HomeMy WebLinkAboutExeter Advocate, 1900-7-12, Page 10Els "will be found in Hansard, page,,052, Mr,
S'tftte,-�. Now, how does my hon. friend
Wl States wAsi diivefi out of the English
that f tbiiI%_in power; if not he,
tiiiie in this House a letter of His�, Grace
evcry one' 'knows. that hundr�do Of thou,
views still, We know that the Premicti; of
Does- the lion, gentleinan think, tut tila
u olunions,
Baia said iii the Ho' Be of 0
ccount for the fact that ui'Wr that, pot-
nuirket, by Canadian"cheose long beforo the
was v ign Milliste qnd, Hor Majo'sty,
the Duke of Devollsh,ire oil this gubject in
'
saildis of Mon. would be brought into the
Ausimba had agree(!, that fhcy had )pass-
9'
is:duo�tb this 0overnmelat..
When, )ve, do the best we c, uit
in and 1)
'Products'
-it tar iff hich he introduced
cy, under th, w
V fit a g"rand burst of loyalty, a. great fl6ur-
re�cieII06 was bat '19coll-
thought of, and, t
kancv' Attained under the
in lick, sPeooh, ati, the osing 0 Varliaillent,
respoll )ication -wbiOi
01 to a eorillirw had
been inade, to him by the Postmaster Qeo-
Dominion by a policy that would �ivo
Canadian products dpreferbhoe in file Elig-
e4.4 resolution aBld4i$ for'a eonlilliss-o
f Is' subj6 I n, on
It " ' of And who stopped: it, who
Th6' TdINISTJifft, OV RMLWAY A�Tl
Mr,,Blair). Yes.,
our natural on the E n9liSh
inarket in the best possible' Qoudilioll.
$I Qi trulll� pots as to, *11at I ice was (loing
I am
tive , rule ha's, happy to
A conferenco, was held at Ottawa, in
cral. That holl. gell iloinan sent that com.
1�sh markots over' the Products of foreign
blocked it, who preyented'anvthing* bein 9
HA 11 Let me r�
b Els TUPPE, R�
when we off6r' the best wility of
q,
Or Ellgh how does it turn out that at
-he ell(I of threT years you bave done noth-
t the Present
say, continued .0
time. So it is with ixIadift'll
Q
the mouth of June last, it which I.b.
ll' c lt�ltiVes of tile Imperial Gover
nnuileAtion without r0erring thO Matter
e,
countries, and every man brought into tliiq
dond? The ontiq rests on the right hon,
ie'l fou�e of what,the Prime, Mir
it6r v
ellcese, the finest grade of butter, fit()
file'st wheat tile world produces and
0 Your imports
1110 to increase t1lat tr�ad ?
'.LNlother,
bacon, As, I went throligh the stre6ts of
the Dominion of Canada, the
ill"I"'aivi
esy t o. Seeing that lip as sell ilig W at
has 8 0 i.
v6lk his pledge that tic i� u every
a oljj� C lavin e a) I.
hl
.put them ort her nlavlw t in the best
we liavoa guarantee that
have beoll tll(� same front thc. Qoun-
xy during' the three years that you have
'
,e
London, I in the large gro-
was glad. to sc
eery stoies, that Canadian chwie and Cana,
the Australian co'
Cape lonies met
to consdor questions rolatill t I t
n
u
p Vpo,ted
he
an Opinion ur 0 it, lz ,
TI t,
6 ti
power to, support this Policy.
tIAMB INIIS OFF
'1, 11 1911
sp
aid Le n
0 0 to a '0
men 0 Or, t tit
(,ondftion,ithon
44riglish dollars Will � collie to out*
the r
and come in ;I, legitimate pro -
)een in po-�vqr as during the Previous
three years before you cat . no in, Ou the
ality
dian bavon were rated of, far better qu,
and selling at a higher Price than th6
colonial tariffs alid-contiminio,%tions,
I' have learnt wNh satisfaction that
[IQ �Ie takell the tr� It
spopoli bofole sending i ille
aNi
st) t
to the Premiers? the Right
h. Chamberlain 'said;
ish � arm il; an't a� 11
sOntcd t4 il it lie �l OV j
'of
pockets,
other hand, we find that for in 189,1, 1,895
American products. The lion. gentleman
-ooceding
the pi s, of the conference were
)uh-e of Devqn�liire gays I his le �at
th ki
by 'file 61,64 i Be t th
cc$$,
That is the, w I iole thing in a nut shell,
this agricultural all-
and, 1806 there -was an average importa tioli
00 it year fromtheUnAod States
(Mr, Fielding), says that we do not Ask
f or any uld pro quo froill, Ei ng land, and
-want flesh,
oifa cl�arhcter calculated to strengthen
t union of the colonies, concerned,
lie � never made �'a folmial � er 'of: �er in-
4.
per�al trade Iq my X�ight on, friend.
"obody
go, I (if
_prod
the colonies eoi&l, enter the ar-
Brit
'uh
Th the meanwhile, however� I may say
that I note a resolutioa 'which apj)ea ra
6initry.- ' of c 11 a, " hoss front tha
side 6t tile Be, - 011. 'file "jullio
T
and I hope emilicat
or and ) Vill have the ef-
th ity will be heeded
cent. in, favour of the United
or y sit people
'States. POIL 8a t At if the Envil
that we, 6, not Any pqulld� of
ri
Lot nae'tiell him that Canada did it t i-
both among themselves and ith tlio,
"Mother Count ry.
1\ supposed he bad any povver to
do so, A nber f the Government
1$ a met 0
ket on' better terms than the ucts�
plod of
orelgw,coun ries
f t It i's A that fat
gro in
to have been passed'unAnimously' At, a
Robatt)
meeting of this' Pr6iniers in' 1
member f6r,the city, Halifwc (Mr. Aiii
f
s
Bell), tia borne' this testimony,,
feet ot destroying scale of those fall, loic,
OF J`RAJAP, AND COM-
can, be made to !eel grat6ful far the crea,
dQu of a t. ariff ;hat brought about that
ao
ginate thl'S '�011lcy of prQfereiitial de�
prei
Int� -erential trade was adopt7
Sir. you have from the Pri
'me
F,
Ingtand,
lie could discuss the question, but was not
in a position to mako an offer; but'l jAit
we object to this preferenice cl
rcnce cl s e
au e
o b eo t o it as throwing away the most ef-
ill *hich t e was e\
-lie desh -pressed, for
olb�Ber commercial arrau�exnents with
It was. the oppoRunity and the pr�l
the leader tthe' Opposi
ME NOE' (S4, Rich "ird, Cartwright), I hope
lion. -will listen to otber advice
result, I do not think they -would exhibit
ed in 1891, by the United Empire Trade
Of
Milgetr.0, of thi
speakix -ough the
mouth of the Sovereign in closing Ph�liii
It ;t6 my right 110, n. friend whether lie (Ila
means by which 4 preference in
the, Empire and I thin it waq sug�
�gee4d 'of
vilege of., of ion
to,initiate proporal to'off er - Cana-,
friend
mhey. g 0 t from that quarter equally Pertinent
that aniount of ritelligonce that I sliduld
hope to find in t int country.
League, composed a number of Omi'
nent
members of the Lords and 'Commons of
Mont, the declaration that that' policy
-was
not wide
n,9tand the sneech made by His
Grace the Duke. of De,76pshire to be ah
the British market could be secifivel for
our goods. This, the right h6n. -leman .
gent
s I I that' a commission inquiry
be created in order to, sed. in
'dian tro'b'p'f'3� for service in, $outlf Afri6a�
It i"s 'and dis:
A FREE TRADE POLICY
1: do
DISCRIMINATION AGAINST GREAT
both P'orlitiral partieg� Their , oW6cb was
not to benefit Canada, but o, benefib the
�Vlliell propounded nn4 adopted by the
Ottaw crone 6. at which Her
invitation' to the i6l, Pi to
colon emiers
inako kno-wh l�hat they tholl t on thi s
aaid:
Now Sir this'we hiive done delibor.
Vidd
w At way practical 'effect might be
given to ihe Ahpii'Mtlon� If that be the
a proud, enviable, and
tinguir'lled oppoifullit Y. �i
Sir CHA 11LES TUPPER. always
with great respect. I now conie, to th('
BRITAIN.
