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Alpine & Keen; lease grown in
Jonesoffice ; signed the lease about
the first of January ; don't know who
is witness to lease ; aduk McAlpine &
Keen were both present when lease
was signed ; lease for one year, with
privilege of three ; don't know when
sent was payable; it was$600 a year; can
not say whether to be paid monthly or
at end of the year ; think in inthly ; no
r•en t has been paid yet ; have tried to
collect rout; took out a landlord's war -
int ; know some of the rent is duo ; it
vita at my instance this distress war-
rant was issued ; have known 'McAlpine
ince last fall, and Keen two years ;
111cA.Ipine is a mechanic ; don't know
What partioalar kind ; saw McAlpine
when lease was made ; first knew Keen
ii St. Mery's ; Keen is a mechanic, a
builder, I believe ; worked at it in St.
Mary's; have uo t known hint intimate-
ly ; do net kunw whether steadily ern-
, toyed during two years or not; have
elo part or profit in business ; don't
Runty who furnished IttuAlpitm & Keen
With materiel for carrying on the blvd.
Imes ; have known Shand about thirty
years ; first him him in Toronto ; have
Heel) kith often in St, ltlary'a ; think he
liae hear living there about twenty
years ; 1 bIziu k he is a gas -fitter ; has
no regular employmeut in S. Mary's ;
drinks a little at times ; don't know
that. he is a na tu of any means ; dida't
Pend flim to Exeter ; don't know what
otused him to come to Exeter ; didn't
e mil Keen to Exeter ; gave Keen a let-
ter of inireduction to McAlpine in De-
cember; Eeeu wanted to go into the
linsiuesa ; he bad no interest in tie,:
bueitteres befere the first of Januery ; I
i applied tamper to McAlpine for the
business and was to get half the profits;
rupplied $100 ; uothing stated as to
what McAlpine was to supply; don't
.v how many men McAlpine ont•
ployed ; d net think I got half the pro-
fits ; dm% know whether McAlpine was
it matt of means or not ; Wei not in
Exeter in Jetmary ; first board of the
Ere ie Jaututry, on Monday hest ; swear
to that positively; don't know wher
Shand came here ; swear I didn't send
Shand here; gave Shand no letter of
i itroduction; swear positively that 1
a:d not snow of the Jauuery firs until
]at Monday ; the piece was insured for
$1,750 iu the Oi izens and 51,750 in
the Western. I think with N. E. Birtch
at S.Moy 8, receiving the Ned Lotion
through MoAlpine; saw AIcAlpine in
St. Itteky's when I obtained valuatiou ;
doe% know the back of Ids calculation ;
1 filled nil the ineuranoe 'application ;
eras nit notified by letter of theelann-
nry fire ; peid the insurance premium
anyself to N. E. Birtch ; never sent
money to McAlpine to ray the insur-
ance ; never sent taut $80 for any par -
robe ; Sent K :en 580 about laat of jam.
teary. at K !en's reg east, the request be-
i et. by letter, as advance ou good,: be
b id delivered there; not likely 1 sent
motley wit hon* siguing the letter ; think
it ells addressed to Keen, but not cer-
tain ; mil Keen in letter to see
1 let istock weir well insured; was not
itified by telegraph that either of
t uese 1u:1:trances w as not act:opted; never
saw or heard' Of such a te:egram ; may
have heued sumething of it slime the
fire ; never heard from B:rtch that
eith ir of therm iiisnrances was not ge-
cdpted ; grit policyjof Citizens from Mr.
Bartel, ; sent the $30 to Keen in letter
by some person who was coinieg; think
it wes McDertnett,teiling him to deliver
to Keen ; stuff was sent to Mr. Her.
