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• WEDNESDAY, MAY 12, 1976 THE LUCKNOW SENTINEL, LUCKNOW, ONTARIO PAO'S' TINPLVIE
gat Oral History IS All 'About"
BY SANDY NICHOLSON
Oral History • is a method of
collecting and preserving historical
information by interviewing with 'a
tape, recorder. The Archives of.
Canada, the Archives, of the
Provinces and some organizations.
in Canada have started to collect
. and ,preserve these •tapes. Unfor-
tunately, all Archives have, been
" unable to get enough funds to do
the essential work they mist do
- and they do not have funds to have
anyone on a,salary to interview the
people who have made •hi:Siory and
'should be interviewed.
While I was Minister of Social
Welfare in. Saskatchewan, 1960-64,
I was responsible for the Geriatric
Centres and the supervision of all
the Nursing Homes. During that
period I interviewed a number of
pioneers 'as a volunteer for the
Saskatchewan Archives. Sine
retiring. in Toronto in ,1973 I have
volunteered to interview some of
my friendi for the Archives. The,
Archives would supply the tapes
and make a copy available to the
people interviewed. The United
Church and 'the Canadian Medical
Association Archives have since'
been keen to get copies-of the tapes
'of friends of interest to them.
Since I was born in 1900, I have
known seine very interesting
people. Those interviewed include
two well known Doctors, Bob
McClure and Wilder Penfield of
Montreal. I' started, to, interview
Victor Johnston over a, year ag'o,
but we bCith decided we would do it
over again. He phoned me long
distance about 48 hours before he
aied,, asking me to come to
Lucknow as soon as Possible .to do
the interviewing again. He was
•getting a tape recorder and would
be interviewing, for the Medical
Archives, eight Huron, CouritY
Doctors and he ,would like some
tips froni me. I'm very , sorry
Victor's voice will 'not be in' the
Archives.
I have friends in all 'political
Parties,- and interviewed Hon. M.
J. Coldwell a month before he died.
Hon. Syl :Apps was interviewed
While in the Cabinet, I did not
know' that he had been Canada's
champion pole Vaulter before he
was captain of the Maple Leafs and
one of the finest hockey players of
all time, Murray Gaunt M.P.P.
was interviewed, partly because of
himself, but especially for his,
forbears, pioneer settlers in Huron
and Bruce. Much has been written
about all of these, but our tapes are
the, only records the ArchiVes will
have of their voices, telling how
and why they happened to do what
they did.
This article is prompted by a
remarkable person whose name
has rarely appeared in the Sentinel,
Annie Ross Macintyre. . Our
interview in December 1975was
one of the most enjoyable I have
done. You see that she is in good
company with . those mentioned
above. Unfortunately, the' head
office of the Presbyterian Church
does not have a full time Archivist
or any program to collect this type
of history.
More than one hundred of her
friends had a party on April 3rd' to
mark her .80th birthday which was.
on March 24, 1976. A few
impromptu remarkS made at the
party resulted in several requests
for me to write sonfething,
Annie's grandparents, Alexand-
er Ross and Ann McLeod, were
born in the IS,le of Skye and curie to"
Prince EdWard Island about 125
years ago. Annie's father John.
was born there and was abbut two
when the family moved 'JO let 1,.
concession 5, .Kinloss. There was
no,school available until John
was 8: By the time he was 12,
when there were 7 other• brothers.
and sisters and they were expect,.
ing a baby, he brought home the
measles. His mother caught the
disease and she and the baby died.
Alexander never married again.' .
With . the help of John and the
eldest daughter, they raised the
family. When John, married
Emily MacDougall, he brought the
bride to live in the log house with
him and his father. Annie's
happiest and earliest recollections
were about Grandpa Ross. He had
a great way with children., He lived
with them 'for the rest of his life.
As he grew older, the datighter-in-
law could not have given her own
father more affection..
The only other' of the eight
children to stay in;Kinloss was the
youngest daughter, Mary who,
married. John MacMillan who spent
their lifetime 'on the same conces-
sion. Hugh.. their eldest son, was
my last teacher in public school and
was, chiefly responsible for, my
following his example in becoming
a minister. He and his wife
Donalda spent most of a lifetime in
Formosa as missionaries. Ross and
his wife Chrissie MacKenzie
ed from the family farm. George
was a carpenter, arid. Clarence, a
well known Toronto. Doctor. The
boys have all died. The 'other
members of the Ross family moved
to various parts of Canada and
there are many distiaguished
•descendents of Alexander and Ann
Ross all across' Cariada and United
States.
