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The Rural Voice, 2004-03, Page 22the vegetable production goes mostly to local Stratford and London restaurants and to Danfield's Organic Market in the Covent Garden Market in London. "Dan (of Danfield's) has built up a loyal following in London for our produce. We're sort of developing this great relationship with people who are at the top of their craft in artisanal products like cheese making and bread and our salad and Dan is offering products you can't get in a big box super store. John points to the wine industry as his example of how to change the market by going after quality. The wine industry was supposedly sacrificed in the Canada-U.S. trade agreement because it was felt Canadian vineyards and wineries couldn't compete with lower-priced U.S. product. But leaders in the wine industry decided to focus on top quality wines and revolutionized the industry. He sees opportunities for other farmers as well. "The longer we're in the business the more we discover that there's so much we can grow up here but it's almost a lack of imagination on the part of the growers to try something different. There really isn't that much (they grow) in northern California at least, that we can't grow here. "Some growers in Simcoe, for instance, are now growing peppers and using their tobacco kilns to dry peppers." John spoke with an tobacco grower and asked if he had ever thought of growing the small french onion called shallots and the man had never heard to it. "Well let me put it this way," John told him. "I get 50 cents a pound for onions. I get $2.50 a pound for shallots. You grow them the same way." The grower admitted that if growers in his area ever really started looking at alternatives they could beat up on California competitors. "And they should," John says. "(Tobacco growers) have so much technology and know-how of how to keep a clean field. They are in the vanguard of mechanical cultivation." That's one of the things that organic growers can learn from conventional farmers, he says. Soiled Reputation is a certified organic operation and Antony and 18 THE RURAL VOICE Tina are strong opponents of chemicals. "1 have a degree in wildlife biology so an eco -system approach has always come naturally for me," John says. Even before starting a commercial operation the couple had grown their own vegetables organically for Flavour reasons even more than for health reasons. Supporters of conventional agriculture argue there is no greater nutritional value in organic vegetables than conventional vegetables but that's not the the issue, he says. "The issue has always been there's much less to harm you in organic food than conventional. Having said that it's possible to find poorly grown examples in both systems. "But for me it's always been about flavour. We have kids who have no political stripe one way or another who say that the carrots we grow taste better than the carrots they have in the supermarket. To me that's an unbiased opinion." Still, he is understanding of conventional farmers who he feels aren't so much proponents of chemical use but are forced into their use by the the North American cheap food policy. "I'm sure if it were more profitable to grow large grains and cereals organically they would do it if they could do it easily. "Organic farming encourages you to look at more than a cause -and - effect relationship between between problems in your field. Aphids in your soybeans may be a symptom of another environmental problem other than just aphids eating soybeans. Certainly in my greenhouses, when I see aphids in my lettuce, it's a sign that the lettuce is under water stress or nitrogen stress — that the plants aren't incorporating the free nitrogen in their tissues into plant tissue and the aphids are locating that by smell and feeding on it, They are actually a secondary stress on that lettuce plant. So I either water the plants or increase the light level or add nitrogen compost to the soil to get them growing." It would be interesting to see someone conduct a test plot for soybeans and irrigate plants to see if there were as many aphids in the irrigated plot, he says. John's television stint came about from a dinner party conversation with a woman seated next to him who worked in television. "She said she was looking for ideas and I made an off-the-cuff remark about why don't you do a show on this organic grower who keeps a journal and describes the seasons on his farm an then cooks with the produce he grows on the farm. "Three weeks later a producer phoned me and said 'Are you serious about this'. Then it took about a year for this producer to start opening doors in Toronto for us to do a demo tape for The Food Network and for them to get underway." The result was the 13 -episode series The Manic Organic which was a revelation for the farmer -turned -TV star. Every 22 -minute episode took about three days to tape. "We were averaging about 14 hours of shot video tape for 22 minutes. 1 felt like I was doing a horrible job but I'm, told that's apparently the norm." If the run on House and Garden Network goes well, there will likely be a second season. Already The Food Network has agreed it will sign on for another season of co -production. Between 30,000 and 80,000 people watched each episode of the first season on The Food Network. "I love it." John says of the work. "I think in a lot of ways I'm a born show-off. It was great fun. In fact I think some of the funniest hits got left in the editing -room. "Farmers are by their nature a very independent group of people and this was a new experience for me to have to work with a team of people who had to answer to a higher mandate. There were days when it came down to 'just indulge the primadona farmer and let him do what he wants and we can cut it out later'," he jokes. "They wanted it to be very, very food based and 1 was more anxious to turn it into a kind of entertainment, comedy -drama kind of thing. Certainly as the episodes progressed The Food Network was letting me get away with more and more." John and director Craig Thompson have tried to use the program to introduce viewers to other