Stone, of Si. Mary's, but mine to me ;
b Jtsno f itindry or any placef eltstoriog
iisstuff ; dou't !mew where aey of
tee stuff is ; am Eleratone's family doc•
te ; he is ti 11trd ware tnerchaut ;
1: tow of any stuff being removed from
're and stored in St. Alary's ; have no
stet ehenee of any Ichel itt St. Mery'e;
bon •e, two tote and rectory 1 b
for 51,400 ; have copy of applieation at
oaiee; veined it io application over
$ o00;"ainsured for $35.000. ' • •
To Mr. Elliot—Heard of fir‘by tale.
gr0 en. Saturday ; did not tell agent
:tome fire till &Imlay afternoon ; look.
e 1 about, the stre.et fur agent but did
n g 1. to his office ; told some nne else
of th fire, but cool( nut say who it
w ni ; •et tw Mr. Biatelt in his own hone;
hal iitecenversatiou with Birtchebont
Foley ; Mr. Birtch was agent fdr ttie
aunaeies ; don't know whether inert.
gege ante discharged or not ; know the
preperty tv4s u 'der mortgage ; never
a ilted Mr. Joitee whether the mortgage
as diseharged or not ; told him about
f enr or five tut:tithe ago • to register
I please of mertgage ; have not a iced
him uleint it, eince ; have other property
se se MAry.r ; don't keep the deeds ;
v exeminect the deeds of other prore
arty, hitt hey° not 1 ioked at thie'deed
don't know whether it wits completed or
not ; pot information in December as
valuation upon Which applieatiou
Was b teed, but di,le't melte application
nail February; MaAlpine never told
ref vette° to fire letviticheen
,vereil in the hailding: no one else told.
pre of it timet know It iw),ItIcDorto tea
1* tretataiet teecome to Exater ; I keete
thee wanted et tuner; trever. 'melte to.
atep,,smett ebent it : don't knew how I
ettat. to meet LDria.: ; was not in
THE TIMES
AleDermott'is house before thie week
since the fire ; gave him the letter rot
Keou at my office: lie told the lie was
corning to Exeter: had seen MaDermot
before,but was not Intimately acquaint.
ed: told pini deliver it to Keen : receiv.
uo acknowledgement from Keen : don't
even know whether he has ever got it
yet: I thought it would arrive safely ;
have spoken to Keen about it slime; he
told me he had received the money ;
he didn't say what he had done with it;
it was an advance on material sent to
Duncan Miller: have not received the
$80 from Miller : understood from
Danced) Millar that the stiff was there;
I don't know what Keen would de with
the mousy unless furnish material ; the
warrant of distress is leaned for 550
for one mouth's rent : the tease coin.
inoneed on the 1st of January : war.
lAlpme asked me to get him it partner ;
rant fur rent was issued this week Me -
sent Keen at McAlpine's suegestion :
most likely I. recommended Keen : did
not provide to a: -sit Keeo : the 580
was the first assistance over I gave
Keen : might have lent money to klo-
Alpiue, but don't remember : heard
from harstone that etnff was delivered
there : he told told me stuff was seta
from factory here : don't think I asked
hitn: uuderstood hem Miller 'that he
had received 560 in material from the
factory : said nothing about rent to
Mc:Myhre when I sent him the money:
the stuff at Miller's is worth 500 : he
owes me $80 on the same trans tetiou :
understood 1ililler bought it and was te
pay me $80 on it : dim% know whether
that sent to Harstoue was purchesed
uot.
To Mr, McNabb—Keep bank book
in Bank of Meutreal, hi St. Marys
insured the building in litth 0 impaniee
for three menthe ; insured 1 it that
abort term thitikiog I might sell ; base
been offered $2,800 for the property
from \Vilsou ; tnis at the factory ;
dou't kuow where Wilson livee ; Mr.
