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libertarian
Libertarians are out there,
but they don't know they are
Libertarians, said the Huron -
Bruce candidate campaign-
ing under that political par-
ty's banner.
Joe Yundt, 43, of RR 3
Brussels is running his third
election campaign although
only his first in Huron -Bruce.
A believer in freedom of in-
dividuals with government
only providing a
"good"justice system and an
army for outside aggression,
Yundt said he is providing an
alternative to the main three
political parties in Canada.
Fotpr�n7rerly a professional
enginker in Brampton, where
he twice ran as a Libertarian
canditlate, the separate man
came to Huron County three
years ago to farm.
He has 40 head of cattle on
his farm and grows beans as
well as mixed grains.
The Libertarian candidate
said he was raised in the
Monkton area in Perth Coun-
ty and while growing up had
always had the notion that
Canada was a free country.
Yundt said he grew up and
found out this country is not
free.
"I can't milk a cow and sell
the milk to you," said Yundt
adding that "people with
guns" would put him in jail if
he sold milk without quota or
for not having the milk
pasteurized.
When it was pointed out
that dairy farmers
themselves originally wanted
the quota system, Yundt
countered that milk quotas
were initially set up to protest
the producers. He compared
it to his own profession which
has an association to protect
engineers.
Issues
When dealing with specific
issues, Yundt often repeated
his philosophy, based on the
writings of Ayn Rand, on hav-
ing less government.
He termed the federal
deficit "absolutely
ridiculous" and said it could
be paid off by selling crown
corporations like Canadair.
As for the government job
creation programs, Yundt
simply says that's not the
government's business.
"The government can't
create jobs. It shouldn't have
anything to do with creating
jobs." said the Libertarian
candidate.
Equal pay for work of equal
value legislation is dictating
one person's wishes on to
somebody else says Yundt.
He explained that if he
wanted to hire someone, male
or female, at 50 cents an hour
and that person accepted that
wage, then the government
shouldn't be involved.
Yundt doesn't only think
that non -working women
shouldn't contribute to the
Canada Pension Plan, but no
one should be forced into pay-
ing it. He said the plan should
be voluntary as are insurance
plans. The candidate said
OHIP and Unemployment In-
surance benefits should also
be made voluntary.
"The government shouldn't
have the right to make me
pay it," he said.
The restriction of por-
nographic material, Yundt
said, should not be controlled
by government. He verbally
pointed to George Orwell's
1984 and said controlling por-
nography is bringing Orwell's
fantasy to life.
Y undt was pensive on the.
question of abortion noting it
is a tough subject for him to
make a response to. He ex-
plained that Libertarians
believe in not hurting another
person. A woman, said the
candidate. has to live with a
decision made to abort a
pregnancy. The Libertarian
remains unsure if a fetus is a
person or not.
Yundt said the government
shouldn't be in the business of
giving gifts or controlling
banks, or printing what he
termed fiat money. Fiat
money is paper made into
legal tender as is Canadian
money.
The Libertarian said if he
printed money he would be
arrested. He suggested gold
or something of value be us-
ed to make neccessary
purchases.
The Libertarian said if
there is less government,
taxes will be reduced.
"With less government it
will be easier for farmers to
farm," said Yundt.
If elected MP, the can-
didate said he'd "do away
with silly legislation and try
to make a better country".
He doesn't expect to win
though. In the last elections
he was in, he received 243
votes out of 66,000 voters.
"At least I beat the
Marxist-Leninist and the
Communist candidates," he
said.
Yundt won't be doing any
door-to-door canvassing and
has no committee rooms. He
is considering invitations he
has received for all -candidate
meetings.
He has, he said, just made
sure his name is on the ballot.
Murray Cardiff
First
Elected at the largest
federal nomination meeting
in Huron -Bruce, 30 -year-old
Liberal candidate Bruce
McDonald is no stranger to
politics.
His biography includes the
note that his great -great
grandfather was the first
reeve of Grey Township.
"I come from a family well-
known locally, both for its far-
ming activities and for its
heavy involvement and com-
mit ment to community and
civic affairs."
His father, Donald
McDonald, is .a trustee and
past chairman of the Huron
County Board of Education.
Legally separated for two
years with no children,
McDonald is a partner in the
firm of Craig,. McDonald,
,Reddon Insurance Brokers
Ltd.
