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HomeMy WebLinkAboutLakeshore Advance, 2011-11-23, Page 66 LakeshoreWednesday m.. Egineer's comments heat up meeting Lynda Hillman -Replay Lakeshore Advance The north sewer adhoc meeting became heated last week as a member of the gallery asked for an in camera session regarding a legal issue. The Lakeshore Advance was informed the committee will seek a legal opinion on the assertions. The adhoc group was formed after mem- bers of the community voiced their concern regarding a lack of answers when it came to a collection system from Southcott Pines to the Ausable Cut. The ad hoc committee is subject to the control and direction of the council. In their terms of reference it states, "The Committee will review the issue pertaining to the extension of waste water services to the residents and businesses of Zone 3 and 4, as identified in the Munici- palities of Lambton Shores, Bluewater and South Huron Grand Bend and Area Sanitary Sewage Servicing Master Plan" Council appointed the committee composed of residents and members of Council to study the issue of sanitary sewer services. The committee was split into five groups that would investigate; need for improved sanitary sewage treatment, cost/benefit of the sewer treatment facility, and collection system, future options of sewage treatment, taxation and user fee issues and communi- cation with taxpayers. At last week's meeting correspondence of Lambton Shores LIVING IN LAMSTON SHORES... Aa. Ltd* cereArco &witsbyour Convorrty Admin stret on Department - 7683 Amts400m Parkway, Forest, Ontario NON 1J0 Tel 1-077.788.2335, 519.786.2335, Fax 519.786.2135, Emal administrabonOlambtonshwes at Visit our Web Site M www Wnbronshoree re Lambton shores COMPOST SITE CLOSING Weather permitting the Lomblon Shores Compost Site, located adjacent to the Forst Wastawster Treatment Plant wd9 remain open and Wednesday, November 30th The last day to pkk up compost and wood clips or to dispose of leaves and brush MAI be Wednesday, November 30". rlteminder about Fall Leaf Burning" Rowena v. soled to OW are 1 you aro *wog to tun naves, unNMnded ares care to weed b taw amou bac Io 575000 in idle termer Mee* of Grand bend a bun psemR le "wand tot Winans leaves Man Mwnslrw Io Man honing Pa likowcamlay wi pick up sl MN baps wag November 28, 2011 to a 11 25 stags (WI a Mandard portage bap teal lavas must be in der *roc baps and placed a be fids d be road on your nammmi Wags pickup day Lamas ,n nal to be awed to be ends of the Want. as toe s a drrpwvw practice Inst can ausa tankers trainees emblems and be the muss of Mc acadrao CHANGE OF DATE FOR THE DECEMBER COMMITTEE OF ADJUSTMENT MEETING OWNER'S REQUEST FOR REPAIR & MAINTENANCE Of MUNICIPAL DRAINS Plans are underway for IM 2012 Munidpd Drain Maintenance Program, and property owners Within the Mulidpalty of lanblon Shores ve asked 10 review Municipal Dram on their property, and submit requests ax any drain repot and maintenance prior to December 02, 2011 Forms we aveleble N the lemblon Sham - Northville Of ce at 6575 Pal Fronk* Road, a on the lambbn Shag' *Male Further Information an be provided by contacting Al LISe, Drainage Superintendent N 519-243.1400 Phase address requests to Municipality of Lambton Shores 9675 Pon Franks Road, R R. 91, Thed1ord, Ontario NOM 2N0 Attention Al LNtie, Dreknps Superintendent C Clay is Coming to Town t50nt0 Sant, WI bs attendance NIM Annual Santa Claw Parades In Fonar, SatAMday, NowMer to commandos N 7.00 p m & pan in TMdfd, Saturday, December Y` at 630 p m Please be advised 1Ml in order to accomodate these parades road closures Mil be in effect FINAL TAX DUE DATE The Met tax Installment not 2011 Is Wednesday, November 30", 2011. Payments may be made by mat, Internet or telephone banking, In person at any of the 3 offices or by Pre-Autllorired withdrawal - forms aro available at the Municipal Offices err on our webefte -www.lemblonfhWnes ca Attention Community Groups: 2012 Grants The Lytton Shan Connolly of y 0 w9 A1plioa9on tam le now available on the Municipal webslle M 7071.1106i920/09117S1 AppkW on none ve eta enviable In had Dopy at any tartan Shah Municipal office Coreltred sppbos5on lows must bs Walled by Decent* 31, 2011 and can dropped oA N any lwmbbn Shores Municipal Mice or mated to The Municipality of Lambie+ Sham, Oonwmunb Sentries Depatmere Ater, Facilitator or Raorestlon and Leisure 9675 Pod Franks Road. RR 1, Thedlord, ON NOM2N0 9 you have any quotiane or Concerts about the pmt leptioation arm or the gram apgloMon emcees. peas contact the Cannuay Sanross Department at 1160943.1400 Committee of Adjustment ... TM Lambkin Shores Committee of Add stmerl WA De considering the fallowing matters N 1M Thuredey, NaalNt 94*, 2911, plewtg. 716 Ala - Mors INssawfesl - A471f1111 Carss~4 - 11113 W00%rwrd Avenue, Grand Bend 716 p m. - M Cann 11d4Ih Ins, Asset ser Rise DweLrssn Comma Inc. - A461111 Cast - 77 Morn Stool, Eat Orsnd Bend 116 p.m - Dat UNn I I - A4111.11- Wax Violeta* -1771 bran Stent Uma VWy Grave Flaw copies of the notices toe Brae app9oNlors w avalbls on the Municipal Webelle or an be obtained by ceiling the Forest office N 766-2335 or 1177. 