Adams was preseut when th offer was
made; no cue ever offered me $21G0 ;
know of no stuff Whig taken from the
factory to the old foundry ; think Har -
stone etores goods there ; told the par-
ty who brought it to deliver at the old
foundry fur Hale.oue ; &lift know -who
tt was ; think ite was a stage dri
ver ; Haretoue boaght the stuff; don't
know whether he (edema it or not
[ can't say wliy I t•o!ct t'ie Ault'
to be delivered to Iiarstone ; had 110
cooversatiou with Harstone or anyone
else as to why he should send the stuff
to the old fauedry ; the stage driver
Iidu't tell me that he had been tt Mil-
!er's. uor (lid 1 see him there ; tinder.
stood McAlpine & Kan had sold stuff
to Mr, limestone; e &Li% say why I sent
the stage driver to lEarstone with the
:tuft ; probably heard from Keen the
Elatstoue had pnrcuased the stuff;
save put in a turning Lathe, boring
tchiee, and, 1 think, 8 or 4 saw, bet
caul say when ; coulde't say wbether
tt we-, before or after 1 leasad it to Mce
Alpine ; don't lino .v how inany s tws
were in the factory wheu 1 boueht it ;
there were some it it, and 1 have tak-
en noue out ; put in theretwe
he was tu get them pit in ; 1 ga the
etivs, but don't know whether they
:owe put in o • n, ; also got the tare.
Me lathe, but don't know Whether it
sai mit 10 or not ; don't kno v what
tehinery was in the place ; have lee
tdea how many saws were ie the place
wheu buret ; think there ought to have
been six or eeven ; have never been
there siuce they should h este beep put
11) ; the saws were bought from Abe
Jones, no price was fixed et hem, 1
;vas merely to pay what- wee reale-ma.
1.1e ; he toll me the prices, the lathe
Wes to be 540; he has never given UM
A hill of the good—.'b the boring
machine from • Mathea O'Brien and.
{ate hitn 510 for it; the Newt, earst 55
•,ach, tha lathe, $40, belting, 58; dou'L
Iceow the total to be paid Jones ; he
has no interest ie the property ; tio Due
11)14 Bey interest Mit but myself ; SUP -
pose Jones has chaiged• me whit the
same ; liti nettling to do with partuer-
akal. or McAloine & Keer,
1>etet McDermott sworn—Live in S.
nerd run a wood turner ; worked
ill the building berried shice the skond
Thursday in January,. hasieg beeit
employed by McAlpine & Keen ; when
E arrived at the •fire Saturday morning
rhe fectory was mostly burot. Left
•
.*bout 6 30 the pretiona evening ; the
.lanuery fire .oecurred at. tny Imam ; I
believe it wait set afire because 0( 1130
table lege Nitro retu ived from where
they had been piled the previous night
and placed on the fire ; the table legs
wore spoiled ; eller that I wits alwave
in d..ead lest may tools should be band,
and so took theta away at night ; never
did thie Were. . The •stove war about
3 feet from the fi e ; the took' of the
riffeir tea me to belieere the fire was not
het:ideate). No one in partichlar 0eked
the (104 et night ; jetties Lealie and
SX illie McNabb wore • the firemen ; wee
at both fires tut, soon. es 1 citadel (Irene
anti get there ; • den% say 'Altai I ev•ir
told env persoo the place would be
wined : brought 'a letter from Dr.
Hill .to Kean : Ini didirt tell mo there
, I believe I said a, word to anyone abont
the money in the letter being sent to
insure the stock : was constantly em
ployed when in the factory: intended
moving my family to town next week,
as I purposed continuing work in the
factory : worked ell day Friday the
engine stopped running about 6.15 ;
don't know whether there was any fuel
to °arty on the work next day or not,
To Mr. MoNabb—Have lived iu St.
Marys eines: Sep., 1877 ; lived at Avon -
ton before that ; lived there a Itttle ov-
er a year ; wes foreman of Mr. Intnituie
shop; lived in Stratford befere Avon -
ton; had ' it power rented in St. Marys,
and had a business of my own ; worked
a while for Mr. Garner; Npbody tient
inc to Exeter; . Mr. Keen hired mo,
:sending a little girl to my Manse on
Now -year's (ley; I was to be paid $2 it
day ; came 011 first Wednesday after
New•year ; Howey asked the if Dr.
