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Times -Advocate, September 17, 1986
Ice time at ree eentre' r•sn.Ias of impasse
Board's debate halted
After a lengthy debate on ice time
at the rec centre, chairman Jim
Workman cut off discussion on the
topic at Wednesday's board meeting
because none of the members had
presented a motion to debate.
"We're just shooting the breeze,"
Workman commented, adding that
the discussion over the complaints
about ice time allotment being aired
by some groups was only frustrating
to the members.
The discussion centre around news
reports that the Exeter men's rec
hockey league would fold rather than
accept the ice schedule offered by the
board.
However, it was noted that no one
from the rec league had officially
made that decision known to board
members or staff.
That prompted Ken Oke to question
why there was any discussion being
held at all if in fact there had been no
disapproval from the league over the
board's latest ice time schedule offer.
"It's all based on presumption,"
added Peter Snell.
The five board members in atten-
dance at the September meeting had
moved to hold the discussion in
camera, but dropped that plan when
T -A editor Bill Batten questioned the
justification for not debating the issue
in public.
No report was received from the
facilities committee which had been
asked by the board to reconsider the
ice time for the rec league after of-
ficials had attended the August board
meeting to say the times were
unsatisfactory.
Snell asked if some negotiation had
taken place with the rec league at the
facilities committee session and
facilities manager Cam Stewardson
replied in the negative, advising that
the two groups had separate meetings
on the same night and the rec loop had
been told what the committee's latest
offer was.
He said the rec league also had a
meeting the following week and to his
knowledge they were still undecided
about plans for the current season.
They had been offered ice at Huron
Park, but preferred to stay in Exeter.
Twice during the debate, Workman
noted that the issue centred around
only one hour of ice time as the rec
players had been offered a schedule
that differed only by one hour from
what they had in the past. Original-
ly, they had been pushed back two
hours.
Pat Down noted that a similar
squabble over ice time in Chatham
had finally ended up at the council
table and had been settled by the
elected officials.
Workman said the same situation
may happen here too.
Ile said early meetings with the
various ice gruops had appeared to be
beneficial in that everyone had ap-
parently recognized the need for some
give and take in regards to ice time
requirements.
However, he said the phone calls
started shortly after the meeting as
groups made their needs known and
there was more take than give in
evidence.
Oke said something appeared to be
drastically wrong when there didn't
appear to be enough ice time to
satisfy groups and yet the board had
been unable to rent prime time on
Saturday evening.
He added that the board may have
to be more dictatorial in alloting
hours and it appears now that the
groups are dictating to the board.
A suggestion that future scheduling
be done with representatives from all
groups in attendance was termed "a
nice idea" by Stewardson, but he said
it was not practical.
Workman suggested that the board
may have to devise a scheme for the
future where groups rotate each year
to get a better split of the prime and
non -prime hours.
A concern expressed by rec direc-
tor Lynne Farquhar was that the cur-
rent squabble could have an adverse
effect on the rec centre, which she
noted relied on the public for
donations.
"We're not the good guys on the
block right now," she lamented.
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BIG DOLL RIDES — Doug and Deb Chappel propel
day's parade at the Kirkton Fall Fair.
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Council offer mediators
Members of the Exeter men's rec
league took their plea for better ice
time to Exeter council, Monday, but
after considerable debate ended up
only with the offer of some mediators
and the challenge that the current
conflict should be worked out to
everyone's satisfaction if at all
possible.
The services of former rec board
member Gaylan Josephson and clerk
Liz Bell were offered to the rec league
and the rec centre board and staff to
help reach some compromise over the
current situation.
Board rgrember Kathy Whiteford,
chairman of the facilities committee,
and facilities manager Cam Steward -
son were also in attendance at the re-
quest of Mayor Bruce Shaw so both
sides of the impasse could be
presented.
The rec league, represented by
Dave Urlin, Jeff Musser and Jamie
Gaul, presented a lengthy letter to
council outlining the fact that their
league is continually shifted to pro-
vide ice for other groups, despite the
fact they have never been subsidized.
The trio suggested that a simple
solution was to give them Thursdays
from 7:00 p.m. to midnight and shift
the current users of the 7:00 to 9:00
slot to different times so "the situa-
tion would be resolved".
However, Stewardson explained
that figure skating had some of that
time and it was at the end of one of
their blocks and it would be impossi-
ble for them to change coaching
schedules at this point in time or to
make use of a single hour on another
day.
After further debate in which the
rec league officials suggested minor
groups could use early morning hours
or the open Saturday evening time,
Stewardson said everyone had solu-
tions to the current problems that dic-
tated that others make adjustments.