Empire,.' They were F nglishmen.and their
ci 6 v or ninent, Canada, Australasi,
a and
rica were renre$el
South Af ited, *as'.calQu.
t, f an
ques loji o inter -Imperial coilinioroial
atel a et me tell you, gen!
rthis I
case, and � if if w ere thought at the
h6r� bat� do We find the hon, inerribe
for-14b6le (Mr. Bourassa) saying on thi
point 1 raised before. I have shown.
the of 1897, was,
On that point, I think. I mentioned last
yeal lion, friend the Minister of
-. that My
Policy -wak�, propounded, because It a"Ing
amined, all the means to. �,Iiind the :04 inpire
lated to. strengthen the unity' of the
6
arrangement, If that w�lsi not hip, uiid(.r'
-anding of the speech, why did'my righ
8t t,
tIvnidn, the Canadian Government and
the Canadian pecipld ask nothing in
prqseni'time' you were not Prepared to
go beyond that, inquiry, if it *erp the
au'lli set-,
the resolution, what policy,
the policy I denounced. It was a free trade
Trade and d6nimei,ce, speaking at Oshawa,
together, they thought this was. the best,
t e Toronto Board of lit.
pire. 11 ade
took this question up in� 896, and passed a
lion. 'frl6nd'reply that he did not want
I
turn. 'They hae done,if Out Of grati-
f, C,
of the Other colonteo, o , anada,
After Parliament Nvaa prorogued,
�id� - was a policy or giving to all the
pol , it
E
and not giviiig anything to 11
on February 10, 1801, is thus reported,,:
C. 'V�T. Scott; s�ked: 'IDoes the L ib.
arrived at theconclusion that to the
feeling of sentiment might be dded mu.
resolution bf a similar chracter:'
11pythifig of the'hind? Will he tell thi's
o On-
House that th� other Premiers did n t c
'
tilde for, th.e Motherhtnd� They do not
I d' ud h
sk qUi pro t oy do :not ask
And of the Smith African colonies, to
join in such'an inquiry, Her Majorty's
events went-on� until it came to, the
foint where the' Prime Minister de-
-
land. ' At that time E lifland �vas lli'lost
the only country that cou d. talre
pral part), favour discrimination against
Great Britain by adinittihg American
tually beneficial trade iela,tions, and that
both combined, -%yould indissolubly unite
Whereat, while the irade, legisla-
tion of other nations is fl;amed. to sub,.
sider it an invitation. to tfiem to state
ho)v Pir they would be able to go'in mak-
for MY pound of les i the do not re-
4
quire a price for their loyalt
Gokinment would be delighted to
inake arran-bments for thdt purpose,
c1hre"d'that" Canada was not at -war with
the South- African Republic; that Our
of it. But I my it; was a policy Open to
all the world: ii�d the hon. gentleman, the
free atid . taxinv the
manufacturers of Great Britain?'
t he n1hpire together.
MR. GOSCHE" OPINION.
serve their local interests, ll British
trade nd. other legislation sbould
ing pt,6noOs to, Her Majesty's Goveirn.
nierit. The evi'dence is clear that they did,'
I ani afraid he was hot oicactly speaking,
then under the inspiration the hon. Mim
ailly stigg estions as'to the
�' 'r'n' of tho, ref6rehee'and the character
Militia Act forbade the sending of our,
.troops,outside of Canada unless her ter�'
Minister of Trade and Commerce followed
it tip by stating that they intended, to
Sir Richard Cart-,vright replied: "Cer.
tainly we, do."
I want to, meet the statement made by,
Fielding), tha
to secure withill the Empire a union f
interest of a federal. ebaracter, and the
nOr' does the letter of IN Grace in the
glight,.Lst degree contradict that 'view. OR
of
ister of Trade and Commer6e, who says
that to 'the Motherland
n constittiff'oh of. the bommission,
uld
d t e par in
WP glaet y al b ' I '
ittoiy iv�& threatened � and moreover�
that Parliamen was sovereign in the
t
drive tht ivedge liorne and steadil to in-
'I
,Although the lion. gentle man has not
the bell., gentlemlin (Mr..
nothing will i lish people to
nduce the'Eng
icv of eaell British cominjim )r
poluld be designed to retain
she
the -contrary, he says: 11
we o1e nothing
ecer A forgiven6sd, in a spirit of Chri stian
if
1 11 tter, and that', withmit the sanction
in, I
of T, -rhaffient, the Govcrnraent� �could
crease the preference unti they had reach-
ed that happy hunting ground ;I free, trade.
boldly proclaimed that they did give a
large' preference to the Urdted States Of
reverse' their policy'and to I , inpose any d-
ties upon the food of bit(, people, In 1800
the Empire subjects whose labour'would
Very few disc iilles � of free trade fifty
years go,would have believed for a
charity, for the wrong she lias done US.
I am afraid he was not actin under th
9 At
Doc.the han. .gentleman are to, fell
me,,,or any hon. gentleman in ihis House,
d -d hthing,: I think this IB a fail, re -
I -will read -what Lord Farrer said
when delivering that medal to,the
Anterica'in the construction of -their tariff,
IV exports from th,
hich, has rised the At
1 1891,1 1 lVent, into that subject very
fully, in the Nineteentli Century, nd A
go to foreign lands;
Resolved, that, in the opinion of tills"
moment
' that at -this time France, and
Germany would be carrying. on an Phor-,
.
asiliration4_
The INIST:0 R OF TRADE AZ4 ly COM.
61" out of it, that the Right Hon. Mr.
Chambe [owed step by ste*
rlain. who had P
spne of,the pimitio'n taken by th6 right
libri., gentleman in his,oftenTu6ted, in --
"Globe','
hon gentleman:
country into Canada to no less than ' 68
gave elaborate evidence from, the 'best au�
-'al
conference, the Advantage to be ob-
tallied by a closer'uhion b epil the
mous trad
, e, under strictly prohibitive
MDRCE. I It shows *hit. high Christians
1, : I
Tilation§ that bA
lifie'by line. the de6 Ai d.
I ,
the' he leader
6f.'th bositiou to6k issue with the
There is a party amongst us
Ivould willingly discriminate against
per cent., while they have' been. lessened
from' England, lie hag succeeded in carr-
6e
I n
thoritier to gho-w what subst ti -, dvA -
all
tage rai it be given to colonial P'roducts.1h
various portions of the BritilliT
are c, great its to, justify ,in arrange,
coilditi8ns and not only tfi�t U�y would
not have opened -their makets to us,,
but 'they -aid
I
we are..
Sir CHARLE S TUPPER. Quite S6.
de I' aard fo,thidi subject, by
b mh n rie
6 Peemietsi arid- ended in proposing o
e a telegram which
P rim - Mi III
d destination, but
German and Belgian goods, and who
ing out a 'd iscrinti nation in favour of
at all raising
the
V as nerly po�sltle lIft7
wo be competing over. us
They have, done it, �tt of gratitude
thee gbritlemeh that hie, would form paR�of
di lich 0�a broadeast—
look upon the denunciation of the Ger-
man and Belgian treaties as a step, to-
United Staes, if there is aw, truth to be
found in the that made in
Oe pric� of food. I will give the lion., gen,4
Ae a very high authority. ',Ehe Right
tur6 of it ZoNerein, based upon princi-
for the po §sesion of as large a portion
as possible of 'the suffabe'of the earth.
r the Motherland, They do iiot ask
any do
hegl
a conifitiWon to. talce this subject up and
inqui 6eg -lie mean tb s1vi that
&e:into it-
'v ,
And, known e b on. gentIman.
Wards what they have been pleased t 0
,
the pltform or. the Liberal party in 1893,
TIT.". Mr. 0
-Osellen, when Chancellor of the
pies of the free.st, 6�tcbange of commoT,
dities within the Empire consistent
not fori the purpose of cning it up
OPI
quid pro y not a sk,
for'the d, o flesh; they do'not r(3. ,
p 0 11
that indicates theie is no man in n a nd
b6n,gdhtl�man advigeA the dov�
ell it the'comrae�cial federation of t he
brupirc-a. system Linder -which commor-
declared, in express that
tile tariff' of, discriminated again,qt
Exchequer in 1891, used thi s language, -and
,he is noiv,in the present Government as
I
wit, T requiriinl�nt� incide�t to.
the mitintenaue of,the lo6al, Govern-
out' of the universal be free
o t of
trilde - but for the purpo-e 6f'6xcluding
,
4dire a Pt for their loyalty,
that� We can quote ft line from, or any
Publ a 0 in nen6e. io,phow that
i 6,,gelld�tkd6ps right at once
an&.;not to 'mind ,Parliament. -I need
cial union in tile different Of the
ire will be fostered by laws ex-
I T,n g re is an-hoti. gehtlf,--
jand. I sk if the the'l-Iouse who will
men an that side of
First Lord of the Admiralt 1-16 said:
ment,of each kingdom, dominion,- prov-
'Porining
portion S Etl�lish trade.
The world has ot become the c Miller-
0
The questiori had, up -to iliat,time; been
disc ussed upon the broad pft"incipld of - hill.
t r is a , utilit in doing anytbih4 in
he e
egard 't6 if' a ir,, Colonel
fiot`�s_ay ',whe're ffiy, sympathy , stood.