Hall bad gearenteed my wages,. but 1
I never told him he did ; there were
five men working in the shop at the
time of fire ; when I left didn't notice
who looked the door ; wesn't there
when it was looked ; rio true in the
shop but myself had tools ; no nue
told 113,1 who bed key that night ; heard
James Leslie say he had key on night
uf January fire ; Shand was riot there
nt titne of January fire ; det.t't know
Shand's duties there; young Leslie
showed him how to run engine ; don't
know whether he worked all the time
or not ; Laslie was learniug to turn
than% notice Shand or anyone of the
establishment wheu I got to fire ; don't
know whether there was fire in stove
that night when I loft or not ; don't
know who locked door on night of
Ja telly fire ; have no idea who had
key on night of January fire ; don't
remember telling McAlpine that Keen
sail the building uould be burued
Mat 0 Brian didn't hear of fire till next
morning after breakfaat ; all the hauls
were itt the same house on night of
January Due; ieterided goiug home to
pay a eke on Saturday ; told no one
intend •(1 to stay there ; dide't tell
Elowey so ; never told Howey I wits
leaving baceuse building was going to
bu bunted down ; think 1 wonld re-
membar if 1 tom him ; have been
Immo several times ; went hotne near-
ly every Saturtlai night ; saw Han
ones ; don't remember when I went to
[Ir. Hell's °Nee to get the letter ; Mr.
"Teen told inn go.for the letter Keen
save we a note .to carry to.De. 111i;
dote,. remember what •.E relict to him
ahout fire ; won't swear that I told him
enythiug about January 'fire ;
savour that I did or' that I didn't ; have
mi couversetiot: with D.'. Hall during
ka1 day or two about the fire ; it was
lb reference to taking the items of the
oriaddnery ; am perfeetty positive that
lete Hall and I never rehearsed my
evidence : IL few whifl ereea and noel: -
yoke,: were retrieved from the f tctory
the day b ifore fie, oleo a bundle of
oiottaitandles, and two' sets of mutters,
lot a whole load : told no one that tly
erything was taken away the day be -
f we fire : don't know whit value
prover y remained in bailding Klett
helped D tvis to pat the stuff ou the
sleigh : have baell paid alt my wages
tat $2,4 : was paid hy Keen the let-
ter I brouelit wits delivered to Keen :
tin perfectly positive 1 did not open
the letter : wasdioine. last Wedttesday
night abont 8 o'clock': saw Mr. Gill
end Dr. Hell : saw Ilan in his office :
saw him at 8 o'clock at night : went to
telt him if he was going to Exeter :
lever mentioned fire to him : valued
neenitiery at $3,875 : arrived at this
valuetiee by price lists of -machinery :
Oiek the valtettion as fair : think the
balding was worth 5400 or $500 : • the
-hafting. was not included im my•valua•
lion':
To Mr. Eiliott--After coming to
Exeter I went home Ithnost every Sat.
trilay : might have mitered elm Satir-
ise,. (Cite witness here displayed
such au extraordinarily 'bad t; memory
that Mr. Month() asked him if he re.
nembered (Jhristmas, and New -sews,
which he replied'itreheratfirmative..)
there lieve been seven or eight Sun-
days since Na" -years, but don't' know
low often I went berme Raving Dr..
Hell : don't know whether 1 went once,
twice, three or four times a week : re-
member going only onee except • on La
Seturdty : that was the night of Mr.
Brown's 'Meeting match : Keen and
Willy McNabb went with me ; MN ibb
(tame hotne with' me : was down town :
don't know whether the Janurtry• fire
had taken place before that tinnier not:
didn't speak to anyone about the fire
.xcept the men in the shop ; was
b iarding et Mr. 11 iwev'e : did t't men-
tiou the fire there, but talked. about it :
saw Win. MuNiteb a'meit every day :
don't reniember telling him that the
wurol was ell (teed up, but won:t swear
told Keen 01,4 Mr. MoNebie
wa not to be allowed teecome.nottealaa
building : don't know who told me
that MoNahla was not t0. be edeteetlie
the shop ; wtet swear that I ail fib)!
