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HomeMy WebLinkAboutThe Exeter Advocate, 1894-7-26, Page 3DOMINION PARLIAMENT tnna LAwitwins IN colmou, liroseedlugs of The Senate and, Rouse of Oolnutons, New Bills 'Introduced and The Budget Debate Continued. TRE PREFERENTIAL TRADE QUESTION. Mr, McNeill—Before the orders of the day are called, I would like to ask will the Government instruet the Canadian delegates to the colonial eonforenee to endeavor ,to secure the co-operation of the Australasian and South African eom- raissioners in furtherance of that policy of preferential trade between the self- governing colonies of the empire aud the mother country, Sir join' Thompson said in reply: I think the Howe -will see that it would be inopporttuie for me to disease at the pres ent moment the question of the instruc- tions to the Canadian delegates to the intereolonial eonference, but the subjeet which the hon. member kas referred to is so immediately connected with the sub- jects which are generally -understood to be those likely to engage the attention of the conference that I think he may fairly assume that it is one that will not fail to be considered by the delegates during their deliberations. TIM ORDIMAL CODE. Mr. Martin resumed the adjourned de- bate ou the bill to amend the criminal code, after wbicb the House went into committee of the wholeto consider sev- eral amendments, TUE EDGAR SCANDAL. Mr. Edgar, on motion to go into supply complained of certain remarks which Sir Adolphe Caron had made a few days ago with reference to his connection with the so-called Northern railway corraption. fund. He said that Sir Adolphe had charged him with having handled the most corrupt eleetion fund known during the political history of Canada. He con- tended that his connection with the fund was quite honorable and. said that if Sir Adolphe -would take the trouble to ask Sir Frank Smith about it he would find that he (Mr. Edgar) had done nothing wrong, and had only received money from the company for services rendered. He called. upon Sir Adolphe to retract. Sir Adolphe Caron said, in reply, that since Mr. Edgar had recommended him to ask Sir Frank Smith's views upon the subject he would do so. SUPPLY. The House then went into committee of supply. Mr. McMullen made an attack upon the Intercolooial railway. and blamed the Government because there had been a deficit of 825,000 last year. Mr. Fraser said that he could not agree with Mr. McMullen, even though he sat upon the Opposition side. The road con- nected the provinces, and though it did not pay, it was doing a good work, and he would not grurable. Hon. Mr. Mills said that he agreed with the remarks of Mr, Fraser. No cone - plaint would be made so long as the freight and passenger rates were the same as on other roads. Hon. Mr. Haggart said that the road got lest per mile for its postal service than either the C.P.R. or G.T.R. These roads got $150 per mile for their main line and $80 per mile for their branches. Hoe*. ent. ROwELL'S EXPENSES. Mr. McMullen asked. how much Mr. Bowell's expenses had been in connection with his Australian tour. Sir John Thompson replied that these expenses amounted only to about $2,000. CANADIAN AGENT AT WASETNG-T6N. Mr. Charlton advised Sir 3 -oho Thomp- son to send a commercial agent to Wash- ington, He th.ought that Canada had vast interests at stake in the United States, and that it would be well to have an agent at the American capital to look after them. • PAREurm's POSTMASTER. Hon, Mr. Mills complained because Mr. Noble, late postmaster, had been re- moved from his office of postmaster at Parkhill and Mr. Hutchins placed. in charged. Sir John Thompson said that com- plaints had been made by the public as to Mr. Noble's management. The inspec- tor investigated and reported. Mr. Noble had. accepted another position in the Government service, ADJTJTANT -GENERAL POwELL's REDT- STATENDNT. Sir 'Richard Carttvright said that be- fore the next item was taken up he would like to hear what the Minister of Militia had to say with reference to the suspen- sion of Adjutant -General Powell. Hon. Mr. Patterson said that on Satur- day afternoon last he had been informed personally by Major-General Herbert that he had suspended Col. Powell. Major-General Herbert then informed him that he had sent him (Mr. Patter- son) a letter marked confidential upon the subject. To -day hs had received an- other letter from Major-General Herbert, alsomarked confidential. He did not wish to make public these letters, par- ticularly since Adjutant -General Powell had not been placed in a position to be able to reply. The reason briefly stated why the Adjutant -General had been sus- pended, he understood, was that he in- serted in The Canada Gazette an ad,ver- tisement without the sanction of the Major-General or of the initials upon the proof of the Minister. He had sent the following letter to Major-General Herbert this afternoon : OTTAWA, July 6, 1894. Dear General Herbert—I