T�'n the Gpv6rfiment
liq 01' discouraging foreign goods.
11N,1111111i ,
-were to be tho
repeat that; to -day. that statement
dicriminiition in the far-
I think it possible that the ad yantigLi
of the consolidation of the Eull )lrL Iniv
itice ov colony,. ilo)N, part, of
tho'BrItish faiiiiily f nations
6 -ivllich was predicted n ttual
days of free trade opi nion, when
benefit to, Great Brit sort d to Can.
ada, and the outlying of the Eh�-
T TowiLi i ent Nv s 7H tel7vi ed on, this
ie ar 12, 189 Ali this IF; what
,gave,
ub; an&% decided 'to 'send' troo ps..,
I that 'to ioil: of h,ol
It th�s consequence
I
of what you have done, I need hardly
ilf? If ro, yen increased it, tenfold.
be so great that, if the incre e t i�6
LIS in
Price of the loaf is xtremely 'small,
Sir. Chamberlain opened that
Climber Commerce
it lVas hoped that free trade would
bind the 'the
pire. But, the tight hen, genfl6man nar.
toived if doi h it
6 6 1
cbritfilend 'the attent
gentlemen opposite', What mo rd have iv(
say that %vc of the Cobden Club would
hae been hIt is because we
The st, atcin;nt Made by the lion. Minister
of Marine Figheries (Sir Louis Da-
the producers with Isellorn th�, power
of with a speech of
immenge significance. He said:
all nations of earth. so
closely together that it would be a
and gave an entirely dif-
ferent, charicter, taking the strongest
in view of Mr. 4. Fostei's and
Sir Charles Tupner'm And the
8ir?:At t4is',hioment we have the fa(
of the Government are
'it - no,
not
believe I -hat your efforts are founded oil
le oil,
vies), to ii, section of �1 amber of C6m,
now lies far more than lvith the con-
sumers, May not ob-dot. I differ with,
And I'LL arnit if I understand it
Matter of Comparatively little import-
means he coiild�to. prevent,anybody ever ,
speecheq. ,
I ction of the Canadian Patliament, a
agit'Ating1he question and are holding put
, I ", IL
"
dic opposite nd be fol-
itierce in England, has exposed that lion.
the lion. rr�ember f8r Leeds, who, sup.
correctly,, I find the germs oT such a,
'a're-solution
ance by whom they -were ruled, or un-
becchiPlishing anything in favour of,this
�inehstiire that
I I
WrreS pondent asked Colonel Howard
b, _
he Moo ings in the province of Ql�ebql
owed by opposite suthat- we, fol-
dm Smith and of Pool, of
to the fact that his statements
have proved to be utterly delusive. He
posed that, if we hd, nhy oust
11111011�orLarrangoinerlt by wh�ich favoorurir
proposal in to be
submitted to' I on, on behalf of the To-�
I
derL' influence they were govern-
ed. We have since leh�ned by painful
q6at the whole PeQple� ,of
Canada deiire�, that every man 1,14 Oanada
inceub. M.P�, to -day what action was
intended in the Im'nerial Parliament'
The�h6h,,Inehiber foir Lkliraltie,and -Napie:
v1116 (Mn 'Mobet) the hon. member: fc
Bright- atfil of Cobden, a re here to con-
gratulate and to thank, You. You do
said that our tariff' disc�iminated against
E'4nglcnd� and lie aid that their tariff
was shown to the colol'�ie8, the 'United
ronto Board �f Trade. - What i- tIlF it,
resolution ? I hope LI correctly explain it,
eperience that no old nor n61V r_
Ma
Icet re being thrown open to us by the
to-day,lobgs fok,'and thift eyer�y iiatell" t
man. kno-ilfs wido more for Canada tTnl,,
irdkpectin� a, tariff of prefefen66s with
the Empire. He replied: "I cannot say
Labelle and the hon. men
bor Angets)�, are hol(
not BIC us to abte one jot of our
wochange and r eforin that. Instead of
States wellel have a right to interfere.
I do'not think the United States would
resolltion'l understand. to be one
influence of fre,t�bde alone, a nd tbiLt
if 'we want to foi inpreh'si
ftn� that has prop6undbd
. L 6 L eV6'jL h6b'n
n anaddi or that ellai bei c6nebiv,ed.
L
definitely, but we shall match fowhrl
mcetin& in the provinci of, Qd,
the, irboO
free trade principles.
'here is a. declai-ELtion of Lord Far rer in
doing that the taxiff, of bon. gentlemen Op-
posite has �raised the imports from, the
have a right to r6monstrte or inter-
fore iii.the way be sug I gested.
for the creation of a, British, Zollve-
rein or cust which would
-oins union, es -
LL ng
provide
coln Mores. L �kiich is necesgrY for the
-ort 6f -incremint
At EMPIRE T�kADE LEAGU
ayby day, and, A age by stage
'e6,r'd&nc Sit Charles Tupper
e
bee A&iomicing sending . of�
1) lo ing I -Jor the Pientier, andL sayiii
& 0
t1w clearest nd most comprehensii' terms
that if be had had that tariff of 1898 be-
L
Ullited_ Stites no less than $3 7,500,000 efur-
ing the short Period that tliey� "ve been
I dive that to the lion. gentleman from an
t,%bli%h at once practically free trade
thtoughovit the British Empire, but
our
si�pp population,
we must find those markets for our -
vi6vs and those of 'di6. Go,_
the Can
tfiXV �,�a§ misled by that dreadful mai
Sir, Oha;rles, Tupper.,,
fol him. my rig lit ban. friend would not
have that distinguishing
in Power. I (to not intend to. say little]]
niore, upon this subect in
eminent British statesman, who does not
regard that phase its a contingency. I may
, -would leave the contracting parties free
to mnize their civil rangements ivith
selves, and use every Opportunity
either of expanding or consolidating our
And, what does Mr. Chamberlain Bay in
reply? lie evidently Ba* that hon.
. 9 :Vincent coniinites,
B6ARI TRADE RES&bt!MS.
great
bad�c which told him oil rmer oc.
I a fo
I he would find a mill
e\cuse For the very in, tBAe'
coheren in
which. 1, am dealing w ith this subect 'that
masses of the �p
say that th eople', the con7-
suniers, wiin my, judgillent, be the very
regard to duties upon foreign goods; ex-
cept tha-this is in essential condition
colonial possessions.,
Lord Salisbury said that he at
was one
my right
friend was labOuring' u*nder gome� hostile
sp) rit, that could not ery *611'be
The,Uuited Empire TradeB League
now numbers quite tw6-third of the
This iny be, a farce that is Uelng ca4
but', L I
ried: out, ti�ink, if it is one! it,
- to' �thoi
casi�on was afraid
k, , -I
stone around his. iiec and I all still of
1. have been followin iinary
g the extraorc
the hon, Minister. cf
agency that will bring about the -condition
of things in England -which we desire to
of
- the proposa-that ' Gr t Britiin
with Mr. Chamberlain in the Views lie had
explain-
ed. Mr. Chamberlain what the posi.
Ministerialists in the British 06mlnbns.
Xnd'
not parif�ularly c reditAbl� the7
ge ntlehiah., I will ask the Permission ofb
that opinion. Let me. now recall -what I
to iny hon. friend. the Minister of
course pursied bv
- his Ile
Finance in introducing., budget.
seties
shll consent to replace inoaderate d1l, ,
upon certain rticles. which are n'
f
announced on that important question: and
His Grace the Duke of Devonshire. acedn-,
tion I was ovelo in 1800i 4iiter'the de4
feat of my Government. �I was entertain,
-Yet, the hon� gentleman tells thig
:n e found in Eng.
Hpuse that no Man*'do, b
House, to I have. there egoluti6hs of tb
bohMw-6f'trade entered on the, record i
Finance in to his statements as to
illy ttitude oil 'the tariff, and I give it s
psed, from one subject to another. ba6k
and f to and fro,,and I ani Obliged
Or, U I
LORD SALISBURYS STATEMENT.
The United Empire Trade League went
Iro'ge production in the colonies. Now,
it I have rightly understood it, these ar-
tuated that statement.