toll Mrs. McAlpine that
Keen was emphaetto biarte the
rt
ing won't wear t Mrs.
ws4. ail)maney in thielettea; saytHowev theti%tialiaved•liisee twits one of
whether it was sealed or tk4t : don't , Dr. Hell's tools, and that the building
Was going to be burned : will ewear
that I never told Homy that Dr. Hall
was responsible for my wages : all I
told Howey about Stoma was that he
drank a little told Keeu who sent the
totter, and if Keen says he don't know
who sentit lie,I believe,tells an untruthi
!thew Miller & Harstone well ; knew
goods were going there before they
went ; uuderstood they were sold ;
won't swear that I dion't say that the
stuff was sent away because the builds
ing wae going to be burned.
To Mr, McNabb—Told .someone on
morning of fire something about mak-
mg 510 : expected to make it out of
whiffietrees that I was turning ; woul
swear that I didn't tell someone that
we had burned the last stiok of wood,
and that 1 hoped the insurance would
be obtained ; expected to male 510 for
the firm on day offise.
To Mr. Moscrip—I intended looming
back if I got employment by the year :
no persou told me what evideuee to
give.
To Mr. McNabb—Will swear that I
dido't say that I knew the building waa
ging to be hunted, and that I would
see that the insurance mooey was not
Paide;
'lMr. Moaorip—My only reason
for supposieg the building world bo
bnrued was that it had been fired be-
fore.
1.12o Mr. McNabb—Won't swear that
didn't say to Hayes on morning of
fire, "Well, John, you're tiers to see
he fire, after all ;" won't swear that
I did not say the same thing ot Cole.
Mat. O'Brien sworn—Am a resident
of St. Marys, and a mitchiuist by trade.
Oi Sunday, ath February, Mr. Kean
came to my plane and told me his ma-
chines didn't work very well; and wish-
ed me to come and fix them ; but did-
n't care to leave my business ; came
just to oblige Keen, becalm I hate to
see it fellow stock, you know ; came on
the 10th, atal was to receive 52 a day,
bot didu't want to stay long; about 9
o'ehielt, when near the factory, met
Shand, who said he was looking about
in ease of fire; went to work the next
day to fix the band saw ; worked about
fuer days altogether ; brought up a
lathe and boring machine, but couldn't
find out who Wee to pay me ; 1 asked
McAlpine, and he said Dr. Hall had
agreed to send the articles; be asked
Dr. Hall for pay, and he said he had
nothiug to do with it ; got the articles
I brought up at the obi foundry in St.
Marys ; they say the old foundry be-
longs to Mr. Jones ; I got all the ma•
chiuery there; .got only $1 for my
w rk and nothing for bringing up the
inachinery; was iu bed at Brown's
hotel at the time of the last fire, and
heard nothing of it mita after break-
fast ; Was in the engine room about 4
Friday aiternoon, and there were only
A LW sticks of cordwood lift; intended
toting home auywey, because it didn't
pity me to key.
Ti Mr. MeNabb—Dou't think $2 a
day good wages for me, because I am
itm baseness ; told McDermott I was
ming back, and he said he was going
too ; he would say one thing one clay
about goiug and the next day quite the
contrary ; have lived in St. Mary'e
about 15 years ; worked for Haggert,
:also for Moore about two years; Bob
Herstoue and I Are partners ; we run
en implement business ; I am iu will a
little, site also n contraotor ; arn in
;several other Mingo, and in fact do
aoything to make money; ani also a
partner with De. Hall in a patent right
for a grate which 1 invented ; wheu 1
came the last time to Exeter I told my
pro tner I would be beak in two days;
Kan waeu't in the business when I
brought up the mitohinery ; Hall did
tell me he would be responsible for my
pay then; he also said he would to
eponsible for the machine I sold him ;
sold the machine for $10 ; don't keow
who had the key the night of the fire;
Shand usually locked up ; think I saw
the door shut that eight ; don't know
whether young Leslie had the key or
not ; saw Dr. Hall in St. Marys on
il inday following the fire ; saw hint nt
his office, in the afteraoon ; N. E.