He has been committed to
the Liberal party for 12 years,
and when commenting on the
issues, while speaking off the
cuff, he follows party policy.
McDonald is past president
of the Huron -Bruce Liberal
Association and in the 1979
and 1980 elections, he acted -as
campaign chairman for then
candidate Graeme Craig.
Incumbent working for second term
It's Murray Cardiff's se-
cond election campaign and
according to his campaign
manager, Ken Campbell, the
incumbent is working harder
the second time around.
The 50 -year-old Grey
Township farmer was first
elected to the House of Com-
mons in 1980 as member of
parliament for the Huron -
Bruce riding.
Prior to his 1980 success,
Cardiff was chairman of the
White Bean Producers
Marketing Board. In that
capacity, he participated in
two missions to the United
Kingdom.
As Huron -Bruce MP, the
Progressive Conserva tive
candidate has served on the
standing committee on
agriculture and finance as
well as a task force in-
vestigating the possibility of
a national trading corporation
which involved hearings
across Canada, Europe and
the U.S. In the Conservative
Opposition, the rookie MP
served as deputy agriculture
critic.
He and his wife Betty have
three children, Jeffrey, Joan
and Scott.
Issues
The ever-growing federal
deficit has to be curtailed and
Cardiff, following his party's
policy, says responsible spen-
ding is the key to a better
economic picture for the
country.
The MP said government
spending has to be looked at
as an investment with
returns.
A larger tax base is needed
across the country, said Car-
diff noting there has been no
incentive from the federal
government for expansion in
the small business sector. He
said expanded small
businesses would help spread
the tax base around.
Carrying on the thought of
incentives for small business
to improve the national
economy, Cardiff said more
jobs for Canadians can come
through the small business
sector. The government's role
in job creation should be one
of providing tax incentives to
small businesses for pro-
viding new jobs, said Cardiff.
He also said that Canadian
trade markets have to be
opened to improve the
economy.
Cardiff was part of a trade
mission to ASEAN countries
in 1983.
"We have to be there and
develop markets," said
Cardiff.
A Conservative govern-
ment, said Cardiff, would
assist businesses with
research and development
particularily with foreign
markets. This idea, said the
MP, supports his earlier com-
ments on responsible spen-
ding which he defines as
receiving a return on invest-
ment. In this case, the returns
are jobs and expanded
markets.
The Conservative can-
didate supports equal pay for
work of equal value and said
he hopes that cases of
employees being paid less
than other employees based
on their sex is happening less
try for Liberal candidate
Although McDonald
secured the Liberal pontine:
tion from Heather Reddick of
RR 2 Zurich, there is no
discord in the local party
association, said the
candidate.
"Heather and I are good
friends," he said noting she is
helping with the campaign
advertising.
McDonald said he is deter-
mined to win the election,
however noting it isn't easy to
unseat an incumbent. To win,
McDonald will have to defeat
incumbent MP Murray
Cardiff.
"Nothing worth achieving
is easy," said McDonald.
Issues
The Liberal candidate
responded to several ques-
tions under three basic topics
- economy, women's issues
and farming.
On the economy, McDonald
says there is "no question"
that the national debt cannot
continue to grow.
"The deficit has to be
reduced, but we can't forget
the social system," said the
30 -year-old reiterating com-
ments about a "safety netted
society", a phrase used by
Liberal Prime Minister John
Turner.
McDonald emphasized that
the "biggest challenge" fac-
ing society is the balancing of
the needs of society with the
ability of the economy to pay
for those needs.
As for changing the deficit
picture, McDonald said his
leader, Mr. Turner, inspires
confidence in investors. He
doesn't expect anything
dramatic to change the deficit
picture though.
On job creation, the Liberal
candidate pointed to Mr.
Turner's newly -announced
First Chance program.
Although he knew only what
he had read in newspapers,
McDonald praised the con-
cept that is geared to enabling
young people to get ex-
perience on their resumes.
Apprenticeship programs
would also be beneficial for
youth said McDonald noting
the federal government par-
tially funds post secondary
education.
He said the education
system has to come together
to provide what business and
industries want.
The Liberal candidate sup-
ports the idea of equal pay for
work of equal value for
women. He said that as long
as women are competent for
Woman carries NDP banner
An active feminist, 32 -year-
old mother of two, Valerie
Bolton, is taking her first leap
into federal politics.