SIR WILF RID REFUSES A PREFEik-
ed there, I had the�h6nour of dining ith
w
the United Empire Trade League. '� And'
lafid,that will lend any collutdilance or any
finction to the." posm1s. I have beon
s ro
rhe
^really no, ii , to read 'therfi:
I have Me,
Ottawa boAr'of Trade.
an evidence of the. position that we took
to very irrational course he P111`7
in to be consistent. I' do 'lot
to Lord Salisbury with the request that -he
, German
ticles would coraprise corn, ineat, wool
ENCE.
some ulembers ion ex'
of that organizat
obliged to detain House at leu�th on_
this because I it
Wil � *1�41
f
the second congress o t e
on this side of the House:
The is that this tariff,
sued order
intend to detain the House in speaking
'mking
would have the'Delgian and tr a
ties abrogated, because no sucli a.rran ge-
and sugar, and perbap� other articles of
enormous consumption in' this Conn.,
But my right; bell. friend, instead -
e
pressed th" dee egret that, I should
'r -
have been defeateS, brecailse'of the gup0i9ri,',
question consider of
importance, and I am anxious to place bei
gr6as,
Ch 'Vef�k 'Of Comm6ree"Of the Itinpike!
' "That
rst proposed
exposing the industries of Canada,* to
-,vorld,
upon the question of machinery
free used in the manufacture of beet 1-00 . t
ment of inter -preferential trde could be
carried out unless that,-%vere done.
try, hich are at present largely Dro-
dticed in the colonies, and. NvIii6h might,
of re-
deeming the 8olemn pledge he had given
that 1�,was prepared to give to inte -Imperial
'Prefei-ential trade. I said: I am happy to
fofe the country; clearly and distinctly the
great �issiue that is between the p�rin.
deckEred "'in 189 airangdnient�-
should �L, devised' to secure xl6ser com-
'0111petition with all the and the
reduction of 25 per cent. below the
sugar,. that cannot be manufactured in
it, is policy that I entirely ap-
Lord Salisbury said:
be, under such an.arrangernent, wholiv
in the
the.people of this country, betrkye d the
T11 eople. What; did' he d6? In answer I to
be able to"tell'you that -you .are quite 'miis.
taken,, "'
Hoh.,genfIbmen opposite propose to give
Tji6ferenhe which we on of tile
this side
nie�cial union between the' Mother.
CGuntiy and her colonies and dependdn-'
,ener- l tariff -which is adopted, will be
fatal to Canadian industries.
prove of. 'When the cillestion came t L6 last
year I ventured to advise my hon. friend
On this matter, publiq. opinion musT
be frained. or formed before any GoV`_
produced, colonies and wholh,
�roduced by British laUtir. On the
other hand, I. have the
that 'speech,, h e said:
I,claim for the present, Government'
that,'ifistead of my eing an
defbat,b
injitry to intbr-Imberial trade, it will be I
the -the
House think is caldulato.d'to pmVent any-
filing ever being done. that, will induce ttie
rid, '7bat a commercial. union,,
British Erapite.on the lii�-
I believed that then, and. I believe it now.
'io investigate it and see -what action could
ernment could act.
s said, colo
nics. -while maintaining their duties up-
OF Canad,tb lutve passed a re- -
reverse; lion. keintleinarl who has
defeated me, and who is�now' the P�emiet
BritMi Government and the British Para
sis,'of ftber"trade Would tend to"pro-
That inal r not be felt—
be �en by the Government that would be
'to
Did Lord Salisbury say. it is quite impos
on foreign imports, would Agree to
I solution by the products of
of Canada,, is Pledged as strongly as I ani
limerlt to, negotiate oil this question be-
mote Agi perman6nc� and prosperity;!'
'
Fortunatel.� we I.ive been rescued from
calculated Dromote the beet root sugar
sible to linderte or to, deal with a subject
free. inte'
rchanpre of commodities %vith
. Great Britain �mre admitted on the rate
in favour" of ifitet-Irriperial preferential
cause 'all the -e questions have to be n&
t n h it h6s been genrally,
d ereas
that fortunatelv the abandonment of the
,
industry. I tbink, that if the sugar peo-.
he has
of this kind. ot at all. Lord Salisbury
the rest 6f the Empire, and Nvoud
I of their ta-riff .it. 121 per' cent., and
trade, and has doclared�that on of the
.6
g6tiated on the principle. of reciprocity.,
adinifted,that the colonies should con
1ribute 'cost. 'of imperial'
free, trade. poli�y that Lord Farrer spoke
ple are 'VerY thankful for
said further:
cease to place prote6rive duties upon
next year at 25 per I cent. reduction.
rgi� things he would do, if: he got powel`
stand on the ,
We take our. principle of
tovMrds the
of, nd the adoption of the exclusive pre-
ference to En,�land. has aved. us from that-
done, they are verjr easily satisfied, nd, I
am inclin�d to think that, although lie has
'investigated
01-L this matter, public opinion mu#
be framed or formed before any Gov-
any product of British labour,
lemen Opposite that tliere
This i�e have done, not asking any com-
Pensat"bil'
would be" to send "a cbriarhission to.
land to negotiate it; and I.ha*e the most-
pro, ection. We say ive are prepared to
protect the great. industrier. of this. coun-
defence, and-, as � matter of"fact, colb.-
4 ha e'prticipated with those
niiiI forbL_ v
danger we -kvero c:.;,:posed to under the
tariff of 1897, wilich' was open to all the
done something, has not the
subje ec- ivith an' very great degree of care.
y
ernmelit, call act. No Government can
impose its own opinion on the peolAL
are no protective duti�s now, but that +,hey
have revenue taiff; and, thereforii.
There is a class of our fellow-citi 7eng
who ask that all quell concessions sh ould
unbounded confidence that lie will keep
. his
pledge; and the result will be that, you will
try, and -we cou,e �-wjth that tile rono-
9416n. that no protection, no boon, its.,ibe
C the United Kingdom, iii, dabliffln,
il 9,
the _integ�ity of 'the Erniiie;'
world, as Lord Farrer said.
That May not be felt perhaps lilline-
THE BRITISH WEST INDIES.
I find that be has taken to heart the ad
�of this country in these matters. You
are invited, and it is the duty of those
that coniost entirely within, the � statement
made by Mr. Chamberlain. That congress
be made for'quid pro quo.
The Canadian Governm'ent has ignor-
have the Liberal 'party of � ivhi�h,"he 'is ihe
lead� struggling to 6btain -this great boon
r Ight hon. gentleman bas jurtly said� a
repeated agairt and again the elec.
Therefore,. be it resdIved, that", in'
. ., �?, .
Iie O.Pini6 of, this congr6m, &,,cerrain,
n ,
'
diately, bll� at a very ea"13, day it will
be felt; and, the, ientlemen oil the
vise which I entured, across the floor of
the Hoi1se, to extend to him in reference
who feel themselves to be the pioneers
of such a, movement and the ape stles
passed resolution to this effect:
That this, Con,,rp,gs of Chambers of
ed all such sentiments.
We have 'done it,because we owe a
debt of to Great Britain,
rvative party
and the Conse standing b�
hind them, gi'v' All the aid and syhi�iatliy
Cons can be, given to" the great akricul-
tW' interestg of Canada that 'will com�
,m.ment -with it
re of closer commercial uni on,
among 'tlie countries Of the --Empire' can
be�most conveniently 6stabllslied sfep'
d. us
back benches have enlightene by
telling its that after personal c OMMU_
to the 'West Indies. I stated last year,
I repeat again, that I regard it'as a
of such a doctrine, to go forth to fight
for A; and, IvIlen they have convinced
Commerce of the--, Empire'is of opinion
gratitude
We have done it because it is no in-
they can. said, in repl�',
to,the right hon. gentlemaii (Sir Wilfrid
pare for the,adantage
would derive in securing the iThposition of
6ward § the introduction 'of friter��,
nication with, the Government, they
and
most unfortunate thing fliat Great Britain
'counter
the people of this country, their battle
stablishment, of closer, com-
mereirtl relations betiveep the United
Of Ours r
tention to disturb in any wa�
the system� of free trade' which' has
Laarier)-for he epRke later:
a duty .'upon, the. products of foreign coun-
tries into the British market that will
British free trade most readily. takeit
and'the responsibilities of:each part'of'
have obtained a pledge that this is only
the entering of the wedge and that
should, owing to her hostility to -
vailing.duties, palyze,tliq inaustries of her
will be -won.
That is not very discouraging- Lord
gdoin and the coo
King rics, and depen- '
dencir,.s is ,in object which deFbrves,
don e so miT61t for Engvjand.,
'Many had been
My Lord Mayor, if our self -govern ing
colonf6 desire now. or. at any future
going
g -�e advantage to Canada.
in I
the Enl�ire most -equitably borne ''by
revenue for its defenc�;
it will be driven home ul7til every ves-
tige of protection is rooted out. - .
possessions in the West India Islands, and
reduce them to such a condition of diffi-
S*
alisbury's advice Nvar taken; the Uni-
t�d Empire Trade League gitated all over
and denul:ndt, prompt and careful con-,
si deration� -The congress, re-''
schemes of union
suggested, but they the fatal
interfering, the free
.
tilne to take. their share, in the glories
and in the responsibilities of file' Em-
THE OP19YO OF THE , TIMES.
