness t the judges,
Chief King thinks i necessary
to point out .they work under a
system too. He maintain: that
a judge,cannot crack down on.
an offender because of a per-
sonal thing, nor can he allow
the police to dictate to the
courts and interfere with his
job
"If a judge allowed the police
to do his job, we would have a
police state and nobody wants;;, -
that", said Mr. King.
Leniency in the' court room
has been evident in some cases,
Mr. King agreed, but he feels
this was onlya sign of the
times. He said that society
today gives more thought'to the
offender of a crime rather than
the person who was offended.
He pointed out, . however,
that . in the past two weeks
there have been harsher' senten-
ces handed down from the
bench. , He''said. this could ap-
' pear as though, the court s
cooperating witl‘the poli , but
he fears neither side ill ever
be completely sat' • 'ted.
' "As long• a ere is human
feelings in e courtrooms there
will frustration by
som - e", said the chief. •
he defense lawyer„ the
crown ' attorney, the judge or
,•the policeman never agree on
the filial outcome of a case, Mr.
King said. He suggested that
computerized courtrooms may
be the answer. Evidence would
be fed into the computer and a
verdict and sentence handed .
out. There would, be no room to
argue and no person to blame.
A hanging type judge is not •"
the answer to court leniency,.
according to Chief King.
"If a judge handed down a
harsh sentence that one of the
parties thought was unfair,,
there is always: the' appeal -
courts. And if the sentence was
out of line 'it will usually be
m reduced by another 'judge", he
Said.
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