Birtch 'and. others were present ; saw
him also for a few minutes on Snuday,
end told him ebout the fire ; told him
the place had been fired in January,
itnil be said he had beard within of it
1 told no one ou the morning of the
lire that I was not working iu the fac-
tory by the day ; did hear lots of ru-
mors ; heard ,the fire was going to be
set ; the stuff sent from the factory the
day before it was burnt was taken to
Elaretone's more, but as this had
changed betide, the new proprietor
wouldn't take it, saying be only wanted
to keep good rite; don't know who
hired tact at all ; went to Hall before I
came; one meld "Come," anti the other
maid " Go." McAlpine said " Come"
and Hall said "Go," and I came ; got
all the machinery I .brought at the old
foundry,, reported to be ewned by Mr.
,Ionee , told me to get them;
askiitt Jones should take them ; be
told me to, go 'to the old f iundry and
take whatever, they wanted ; [this wile
repeated by the witness] ; both Jones
and Hall told mo to take the property;
Itinem appeared to be the in.ait iuter•
FAIllitletItY 27 187J
°Med in tile property; thought
pine was wanting the machinery, and
Hall was getting 11 (03' him from Jones;
didn't get paid for bringing the stuff to
Exeter; brought no spoke lathe; the
Dr, told mo there was a spoke lathe
here ; thought from what 1. heard that
the place was set on fire ; heard lots Q1
people talk about the first fire ; told the
Dr. of this fire and he said iG was in.
reared ; the goods sent to Haretene were
taken to Jones's old foundry after being
refused ; thought Keen was raisiug
hard feelings in the factory ; may havo
told some One that Keen and Shand
were hard cases; did tell some one the
morning after the fire that my wages
were all right, as Dr. Hall Ives respou-
To Mr. Mece—Dr. Hall gave me a
letter to give Kean when I brought up
the lathe.
8 p. rn. Friday.
;earn a. Keen sworn—I, with AInAlphio,
rented the beading factory from 1)r. Hall, the
loose being drawn by Jones dt Moscrip, of St.
Marys, sometime in the latter part of Decem-
ber. The rent was payable tit the end of each
, month,if50, or $600 it year. I have known
hfeAlpino six a seven weeks, and got acqnaint-
ed with -him through Dr. Hall ; rio one scut mo
up hero; sent myself ; had no letter of intro-
duction from Dr, Hall ; Mat. O'Brieu gave me a
letter, but I don't know what it contsined ; don't
know who sent it; have known Hall about two
years; worked at my trade iu 8. Marys; was a
contractor there; worked fur Dr, Hall at differ-
ent times; have been back to St Marys three
or four tunes since the January fire; brought
up my family about the end of ;Tannery; can't.
swear that 1 saw Dr. Hall in St. Marys after
the January fire, but won't swear I had no
conversation with Dr. Hall about that fire •
would not he natural for MO tO remember if
bad such a conversation; don't know wit 1 time
the fire in January was, but think it was about
the end of the mouth; went to St. Marys after-
wards and have no doubt I saw Dr. Hall; may
have seen him in his office or on the street;
may have had conversation with him, but can't
say ; suppose I informed him of the fire ; have
no doubt I did inform him ; no doubt 1 went
to St. Mays to inform him of the jannary fire ;
don't know whether he said anything when I
told him ; swear I can't tell what be said; don't
remember that any one was in his office when
I told him; had uo insnrance on building or
tool; after the January fire applied to Birtch
for insurance on the stock, but he refused, and
directed me to 'Amble, who also refused, but
why I can't say; never applied to O'Byrne
McDermott brought me a letter, 'which he said
was from Dr. Hall; this was the day ho shut
McAlpiue out of the factory; there was no ad-
dress on the envelope, and I don't remember
whether it was signed or not ; Dr. Hall scut me
the Mi in that letter for stuff sent to Duncan
Miller; the letter did not say what the money
was for ; don't think it was after the receipt of
the money that I went to see Dirteh abont in-
suring the stock; no oue was present when I
opened the letter, Mi I carried it m My poeket
an hour or so before opening it ; got the letter
at the factory; Leslie and Shand live in tho-
house with me; can't say whether the letter was
opened before I got it or not ; don't know whe-
ther it is destroyed or not ; there was a written
agre.naent as to partnership between McAlpine
and myself ; Hall had nothing to do with arran-
ging our partnership; never saw him here un-
til lest Monday; don't thirk I talked to him
several times about the fire; I hired MeDev-
mott; never told anyone he was sent by Hal;
hired Shawl also, and never told anyone that
Hall hired hire; wanted him to work, and he
was not sent as night watchman; Shand gene-
rally went round the factory at nights tel see
that everything was all right; Shand took the
key Friday night last; ho has had it every
night since he came up; he boarded witn me;
never enquired who locked the door that night;
am proprietor of that business and never made
this enquiry; don't know whether the people.