have your re- port of the 6th inst., respecting the sus- pension of Col. Walker Powell, I notice that it is marked confidential, as was also yotir report of the 30th Juno. You refer to this latter report as being official but I cannot regard a report marked confidential in that light. What I de- sired was such a report as, -without detri- ment to the public service, eould be sub - mated to Perliament, and which is soon as it had boon submitted would becorae the property of the press of the country. Upon eonsideration of the matter I do not aeom the cherge you specify against Colonel Powell as of sufficient gravity to Warrant continuing his suspension for longer period. You will be so good as to roe:Dye the suspension and reinstate him in his position as Adjutaxit,General. You will also please give directions that he be furnished with copies of your official re- ports to me, so as to give him an oppor- tunity of answering and explaining the charges agaiost him, with a view to suck farther action as may be necessary. Believe me, Dear General Herbert, Faithfully yours, (Signed) j. C. PATTERSON. Major-Gen.eral Herbert,C.13., Command ms g the Canadian Militia, Ottawa, Gat. Majer Sam Hughes asked. the Minister a Uhler -General Herbert had power to suspend Adjutant -General On the vote for penitentiaries, Sir John Thompson said the result of the recent investrgation had been fully to exonerate Warden La,vell. The aceountant was found to be to blame for the omission to make entries of certain transactions, and be had been disraissea. In the matter of the binder twine faetory, the Minister said it was expected that the profits would pay the expense of fifty conviets employed in that braneh. Several of- fers had been reeeived for this year's output, THE FRENCH TREATY, On the order being called for the sec- ond reading of the ,A.et respecting the French treaty, Sir Richard Cartwright asked: "Are we not to have sore° explanation on this subject?" Hon, Mr. Foster, who was received with loud eheers, said: I did not think my hon. friend would need any explanation after the treaty had been so long before the House, after it had been discussed one session, and allowed to remain over for another session for the eousideration of the members of the House. I do not know that I have -very much further ex- planation to make than that very full communication. which I made to the House on several occasions last year with reference to the treaty. There were one or two points whicb came up, particular- ly points upon which there were some little doubts with reference to the inter- pretation of the treaty. Some of these doubts have been set at rest, One was with reference to the item of fish pre- served in their natural form, poissons conserves au natural, and I was not at all clear in my own mind as to the meaning of that. If it meant, as I supposed at the time, simply fish in the natural state, it would have cut us off from the benefit of a very large industry in this Dominion in so far as the introduction and impor- tation was concerned, and that question was not definitely settledlast year, Fur- ther communications have been had, as will appear from the papers brought down, and that is now set at rest. Tiais class includes what is called generally "canned fish," which are not preeerved by th.e addition of other substances, suck as sardines; but preserved salmon and lobster, and all fish cann.ed or preserved in that way can come in unaer that clause. There was also a point of doubt with reference to the question of soap, as to what was meant by that—as to whe- ther that would allow any soaps to come into the country or not. It does not. I contended last year against some adverse opinions that it meant simply castile soap, and that is what has been upheld by the French commissioners in com- munication with Sir Charles , Tupper. These two points having been cleared away, we now approach the ratification of the treaty, and I am here today to move the second reading of this bill. Sir Richard Cartwright twitted the Finance Minister -with having changed his mind upon this subject since 1892. If anything could discredit the acquisi- tion of treaty -making power it was the vacillation and. discordance which char- acterized the policy of the Government. For himself, Sir Richard would not con- demn the treaty any raore severely than Mr. Foster had condemned it last year. We got very little and gave away a great deal; we gained some 630,000 in concessions and gave about three times that in return. Taking into considera- tion. the loss to the Canadian wine grow- ers, it was exceedingly doubtful if Canada was to be congratulated upon this first fruit of the treatv-raaking power. Col. O'Brien said, after re-enacting the old. treaty, it was remarkable that we should be found reducing the duties on luxuries like champagne. If we had any reductions to mak-e, let them be made in the tariff upon our trade with the Mother Country. He concluded by moving this amendment: "While