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ISPUTABLE FAOTS
—CONCERNING—
The Timber Limits in the Disputed Territory
OF. ONTARIO.
One of the most common charges made
against the government of Sir John Mac-
donald is that it has, inlviolation of the rights
of the Provincial Government of Ontario,
given away, at nominal price& and for cor-
rupt purposes, the timber limits comprised
within the "disputed territory" west of
Thunder I3ay. Mr. Goo. W. Ross, in one of
his speeches :taring the repent campaign in
Ontario, said : What has the Dominion Gnv.
"erument done• -not with their own timber
"lituite, but with ours ? They have sold
"large and valuable timber limits in the dirt.
puted territory, after the Privy Council had
"declared it to be within the limits of the
"Province of Ontario, at the rate of $5 per
"square mile as against cur $400." Mr.
Mowat and others made substantially the
same statement. Mr. Ross gave a list of
twenty-six persons who, he said, had receiv-
ed these limits. It so happens that seven
names were duplicated in this list ; the first
seven being repeated at the end. Of the
balance, nineteen, thirteen never obtained
licenses, thiugh orders -in -council were
passed authorizing the minister to grant
thein, and were, therefore, never in a posi-
tion to cut a stick of timber on the limits.
Four of these, however, paid one year's
reietal in,advanee, or in the aggregate $1000,
whi8li has not been refunded. The other
six on the list obtained licenses, and paid on
account of rental $1970 ; but as they did
not erect mills, and as the licenses were not
renewed at the end of the year for which
they were granted, and have not since been
renewed, the only result to then has been
the loss of the money they paid to the
government. So that. the disputed territory
Is not the poorer by a single stick of timber
by the action of the Government in respect
of the nineteen persons named by Mr. Ross.
Itis proper, however, to state precisely
what has been -the action of the Governmeut
in respect to the timber in this disputed
territory. On the 26th day of June, 1874,
an arrangement was made and confirmed
by order -in -council of the 8th of July fol-
lowing, between the Dominion and Ontario
Governments, the former represented by
Mr. Laird, Minister of the Interior, and
the latter Mr. Pardee„ by which that
portion of the so-called •'disputed
territor ,i', lying west of a line pass-
ing th ualj the most easterly point of
Hunte Island, was to he admit Stered by
the Goternment of Canada, the Ontario
Government agreeing to confirm all titles
given by it, during tie period of such ad-
ministration. Under this arrangement four
twenty-one years' licenses were granted to
cut timber as follows :—S. 11. Fowler of
Fort Frances, the date of the order -in -
council being 19th March, 1375, and of the
lease 2nd March, 1876, for one hundred
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square miles ; Fuller & Co , Hamilton, date
of order -in council and lease respectively
being 22nd of July, 1875, for sixty square
miles ; W. J. Macaulay, Winnipeg, date
of order -in -council being 18th April, 1878,
and of lease let May, 1878, for 74 59-100
square miles ; and W. J. vlacaulay, date of
order 5th April, 1880, and of lease 12th
October, 1880, for 25 41.100 miles, this last '
lease being to complete the area of 100
square miles, authorized when the first
lease was granted to Macaulay. Fowler's
lease was subsequently assigned to the
Rainy Lake Lumber company, and Fuller
& Co's. to the Keewatin Lumbering com-
pany. These leases are still in existence.
THEY ARE THE ONLY AUTHORITY
FROM THE GJVERNMENT OF CAN-
ADA, UNDER WHICH TIMBER HAS
BEEN CUT IN THE "DISPUTED TER-
ITORY," SINCE 31sT. OF DECEMBER,
1885. The first three were issued by Mi.
'Mackenzie's Government, and the last by
the Government of Sir John Macdonald, in
completion of the arrangement made by his
predecessor. The terms of the leases were
made by Mr, Mackenzie's Government, and
in view of the complaint which is made by
Mr. Ross, it is worth while pointing out
that the annual rental was only $2, instead
of $5 as. has been charged by the present
Government, that the leases were for
twenty-one years, instead of yearly licenses
since issued, and that they gave the lessees
control of the land, with power to evict
settlers --a power which has in at least one
case been exercised—while the yearly
licenses since granted gave no such power.