He offered that opinion after the
delegation explained their members
were not willing to play Saturday
evening, Sunday mornings or after
midnight on week nights.
"Being objective there's no reason
why anyone can't play on Saturday
from 5:00 to 8:00 p.m.," Shaw
suggested_
Mrs. Whiteford said an increase in
demand for ice has created the cur-
rent problem and Shaw noted that
was ironic in that the board had pro-
moted the facility and had now end-
ed up with a problem.
She also noted that the Hawks and
Mohawks are waiting with baited
breath to take over any ice time that
may be relinquished if the rec league
folds or moves to another centre.
"If you don't want us, we'll get out
of town," Gaul commented.
Board member Dorothy Chapman
said it was not a matter of wanting or
not wanting groups, it was a matter
that a compromise had to be worked
out.
Mrs. Whiteford also said there was
no intent on the board's part to force
any group out, but adds that other
groups had made compromises this
year and the lone exception was the
rec loop.
Urlin retorted that the men's league
had only been advised what time was
left over for their use after other
groups had made their wishes known
and he was critical of the fact the
times kept being changed in the past
couple of seasons.
Councillor Ben Hoogenboom sug-
gested the board should cater to a
group willing to pay the full ice rate
and those looking for assistance from
the town should be asked to use hours
that are not prime.
Stewardson responded by saying
groups such as minor hockey
shouldn't be faulted just because
they're not as well off as the men's rec
league. -
Shaw finally ended the debate by say-
ing that council would like to see a
compromise and happy resolution to
the problem, adding that everyone
may have to give a little.
At the outset of the debate he had
informed the hockey players that the
rec board was an autonomous group
and council tried not to interfere.
"We won't over -ride the board," he
said, but added council could move to
replace them rather than tell the
board what to do.
Over 1,000
fair success
help makeKirkton
Gord Mills, Shawn Damen and Rudy
Broers.
The open class yearling winner was
Robert Damen and two year-old
winners were Blake Robinson, Todd
Robinson and Gord Mills.
In Sunday's demolition derby the
overall winner was Don Edgar from
Corey Auto Wreckers in London.
Other heat winners were Bob Phillips,
Glenn Pfaff and Al Renning. The con-
solation winner was John Denotter.
Winner of the $50 food voucher from
Staffen's Food Market was Lucille
McCurdy of Woodham.
Despite a rainy start at noon Satur-
day, the 1986 Kirkton Fall Fair turn-
ed into a real success with more than
1,000 persons attending the Sunday
demolition derby and fiddlers
jamboree.
Shortly before the 12 o'clock star-
ling time for the parade Saturday, the
skies cleared and a good afternoon of
fair fun was underway.
The fair was officially opened by
Blanshard reeve and Perth county
warden Ron Denham. He was
assisted by fair president Shirley
Brintnell, MPP Hugh Edighoffer,
MP's Murray Cardiff and Harry
Brightwell, Ontario Agriculture
Societies president Leonard Patter-
son and district eight officials Elvy
Broadhagen and Aleda Murray.
Hugh Edighoffer said he was atten-
ding the Kirkton Fair for the 19th con-
secutive year. He also brought
regrets from Agriculture Minister
Jack Riddell who was unable to
attend.
In the parade junior float winners
were the Reg McCurdy family, as the
Woodham Hillbillies, McGregor
Gardens from the O'Shea Farms and
Mary Jones, the worlds greatest
grandmother with her family of Red
Cross nurses,
Winners in the clown division were
Andrea Francis, Carrie Oke and
Jayne Rowe and Sharon Doupe and
Tina Mills as the Rainbow Girls from
the Kirkton Market and Hiram
Walker.
Taking prizes in the commercial
section were the Kirkton Market, the
Kirkton Women's Insitute, lfardeman
Feeds and McGregol"s Gardens.
Riding the best decorated bicycles
were Lesley Zwann, Bridget Bradford
anx Janine Ellis while decorated float
winners were the Kirkton Women's
institute. the Thames Road Guild and
the K -W Winter Carnival.
The best horses and rider prizes
went to Michael and Tammy
Richardson and comic vehicle
awards went to Don Richardson of the
Kirkton Optimists and Scott's
Elevators of Lucan.
The annual pet show drew a large
number of enthusiastic entries from
area youngsters. Winners were Jamie
O'Shea, Mike Ledermueller, Sarah
Eghoetz, Greg and Peggy Young,
Sylvie Ledermueller, and Lynn
Ledermueller.
Winners in the five divisions of the
Can extend
maternity
Exeter has adopted a new materni-
ty leave policy which will enable
employees to take time off beyond
that which is now provided.