this House is will- ing at all times to sanction any treaty which, on fair and equitable terms, will add to Canadian trade, it is maable to assent to the treaty that has been made with France, on the ground that it will notprove reciprocal in its results, in that it gives to France greater advantages than Canada receives, being unfair and unequal, inasmuch as, according to one of its terms, France is entitled to the benefit of all commercial advantages which Canada may hereafter give to any other foreign power, not merely in tariff matters, while Canada is only to partici- pate in any reduction of duty granted to any other power in any of the articles enumerated in the treaty. It is further unequal and unfair in this, that while any increase in the duties on the class of wines whieh 'antler it France is to have advantages in respect of, entitles France to denounce the treaty, Canada is not placed in. the same position should any increase be made by France in the mini- mum tariff winch is to be enforced so far as Canadian products mentioned therein are concerned; and in the opinion of this House it is unfair and unjust to the great mass of consumers that duties should be lowered, as by the treaty they are to be, on articles of luxury, while high duties are to be maintained on many of the necessaries of life, and this, too, at a -time when, owing to the falhng revenue, the duty can ill be spared. Mr. 3/lacdonald (Huron) follow. He objected to the treaty on the ground that Canada would give more than she would receive. Mr. McGregor objected to the treaty, as the representative of Oanadian wine producers. He quoted figures showing the extent of the Canadian wine industry and. contended that if the treaty was rat- ified this great industry, which should be proteeted by a Conservative Govern- ment, would he ruined Mr. Maclean (York) said that he spoke as a believer in the National Policy. He said that the Government was, or should be, a National Polley Government and should valise to ratify the treaty because it would notprove in the interests of the Canadian wine growers. If the National Policy was worth anything it should pro- tect, all classes of the public. JEs advised that in future, before negotiating trea- ties, the Gavernraent should take steps to And out the wishes of the people. Mr. Eliot opposed the -treaty as a con- sistent prohibitionist. He confited his aroma:tent to prohibition. objections. Dickey spoke also as a prohibition- ist. He said that he coald not SSG any provision in the treaty that an honest prohibitioniet might not vote for. Hon. agr. Mills opposed the treaty. He said that it provided that Canada should. not tea French wines more than a certain amount, While Prams° could raise at any time the amount of hex, minimum tariff against Canada, so long as she also raised her maximum, Mr. Cockburn opposed the treaty, Ire said that it would ruin the vine geowing laterests of Careada. He heel expected, instead of adverse legislation, =eh lzgis- lation as would betiefit all elasses of an- aciiaextl. Aline idYtsotrY' Csaid that there were certain men in the House, such as Messrs, Mr- Oarthet and. O'Brien who made it their buelness to vote against any and every- thing which savored of the French. TheY would go so far as to break Con- federation it they could, because there were Frencji people in it, They would vote against the treaty because it was with France, Mr. Girouard (Jacques Cartier) thought that Canada Was xn honor bound to rustily the treaty. Mr, Lachamelle eontinued the debate in Freneh, strongly supporting the treaty. Mr. Edgar described the treaty as gross- ly one-sided and unfair, The exports from Canada to tbe islands of St. Pierre and Miquelon were nearly as great as with France, and it was one of the extra, - ordinary defects of the treaty that trade with those islands was not affected by it. He moved that the following be added to Col. O'Brien's amextdraeut : "That it ap- pears from the papers laid before the ouse, and from the statements made to this House by the Finance Minister, that this treaty- was signed as to the most favored nation treatment without the instruetions of the Government, and, further, that the treaty was entered into under the erroneous impression on the part of the Government that the French colonies of St. Pierre and Miquelon would be affected by the treaty." Sir John Thompson welcomed Mr. Ed- gar's invitation that the treaty should be dealt with in a business -like manner, apart from sentimental considerations. Unfortunately Mr. Edgar's colleague had not acted up to the principles Jae laid down, but had. made repeated appeals to political prejudice. Therefore the House would disregard the argument which had been advanced at the outset of the debate by Sir Richard Cartwright, that the Gov- ernment had been vacillating about the business, and that the Government had been forced to ratify this treaty by out- side iuiluences, lathat were the facts with regard to the treatment or