Here is the clause of the lease giving that
power :—
"6. The present lease shall vest in the
said lessees during its continuance the right
to take and keep exclusive possession of the
lands herein above described subject to the
condition herein before provided ; and this
lease shall vest in the holder thereof, all
right of property whatsoever in all trees,
timber, lumber and. other products of timber
cut within the limits of the lease daring the
continuance thereof, whether such trees,
timber and lumber or products be out by
authority of the bolder of such lease• or by
any other person with or without his consent
and his lease shall entitle the lessee to seize
in replevin, revendieatiou or otherwise, as
his property, such timber where the same is
found in the poiseesion of any unauthorized
person and also to bring any aotion or suit
at law or in equity a;ainat any party unlaw-
fully in possession of any such timber OR
OF ANY LkND SO LEASED AND TO
PROSECUTE ALL TRESPASSERS
THEREON and other such offenders as
aforesaid, to conviction and pnnishtneut and
to recover damages if any, and all proceed-
ings pending at the expiration of the present
lease may be continued and oompleted as if
the same had not expired,"
That clause was sanctioned by the signa-
tures of David Laird, Minister of the
Interior, R. W. Stott, secretary of state,
and Edward Blake, minister of justice. It
is proper to state that in the case of the
first lease a bonus of $20 a.al in the case of
the others a bonus of $15 a square mile was
given. But spreading these bonuses over,.
the twenty-one years, the rental would still
be not more than an average of $3 a mile.
Ir, THEREF.JRE, THERE IS TIM11VR
BEING CUT TO -DAY, IN THE "DIS-
PUTED TERRITORY" UNDER •AU-
THORITY OF THE GOVERNMENT OF
CANADA, THE RESPONSIBILITY
RESTS WITH THE GOVERNMENT
OF MR. MACKENZIE, NOT WITH
THAT OF SIR JOHN A. MACDONALD.
The present Govcyrninent changed the
policy. The system l oaf twenty-one year
leases, with the extraordinary powers con-
tained in them, was abandoned, and a sys-
tem of yearly licenses was substituted.
The rental was made $5 a mile, instead of
$2 with a $15 bonus spread oyer the twenty-
one years, as had before prevailed. Where
two or more persons applied for the same
limit, they were required to compete, and
the person offering the largest bonus got the
license, if he complied with the other con-
ditions. Under this new policy, 121 orders -
in -council were passed authorizing the issue
of yearly licenses, averaging about -fifty
sgaare miles each. Of these nine were in
substitution for other orders authorizmg the
granting of berths in the shine district,
which were cancelled. These orders, how-
ever, gave no authority to the persons
named in thein to 'cut timber until they had
made the survey of the limit applied for
and obtained the license. One year's rental
in advance was required to be paid, after
the order was passed and before the license
issued, or even the authority to survey was
granted. Although only twenty-two yearly
licensees were issued under the authority of
these orders -in -council.
It is complained that the Government
continued to deal with the timber in the
"disputed territory" after the decision of
the Privy Council. The facts are these :
Immediately after the decision an opinion
of the Minister of Justice, Sir Alexander
j Campbell, was obtained in which it was
stated that "inasmuch as the Crown, as re -
"presented by the Government of Canada,
"acqured by surrender from the Indians
"their right and title in the lands in ques-
"tion, and is in possession thereof, the un-
"dersigned ii of opinion that there is no
"objection to the Minister of the Interior
"giving effect to the arrangements which he
"had made anterior to the decision as men -
"boned in his report by issuing licenses in
"the usual way."
Acting under this opinion licenses were
issued to such of those to whom the Minis-
`er of the Interior• had been previously au-
thorized to issue then who returned their
notes of survey, to the number of twenty-
one.
wentyone. The persons to whom these licenses
were granted paid to the department by way
of advance rents, the num of $5035.84 ; and
two of them who had to compete, in conse-
quence of there being other applicants, paid
in addition $1124 by way of bonuses.
ONLY ONE OF THESE TWENTY-ONE
LICENSEES EVER CUT A STICK OF
TIMBER IN THE "DISPUTED TERRI-
TORY"; THE LAST OF THE LICENSES
EXPIRED ON THE 31st DECEMBER,
1885 ; AND THE GOVERNMENT HAS
IN EVERY CASE REFUSED TO RENEW
THEM. Acting under the swine opinions,
orders in council were passed in the latter
part of 1884, and subsequent • to the llth
August, 1884, authorizing the Minister of
the Interior to issue licenses to twenty-four
applicants. But these were never acted
upon, no single license having been issued
under them. A clerical error in these orders
in °council had led to some misapprehension
on this point. It is explained in the follow-
ing correspondence :
"OTTAWA, Jan. 8th, 1887.