Now. Sir, the hon. gentleman says at
providing'a
,�other'corrimOn Imperial purposes, from,
a' small uniforni duty
second and great objection is that
this policy has destroyed the prospect
culty and embarrassment that. she abso-
lilteh, had to advise them to endeavour to
I�Iritain. in favour, of,�his matter, -and af-
ter the general elections in 1.895. they went
F;Dectfully repr 'Ll t t, Her 1\�fajesty�s
TJ s
Mont � if'o the
tat
objection of with -
doin. of trade of the colonies.
ire. the�. wi 11. fi
P nd, that we' Are ready
to " thern',niore
every London journal coffs at the idel�of,-.
ff tl.�
preferential - frhde..* Why o they sco a
i0r"dnel 'above those of' the local
l�hei,4 'are
Of obtaining- preferenti��l trade, th e most
gigantic boon wbich, in my judgment,
liegoiiate a, treaty, n d assisted in negotiat-
in- OL tr aty -with a foreign power. When
e,
bck with this statement to Lord Salis-
bury:
'ov(.rn - suaesti olThe
should be made oll behalf of the �01(?_
nies or. sol. it
ne of them, ould be right
colonies had alrearly'granted c6r-
tain concessioni to the Mother Country
but they asked for no quid pro
meet� y" a
that we will niake I t bur duty to �'es-
tablish firmlv that pi -inciple of oiir con-
A9 �The: didJ i�ot scoff at it before the
�`re -Was 'throwi�' at them. and be'
any� sucli levied)' oh�
rtatidli, min
rt he p,'..._
to e -pa f
ada, and one
d be obtained for Can,
EEgland Ila' s ucceeded in placing the com-
The reater number of the members
and expedibrit to promote,sucli cbrt-
quo,'no,
Pound ;f flesh.
nection: tlEach for all, and all for
!e they were told that we wanted noth-
at ara of' Trade -
�which, if the lion gentleman Nvas de-
t
in e It is attack on he in
inerce of the British West India Islands
under the heel of the United States of Aul)
returnZ to the Dre.,ent Parliament in
sideration�' and the formulation. of
some
What ire give Von by our tariff we
each," upon -which Alone the stabilit Y
the
g r t
f. - Here iF4 what the Times says
osupport ru. ry 13, 1896,
�in t"e opinion of thig,00ngress
dustries of the country, they ought to
eri6a, she has' gone long way, in my
of your lordship's policy and
dininiftration, dvocated cibh�er in
rr: plan gummoniru,'
n Imperial conference', thorouirlill, re'
f en�
give yon in gratitude or the spl,
(lid freedom under which we have pros-
Ind 0
prosperity f the Empire can
depend and�
It :is believed that.the accession of
b nds of t e British Empire would,
a t�rially strengthened and� the'
have secured, if for �lo otf�er reason
than as some com ens6tion. for the in-
P
-were
opii�n, towards bringing abot different
sentiments in regard to the political rela-
.
their election addresses or in their plt-
form speeches, the policy of united
presentative of the, interests involvkl
or ll� such otb er,ineans a� 1,1er 'Ala,
pered. It is a free gift. We ask na,
compensatioiI. Protection ha's been the
Mark thi, Mr.' Speaker:
Si'r,Charles Tupper to the ministry -All
lead- Canada to �make goine kind of an;
i of. t e various parts 6f Her Ma-'
dominions greatly coniblidated—
jury they doing.
ind I moved this resolution:
tions of those countries. I do not hesi
tate to say, having pressed this matter
Empire trade, and to this fact must be
Psty may. be advised to adopt.
cur wld not see you
'under
-,if they are wishful to draw closer the
commercial relationg between themsel-
effor t of preferential trade *lth the
(a). By'.the colonies contpb-�tjnig 'toJ
That in the opinion of this House the.
Strong
,ly oil the attention of the hon. Min-
ascribed some portion of. the unparal-
v in the House of Com-
leled , majority
I w's . little surpried to jearn that the
Finance 'Minis -T)erse the lea
ter could,so a -
come its baneful influeniie-for
what:,weakens you must weaken 'us.
ves ar Ld us, now or. at. any future time
Mother Country. It is,probible that
the united Go�ernments of Australia
wairds the naval and milit*ry. defence'
of � the Empire;
reduction by 25 per cent. of the duties
upon all imports except wines malt
istLr of Finance, that I m glad. to find,
as he said. in his very modest speech, that
molls by which your lordship is s -
ported-4-specialy from working-c�`uprs
der of the Government of whicli he is a
member s to intimate hathis
I ask: my.right hon, friend is that what
,
again I say --we will meet them, and i�
no huckestri.rig'. spirit.� , 'We will"not
1111 'Make a imflt ef6A. , the recent
w" s
tuin,of oreign aairs, especially regard-
ado tion of a domffier-
-(b.) Bk thent t
cial, arrangeme M, while coneeky-
'rs,
h4uors, spirits, pirituous liq� Ji-
he \v, -s not above taking a little advice
from wherever it might come, and I am
constituencies.
qu�eation
-is scoffed t by c hat.it is. ',in
verybQJv. t
the eople had a right to expect at his
hanz. When asking their suffra46s,. lie
treat this aa a trangaction irX a ledger,
to be weighed in the
ind,�Geririany and Am�rica,Avixe gi . ven
ing� the 15re.�,ent freedom of action as to
suiitable�
quid medicines and articles containing
idcoliol; ugar, molasses and syrups of
Ad Chat he hag adopted the 'Policy of en-
g'
Now, Sit-, there is the fact, and yet the
gentleman (-Alr act - -
bell. Fielding). has lil
utterly -idle ai�d impracticable story, and
to assert, ike other hon� gentlem6, that
declared that if they -would cloth,; hi'm
- Tom
vith he would. ' nd a, co ission to
prop6rtiori'to ex-
act balance of pr. ofit'and loss. No, there
is
m petus to thi move-
ment.
ific fig6al' policids most to'the,
geogflphicil,,corlditions and diversified
all kinds, the product of the sugar
I L;ane, or beet -root, tobacco, cigars and
d, ouring, at all events, -to rescue Ttini-
v
dad from that condition of things, which 1
11 said that no man with a head on his
loulders -words
no t -wordillor ,suggestion loiig that.line
had, been uttered by the Prime M.-iiii,ster.
power Be
neg te iriter-Imperial preferential . frde
is a inle. and� as I have said a-
sentim12111tebehind it -which will carry'�all
A�A'vt, every London ournal, according
ihfercsts of the i ndiv'idual countrie6 ��Om.
'W `E pire, 'will - orbvide for
posing e ml
cigarettes in favour of all) countr y
regard a calculted to be fraught with very
I be only
(or to that �effe et), could
be found that -would advocate any such
ENDORSED BY SIR WILPRIb,
between Great Britain. and Canada, blit
having obtained power� 'he deliberately
before it, because, -we -see in such tight-
to 6p bon., gentlernam, scoffs at the idoa
of - 'obtaining I -Imperial preferential
inter
,
the imposition of a. moderate special ad_
whose triff. is or may be made on the
whole as low as that of schedule 1),
impleas=t consequences. should
too glad if a, treaty can be arranged with
Trinidad that will enable the productions
thing.
The Times newspaper of March 10, 1896,
What did the Prime Minister sav oil the
l7ti Mav, -,vli
turned his back on this Pledge, and down
to this hour there is not a Tn,%n in this
cRing of Imperial bonds 9, guarantee for -
security and.contimied unity�
, ,
trade. 'Now, let me'refer to the hoareig of
traab..� I suppose thitre are,,some men in,
vhlorbm'' duiy' on importatiotis from.,
fotej n count�'ies16 be levied uniformly,
, I
is calculated to imperil the industrial
interests of Canada, and is in principle
of Canada to go in, in the fr est possible
e
said:
of 1896, en. eeking the sw66t
voices of the people? On.this question of
courltry who has been taken into his cofia-
'and
that th
I s�y e��mdh who, in the.facer of
the: bo��d -of trade of Montrdal, Toronto
by. a .I pdr6s of,the British Empire,'
n6f only 'd' e. en
Opposed to preferential trade Of any
manner, sugars being taken in return. I
The Prime Minister has ddresed a
letter to Sir Howard Vincent. hon-
Preferential trade, he sad!
dence been told what was the cause of
this overwholming change of, opinion on
that will say 'that there is no Public man in:
England 'ho '' to the discussion bf
bill lawa, who lave ea s on their
s oul ero' en who have a, little
,thus prdv.i
t In iii, rbsponsi iities, ut a'
�01n, - mperu
hind with the 'Mother Country
That occasions tile Gov-
told my hon. friend, when he introduced
his 25 per cent. tariff to the West, Indies
orary secretar of the United -Empire
In: regard to this qt iostion of prefer-
his part. It is very significant that he
n
t, Iquo ' that t is scorned by th e
I k.. I., of commercial, Affairs as well
ina-ujureatirig, a olicy of utu ene-,
6"wlieteby �a
on several
�erilmeiit and 'anada
Hei Majesty be
that he -would find it perfectly delusive,
an d. he non admits that he ha�, failed.to
d reply to the meniorial
presented last month by the council of
etitial trade 1*. Latirier desired to s, y
that Sir OfIrles Tupper was'no moi�e
should have gone out of his way to curse
that which he 'sent to:blesg.