this treaty by the Government in the past? The charge of vacillation arose from the fact that last session the Government declined to ask the House to ratify that treaty. They had declined for the reasons then stated by the Minister ,of Finance. The fact was that the treaty- was only signed at Paris eleven days after the opening of last session. The House was only in session for sixty days after that treaty had been. siened. This fact, that so short a time had elapsed between the signing of the treaty and the length of th.e sessiotb, was sufficient to lay the matter over for an- other year. There were certain matters of interpretation that had to be set at rest, and this the Finance Minister had set before the House. Canada did not know whether her preserved fish would be allowed to enter France under the minimum tariff. Other questions were raised with regard to lumber and other matters' and these interpretations cabild certainlynot have beeu set at rest during last session. There was a special clause in the treaty whicb said that it should have no effect until it had received the consent of Parliament. Considerations of honor did arise from the fact that negotiatiorts preceding the treaty -were pat forward. and pressed upon her Maj- esty's Government. Her Majesty's Gov- ernment chose the accredited representa- tive of Canada in England as England's representative in the nogotiation of this treaty. Canada thus had not only se- cured a great advance in the treaty -mak- ing power, but Canada was really pub in the position of making her own treaty. trawler these circumstances there was a sense of appreciation of the advance of Canada regarding the negotiation of treaties with foreign countries. There was a sense of pride, which appealed to the sentiment, in the fact that Canada could secure from time to time the fullest measure of self government, and at the same time have close relations with re- gard to commerce and trade with the other countries along with the Mother Country, whose power and authority Canada had, as shown on this occasion, of making this arrangement with France. Hon. Mr. Laurier contended that under the treaty Canada received no advantage whatever, while she wave valuable con- cessions to France. ife said that the negotiations as at fast contemplated did not take place at all. All the advantages which would fall to Canada under the original agreement had been eliminated, and the present -treaty, barren of advan- tage to Canada, was the result. The Prime Minister had said. that there had been a bargain entered into between the representatives of Canada and France, and that this bargain in all honor should be carried out. Sir Charles Hibbert Tupper said those opposing the treaty had not hinted at any point where Canada could gain a better concession from France than she had got. The lumbermen of the Mari- tinae Provinces were exceedingly anxious that this treaty should be ratified. In the lumber interests this treaty would be of great advantage to Canada: There was an enormous trade to be built up be- tween the eastern provinces and France. There was no free trade arrangement in this treaty. Canada had a minimum tariff as well as France on these articles to be interchanged. Dr. Montague said he felt it his duty whatever his views of the treaty were, considering that Canada was morally bound to ratify it, to vote for its ratifi- cation. Mr. McCarthy opposed the treaty. He contended that this Parliament was not morally hound to ratify the treaty. This was a protectionist country. France was likewise a protectionist country. If by the treaty, in surrendering certaiii of our protectionist advantages, we did not in return receive certain advantages then the treaty should not be ratified. lie did not think that the advantages to be de- rived by Canada were equal to the snarl- fices she made tioder the treaty, Hon. Mr. Ouimet thought that it would be best for Canada to startil by the act of her representative upon the occasion of her first treaty, else she might waft fifty years before she would have the chance of negotiating another treater. The vote on Me. Edgar's amendment reeulted in its defeat by 51 for to 119 against. Col. O'Brien's amendment was then put and lost, 44 for, 128 Against. Hon., Mr. Laurier then moved an amendment condemning the Glovernmeot for hot carrying out its pledge to estab- lish a steamship line between Frauce and Canada,. The vote resulted in the de - of the amendment, 56 for, 109 against, The vote was then taken on the niain /notion for bhe second reading of the bill, which resulted as follows t 120 for, 41 against, TARTE% OIIARGES AGAINST POSSE, M. Tarte, on amtion to go into com- mittee of ways and means (speaking in Fren), took the opportunity of maltieg certain eharge$ as tb the administratiea of justice in tba province of Quebee. Be said he would have made them before, but his health for three months' past had WA been good, and he had hoped the Minister of Justice would have taken the