believe me or riot; if anyone asked me I should
say Shawl locked the door,. bemuse he. had
charge of the key; went in bed about 8 o'clock
the night before the last fire; first heard of the
fire a few minutes before four; dressed as fast,
as I could and ran to the fire; Shand and Les-
lie were them; the whole thing was falling in;
Shand (lid not say anything about how it oc-
curred; could get into the factory without the
key, could go in by the window, for McAlpine
got iu that wayand stoht the books; the boiler
was in the end of the building toward street ;
the other cud of the buildingfell first; won't
swear there was $200 worth of stock left in the
building; I sent away a lot of stock the day be-
fore the fire by stage to Harstone ; didn't send
it to Miller's; think the stage driver would be
wrong if be says I sent it to Miller ; don't know
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where the stuff is now; hoard. from evidence in
previous court that it is in the old. foundry;
think Harstoue owns the stuff; looked the fac-
tory myself the night before the January fire
afteiwards gave' the key to Leslie, who kept it
all night; that fire took place about 11 o'clock ;•
heard of it the next. morning: McAlpine and
McDermott wont out to the first fire ; McAlpine
came back about 1 o'clock and told me about'
the fire ; don't know that I was called that
ught ; neither Leslie nor myself got up; Leslie.
went to bed when I did, but he au not get up
at all ; Leslie said when Mrs. McAlpine called
him the night of the fire:in January last " Oh,
that's too old a tale" ; they would wake him up,
any time they got their eyes abroad.
To Mr, Elliot—Mr. Easton° did not order -
any stuff from me; he merely told me he would
want something after awhile; I heard after the <N..
stuff was sent that la . refused to take it ; hoard.
he refused bemuse invoice was not sent; sup- y
posed he owns the stuff beeause I sent it to
him; barred McAlpine out bemuse I thought
he had robbed me ,eiaangh already ; know the
boy hak got in the factory without the key ;*
found this out about three weeks ago, when the
fire had beau attempted, but didn't take any
precaution to close this aperture ; didn't think .
11 was necessary; was afraid the place would be
destroyed. Mit yet $.00k no precaution to guava
against anyone eutering the building ; Went to
St. Mary's the next da:;' ; employed Shand c.
cense I thought he was treat' vorthy ; when I•
gave him the key I told him to look after the
place; the door of My house was left opon, and
Shand mild go hi and out whenever he liked;
if he was out at any tint° and I asleep by
come in without my hearing him; didn't see
Shand wino ii thi nigh t of the last fire, nor
did I see him go out AMOR Leslie I didn't see
coming in, WIWI* it was about nine ts'clock.
To Mr. Moserite—Ifie:valite of the goialit sent
to Haratont was about $23 or a24; brt'e heard
the boys say they could get through the hole et
the end ,Of, tbe, building ; the, pia., foundry is a.
storehotise tdr MI:atone; know it by win
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nby,seeing his teaperri there ; sant the stuff t •
}:4rstane Is/cause I know whet he a Id, ant
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