Prss d the n tha country, utter-
I its to grasp t
Y f.. p subject, utterly fails
as; e. inister of Finince. N617, Sii, thiFt
proposition that' the hen., gentleman scoffs
comn
the I mii -would receive an ad"nfag
re
nation
li,we requ sted to
- be
pleased to take such steps'as might
3ecomplish -what lie expected. I am glad
that bodyj praying that notice iight be
denouncing the in the
fayourable to t
-F6 idea,tInan himself.
It is. is,
I nuiy say that Lord Salisbury does ilot
;vitb
to ".. , . . I
It Iit. tr. 11 ght. ;
-
-
it ;derides, and says is but of the question�
in:-tride as result of its
" L, � � 11 1 1 1�
relationship,
necessary to terminate the effect of the
to see this additional step iaken. -which I
say is in the right direction. (Cbeers),�
given clause com-
morcial. treaties Germany andth,
pe my conviction
0 .11in �23rd of Time the Liberal
agree my right, horl. friend in big
vielvi'tha int&-Impetial preference wou'lel
SIR WILFRID'S E XCU§El.
that ItA6 a waste of time. to discuss it, is
not so 'regarded by the boards lof trade of.
'Toronto. b6ard of Trade�'
provisions of ll tr aties -which Prevent
inents, op -od King-
the Parlia f the Unit
doin And the sell overning colonies
IMPERIAL PREFERENTIAL TRADE
Now I tor the
Belgium � preventing British �olonie
from levying a lighter duty Upon Brit-
party will.be At the head of the Polls;
and. then it will be the Liberal pattv,
'its
interfere with free trade. He Was"written'
to by a gentleman in England as long go
'But, hi,, right,., lion. friend came back�
and, 1 wish,to remind him of f. L point which,'
Montreal, Toronto and Ottawa, -who lla�e,
within' the last, month, passed' resolutions
Willherch s,-- it, I is generlly recognized,
tha, an avqnt' eous commetc'id bond�
adopting such tari is may be re
come question of prefer-
ential ltr-�Lle, and if I am obliged to detain
isli roas' than upon fo�eign goods,
g1loill they eleet-lo do §o. Lord Salig-
with policy of a revenue tariff,
that will rtend commis�ioner� to �Loll_
as April 5, 1887, hnil he instftiefed his
private secretary toreply as follows-
it seems, ha esdaped his notice. He, was
attacked for,having betrayed the interes6
stf6iigIy,,afr1rnling the desirability of send-
of th
inj'ilelegat6s to a. congress e Chamber
is the stro'llgestIlink in nati6nal'. unity
and mainten�hc 'and strengthening
quired. for the promotion of. trade
within the Empire, but & decisive ac-
the House at L mile]] greater length tb'tn
I -would like to do, if I tim obliged to re�
bury says "since the accession to
offi�e' of Her T11aiestv's present dvisers'
(Ion to arralige'for. a basis of preferen-
tial trade.
I am to reply that Salisbury
of Canada,, fbi'L having failed to redeem
the idge he to the He
of 0 Ommerc6; to press ibis very policy
up, the associated chambers of �ommerc�
671
.o
tride is the'keystone of �L state's sue-,
c6sful devdlopinen't;
tion has beet -I taken in -its direction.
That the desire for preferential trade
iterate again. and again on the Yf�or of the
House the. position I K k hat
the question of the'trade relations be-
tween the Mother Country an the colo-
The hon. gentlemall, went more, fully, in-
to the London;
does' uotimagi�e that differential dii-
' our What�
ties in favour of colonies,
'pli gave , people.
went to. Toronto. and 'gave' hip Answer,
� 9
of_t4e Empire.
And wheteas, the.existefice ofaxi Em -
with, the United X-ingdom, is now gen-
important �uestion Of. preferential- trade,
nie%'Iuis been taken in eri u c n id.
to s 6 B 0 S
Subject a, t On I t., where, he,
, aid:
6
e ver may be said for or against them
And what, was it 1 will : give his exact
worils as takerl'in' big ipeech. in Toronto,
THE CONSERVATIVE AMENDMENT.
'�r6pb4e further
pire is argely.. dependent upon the ma-
terial-prosperity of its' people -
eral throughout Canada.
That this I -louse is of opinion that-
iny exclase must be that I regard it, as.the
-Vitally 'import
most ant question that is to-
oration, and that, he is in thorough
cord with the views expressed by Mr.
NOW. the, statesmen n
of Great Britai
have
can proi)erlv'be described under. the'
term prAec�iion.
after Us return in 1867:_�
Sir I do, not to take up
tirn�'tban to Move tlie resolution which I
*
'is
fflher6fore, -be lt,res6lved that, in the
opinion this congress the bonds of'
.the Government of Cnada should cause
ad
Her 1\1ajesty's Government to be -
day before' the people 6f Cand. I say,
that system inter
Chamberlain as tO, the extrerne' 1111-
thour tbe� governin
,ht that. elAs of
the colonies lmve come to It, time when
There is a'sweepinq�wv&y of the whole
foundation bell.
;ertainly, if I thought I could have
obtained foir-, my� country, for the Pro--
held .;in y band, and which secondc�
by M: Poster:
of
'I tie matrially,
ille..'British Empire woulc
vised th�t �o soon as the difficulties in
any of -Imperial prefer-'
ential trade that, will giveto the people of
porbmce.of scouring as -large a share as
nOssible u rae of the
wston c ,
an be taken in their (te-
velOpInelit? What is that-? That-
of my' ritffit friend's
tiolt" when on the h to Obtain a
ducts- of Canada, a preferential tre�t-
That ail the words, after "That" be
'sf�engthened, arid the union of
rious�'paxi& of Her Majesty's doullruons
the way are remoed. the Parliament
of Canada is ready to enter into a pre
Canada the advarita of a preference in
the markets of the other Country, is a
United Kingdom and the 101-nic'
British in, ,, for
and ,uj
Jillpre
shall be ' commercial agreement, be.
Cobden 'medal. His Grace t lie Duke of
Devonshire.' made an6tht
sr prono-uncem6lit;
ment i -n the markets of Great Britain,
only
I would, not have been warit' in
ingJ
Jeff, out arid the following added in -
stead thereof: 'thi§ House is of opin-
it ' 'cons6lidatcd by them adoption,of
grea Y
based
Ccrential trade arranement with Gre At
Ireland
policy go fraug-l-A with enormous results to
. producers rers,
whother loci+,ed in the colonies or in
t -ween England and the colonies. Tha�
nrafticl statesman, Mr. Joseph Chain.,
and if by his �specbhes he did not mean 'to
patriatism, but I *ould have b6en
ion tha a system of mutual trade bre-
commercial policy u�oh the
f, mutual benefit," whereby
p rincipIci o u
Britain and
Tha.t this House cannot consent that
I le that too in
the ))-op uch attention, cannot
be given to it. The bon. gentleman said,
the United Kingd6m.,
iiot. illink
berlani, has come to the conclusion
invite- tfie colonies to pr6po.4 whaf,mea-
sures they 6ongidered � would contribute
an Ing in, reason�I would
I have bebtl art idi6t�if I had -killed to
re ibn�e betw'eeh'Gfeat Britain and
kirid and the colonies, would I , dtIv.
e'ach",�ooimp-onent- Part of the Empire
any arrangement made by the ' Gov-
ernment of Canada with any country
and I was greatly surprised to hear him
Make a gtat�enient, thati
I do th bear o'lt the state-
Mnt made by the Finance Minister (Mr.
that, the tinle has come *lien it is Pos-
ibl& to have -within the bounds of tile
mosf-,to the unity,of the Empire, I do not
nienC At the Merchant
obtain- such a. pre6r66. But1et me
BOY '"that Abov4 all things, in matters
Fe
stimulate increased broduction in a na
between thege'dotinfne4, and
woald ieceive a, substantial- advantage.