initiative, on hearing the complaints that had been made in the provinee. If he was not able to go very far this year, he promised to carry the /natter further at a later date, when he had gathered the evidence together. He asserted that there was a regular reign of terror in the pro. vines, owing to the fact that for twenty years past the •judges had been chosen from one political party, Mr. Tarte then charged judge Bosse with partisanship and improper conduct in conn.eotion with the McGreevy litigatiou. He described judge Bosse as a veritable tyrant, and said he no longer possessed the confidence of litigants. Mr. Date's next accusation Was that Judge Ouimet, of Richelieu, had not resided in his district, as required by law. He then charged Judge Tellier of partisanship in withholding judicial ad- vertisements from The ljniola newspaper, attacking the provineial government from the beach when the Liberals were in power, and drawing illegal travelling allowances. He was not at present pre- pared to make accusations against other judges, but promised to make them later. Sir John Thompson said, in reply, tb.at m considering any qoestion affecting the honor or fitness of a judge, the House had a very high and delicate duty to perform. Two -weeks ago Mr. Tarte had made cer- tain statements in the House with refer- ence to the alleged combed of certain judges. He (Sir john) had received com- munications almost immediately after from two of the judges, who gave an un- qualified denial of all the statements which had been. made. They insisted, at the same ti' me that a thorough inves- tigation should be instituted. He had received a telegram from judge Bosse demanding an investigation, and deny- ing in toto the charges preferred. A. day or two later he had received a communi- cation from Judge Davidson making like denials and similar demands for an in- vestigation. They had both demanded that he (Sir John) should undertake him- self to accuse thein before Parliament of all the charges, rumors and insinuations that had beeu made, in order that a thor- ough investigation might be had and all the facts secured. His own view was that while the statements which had been made at that time were most offens- ive, yet, because of the lack of definite- ness, want of particularization, they were of such a nature that he could not ask for a parliamentary investigation. No- thing had been definitely charged. The hon. member had generalized; he had not specified in a single charge. He could not, therefore, see how he could demand an investigation. Mr. Tarte did not wish to attack their private character only; surely his object must ha-ve been to ha-ve a fair investigation into and criticism of their conduct; and that could only be had under the rules of Parlia,ment by means of specific charges. But here had the House been listening to Mr. Tarte charging against Judge Bosse in regard to the conduct of a certain. case in which Mr. Tarte himself was one of the liti- gants, charging him with partialityin having a certain case called before hire, in that the accused, if found guilty, would, when called by Mr. Tarte as wit- nesses, come discredited before the court. The gravamen of this charge, then, was that the judge had not conducted it to tb.e satisfaction. of Mr. Tarte. That was not an accusation of which the House could take the slightest cognizance. Let Mr. Tarte accuse the judge of making a wrong decision from corrupt motives and there will certainly follow a full investi- gation in the interest of justice. Pro- ceeding, the Premier translated the charges, showing that in regard to those against judge Bosse there was neither name, date nor accuser. So Mr. Tarte goes on to charge judge Bosse with hav- ing given decisions that were partisan, "to beneflt former political friends, un- just and arbitrary, and that he had A1SUrp8a the functions of the Attorn ey- General." These were statements that ought not to have been made in the House, unless specifically as to time and place. But he (Sir John) was placed in this position, that if he refused an inves- tigation he would leave the judges under the liability to calumny and. slanders. Therefore he would ask the House to be allowed to reserve his decision upon this point until a later date. Hon. Mr. Laurier said that the judges were only fish and blood after all, and composed of the same material after they went upon the bench as before. He did not intend by this, that he did not wish, to cast suspicion upon the judges in ques- tion, He would say, however, that the administration of justice in Qaehac was not what it should be. There were judges in that province whose ccuduct had brought disgrace upon the judiciary. Their conduct he would not say hall been actuated by other considerations than political motives, but certain of them had certainly shown themselves political partisans. Judges Bosse and Davison were not men he would include in the list. They were both able lawyers be- fore they had been