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THE HURON SIGNAL, FRIDAY, APRIL 2, 186.
.., ar{arra
t1, via yes eensider at that time be yo'a can reeuilact 1 A. He wanted the .sy u.,, it could ad ha
>N. eewrreu'•nperra. .0 put people ill the meetieg to acku•.wleige Woodman and Tidy refer to wnwaberemse life a d
noted i h. hal acted when y• shine,whioh occurred
ng at the t�eltl"'1'
Er
teeviEnud from third pass.t
knee him us Jt]y .•r August with refer- him as • prophet eta M vise them to
b.,rd.nou, celled for the c'wwn. Lot Rhes it kit and flat he was prophesy- her, lard Knkiwe vas retained t . 'I•-
hied the • irit o
error to the priests and rvlgv.u' A. !�s, widrntrud th+: he I� fend
� • can whu indicted his heather
us hear what be said about Kiel he acted eery us n ulb.twise. ensue
te>,.
Q Now,
at the came you spoke
to ou pyw, uta your mastery pat., y Lord Erskine salt informed , 1 the l
Dim..gsraint( tha'tormattuo of • Oov• you to say what he end at that tone um Now, S'r, it is r •vel mamilest Lowy }« friss imprtm•amewt in • m.d tows.
peculiar kine«towasr thea nen s dsit1siib .I
eminent, did fie give you say idea of the rite March. ill his dilkoelly eithh these satinets that ,.n the w►jecta ofwith •view 01 exposing ht. hdluei-
wlin I -A. It wits ,.0 the 18th reliztou rued peluw sod guveinmenr,
what kine °I, a (' . t M ptroo aur- Father M• Luis l..al . i.rtatuod most eitra•.rdt ear a 1Jn he en few eeued heat a the uri
farming 1 - . Yss, h• vias going to dtv-
much.
pe the country intoeseven parts, nue that re used
what took place, then that weeds tarn to be w daluuuw whk with
the
b b• wholly wwnsuteat with the uses bus �rw*bele
( �tiuci, m1d 6nknu
. His sto „ogre
fart was le be for the Canadians, or were aced and haw . acted on that w two to a of • eyelid and ntioael tuind.
white settlers, one-seventh, another sec. ucceawu' A. He said the tiYint cal Gni could ten budge him, amnio at last, Dr.
bred-
d Tether Aluuliu said be we lets agate, for the stet. of Xaa the i.bysicats u( t! ( ;aatttutt•on,
towilimee
e
o d•viewh Tie mantle of
' he is the 1, ofd and Saviour o' mwkin
•nth for the Imditns, another seventh or „as tri hon ro •
over what s came then th.t twarL room, and aid to
the halfbcing t and he named was making a tnRome had est able thumb, try, s rel prince, Lel was athe *•overlie
he vita gwnv to do with the rest, I don t and Kiel said Rome had twablad, Leo" l.t°yursl p h M V
recollect the moues of the people. ' .d ember
l'l:ilih Uartttt for the defence said; "l,l. 1'rn-.e•d of you p'ea.e, he said the
i ..f Russe was not legally 1'upe'
.
'fell eft *hat iso mw .Wont that Pope
as Rr ss yuu can remember 1-A. He A .Ye•He said the episcopate spirits had
was talking about the c.tuntry being div- me sad Ghee into the pmts had
hwest
idea irto seven provinces, one for ti.• left ? ell a to be did not art
French, Germans, Irish, and 1 don t Territories ret that
know what else, there were to be seven that Did he .•) anything
different nationalities. yrekind 1-A. He mid the Spirit of God
"Q. Do you you have m anything rise visa its him and that Rona had tumbled,
besides these have inns. td, whet and he could tell future events.
other foreigners 1 Italians.