i n Dual,
in liiieI6 "as the result of the r ai�i
involving serious considerations of tar-
and revenue. should become open-
England, which after great struggle
Fielding)., Then.on the 0 -5th of April, 1892,
the Canadian arliament,,passed, this resow
E.nipire it new stop 'taken,. which Will
to the iiolonies� in England a pre-
vsaid:
Tailors' Hall, London, on' July 6,' 1897, ]be
I have lea�hed My lesson,f rorn
ritish prededefits"ind I know tha all
commerce
would thug promote and maintain the
Eimpire; that
THE STO'RY'OF THE LIBFRAL:PARTY
tive without the sanction and ratifica-
under Bright and Cobden, had made
the people's food free. wak asked to turn
lution:
That if, when the 'Parliament
ference for their products.over the,
pro'ehicts of other � What
We know that while our'colonies and
r�fbrina have to' �e taken one step at
h6
unity of the and no
mea;ure of preference ivillich fhIls'§hott
If rhy,-hbn. friend the Minister,of Financt
"me
tion of P4rliaineht.
a Policy. there is te
Now, the�e is a 8t,
back the bands of the clock nd tax
the food of the people. England was,
and of
Great Britain and Ireland dmits 0arta-
di inirke
nations.
would be the possibilities of sjldli�
step if it wu taken? We
.our dependen'cies can by a"atre'rld hen-.
ed unity greatl erilargd and',� erib P
alle,
a time, &nd who, endeavints to do
more than that i4"Jiikelk.t nd infail-
of the complete realization of such a
icy should be considered its fl al or
P * - n,
will tketis e - for invading big patent - o
flie, loq -peroratiGh tlixt he,ma'di
e iient
men" there is the proof' that this taiff I
1.1omned, in 1897 radically in, princi-
aske(i again nd again, to accept, this
condition, and just go long -,is tliat� do-
an ptoducts to the
United�Kingdoih -Upon more fav6urable
tei;Wis t
-banit ecords to, the
a roducts
sell our gobds
in England.' We send our wheiitt our
butter heose, ill our natur�i
our or and�influeiicb in'the world
P
he same time we hi
yet atotv ave. witch thai
tire.
Theh he went on tdi'say that thb treaties
Ory; OR
That IF; the that e propound to -
'to
in his budget speech, will
after stated -the policy of the grew
honour,
pie unlike that which was introduced in
1,198,. and� we -were all glad to get rid of
mand was mad6 the great journas.'and
the leaders of thought in England
p'
of foreign countriesj the', Parliaent
pro
duct's� but tbere we have, to compete,
we can off6r hem; and which we do
to fit is not in'the inte�-
offer them; and
had',�been dondufio6d, and that th4'Weie
the great hindrance in- fh e raY, an d' 'Pro'*.
day in opposi ic )n the n,olicy Proposed
by' the h6h. eritleman of' increasing to
Part Y whic f I have the at, prBa
rlt, to,lead'- c, Dnelude my- remark9,,by. say
'story
the exposure of our industries to tie coil
great
scoffed t preferential trade of 'that
of Canada Will be prepared'to� accord
corresponding advantagegi by a realuc-
l similar prodiiet�s from the Uliited
State,,.;, � from usaand f rom other
e9t of the islands, alone -it is in the
'ere
g
1�8 per cent. the preference given to
Ing that iii,e of the' pafty� and
the U& ornment.'of this country. is tb(
p etition, of the whole world under a pre
ferential rate, and -we were anxious to
kind.
tion in the duty it imposes upon Brit-
nanutsop what a great
tage
int&e9t -of the whole, Ell -speal in
race-tbat we aclvooate glt',�� ide
4h is nothing in the, way now.�
The coast We
-no
Eshave , hesifati on in
-a
9mving tliftt) although the coilditio, : of
v
story of who' glorify'tlie federa
partN,
have it limited, if it-, taiiist be given to
'to Mothor No
That is a.bold and unqualifikI statement,
but it is I. statement; which is not borne
ioh Tnanufactur�d gotods,
That. is our to that is 'the
it --would. be to Canada,, if the
wechoose and we
unity,' nd �we urge upon you to take
ground 181
for discussion, And it can be"djs6us4ed
'thing§ is flourishing and Although
6on' they diaAheir utino8t. 6 obstruet.
-N
It Is the story of a pai�ty, whoi.,havrn�
anybody, the Count.r Y. iv,
let us 'see wh-tit; the Minister of Fi
ou�'by the facts. I say, that the greatest
Journ�ls of England have looked upon that
policir -dny,
oil we, take.' ' We say it is a question
would send to 1"4uglifild should be met
I
it) England with 1,
every measure t iat it 1§ 'in your power
tAke to ceme
-to nt and sttengthbin iL
w'
faith a ope of obtaining some atis-
Bolution of i e problem,
h :,
that Preference, if it gl
mig ht not be very seriously felt
failed 'to def&A the constkiction of: tho
�
sAid, in his budget speech in regavd. to the
United Sta' tes:
Measure Avith 'g at favour, and on more
, re,
tharl haind icated
of bsiness; that it i �uestion of-' radPTIce
a
That, is a question un'de'r our con-
prefer over im-
ilar products 0 f,other nations. Th e pos-
But,. J�idics nd geotlemerl, we believe
ourselves,� the British race both here
,
There is'another, pledge� a plsdge_r�ade
be bach;4hat
yet let a little 4ring�ncyy come and the
. n 1�ill ffer in,
Pa ific R&illviry now boast o:
Canadian c
wba� if has,$l c1iieved foi 'the,,countrv.
If, in the United States there had
one occasic in they that
n
it was 6, question dek�eiM g of the most
tition, has been, c
stif, onfided to the People
of Canada Sit. wo. respond to the
sibilities, are immense.
Mr. Joseph Chamberlain, the �neiv
and abroid, that' we are not 6 1 a,
it Y
since came the great dif-H.
eultv out,of the w&y, he -would do every-
rV going in Canada, 'Tilev will
dust 'd
1 party ihat, aNr th(
'It i s 'the �storjr of z
d 6riunciatil6h 61, protectiorl have heloptee
b een manifested ny great desire to
have better trade tsGovernment
careful thorough attention from the
of that country. One hon.
fr6�n high authoities in. Great
nd pr6greq-ive Secretary of the C6107
hies; has, declared !that, time, has
smenabut tt practi ca Peo-
ple,' and,, the idea which, must have
thing in hi§ power to obtain this Tr t b '
,on
for C'a'tlhdd,. '� What step has e taken,
f that withquit having any-
thing beneficial to G�eak.,Brlthlinj, without
it as their policy."
'story 'A
am sure there would be a 'very strong
dcynand in.
gep-
flcmail,'gohig farther than'the lion.
r1f. -1, th
a Oi is �tiestfon, and, believe,
-with them, it will womote file unit V
come when it is to I discuss t1lat
I
ocourn -er
,d to many of us, aft -witness-
ing the demonstration home
dol;�rn to this hour? He hils dono n6th'ing
having increased by pound r by 6na
dollar the from this'
it: is the of party who pledgee
to, secure reciprocal trade be
Maw, people
for reduction- in "the tariff on mer-
ter of defied,anybody to sholv'one
line in anything that had. be�n uttered, or
of this great ELnpire, We believe that we
qestion. But, Sir, if England isp gOlng
to give its that i
preference, Ehgland
at and
ae ,
which we' h wltnc�ged in
but block every effort made in this' House
tojAk6 i sin�lev step �in tbn.t direction,
sent country
t o' GreBritain without having h6com-
Englind and Canada, and after
�ioclared the did that
ican products. Put our American neigh-
feel be
Or by the Right 11011. Joseph
are'right, and tli�
'It it is just and proper
Avo s sk He
liould , r 1f.ajestys Gov-
would tliffig, fr67'
it its in re-
fhese recent tima' is, vlvlimi to be' tbe
it, ,it]; -whaf
T)IOII'h e declared that. �he:,grmt diffi-
gh
plished,an�thirlg that will nronibib in any
indagin -6 the the Empi�e, the aii-.
ards not, wish
Policy y
bourf� it' to their duty, nd they
feel it' to be consistent' their bespropose
Chalnbolqain in of that policy� A
to the Littention of thc-ftoil-se,
it they should ado�t �Ale 9-aine
turn. What is it 1vould 'expect'?
Engh nd, woiaM expect
practical outcome. of are
I I
the measures we are About to,
dulty ad been removed, �and he as,l
fe; evcr*t�ihg', be has done less thay
unity of
V 9
tio � 'the � Go etnulent are taking is oa
n
It is trie s�tol of 6 Party who ate vio
he
interests, not to encourage closer trade
atioiiq�ivith And whithey
r6
for a few. 16 this subject. The
hon. Minister th� b the
thiato
reference to Canitchi. that Can-
pocy6we'r.