appointed. They wore not political partisans. The only charge, as he understood it, that Mr. Tarte had nia,de against judge Bosse was that he was vindictive and hob tempered He agreed with the Prime Minister that it would be diaficult to hold an investiga- tion upon such charges, because of their vaguen.ess. Mr, Tarte had also charged :fudge Bosse with partisanship, Mr. Tarte might, if he had been hotter versed in parliamentary practice, have given more particulars; possibly he should have done so, but the charge was suffici- ent to warrant an investigation, and he was glad to know that judge Bosse him- self was anxious that the matter should be thoroughly sifted. Tbe charge against Judge Ommet was (Urea and specific. It was oharged that he had received money from the Government for travelling ex- penses fraudulently. Re did not care to speak too strongly regarding Judge Cal- mat, because the judge had ru..t boon heard, hut he thought that sufficient had been charged to warrant an investigation, Judge Tellier was eharged with haviag compelled litigants to publish notices in Conservativia newspapers, and not to pub- lish them in Liberal papers. This was partisanship unworthy of a judge, and should be examined ioto. This judge had charged travelling expenses ior 271 days, Taking into account Sundays, holidays, and the days he would be re- quired to hold court in his own distriet, it would be impossible for the judge to travel on more than 190 days, Thi e dis- crepancy should he investisrated. Hon, Mr. Curran said that Mae Tarte had proraisecl these charges long bong aglanlcoullPieaethat4ehadlheltinin wa topartieuiarizeet item, On the other hand, there had been. a skilful scheme of Vagueness preserved thrbughout Mr, Tarte's speeeh. This had been designedly done in order that the Government would not he ta a posi- tion to deal with the matte', although the judges themselves were anxious to have a fullinvestigation. Mx.Laurierhine- self had aeknowledged that the charges were not sufficiently dear, Mr. Girouarel (Tacquee Cartier) pointed out that one of the charges Mr. Tarte promised had already is,llen to the ground, that against Judge Davidson, Mr. Girouard then dealt with. Ile charges in detail. Finally, he described them as frivolous and futile, a mere pretenee for throwing rnud at the juilieiary of Quebec, beeause, in the discharge of their duty, they contributed to the over- throw of the Mereier Government, He protested against the way in -win& these charges were made, without due notice and at the end of the session. Even if the House sat another month or two mans, although he was anxious to go home and enjoy the octuntry air, he thought these charges should be investi- gated, not by a royal commission—we had had too many royal coramissions— but upon, the floor of this House. It was important to the administration of Jus- tice, to the people of this country, and to the judges eharged, that the charges should be investigated. Dr, Weldon pointed out the unfairness of bringing up charges in this way when it was impossible for the judges to reply to them at once. Mr. Teantrette followed in French. Col, Arayot said that Mr. Tarte had taken advantage of the privileges of Par- liament to slander a inan. Ono would imagine, to hear the vague charge, that judge Bosse had thereby done grave wrong; but Mr. Tarte had been forced to admit that if money was passed it was given to Judge Bosse before he was a judge. Mr. Belley followed in French. TED FAST ATLANTic LIND. Hon. Mr. Foster moven tne .ffouse into committee on the Past Atlantic Line bill. Mr. McCarthy asked if Canadian goods crossing the ocean by the fast line and entering France after the ship had touch- ed at an English port would escape the surtax cleentrepot. Hon. Mr. Foster said that they would not. Goods to escape the surtax would require to go direct. ' Sir Richard Cartwright asked if an absolute, speed of -twenty knots an hour would be guaranteed in case the subsidy were granted. Hon. Mr. Foster saia that the vessels would have a deep sea capacity of twenty knots, In the Anderson contract it was stipulated that the trial trip should. show a capacity of twenty knots, and that be- tween port and port an average rate should. be maintained of eighteen knots per hour. This allowed for decreased entering and leaving port. Mr. Gillies asked if Halifax and St. John had been doeided upon as the only ports to be considered in the question as to which should be the winter terminus. 