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BY PAT RAFT'S
SSP ,News Staff
The provincial government
announced approximately $6
billion in spending cuts in a
mini -budget released last
Wednesday. Hospitals ($1.3
billion)., municipalities ($658
million) and school boards
($400 million) were among the
most affected areas, facing a
total of $1.5 billion in cuts to
transfer payments next year. A
$2 per prescription "co -pay-
ment," for seniors and the poor
under the Ontario Drug
Benefit program was added. A
new commission will be creat-
ed in January to decide.which
hospitals across the province
will close or amalgamate.
Lakeshore Advance editor
Patrick Raftis of Signa! -Star
Publishing talked to Huron
MPP Helen Johns about the
cuts in a telephone interview,
Saturday.
Raftis: This budget state-
ment's going to escape one
criticism of previous measures,
that the cuts were all falling on
the poorer segment of the pop-
ulation. This seems like it's
going to affect everyone in the
province.
Johns: Yes. I think it's far
reaching. There's no question
about that.
Raftis: With the
Municipalities and the school
boards taking the hit that they
have are you anticipating that
they are going to have to raise
property taxes?
Johns: No, we've asked them
not to do that. We gave the
municipalities especially a lot
of notice. We let them know in
June or July right after the
election that this is the way we
would be going. So, most of
the municipalities around have
looked at opportunities and
alternatives and most of them
were pretty much prepared for
this.
I have been talking to some
of the municipalities and they
seem to have thought of some
ideas and have been imple-
menting some things. I know
there's also been some amalga-
mation talk between some
towns and townships and I
think that they're looking for
ways to not pass the tax on.
Everybody knows that the tax-
payers are full up with tax and
we can't really afford to
increase their taxes again.
Education cuts
Two views
BY JOHN GREIG
SSP News Staff
Two area school boards differ
greatly on their assessment of
Finance Minister Ernie Eves's
recent econ9mic statement.
James Brown, director of
education with the Huron -Perth
Separate School Board picked
out three reasons to be opti-
mistic. Eves said three titres
during his statement that
inequities between rich and
poor school boards will be rec-
tified.,
Paul Carroll, director of edu-
cation for the Huron County
Board of Education, said the
effect of a 9.9 per cent cutback
in provincial funding to school
boards will depend on how
school boards work with less
money.
"If we do it right, it won't
mean anything significant for a
child at any level," said Carroll.
"if we do it wrong it will mean
larger groups of children before
fewer teachers."
Carroll said he couldn't elab-
orate on too many ways in
which the board was going to
make up the shortfall without
affecting the classroom.
"We're talking about it with
the unions," he said.
The province announced a
Helen Johns, Huron MPP
the economy will start to
move, the tax cuts being one,
the province's economy being
Raftls: In fact, keeping the
tax burden down has been a
big part of the program. With
the cuts, we've talked a lot
about how we're trying to get
the deficit down. With what
you've cut so far, do you feel
comfortable that people really
are going to get the tax cut that
was talked about during the
election.
Johns: Yes, we still believe
that the tax cut has to come.
We believe the program is
multi -faceted of course and
what we've been doing up to
now is the first part. We
believe that we have to get
government spending under
control because that's part of it
and to do that we have to
reduce the size of the govern-
ment and the way it does busi-
ness. So that's what we've been
working on up until this point.
The next point is we have to
get some vitality back in the
economy so we can create
jobs. And, that's a major focus
for us now, trying to create
jobs. And one of the ways we
believe we can create jobs is
by reducing people's taxes and
getting them to spend more
money and if they spend more
money on indicators such as
cars and things like that it will
get the economy started again:
so that's what we really need to
have happen.
Raftis: You're banking a lot
on that being the thing that's
going to get the economy mov-
ing then, -- on the cut in
taxes?
Johns: Yes. And we believe
that, for a number of reasons,
in a much sounder base
because we're that much closer
to a balanced budget now. We
believe that also the vision that
the country is a little more sta-
ble after the referendum too
will help us. So there's a num-
ber of issues. It's not just the
spending and its not just the
tax cuts. It's a whole spectrum
of issues that allow us to
believe that we can get the
economy started a little bit.
Raftis: To move into the
health care area, the committee
that you're involved with, from
what I've been able to read it
looks like the Ministry of
Health under Bill 26 is going
to have the power to more or
less decide which hospitals
will be open and which will
close. Now, I know the last
time we talked about this area
you had said this is going to be
up to the local DHCs (District
Health Council's). Do you still
feel, given the statement, that
they are going to have that
kind of input as to whether the
local hospitals remain open or
not?
Johns: Yes. So what's going
happen was basically that the
District Health Council do the
planning, decide how the
community should go. And
then we will have a committee
implemented, still within the
community, that will imple-
ment the suggestions of the
District Health Council and
that group will be passed the
power to be able to move to
close hospitals. Because you
see what we're concerned
about is that if their funding
reduces to such a level, can
they provide adequate health
care? I mean, that's the last
thing we want is for there not
to be adequate health care
within a hospital or a
community. And so we want to
make sure that there's adequate
care there too, so that's one of
the reasons for it, but it all will
still be local community dri-
ven.
Raftis: I noticed there were
no, cuts to ,day, care,. child care
funds• in"Nle tbut lget. Did the
protests that wdre' organized
just beforehand have any
impact on that, or was it ever
on...
Johns: No. No. It was about
six weeks ago, we basically set
up a task force, way before the
protests, that would look at day
from different boards
cutback of 9.9 per cent to
school boards during its eco-
nomic statement last Thursday.
Cuts to education will save the
province $400 trillion.