1.411 ts in regard to Great Brifain.
al; Ive would
Come As Closely to, ))or own gystairt of
fr6e 6ade 'il;
take in order to satisfy the lolls
which ma ny of its hve,formed, and
la6
The, 'of
.1
ing t kvith.dallizer to the best
Lo be fraii
intdrestg of the country. Pay thab the
late& evety pM he coun
ra
take that poition, ye do not think,
.
],too
0overument have reqched the heaxtB, and
CHAMB'IRS OF OF THE
as is Possible to
come. docs. lthb.t
-howare we goin g to' give effect to,flle
Ahr Finance says
Cliamberlain 'hafg 'never, himself
.1.
Policy that we propMe ig a policy of
party Who av�Nved
the moment is h, Lvourhbl d for nia.king
reductions'lipoll articles which pro-
through the hertq, 6cy r6ftchod did
stomachs of the pcol)16 of England
I way' SAY that' at Olt' gecond mecting of
glond liol) oxnect
we should take hot, wwn ays
such 'as -A ior fl-ee
sclItinient the eistence Of �vhich, as I
is now,undoulAcel?
commi'tted
on this quc�iiohi I -wanbjo know holir -lie
accounts for.'the declarAlon of- the leader
ting protection." was the original
term, that is the term we use no� tlie
prom;Hng trade with the Mothel
and so. changed �tlic tariff a S t(
duced in tfio United tates, The J int
though it has
nd have created a
bacon,
the ClIani-13er of Cononerco of the
pire, I moved a r proposing that
but I lay
t yon, that the filing t1le"17'rig-
i-�h 'expect,
The lion., gentleman -wag udng ever Y
f 'his' Own Gover'nintnt,
ting to the maillifac6l
file min'ing, fidiing, lumbering, agricitItU61
dirninution. of the imports..of Eng
land i three years of more than 3 percent
not
lbect niuch, has not yet com.6
tbe,end As torlu, It is
yearning desire' lot, bitr cheese, our
our bllUep nd 6111' eg s. DO thoe hon, ly -
_,on
per 'centi duty should be impo'sed by
Gto t Britain in f' avour of the of
People oilld in g
it of,' a Principle Of ptotcc-
mnans to induce the Prem�ers whoin he was
to'fako this qu��tion� up.,
berlain had committed himself in the fiill-i
est degree, awl had, pro 6sp,d a Policy ihat
and gbillning and' to Ginad,
round, ort whidl
:hibouir. There LI -�,e
'
and Ali of imports from the
of oVer, 87 per Celli.; in the Bain(
to of thcorct,i-
all events,' still n open ques-
tlemon th I lo
tariff passed and. when. the
protlucts
ber 6016111e�, Alid
t-, , should the revellue form
'On thc�kst of June, it y right lion, friend
perfectly,'-practi6ad. and that under
a oli6v of iavenne jb6 bon.
,
are ready to go b"a Al 6 h6ii, gentle-
otat
tio�, and though there illay be no ini-
it's
.
Tient said that �'dley
,6'
xild that was defeated by a, veto of the
6,f t he Colnindk6e Of the Empire,
-PIP are
oil IvIlich, we can have,
igin
this, and At the sarne time
p
gontlonian mys lie his'now-A 6 ould be
Mel) ol)posite Any, indbiont they itip hsIt
to I litime no hesith,tion in sAying
i's of pi.rb", who 070g1c�
ling :01na'diall tmc(liate
prospocO of
it not yet been by
-ities
proposed to end eggs to
were le� with a lout, of dorisi6n by tli'e,
41 n(l 7 yoting III an
I v0*11if agal�l
that been.
I The ays,llow
the great wbieh Nvoitid,
follow from between
carried , out without diffi6tilty, Does lie
say that the oader'of the Gavornment-Anel,
:that,the claini the bell, genbloman ln�(16 in.
for
South Africa until forced �y tll6ll
''to do s nd now claim thf
6pporients o_
only author
ily, because 1 It
Libarls of this count -h� oil,
article contributdd to one of the maa-
the sho�yed that if 010
hu'lls got boon. iind T y )ie
A closer tiriio.fi
1,ngland her colonies. the Cftn�-
not know ,hything about this subjcet9
Ili4 spedell, claiming file earth
9
therlselc-1 lrlaiming� recent,
credit t1l"1901"s,
all ol)-
po, 1u� a 0 relations
of nd domilleft )el!I
then oil llnah�Al
7,ines Of .1
nd, Sout ti CA
ave (lie
for inan to to the
Government have Aludertakell in
to difilculty.
Doc,3 lie, cast ridicule upon that gcnfleitia.n�
and say he is ineaSable of the
vent,§
had, bl�oug about a tt-
lit -emendous of-
I bdg to move:
al
Goverlit will not fail to 'ad
!it that party, tollIS
doctrin.e. that
Nvith tt
had. to inst
tipri bad e,(I front the, Chlil�ibtn.is
give
allad;l, that if lie obtaillea P�Aj"cv his
q. me. degree solve
They � I#(, giv6n to
I WTI.,
igh.language an of. learning
lr,��nts of a, public man from his, ox-
feet upon Britain, is wholl�t rin-
I � I
WfIrVate d honi gfitlerriiih closed his
Tha(� all the Words after the word
C out And the
govornnicht I I
not 11, )l that,
of Commerce that, Solt them
f1r8t act would be to col
England to neg0titcl for that
fel in olvii matkets.
'pPefOrenCe
Press (1061anition od6a,4oiv;9
6 peech bv saying:
instead thereof: '�'Thls Housc�w,
NOTITIgG TO,
o to prom
they could d a
Otc tr do
tto
thi
trad04 I an.1 8brpy 'to &%Y' lor
to thc ih Stdt6el
Ille hom gentleman's Fielding'8)
It is fit(% Story of a people, who bear
opinion haa §ystcin bf
IR A -DE.
Sir, the hon, g6riblp.man in thi
_t
;g or nything But, be bas had
to story 66ML the b, on.
n r
That this conferc its be-
explaine(J t` the
0
no�� to thi�l Hou�c, the vjpiv,�
'11'
for which in
objectiorf va.,4 thatr it an in-
are A serious reilectiott upon Ills
the lion. gentleman knows, the
clicorfull every ObWation that coin6s,
fh�m 6r the inaint6ailbd of
betw;en Great Britain,:
idaftd. na the colonies, 0ul&
�111,SL ,of 16yaltv 110,
clib" (pdstio of
tOle advisabilfly of a customs ar-
between
0 ight he". friend adi-
dueenlent to England Dot to give 119 nTIJ1-
Righf� 11611; Joseph Secretary
IV
Nvn public )to have
-0
greafly stitnillat
I
groat
cildeavottred to keeup to the very
clicesp.
El TVADEL
colonios by. �Vhich trado thc
Cal colliplet ulid
, , ,
tllil,lg in retill,11., Down to flint hour tile
had on,'ttic bsof
of for the coloilles, in the prosonec
in effeA: What are
foull(Ctlicir dovoti6ji to the Throne a'hd
the perqon of their Sovot;ci�ii 'go
in qil( I
lltptbtkoll
'CE the
.807
lie, took in s nrne
Will lion. gendomon fell me if was:
1879�
1"mr '1�n bo, , laced on it 1110N,
ng t�larl that is" car-
lie touched th,
c Sol] or Englanal
bux E OF Ll�,T,
que4tion
of,. mutual fllc� object of
to1mit a n d
I
pradto do, i
you, A mforeace t6 Coln-'
ineilcial matters? I see, that a, coliferetice.
qiiickenod'b.�- flic inspiring events of re-
dent they quite freely givei
ulahitftiti file unity of file
of,
Tritin tO
tturli fdl' hot, and We (to.
ny piTfe i"It fordo ftom
to 0? ill, the
'3
0 Los,
"'til foreign coulltri
That ])onto. to the lin.
Well, Sir, dic
iiing, Clio tie of.
ellololy together eolonics and
best be done by
Of the Pr emicrs� of Autraia in
h, . n,
aving com
faVour it inis 'o , �ippolnted,'
�o silre
11 their blood, and of ft
fl).1-11 the, defence And the h6nour of th6
of the coln
of �V' be
si,,Q to r -r-
g, of aly inducements to the United
We in 18�8 801;64.1 worth of
to ea33ritin'. The, 60cse of the uhi�
resolution waq sent
p ord Roebety was at
of, Trade and'
C c
ornin vee read for the third or fourth
the could
n nd
the Empire bencfi�i'g us it *6 it, Ana i
o st
kild to, know if heseiti6 , yout
Empirp, in lande that ate fif,d*�y,
pol shoilli, c'Ou8ide"
final 6k satisfactory."