"DEAa SIa—In the detailed statementof
timber leases and licenses within the "dis-
puted territory" which you have furnished
me, no license appears to have been issued
under the authority of orders passed since the
decision of the Judical Committee ofthe Privy
Council on the boundary question, Are you
quite sure on this point, as the orders "them-
selves convey a different impression.
"Yours truly
"THOMAS WHITE."
"G. U. BUSY, EOG."
CROWN TIMBER OFFICE
OTTAWA, January 10th, 1887.
DEAR SIn.—I have made a careful exami-
nation of the books in this branch, and am
quite certain that the statement I' have fur-
nished you is correct. No license has been
issued under any order in Council passed
since the decision of the Privy Counoil. The
misapprehension has arisen from a misteke
of the clerks in the Privy Conseil office. The
order in council passed 25th ()wptober, 1884,
Antes : "On a memorandum Fated 3rd Ode -
"bar, 1884. from the Minister of the Interior
"representing that licenses to out timber in
"the Province of Manitoba have been granted,
"eto., etc ; "whereas the terms of themem-
orandum were . "The undersigned, (the
"Minister of the Interior) has the honor to
"submit to annexedlist of personaTO WHOM
"H r; HAS BEEN AUTHORIZED BY
"COUNCIL TO ISSUE LICENSES TO CUT
"TIMBER" etc., ete. As 1 have said no
license has been issued under the authority
of these ordersiu Council.
Yours respectfully,
"G. U. RYLEY."
HON. THOS. WHITE.
The result, therefore, of the Government's
administration of the timber resources ,Of
the "Disputed territory" is this:—Four
twenty-one year leases have been granted,
three of them by the Mackenzie Governmeint
and one, for a small area to complete that
authorized by Mr. Macken�i 'try that of
Sir John Macdonald. Thrl holders of these
leases are the ouly persons now cutting tim-
ber in the "disputed territory" under au-
thority of the Government of Canada. The,
present Government issued in all twenty-
two yearly licenses, but only one of these
licensees has ever cut timber under the au-
thority of these licenses ; they have all lap-
sed and the Government has refused to
renew them. Six of those from whom
orders-in-councilwere passed, but who never
obtained licenses, paid by way of bonus for
' the limits they were applying for, the ag-
gregate sum of $4137 50.
Some permits were granted, and it is pro-
per to refer to them. In all sixty-four of
these permits were granted, fifty-seven of
thein before the decision of the judical com-
mittee of the Privy council, and seven sub-
sequent to that date. These seven were for
cutting cord -wood exclusively, and they
were all issued on the 1st December, 1884.
They have long since lapsed and have not
been renewed, and'the aggregate dues col-
lected under them amounted only to $103.
Of these issued before the decision of
the Privy council, thirty-four were for cord-
wood, and the balance for timber, ties, tele-
graph poles, feuce rails, etc., connected with
the construction of the Canadian Pacific
railway. No permit has been granted since
December, 1S84, and none has been in ex-
istence since May, 1885.
There remains but the reference to the
price obtained for timber limits. Mr. Ross,
in his statement quoted above, says the
government of Canada sold these limits at
$5 a square mile, while the government of
Ontario obtained $40Q a mile for limits in
the northern part of the province. This is
an utterlytnisleading statement. Thepolicy
of the Ontario government is to give limits
at an annual rental of $2 a square mile, and
to charge seventy five cents a thousand feet
board measure, and one cent and a half a
cubit foot on square timber as dues. The
policy of the Dominion government is to
charge $5 a square mile annual rental, and
five per cent upon the selling value of the
lumber at the mill, which, on first class tim-
ber at any rate, is much more than the dues
charged by the Ontario Governin nt. The
$400 is the bonus, and it inay be assumed
is the highest bonus ever paid to the gov-
ernment for a timber limit in Ontario. Mr.
Ross' friends, the Mackenzie government,
fixed the value of timber limits in the "Dis-
puted," when they put the bonus at $15 a
square mile, on a twenty-one years' lease,
with annual rental at $2 a square mile, the
lease covering control of the land as well as
the timber. The rental charged by the pre-
sent government on yearly licenses of $5 is
much more than the price fixed by Mr.
.Mackeuzie's government, including the
bonus.
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