Annie's maternal grandparents,
Angus and Margaret Lamont
McDougall, were also born• in Skye.
They came dirctly to Canada and
Kinloss -Township, taking lot 1,
concession 2, Kinloss. • This
happens to, be one of the very few
Kinl‘ss, jprins on; which a descend
ent of the original settler resides.
Freda (MicDougallYMacInnes is a
granddaughter. The first night
that MacDougalls were at DuillOps,
Goderich there was a great ,crowd
of settlerS with people, sleeping all
over. 'At 'the suggestion of Mrs.
MacDougall, Angus gave his bed
roll, to a poor woman, with a • sick
baby and. he slept on the ground.
He caught cold and never had as '
good health again. He spent the
last 18 years of his life bedfast, his
wife giVing him the best of care.
The year • before Emily was
married, a sister died leaving seven
children without mother or fath&r.
There were only two of 'the 9
MacDougall children at home, at
the time, Emily and John, Freda's
father, but they took the 7 'children,
age 10 months•to 18, and they were
given the same care as Margaret
had given Ifieir own children.
Emily consi4ered postponing her
marriage, but brother . John and
Grandma insisted, they could man-
age.
These Were the days • before
family allowances, old age pen-
sions and welfare. One• of the
•children said years later, "How did
you ever manage, Grandma, did
you not consider putting vs out. fief-
adoption?" "Oh we couldn't de
that*, we loVed you all, You might'
go to a home where you were not
loved and you would not get a
Christian upbringing,"
Annie later married William
MacIntyre of the 4th of Kinloss and
went as a bride to Saskatchewan.
The story of the life daring the
to:
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drought and depresSion 35 miles
from -town and doctor will wait for
anotherAirne. They, with their son
Donald John, returned to take over
the- MacIntyre farm after- Archie
and Norma and, children came
down where Donald and Marilyn
and children are living now. After
William's death and Annie was
over. 65, she was looking forward to
taking life easier.• Jessie.and Annie
MacKay had reached the point that
they could not manage alone.
Their niece and nephew from
Edmeniton could not come down to,'
care for them. The, only alternative
was to sell 'the house, all• their
treasurers and move them to
Walkerton. There was just no one
willing to take the job of looking
after two elderly folk.
Annie MacIntyre was finally
persuaded to try for a month.
Things 'went so well that each
pleaded ,"Annie you can't leave
us." And she didn't for ten long
years. She remained with them till
they both died and gaiie them the
same loving care she has given to
everyone. Annie and Jessie had
ten of the best years of a long
lifetime. I know' of no one over 65
who ever undertook such a difficult
assignment:.
That is what oral history is all
about.' Thank you .Annie fot
making this valuable contribution
to Canadian history.
LANGS1DE
Some of, the ,Holyrood Girl
Guides . met at the, home 'of Ann
WAster Saturday' • afternoon to'
work on some, of their projects for
badges including a hike through
the country.
Mrs. Bongertman attended the
trousseau tea at Mrs. Pearl
Whitehead's in. Teeswater
honour of her daughter Ruth,
bride-to-be.
Mrs. Eugene Gardner, Sandra,
Greg and Shelley of Lucknow and
Ken Young of Langside, visited on
Sunday with Mr. and Mrs. Wesley
Young.
Mary Bongertmari, Listowel and
Helen• Weirsma of Palmerston,
both spent the weekend at the
home 'of „their parents. •
Mrs. Robert Stewart of Teeswat-
er, formerly of Langside, plans to
visit her sister in London on Friday
and both plan later to attend the
Tulip Festival in Ottawa.
Special Mother's Day service
was held in Langside Presbyterian
Church On SundaY with several
members of the congregation
taking part: Seven junior girls sang
"Pass My lave Around" with
Nancy de Boer at the organ. •
The Langskle-Whitechurch
Young Peoples - held their regular
meeting at Whitechurch Sunday
evening.
The Langside Ladies' Aid will
hold their monthly meeting on
Thursday evening at the home , of g .
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