The province also announced
another cut of 9.9 per cent in
1997. Carroll said the two cuts
will decrease the operating bud-
get of the board from $62 mil-
lion to $55 tnillion.
"We've been planning for a
10 per cent reduction since the
first of the year," said Carroll.
"We're still too late in planning
for such cutbacks. There are a
lot of 'drastic measures' we
should be studying."
"The real insane part in edu-
cation is that coupled with the
cutbacks is the grant system."
Carroll said the province sets
the largest chunk of the educa-
tion mill rate and that is beyond
the control of the local board.
But despite thc hardship
Carroll and his school board
will endure, he remains sup-
portive of the premise of the
Hams government.
"I commend Harris, Eves and
Snohelen for their efforts. We
have to fix this. I'm a parent of
two kids who will soon be
working age. My free ride for
the last 30 years could cause
them and their families hard-
ship."
Huron MPP Helen Johns said
in a phone interview the day
after the economic statement
she see the minister's promise
to equalize funding as positive.
"It's great news for Huron
County," she said. "Our kids get
substantially less than in
Toronto. Even if some money
comes our way, it's positive for
the county."
"If the minister addresses (the
unequal funding) issue, then the
whole budget statement is good
news," said Brown.
The local boards arc among
the lowest in the province in per
student spending. The Huron -
Perth Separate Board is the
lowest spending separate board
in the province at $4,598 per
child in 1994. The Huron public
board is the second lowest
spending public board in
province, at $5,186 per student
in 1994. To compare, the
Metropolitan Toronto School
Board spent $7,709 per student
in 1994.
"If you're going to contain
financial expenditures, you
don't go after the one with no
money," said Brown. "I have
great faith they will live up to
what they have said. And we
have great faith in Helen Johns
and (Perth MPP) Bert
Johnston."
care. It's to run under Janet
Eckert, who of course is from
the county here and is the
member from Durham. And
she's to look at day care and
how it needs to evolve and
where it needs to be. But that
report isn't out yet. We knew
that there wouldn't be anything
from day care until that reports
out and we have something
adequate for the parents of
young children in the province.
It's never our intention to try
and take away things when we
don't have an alternative. And
we need to have a good alter-
native for day care or, you
know, find out how it could
best work in the province.
Raftis: One last question for
you Helen, and I think it's
probably one every
Conservative has asked them-
selves. What is the difference a
user fee and a co -payment?
Johns: Well....that's a good
question Pat. I guess, we
believe a user fee is different. I
heard Ernie (Eves, finance
ministdr) speaking yesterday,
and he believes a user fee
relates to the ability to tap hos-
pitals and to use your health
care. They're calling this a co-
payment and I guess we're
calling it co -payment for two
reasons. First of all it's on
drugs. But secondly, with this
co -payment the money that is
being taken from the $2 per
prescription part and/or the
$100 (deductible) is being re-
invested right again on the
working class poor of Ontario
because we're opening the
Trillium (drug benefit) plan to
people who we call the work-
ing class poor of Ontario. So,
basically the people who are
being asked to put money from
their drugs, the $2, that money
will be re -invested so that peo-
ple who have never had health
care and have always suffered
the potential of having a health
illness and the prescriptions
destroy any kind of savings
they had will now be protected
also. So I guess the user fee
seems to me to come back into
the government, this co -pay-
ment is really used to help
other people get onto the plan
also.
Hay book delayed
Release of the much -
anticipated Hay 'Township
Highlights will take a bit
more time than originally
expected, but in turn, you're
going to get a much more
detailed volume of local and
family history at no extra
cost.
Because of the tremendous
response from local residents
who submitted many more
family histories than
originally anticipated, the
book has swelled from the
planned 400 pages and 500
photographs to 750 pages and
more than 1,400 photos.
While the deluge of family
histories has meant much
more work preparing the
book for printing, the stories
were too interesting to leave
out.
The original price for the
book hasn't increased by as
much as a penny, and copies
remain available for $55.
'We hoped to have the book
out for Christmas, but the
extra effort has meant a slight
delay, with publication now
anticipated early in the New
Year,' according to a recent
press release.
Many of the books have
been presold. if you planned
to put Ilay Township
Highlights under the
Christmas tree, or would like
to, gift certificates for the
book are available from
Donna Thiel (519) 2363060
and Lan McAllister (519) 236-
4034.
Provincial cuts will affect county operations
BY BLAKE PA'I"i'I RSON
SSP News Stall
At the Nov. 30 meeting of
County Council, Warden Bruce
Machan said the Nov. 29
provincial economic statement
will have a. major impact on
municipalities.
He said the parts of the state-
ment which will have a direct
impact on county operations
include: the reduction of road
grants and certain transportation
grants, the 40 per cent cut of
grants for municipal libraries,
the phase-out of grants for recy-
cling programs, the introduction
of legislation which will allow
municipalities to introduce
broad-based user fccs, and
changed rules concerning the
amalgamation of municipalities.
Machan said, "These arc a
few of the highlights, what's
missing is the details."
COURTHOUSE
RENOVATIONS
Machan said renovations of
the Huron County Courthouse
arc almost complete and all
county departments are now
moved hack into the facility.
Completion is still scheduled
for Dec. X and thc reopening
will he held sometime in
January.
Regarding recent speculation
that several court houses
throughout Ontario may soon
be closing, council agreed that
MPP Helen Johns and the
Attorney General of Ontario
would be contacted to commu-
nicate county concerns about
the potential economic and
social impact and efficiency of
justice which would be lost if
the county courts were closed.
RESIGNATION
Dennis Merrall resigned as
county engineer to accept a
position as county engineer of
Middlesex County.
His resignation is effective
Jan. 5.
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