1$63335 The meetings we held N the Thedlord Aga Complex, comer of Mein and Pearl Streets, Thedtofd Wart from residents was received and report updates from the five groups were discussed and will be detailed at a future public meeting. It was during discussion period where the meeting became heated. Gerry Rupke, a former Lambton Shores councillor and a registered professional engineer, addressed council and reported his qualifications include a (P Eng.) Bach- elor's degree in Chemical engineering from the University of Waterloo and a Master's degree in Environmental health Engineering from the University of Texas in Austin, Texas. Ile told the committee this was his first opportunity to attend a meeting. Ills questions led to Deputy Mayor Elizabeth Davis Dagg suggesting he was attacking their value. Rupke first asked if anyone on the com- mittee has looked at the Ontario govern- ment's Technical Guideline for Individual on-site Sewage Systems: Water Quality Impact Risk Assessment. After a pause, committee chairman Carl Belke said he had not heard of it. Rupke explained this was the Ministry of Envi- ronment's "bible." Belke said they have been trying unsuccessfully to meet with the Ministry of Environment (MOE). Rupke read from the MOE document and highlighted the ruling that while one can contaminate the water that falls from the sky onto your lot, one cannot contami- nate the water that is under the ground. "You talk in your reports about concen- tration but that is meaningless. All the Ministry cares about is: are you using more than your share. clow much water you contribute - how much nitrate you contribute and that's all - no other questions." Ile offered to leave the document with this body. Rupke's Three Questions Rupke then asked about this group's terms of reference inquiring as to why they were doing the work the consultant already did. "Why was this committee formed?" he asked, suggesting Dillon already did the work. Ne asked why there was not a peer review to which Deputy Mayor Elizabeth Davis Dagg suggested that was something the last council could have done. "The last council did not see a need for a review," said Rupke. Davis Dagg said the reason for the committee was due to the "serious misun- derstandings that have arisen in this com- munity." She said the misunderstandings were a result of things in Dillon's work. Davis Dagg said they want to come back with answers. She then accused Rupke of attacking this group, insinuating there was no value to their existence. Rupke said he was merely seeking answers. Rupke then asked if this group was planning on evaluating options to provide sewage treatment systems to Grand Bend. "Does this committee plan to evaluate options - for sewage treatment to Grand Bend?" Belke said "yes" and Davis Dagg said "absolutely" Rupke asked if they will advise council on how to proceed. Belke said a report of these findings will go hack to'counc:il. "If this is the case, 1 would like to address council in camera," Rupke said, Davis Dagg asked if this was a legal issue to which Rupke said yes. Davis Dagg said she did not feel that this was their (thi committee) responsibility to deal will. legal issues. "A legal issue with whom?" asked committee member Ernie Lewis. "With yourself? With Professional Engineer's Association Let's just say it is a legal issue. If you wish I can elaborate - and then it won't be in camera," Rupke responded. Sonie members of the committee sug- gested it was not the body to deal with legal matters. In a point of order from the gallery, resident Bob Sharen said since the group is a committee of council, the same procedural rules apply and this was verified by CA(.) John Byrne. You talk in your reports about concentration but that is meaningless. All the Ministry cares about Is: are you using more than your share. How much water you contribute - how much nitrate you contribute and that's all - no other questions. — Gerry Rupke, a former Lambton Shores councillor Not deterred by their indecision as to whether they should go behind closed doors, Rupke said if they wished, he could elaborate and keep on talking without going into at closed session, Committee vice-chairman Richai Faber said Rupke had some interesting" questions." "You asked the committee if they were going to evaluate different treatment options," said Faber. "No we are not going to evaluate - we are not engineers. We are going to recommend to council for them to consider options - that's a little different. We are not pretending to he engineers - we are getting options and giving council advice, We are not evaluat- ing technical systems" Again Rupke suggested they go in camera. "If you don't wish that I will speak now," he offered, The committee chose to hold an in camera session it later reported to the Lakeshore Advance that legal advice would be sought on Rupke's assertions.