Ms. Bolton is the New
Democratic Party's can-
didate in the federal riding of
Huron -Bruce for the Sept. 4
federal election.
A part-time employee of
Women Today, Ms. Bolton is
also a researcher for a con-
ference called Turning Point.
She is also writing a booklet
on rural women's groups in
Ontario. She and her hus-
band, farmer and bricklayer
Dean Walker, have a farm at
RR 1 Belgrave where they
rase their daughters, Monica
7, and Amber, 4.
Not an Ontario native. Ms.
Bolton was raised in Van-
couver. She moved to Ontario
10 years ago after travelling
and working in Australia for
a year and a half.
Issues
The NI)P candidate said
the only way to resolve the
federal deficit in the long run
is to make a commitment to
provide jobs. NDP leader Ed
Broadbent, said Ms. Bolton,
has said that all that party's
proposed program would cost
$1 billion. Most of that money.
said the Huron -Bruce can-
didate would be to put people
back to work.
Putting the federal
economics question in
perspective with the local
economy. Ms. Bolton said if
farmers received a "fair
return" on their labor, there
wouldn't he the financial
crisis there is across the
country.
Some methods of solving
the farmers economic woes,
said Ms. Bolton, are to create
a central selling agency for
red meat and to ensure
farmers greater access to
lower cost loans. The can-
didate said Canada needs a
government that is sensitive
to the economist conditions of
Valerie Bolton
,1
farmers.
However, she stresses that
not only a farmer, but small
business people should have
the same access to lower cost
loans as do the large
corporations.
The NDP, said the Huron -
Bruce candidate, would also
"restrict the powers of the
bank to force farmers out of
business".
Ms. Bolton becomes impas-
sioned when speaking on
women's issues.
"The New Democrats will
ensure an active and
systematic enforcement of
equal pay for work of equal
value legislation, she sates.
"We've got to take action
immediately. (Prime
Minister John) Turner has
said he prefers to negotiate on
the basis of good will. We
have waited 20 years for that
good will," said Ms. Bolton.
Continuing on the subject of
equality in the work force for
women, the mother of two
said women can't wait until
there is an economic upswing
before they receive equal pay.
Ms. Bolton says, of course,
both non -working men and
women should be able to con-
tribute to the Canada Pension
Plan.
When asked for her opinion
on pornographic material, the
NDP candidate answered
there are two major issues
facing women in today's
society. The first is economic
equality and the second is the
violence to women in society,
she said.
Most people aren't aware of
the repulsive stress of por-
nographic material said Ms.
Bolton.
"We've legislated against
other hale literature and we
must legislate against this,"
said Ms. Bolton referring to
pornographic material as
hate literature not only
against women, but the male
and female child. She added
that pornography is as in-
sulting to men as it is tp
women.
Ms. Holton said one of the
most important freedoms
people have is the control of
their own bodies. And women
should have the right to
decide the number and spac-
ing of their children, she said
in giving her opinion on
abortion.
As a mother, she knows the
kind of commitment needed
to raise children.
While she does talk pro -
choice views, Ms. Bolton adds
that their should also •be
research on "quality and ef-
fective" birth control as well
as an adequate education on
birthcontrol for young
people.
If elected as MP, Ms.
Bolton said she would take the
concerns, issues and needs of
the Huron Bruce riding to the
national level.
"As a community
organizer, 1 have knowledge
of what makes a community
health and strong," said the
NDP candidate.
She would, said Ms. Bolton,
encourage the community
members to support one
another in problems and work
together to make necessary
changes in government.
specific jobs, they should be
able to fullfill them and ex-
pect the same pay as a man.
The problem, he said is that
people's attitudes can't be
changed overnight. He said
the government should pro-
vide the lead in equal pay for
work of equal value.
On the question of non-
working women contributing
to the Canada Pension Plan,
McDonald said it would have
to be instituted properly. Ne
added that such an addition to
the CPP would have to be pro-
perly funded.
"I don't believe any govern-
ment can offer carte blan-
che," said McDonald
reiterating the statement on
balancing society's needs
with society's ability to pay.
On legislating pornographic
material, McDonald said he
supports the concept in prin-
ciple, while acknowledging
that the definition of por-
nography is different for each
individual.
He said Liberals generally
believe in the freedom of in-
dividuals but that freedom, he
noted, can be abused.
