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Lengthy debate
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Times -Advocate, April 8, 1981
Knapps still seek zoning cha
No decision has yet been
reached in the re -zoning of
property owned by E.G. and
J. Knapp adjacent to their
amusement park. Knapp's
representatives John Brock
and Toby Tyler have been
attending planning board
and council meetings since
January, requesting that two
lots behind their amusement
park be changed from
residential to special com-
mercial to. allow for the ex-
pansion of their park.
The request has been turn-
ed down twice by the village
planning board. After the
first rejection the village
council returned the request
to the planning baord for
further consideration. The
matter has been now
referred back t'o council.
At Monday night's
meeting of Grand Bend
council Knapp. Brock and
Tyler once again brought in
blue prints and a scale
model of their plans. Brock
outlined their requests for
council. He said that the four
buildings in the amusement
park had reached "economic
obsolescence", and they will
be replaced by one large air
conditioned enclosed
building. To make such an
renovation economically
feasible, Brock said that
they would have to expand
their park to allow for more
and bigger rides.
He requested that two lots
behind the park, now vacant
and owned by Knapps, be re-
zoned form residential to
limited commercial to allow
for a "Kiddy City". He also
asked that part of Gibbs
Hear complaints on sewer bills
Billing for the new sewage
system has already resulted
in several complaints from
taxpayers in Grand Bend. At
Monday night's council
meeting requests for
clarification or changes in
the sewer billing were heard.
Van Laughton attended the
meeting to 'discuss his
property at the corner of
Main Street and Morenz
Lane. Laughton said that he
had been billed on the entire
frontage of property, and he
wanted to point out that they
were two separate parcels of
land. He said that he should
only have to pay for the 24
foot frontage on the property
where his former law office
is located.
Laughton said that the
other piece of property was
on the river bank, there
would never be a building
Located on it, and therefore
no sewer connection was
needed.
Council decided to review
Laughton's situation and
make a decision at their next
meeting.
Written sewer complaints
from Robert May and Harold
Klopp were found to be
correct, and the adjustments
made.
Complaints in the billing
were also received in writing
from Lawrence Johnson,
Carol Spence and George
Kadlecik.
In connection with the
sewer work, council
discussed the re -paving of 81
Crescent and Gill Road.
Harold Green reported that
while the construction
company is required to
restore the streets to the
condition they were in before
the sewer installation, they
felt that some additlonal
work was required.
Green said that he had
been advised that the
Ministry of Transportation
and Communication were
recommending 12 inch storm
sewers for 81 Crescent which
would cost about 17,500. In
addition 14,000 would be
needed for heads and in-
sulation, 110,000 for asphalt,
12,400 for grading, 16,000 for
curbs and gutters, and $6,000
for engineering. This would
be a total of 136,000, and the
construction company would
subtract the 15,000 that It
would have cost to restore
the road. An additional $4,000
inspection fee would be
charged, bringing the total to
135,000.
"That's an awful lot of
money to get rid of that
water problem," councillor
Keith Crawford replied. It
was decided that the
question would be referred to
the budget deliberation, and
discussed at the next sewer
liaison meeting.
In other business:
Council voted to petition
the Ministry of Revenue to
authorize the Lambton
County Assessment office to
proceed with the second
phase of the tax impact
study. Assessment com-
missioner Robert Riddell
attended the meeting to
discuss the study which
will look into tax changes.
Reeve Robert Sharen told
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mittee had received a letter
from the firemen requesting
a joint meeting. Sharen said
that the committee, con-
sisting of himself, Allen
Walper of Stephen and Bill
Lindsey of Bceanquet, will
meet with the firemen when
they are provided with a list
of concerns, Sharen also said
that he had been looking into
costs of expanding the
present firehall or building a
new firehall. He said that
they will hire a consulting
firm to come up with some
plans.
Council agreed to an ad-
ditional 11500 on the price of
the land purchased for the
new cemetery. The cost will
be shared equally by Grand
Bend, Stephen and
Bosanquet. The price In-
crease resulted when the
seller, Lee Jennison agreed
to give up a right-of-way
over the property.