If requested in writing, at least four
weeks prior to the date of expiry of
her maternity leave, an employee
may receive a leave -of -absence
without pay for up to six months.
Credits for such things as sick leave
and holiday time will not accumulate
during the employee's absence.
It was also decided that the
municipality may continue to provide
coverage for benefits such as OHIP
and the dental plan, but that the
employee would reimburse the town
monthly for any benefits paid on her
behalf during the extra time off.
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baby show were Erin Robinson, Cody
Roger, Laura Switzer, Nathan Grant
and Lesley Ann Baxter.
Field crop judging winners were
Ken Bearss in corn, Albert Weernink
in wheat and Ron Grant with white
beans.
Gladys Cudmore was the overall
point winner in roots and vegetables
and Ron Grant took the same award
in grains and seeds. Joyce Strahan
was best in cut flowers, Ruth
Johnston won in house plants and fair
secretary Marianne Ferguson ex-
hibited the best plant.
Ruth Johnston was a double winner In the swine club competition,
taking most points tits canning and Steven Selves was the show champion
Helen Haynes was best in baking. and reserve championship was won
In the school fair section, Jared by Blake Robinson. In the confirma-
French was Pumpkin Patch prince tion division Susan Selves was the
and princess was Holly Zwaan. The winner and reserve champ was Todd
school baking queens were junior An- Robinson.
drea French and senior Karen Foster. In the sale which followed the show,
Shirley Kerslake gained the most Staffen's Food Market purchased
points in ladies work, Florence Heard Steve Selve's champion for $2.05 a
exhibited the best quilted items, pound and the reserve cpion of
Marilyn Stephen showed the best Blake Robinson went t rWooham
quilt, Joan Robinson was tops in Meat Market for $1.45 per pound.
crafts and hobbies and Beth Williams The 4-H calf club overall champion -
was the teens work winner. ship winners were Todd Robinson,
Riddell and Elston
go separate ways
Huron's two cabinet ministers will
not be going head to head in a battle
for the riding nomination when
Premier David Peterson calls the
next election.
Under changes made in area
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WOODHAM HILLBILLIES — The Woodham Hillbillies were judged
the best junior flout in Saturday's Kirkton Fair parade. From the left
are Reg, Jason and Jeff McCurdy and Darryl Brine. T -A photo
KIRKTON FAIR BEST — Winners were declared in five divisions in Saturday's Kirkton Fall Fair baby\
show. From the left are Erin Robinson and mother Joan, Cody Roger and his mother Darlene, Laura
Switzer and motller Leslie, Nathan Grant and mother Rosemary and Lesley Ann Baxter and her mother
Sheila. 1 IT • photo
ridings through redistribution, both
Agriculture Minister Jack Riddell
and Health Minister Murray Elston
found themselves sitting in the same
riding.
Thursday night, Elston announced
he would seek the Liberal nomination
in the Bruce riding and yesterday
Riddell said he would contest the
Huron nomination.
Riddell's executive assistant, Jim
Fitzgerald, said the announcement
was not being made in the light of any
pending election and he expected
Peterson would follow through on his
pledge to maintain the present accord
with the NDP through until at least
next June.
When asked again if there was any
talk of an immediate election around
Queen's Park, F'itzgerald replied, '
"Golly, not that I know of ".
WIN AT DARTS
Alex Jackson recorded a high
score of 147 for the men and ladies
high score of 132 was recorded by
Amanda Hamilton in F'riday's
regular action in the Exeter Legion
mixed dart league.
This week's scores were:
Lost Flights 5 McGrundys 0
Shiphunters 4 (kid Ones 1
Swat 4 Itchy Niters 1
Scotties 3 The ll's 2
Canseofts :1 Outlaws 2
Salt and Pepper 3 011te's Hest 2
Southenders ;1 'l'ratlers 2
I).l's :1 Sunni's 2
F'riday's sehed}tte is
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Odd Ones vs Oullatws
Smurfs vs McGrundyv
Ca nscotts vs Sa11 and Pepper
011ie's Best vs Shtphunters
9:30pnt
Itchy Niters vs 'Trailers
Lost Flights vs The II's
Swat vs Scotties
DJ's vs Southenders
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SERVICE
TRANSFUSION
ELF AND ANGEL --- Appearing in Saturday's Kirkton Fair parade as
an angel and elf were Janine and Greg Ellis. T -A photo
KIRKTON CLOWNS -- Appearing as clowns in Saturday's Kirktor
Fair parade were Andrea Francis, Jayne Rowe and Carrie Oke anc
they won a red ribbon. T -A phots