• 14. Hengsnsna 1 --A 1 cant remem- Charles Nolo said :
..The •itness s asked if the prisoner
bet u different
eery c�swet,, I knew t was eves told him that he considered homed
forest
seven different pn,vinc.s, sad seven dd-
ftrest mitionaliti es. an •ssut
' 'Q Did h. say he expectedY
ease from the steel sewst tip front tnieie
them,
Mined he e:p.eted
he mentioned he expected the assistance
.,1 an army of several ,atiunaltties, aced 1
remember he mentioned the Jews. He
expected their assistance aid money, hr
was going to give them • province aa •
reward for their beep. That is what 1
understood him to my.
•
"Q ir. his conversation with you, or
with others in your presence •n these
subject., did he at any time give yuu
any intimation that he obstacleany coulddoubt
f
his suocess, thlanyld e-
vent him from succeeding 1-A
he
always mentioned that he was going to
succeed, that tt was • divine mission that
he had,and that he wan only an mitre=
ent is the hands of God.
"Q. When he talked of other matters
than religion and the suocees of his
plans, how did be act and talk general-
ly ? -A. I never noticed any difference
in his talk on other matters, because 1
never had much intercourse with him
only during the time of the trouble, I
met him once before that.. • •
"Q. When he spoke of religion nd
about t•with country, i nd or o then, aide
Alt
interviews )
you
understood that be had any idea of
thinking of the welfare cf anyone -at all
except himself. that be was the sok per-
son to be cort•idiesd te-. Tissesa I W
if he was working is the interest of the
balfbewd pi.pulstion and the settlers
generally.He mentioned that.
"Q you communicate to anyone
y. ur impression of this man -what you
thought of tont 1- A. I d.d.
"What did you think of him 1-A. 1
thought the man was crazy, because he
.cad very foolish. -
Vital Fourmond for the defence said :
"Q. Will you please state upon what
fasts you based your opinion that the
prisoner was tint sane on religious or pol-
itical matters 1- A. Permit me to divide
the answer into two, the facts befcrethe
rebellion, and the facts during the re-
bellion. Before the rebel.tun it appear-
ed es if there were two men in the prts-
oner ; in private conversation he was
affable, pulite, pleasant sod a charitable
tan to me. I uotic d that even when
he was quietly talked to abut the affairs
..f politics and guvernmect and he was
not contradicted, he was quite rational,
but as hewn as he was ountradict.d cn
these subjects then he became • different
man, and he would be carried away witL
his feelings. He would go so far as t..
use violent expresmioas to those who
were even his beet friends As moon as
hellion commenced then ne became
eacted and he was carried away and
prophet,• and be said yen.
"The witness ie asked if after the imf
something strange did not happen-
there was not a question of the Spirit of
Oud between the wltnese and the prison-
er t The witness says it was not after ters
droner, but it was one evening they
e
spending the night together at his house,
and there was a noise in his bowels and
the prisoner aakece him if he beard that,
and the witness says yes, and then the
prisoner told him that it was bis liver,
and that he had inspitat1on body.h �
eft through every part
'• roe witness asked if at that moment
the prisoner did not write in • book whet
he was inspired uf, and to witness an-
swered that he did not write iniheboot,
but on a sheet of paps
was
inspired.''
w het, Lord ,:gtkln! "Thi• man Detlev. s that
pontiff.
. priest, a ling. ` Erskine addressed the witness ebo WS'
bad 1shea upon him. The, sewer confli of the
psy►vcI that with•t.w: the ounitcta aro l,rus•ciiUu, hie brother, in that char$
tutintels Vf cuautlem recolut .'t.s for ter, lamenting the indecency of kis
2,000 years, and that stands t.day as tgeorant exanunatnom. At once the man
fresh and vigor's ea ever, sea to fall fur,' t hnnaelf. 1n the lace of the whole
before the es•i+a.I arm of Luis Rod. ouuit he expressed his forgiveness to
He wan tneptted of God. If could fore Lord Erskine for the mistake he had
tell Velure events and was ill constant I made. and said : "1, in truth, am the
Christ," and that was the nun's wan de-
lusion. in everything else he was per-
fectly
r
fectly sea.. Now, I say that lura
Erskine might have
that trent for a week or mouth, and to
every answer he would have received a
stue and rational reply until he touched
the mau'• peculiar delusi,.m,
mumeot he touched that his Mutiny sp-
as clear as the no ondey son.