Council received a letter
from the Rice Group,
developers of Grand Cove
Estates, asking about sewer
rates. Council decided that
the Cove area should be
charged double for sewer
installation because they are
not part of the village, and
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BY MARY ALDERSON
It appears as if Sarnia tax-
payers and trustees are now
viewing the school closing
issue as a city versus county
battle. Sarnia-ites feel they
are hard done by, because
two more of their schools
are slated to be closed down,
while no county schoolshave
yet been closed.
One trustee has even
suggested that the county is
getting preferential treat-
ment over the city.
To Grand Bend residents,
the idea is inconceivable.
Since the creation of county
boards in the late 60's,
Grand Bend has been a dis-
tant out -post. If any schools
have preferential treatment
it seems to be city schools,
from Grand Bend's point of
view.
The city trustees on the
board of education are out-
numbered by the county
trustees, and apparently,
some of them feel they are
being pushed around. The
board voted at their last
meeting to close Lochiel and
Woodland schools, while a
study committee
recommended that Kin-
naird, Bosanquet and Grand
Bend schools remain open.
The voting on these north
county schools will take
place at their next meeting
April 13.
One city trustee even went
so far as to insinuate that
because city residents are
paying higher taxes, they
are subsidizing the county
schools.
Well, I'd like to remind
them about their vandalism
problem in the city. City
schools are repeatedly van-
dalized and the damage is
extensive. • Hanna Memorial
School in Sarnia for exam -
pie, has been plagued by
break-ins and the destruc-
tion is horrendous.
In the meantime, van-
dalism is non-existent at
Grand Bend, Bosanquet and
Kinnaird schools. We in the
county resent paying our
education taxes to cover
such a senseless and stupid
expense.
Also, the city trustees who
want to make this a city
against county fight should
be reminded that the north
of Lambton has already lost
two schools. Schools were
closed in both the villages of
Thedford and Arkona, and no
one suggested that the city
should close down an equal
number of schools at that
time.
But it is ridiculous to try to
compare a city and a county
school. While there is money
to be saved by closing down
Woodland and Lochiel
schools, our study com-
mittee was unable to pin-
point any actual savings by
closing down either Kinnaird
or Grand Bend school. Costs
for more bussing, the ex-
pense of maintaining the
empty building, and wages
for keeping the staff busy
elsewhere would almost out-
weigh any savings, it would
appear.
With the closing of Lochiel
and Woodland schools, no
children will have to be buss-
ed. In fact, no child will walk
more than .6 of a mile.
However, if Grand Bend or
Kinnaird schools are closed,
it would mean hour long bus
rides for some children. And
if Grand Bend is closed, at
least 70 children who are
now walking to school would
have to be bussed.
The closing of a city school
would not create the loss
that would be created by the
closing of a school in a
village or rural community.
As has been said so many
times, if Grand Bend school
closes, the village loses a
very active community cen-
tre, not to mention library.
In the Kinnaird area that is
even more true, for the
school is the only thing
holding their community
together.
The trustees who are look-
ing only at the dollars and
cents of school closing are
attempting to run the
educational system as a
business. They must be
reminded that children are
not just a product to be
packaged and boxed.
Nor should the trustees
divide city against county in
a silly "one for you one for
me" game. Comparing city
and rural school doesn't
work.
It's very disturbing to see
an issue as important as
school closings dragged
down to a trustee's political
toy. The education of very
real children is at stake, and
it seems to have been
forgotten.
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their taxes have not gone
towards sewer installation.
"If they want regular rates,
maybe that's a subtle way of
saying they want to join the
village," councillor Keith
Crawford responded.
Council confirmed that
they would be donating 8250
towards the construction of a
cairn for the Eric Mcllroy
memorial.
The hiring of Scott Flear,
Bill Vandenbygaart and
Michael Miller for the
summer works staff was
approved.
Councillor Dennis Snider
reported that the dock-
master "resigned before he
was hired". At their last
meeting, council accepted
the application of Tom
Micks, however, he declined
before the job started. They
are now seeking another
dockmaster.
Snider reported that work
on rebuilding the docks will
begin Monday, and the work
on the new washrooms and
showers in the parking lot
behind the village hall is
nearly complete.
Council voted to endorse a
petition from West Nissouri
township encouraging the
provincial and federal
governments to put natural
gas pipelines throughout
southwestern Ontario.