11 ±1 had not been decided, he had several claims he wished to urge in favor of an- other port. Sir John Thompson said that St. John and Halifax had been the onlyports con - sale -red. Nothing had been don.e or noth- ing binding had been performed which would preclude the Government eonsidsr- ing the claims of any port. Sir Richard Cartwright asked if the Government intended binding itself to the subsidy for a longer period than ten years. Sir John Thompson said that there was no obligation beyond the ten years. Mr. Huddard's proposition was that, in ease anything was given after the teu years, it should. not be leas than the interest, on one-half of the capital of the company. The Government had not been empower- ed to make any contract extending for a Imager period than ten years. If any contract should be entered into for a further period, it wonld, of course, be subject to the ratification of Parliament. In any case, it would be greatly decrees - ed. The entire session of the House Mon- day tight was taken up by a discussion of Mr. D'Alton McCarthy's amendment to the Northwest Territories Act, by which the power to abolish separate schools would be given the Local House. The amendment was defeated by a vote of 114 to al. CANADIAN MINT. Mr. Mara seized the opportunity when. the House went into committee on Mr. Foster's bill to increase the Dominion bank note circulation to press upon the Government the necessity of esM,blishing a Canadian mint, and the increase of silver coinage, so as to encourage silver mining, and provide more mall change. He instanced the action of the Australian colonies in coining their OW71 money. Hen. Mr. Foster said that so far as national and patriotic sentiment was con- cerned he agreed with mint hall been said. It would be a good thing for Can- ada to httve a mint of her own and coin money from her own minerals, but there were other consideraiions to be taken into account. There was the question of cost. It was e,heaper to have our money coined in England. The silver money now used was nothing but a token currency. If a weal currency were substituted, it would be necessary to put in the coius an amount of silver corresponding with the face value, It would cause a great loss, necessitating, as it would, the withdraw- al of our silver now in circulation. Mr. Charlton was strongly in favor of the increased eirculation of Canadian silver. Ho said that at present nine - tenths of the silver in ciroulation in Can- ada was American coin. Mr. &river contradicted this state- 1:116nt': DiSprouts advised the Government to compel bhe banks to issue more small silver. There was a great scarcity in small coin, " Hon. Mr. Foster—We doubled the limit by the last Banking Act. Mr. McCarthy hoped that the silver demon was not going to be introduced into Canadian politics. He was opposed to an increase of silver circulation, Hon. Mr. Foster agreed that we had had tronble enough since oertain gentle- men had introduced tho dual language question into Canadian politics, and that we should not go in for a dual money question, The bill was then reported, Tina SWDATING SVSTEnt. Mr. Edgar, on motion to go into com- mittee of supply, said tbab he had no apology to offer for addressing the Honse 'upon the sweating system, which eo largely obtained ia Toronto, Hamilton, Montreal and other largo Canadian cities, A WARM WIDATIIDR ToPTC. 02111106.011 bto go into supply, Mr, Edgar, at the tristaaee of the Trades and Isabar Oceneil or Toronto, he said, brought up the matter of the sweating systeint a proeess whereby toil was extorted frein Men, weinea and (Jalapa& at starvation, rates, Re had read in the Toronto papers a deal about this; had made investiga- tions himself, and had obtained a state- ment of the results a cereful iumnry Mr. T. W, Banton. Proeeeding, he read from this paper artieles descriptive of visits to certain Jewish tailor shops in Toronto, where, in noisome quarters, hands were employed at wages varying from $1,5() to $8 per -week ; working some of them fifteen hours a day. Mr. Edgar went on to say that Toronto was the modd N.re Ca rt..%) . and clothing the most highly protected of all manu- factures. He would not say this was the result of the N.P, ; but there it was any- way; and, besides, it had produced, all sorts of anomalies, over -production among the rest, It protected everything and everybody but the 'worker. Canada is the last country in the world -where such thiegs should be seen, Mr. Coatswort h felt sure that Mr. Edgar did not desire to insult many of the citi- zens of Toronto, the city where be got his living. Be did not doubt that the instances referred to, where the sweating system was in vogue in Toronto, e ere true, but a man who would, attempt to make political capital out of these wirer.- tunate people ought to be ashamed of himself. He thought Mr. Edgar had magnified this evil. Mr. Coatsworth then said it was only in one line of business where there was any suggestion of sweating, and this was in bile maimfacture of clothing; 3 et Mr. Edgar had said he had mentioned only one line of business. He (Mr. Coatsworth) regretted that this evil had crept into Toronto, but he believed that it had been magnified. The evil had Come about by the demand for cheap goods owing to promises of the free traders Of the coun- try. This was a matter that ought to have been brought before 1 he Local House, because the tariff had nothing whatever to do with sweatt•hops. 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