ad that mall been tried in a Canadian
court for • political crime and been
prosecuted by this Government, he
would haveconvicted,
c ommunication with spirits of the unseen
world. He was to redress the wrwses of
humanity, and eepeeialll was he to right
the of the halfbr.eds, and, as
ne believed, aided by the Almighty thee•
was to such thing as failure ta. hu mis-
sion. And yet it is argued in the prem,
en the public platform, cat Parlament,
that Louis Ksl was • sane sod res`„asi-
ble being. One or two thine. apex'
r to
my mind imceutrove table. Either L ens
b test fraud and the most
Icons
Manchester House
NEW FIRM.
••,d-nia,nt
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J. A. REID & BRO.
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\'e have plea..ure in infortning our C'Ystomers, anti the
general public that we have now received a Large
oin-
plete SPRING STOCK of General Dry t.itwJ'. Tweeds, kc.
During the ('learing Sale. prior to the dissolution of
partnership of the late firm of Iteid & Sneyd, the stock was
nearly all cleared out ; as the result of thi•t, we are enal.led to i
show for the: coming Spring An Entirely New Stock.
'We have hal our Store ' nlarged, and with increased
facilities for the display of Goode, we are showing a LARulut
pd Berrelt Aaeittt*T E T than usual.
I. DRESS GOODS and PRINTS, we show sotrte Spe-
Ri•1 wast a gree . sial Liner, in the Newest Shades (fur Cottons, Skirtings,
omtata actor that ever walked the bsen because, ' 1 Towelings are CHEAPER
Cottonades, Linens, Towels and
human stage or else be was a mad�a ander the theory hum, gentlemen op
insane uu refgiva and politica, to are seting upon, if he could do than can be had elsewhere. We are selling a Good Factory ■
therefore, one who night not to be exile palate ah between right and wind , he Yard
fraud. In my judgment he was net • ting responsible to the laws of his Cotton for 3c. per yard, and a Heavy make Wide,
would bo
food ; M was not the mostppolitical
t sate country wbtch he had violated. Another
1 .tt that ever ted the «stains► staff• given byWoodman and Tidy, for 6 and 6c. Towelings from 6c. per yard, up.
instance, R
I shall now endeavor M asstain the prim u the sass of a man who was tried be Special attention will be given to the TAILORING • -
•piss of law which I terve laid down, e, fore Lord Mansfield for a very serines {
&ted fe can establish
bearing h chi• cake, grime In order 10 teet Our mast's taw• : PARTM ENT. \\•e are now showing the Choicest Steck of •
and if I can establish that then I _bink 1 tsl condition Lord Mansfield examined t
bl' h t pnawesioe day,and h Id writ • Tweeds and Coatings in town. (;o .d All -Wool Tweeds
same delusions on religion awes ha answers wen
Then we have the evidence of the v.ser-
able priest who has devoted hers Ands
the service of the L.rd,
who sate
•'Q Yee have bad occasion to meet
the prisoner between July, 1884, and the
time of the rebellion 1-A. Yea.
"Q. What is the tame of your parish ?
-A. Prince Albert.
••Q Have you had oocasiou to speak
often to him oc the political situsrton
sod on religion ?-A. Frequently ; it
was the matter of oar conversation.
••Q Did you like to speak of religion
sad volitive with kio 1- d `'t, 1 did
not tike fw - an the !Maas why
"Q. Wilt yes gin
pee did net like w Beak of religion and
polilos to him t -A. Politics and reit
gioa was • subject he always spoke of io
conversation, he laved those subjects.
••Q. Did he speak in • seaible roan-
nor
to hien to
hose s bjed not like
eccts Up-
on all other natters, literature s°d
*cieftce, be was in hts ordinary state of
mind.
• Q Upon political subjects and r.•
ligiou 1-A. Up.0 taolitia and religion
he was no longer the same man ; it would
seem as if then were two men in him,
be Lost all control of himself on those
questMwa
"Q. Wb.o be spoke of religion and
political -A. Yes, on those two matters
he lost all control of himself.