Council authorized the
purchase of second adding
machines for the village
office.
Council gave their support
to the "Thankful tankful"
campaign, whereby Esso
will give two cents per litre
of gasoline sold on Saturday
to the Easter Seal fund.
Harold Green asked that
everyone "fill -up"
Lane be closed, and that
Knapps be given relief from
having to provide the 38
parking spaces called for in
the village's bylaw.
Brock then listed the com-
plaints that had been receiv-
ed from near -by residents in
Gibbs Park. He said that
noise was the concern of the
residents, but said that it
would no longer be a
problem because the new
building would be enclosed,
not open air, as theold ones
had been. He said that any
loud speakers would be fac-
ing out onto Main Street.
He noted that they would
be putting a Kiddy City in to
the area next to the residen-
tial areas, because it is the
quietest section of the park.
This area would be closed
down at 9:30 on weekdays,
and 10:30 weekends, he said.
Brock said that while they
would like to see a section of
Gibbs Lane closed off, they
are willing to dedicate 20
feet of land to the village to
widen Lakeside Circle. He
added that Knapps would be
willing to contribute to the
purchase of land in the
downtown area to establish a
parking lot.
Brock said that while
some residents feared the
expansion of the park would
decrease their property
values, he thought the
renovations should increase
property values.
Brock stated that the
benefits would outweigh any
of the concerns. He listed in-
creased employment oppor-
tunities at the park, and an
increased,assessment for
the villlage as two of the
benefits. He said at present
the property is assessed in
the $10,000 range, and that
assessment would increase
to $20,000 after the changes.
He pointed out that at pre-
sent they are paying about
$2500 in taxes, but with the
expansion they would be pa-
ing $5,000.
In addition. Brock said
that the renovations at
Knapps would be a stimulus
to further revitalization of
Main Street. "It's a mul-
tiplier effect, to keep up with
the Jones." he said.
He added that with the
new building. they hope to
extend the season, and that
the proposed rides would at-
tract more people to the
village.
A lengthy discussion
followed Brock's presenta-
tion. Deputy reeve Harold
Green and councillor Dennis
Snider both said that while
they liked Knapp's
proposals. they feared that
by making two residential
lotscommercial, they would
be establishing a precedent,
and more lots in Gibbs Park
would go commercial.
Snider said that he would
like to support the proposal,
but he was concerned about
the future. "It makes me
sick, but tonight I would
have to vote against it," he
said. Snider said that he
wanted more information
about the legality of rulings
council could make to pre
vent further zoning changes.
Reeve Robert Sharen ask-
ed council to make a deci-
sion. "Knapps have the right
to know our position," he
said. He pointed out that the
Knapps have spent a lot of
time and money on the plan-
ning, and that council should
return the courtesy.
After further debate it was
decided to hold a joint
meeting of council, Knapps
and the village solicitor to
determine the legalities of
future zoning changes. After
council is advised of what
arrangements they can
make, they will then vote on
the zoing changes.
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Tne completion of the
sewage system seems to
have encouraged many
village businesses to up-
grade, expand and renovate.
Several proposals were put
before council for various
changes.
Councillor Dennis Snider
was appointed to look into
any requests for site plan
agreements. Council decided
that it was important that
one member visit the sites of
the proposed changos.
Harold Klopp of t h e
Colonial Hotel visited coun-
cil to ask for permission to
put an expansion on his
hotel. He pointed out that
since septic tanks are no
longer needed. he now has
room to expand. Council
waived the site plan re-
quirements.
nae
Klopp also asked that his
properties - The Colonial
and The Gables — be deem-
ed as one parcel. Council
will request planner Janet
Giles to prepare the bylaw.
Council also waived site
plan requirements on a re-
quest from Nick Carter of
the Sun Shop. Carter said in
a leiter to council that he
will be putting living accom-
modations at the rear of the
shop, and parking spaces
will be provided.
Council looked at site
plans provided by Ross
Wells and Rick Lobsinger
for river front property,
Erwin Schottroff for propos-
ed expansion at Pinedale
Motel, and Ron Martin of
Beach Golf for the proposed
water slide.
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