Abortions should not be
allowed on demand, said
McDonald in response to a
question on the subject. He
said abortions should not be
treated as birth control.
The candidate doesn't favor
any loosening of the current
laws on the subject and sug-
gests that the current laws be
enforced more stringently.
Raised on a beef, hog and
cash crop farm, McDonald
recognizes the problems fac-
ing the farm community.
"There is no question that
there has to be made
available better long and
short term financing in
agriculture," he said.
McDonald said he supports
the concept of agribonds in
principle. He noted that
federal agriculture minister
Ralph Ferguson is looking in-
to the concept.
As for voluntary tri -partite
stabilization, McDonald said
if its what the majority of pro-
ducers want then it should be
set up.
When questioned on finan-
cial institutions dealing with
farmers in financial difficul-
ty, McDonald suggested each
case has to be treated
individually.
Admitting that in some
cases farmers were en-
couraged by financial institu-
tions to get bigger thus having
to borrow money, McDonald
said it isn't fair that at the
first sign of trouble the finan-
cial institutions close in.
However, he added that he
grew up learning that if a
dollar is borrowed it is sup-
posed to be paid back.
In general, McDonald said
he is committing himself 100
percent to be an MP. He
speaks about being accoun-
table to the people of Huron -
Bruce and said if elected he
would have bpen meetings
with contituents on a regular
basis.
Speaking on the national
election campaign, par-
ticularly patronage appoint-
ments, McDonald said the ap-
pointments aren't the result
of new jobs. He added that the
people appointed were
originally elected by their
constituents.
The Liberal candidate
pointed a finger at the Ontario
Tories.
"Mr. Davis has it
(patronage appointments)
down to a fine art," he said.
Although a young can-
didate, he sees his age as a
strength because of the
energy and ability he could
bring to the MP position.
"It's not a 40 hour a week
job," he said.
and less.
Cardiff said he also believes
in merit increases and
wouldn't want the merit in-
creases to be eliminated if
employers would be limited to
equal pay for work of equal
value.
The concept of non -working
women contributing to the
Canada Pension Plan is one
supported by the Conser-
vative candidate. It has to be
worked out with the pro-
vinces, particularly Quebec
as it has its own pension plan,
notes Cardiff.
He doesn't support the sale
of pornographic material but
countered that comment with
the note that some people will
say they have the right to
watch or read whatever they
want in the privacy of their
home.
The MP points to the stand
he took against Playboy
scheduling on Pay TV. He
said he had received
numerous letters from consti-
tuents on the subject so he
took a stand opposing the
programming.
Cardiff supports the cur-
rent laws on abortion and
says they should be adhered
to. He acknowledges that
there is a need for better
education of birth control.
Cardiff feels there has been a
"flagrant abuse of abortions,
maybe not in this area but in
larger urban centres."
Cardiff does support the
Agri -Bond concept as one was
to finance the agriculture
sector.
On farm financing, the
Huron -Bruce MP said the
Farm Credit Corporation
(FCC) has to be turned
around. He notes that the FCC
used to provide about 70 per-
cent of capital funding for
farmers and now that figure
is at less than 35 percent.
Cardiff supports tripartite
stabalization as a volunteer
program believing it is impor-
tant that the federal and pro-
vincial government as well as
the producer contribute
equally to such a program.
He again emphasized the
need for developing foreign
export markets to give a shot
in the arm to the farming
economy.
Recognizing the fact that
some farmers have faced
financial difficulty, some to
the point of bankruptcy, Car-
diff feels there are ways to
assist the financially strapped
farmer.
He would like to see a finan-
cial review board set up to
assist farmers facing finan-
cial difficulty before they go
into receivership.
Third party involvement, to
come between the farmer and
a financial institution if there
is difficulty, would be a step
in the right direction. The
third party could open up
communications between the
farmer and financial
institutions.
"Farmers are hard
workers and they will pay
their debts if given a chance,"
said Cardiff admitting he has
acted as a third party for
constituents.
Cardiff pushed party plat-
form noting that Revenue
Canada has to be revised to
become more responsible to
the public.
"It has to get back to the
rule that people are innocent
until proven guilty," said
Cardiff.
As MP, Cardiff found
himself involved in hundreds
of projects from getting
grants for community centres
to his involvement with
research on world trade.
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