"Q. Do you consider, after the con-
versations you have bad with him, that
when he spoke un politics and Aret oe
he hail his intelligence Many
times. at least twenty times, I told him,
I would not speak on those subjects be-
ceise be was • fool, be did rut have his
intelligence of mind.
•'Q. I. that the practical result you
have found in your conversation with
Riel on political and religious questions?
nce.
"Q. You have had • good deal ofex-
Mn satisfactorily esti s • _ him fors whole • he _ t
that Loos Kiel, entertaining t politico, discover in bis the slightest teres of 1
iroru 3bc. per Yard, up. [Nrr•i- bought from its will
be 1
rel' ein swi ainsanity clear and ;
was not . responsible being with regard rstiunal '• until the pneoner'• phys- ' f Cut out Free of Charge. Suits Made to Order in First-
to • creme within the scop. ret those their
Woodman and Tidyto their clan came into the court and .eked him Class Stele and Workmanship, at Lower Pricer, than ever be-
woklesions. what had become of the prisoess wi* i 1
work of Forestate Yledici°s at pap 867, whom he had corresponded in sherry 1 fore offere'1
.,Oso . wibell my : juice. Instantly, the prisoner
forget
11 h ilst tat er himself, and Mid "It s tro., I
h t the toastis
veva that hs u y of Ink,
by s devil, whilst another
tined to a castle, where, er . Collars Etc.
true the Trinity." I wade letters in cherry pain ten INGS, Hats, Scarfs, Ties, ,
And at page 824 the Mme authors my: t►. priscess. and threw thorn i� l
"Religion and polities are enumerated stream blow where the potions iasis- With our experience in buying, and intimate acyoain-
y all writers on inaarity as • muse of .d them in a boat." That was the MIN fence with the }tent markets of Canada together with ample
ineasity,,. cob delusion, sod it settled lis efts d feel testified in saving that we
once. But if be had been tried in C.- capital to buy for hash, we j $
Wharton and Stillest pap 1 h say ' nada wader the direction of the Govern- .
A oemtnen went, he would have ban•
felt) believes then to act M u datsg_s d distinguish right Rowe �. bdishasent in the County,
done by the immediate command of fist; M. the she race to soother case
end be acts ands the delusive but aa• eke, ea medlar works on medical ,
and the kw repo rte, hoe .\We respectfully request an inspection of our Stock, and
Dere belief that what he u doing u by �\t"~"'
I ttrlWtithanking those who kindly patronized the late firm, we
,will endeavor not only to retain. but increase that patronage ;
Iby Welling Good-'. at the Very Lowest Prices. t
j � f
Highest Price paid for Butter and Eggs.
\\-e have the latest Novelties in MEN'S FURNISH -
arc offering a selection of (fonts unsurpassed in value by any
t which
of nature." toed' b
treason, in shooting at Her Majesty t •
In such a case the man acting under de- Qum h Edward Oxford was a mea
h. command of • eapener power. w K not some across tbo ease of Edward Ox -
all barman haws and the laws who was tried, 'n 1840, for !Sib
luaion u not tespon•ibla The come who entertained psauliar dreams, be was
authors my, at page 829 :
a tan of bad heart and ill -regulated roun-
"Remember that mental derstandin so far as one eon judge
on one point dose nut always mean In- the evidence. The delusions under
t all points. In other words, a which M labored bear in ever) festsn
sanitmoo may be •ct y asps •
'ng business • his brain may hare all its According to the report of the trial,
w
Il unsound,and his moral unsound- -alio° • b• was to beptm. •great urs ;
y
on
peri 1 bee of mania -striking parallel te those of (.nor Iii.L
i
intellectual vigor and yet he may be Oxford was a great mom in his owe sett -
tion y un
uses may lead him into came." he was to bootees famous at a single
The authorities show that mea laboring band ; he was to booms Admiral Sir
ander these limited delusions are quiet Edward Oxford, although be had never
and inoffensive except when opposed or beeu at sea and never underguue any
exwhat
cited upon. ntheir dee/alone are traitaine that subject, the Ri.l was to hs..er He was to b. tr. Let us heprince
evidence
pun
evidsmce i• perfectly clear that except o(• new whoa, the arbiter of th�� •s-
upou to questions of religt•o sod poll tiny of England and Canada ; h.
to
tea, Rid was quiet, inoffensive and be the sovereign head of a new church ;
rational. He coetended that he came to be was w establish a new nationality div;idn
the Northwest to fulfil • mission and be to Northwest, composed
ef andvise invited to oome there. A delegation 1 Iter.. be was the
of the employes of the Government west
to Moslem' and brought him thee.. He
thereh.
A. It s my experience. was there for mine time talking in the
hestwayI have pointed out by the evidence,
tem e. control i of htfar, that
when
bis people, and you have anlaboring ander those manifest dela-
temprr. He went eh that a qn • knownce so s who were affliced with Mons. But we bare this startling fact to
nim !known p.t'
elici
father contradicted him a became q mama 1 _ -A. Before answering that, I show that Louis Rid was no trailer to his
and he
and he had no respect dest for him want W state a fact to the court retard- Sovereign: that •tap.►licesestang where
churches
ottttm threatened to destroy all the n t• .over. You know the life of 180 balfbreeda were present, in open
fyou, Fie says :There s danger 1 nR Drs
for you, but thanks for the friendship 1 that man affected us during •certain fight of day, he made s •Pesch• is
lima concluding that speech he proposed the
any harm-
you, I will protect 10 you from "Q. In what way 1-A. Ho was a fee health of our Sovereign Lady theQ..i0.
end harm- (eta went to St. An, sed vent C•tholie, attending the church and Can it be argued that • man. taking that
and then I met •numbs of priests, ftd atendtn to his religious duties free line of conduct, was a traitor 1 What-
ever he may have beim, it is quite s4ni-
fest that he was not • traitor to the
Queen. No doubt h. was • traitor to
this Goverement. If that constitutes
came, which deserves the punishment
of death, then all I can may is, that he
aimed with • host of loyal Canadians..
On the theory of insanity, the authority,
to whish I have just referred, states
further :
Kiel says : I have been appointed by the
council to be your spiritual ad•taer. I
Mid our spiritual adviser was the Bish-
op, and Mr. Kiel would not be him.
There u only one way yon can be our
adviser, the only way you can become so
s by shooting us, the only way yeti can
direct us is by shooting us, and then
you can direct our corpses in any war
you like. That was my answer to him. '
Such are the .,pinions of Laois Kiel,
as disclosed by the evideuce et the trial,
before and at the time ..f the rebellion.
Let me summarise them : 1. His own
mission was t.. redress the wrongs of the
halfbreed•. 2. The country was to be
divided into seven porttous and parti-
tioned among the Bavarian*, Poles, Ital-
iana, Germans, inch, Hungarians and
Jews. 3. tie was to conquer England
and Canada ; Quehec to be given to the
Pruum ns, Ostaric. to the i nsb, and the
Northwest Temtrry divided among oth-
er nationalities. 4. He never appeared
to .lt.emtiou his success. 6. He was, in
his own judgment, to potentate -the
sovereign o1 the land. and could diapes.
of it at pleasure. is it p.mible. can it
fairly be argued, that a man of educa-
tion, • man of training. laboring under
soul) deluaie s, inch mental hallucina-
tions, could be held raspnnsible for any
thing he did to carry cut what he fie-
leaved
w
leaved to be hie manifest destiny 1 But autocret in religion and politics, and he
Loads Riel's delsetuna were not limited
changed his ..ptnson as he wished.'
W things material. He was, if possible, tine further extrsot from Father Aw-
wioe+ irrational en religious goeetiome. t ndhsr
g
guently, and his state of rapid was the
cause of great anxiety. In conversation
on politics, and on the ,ebellion and on
religion, he stated things which fright-
ened the priests. I am obliged to visit
every month the Fathers (priests) of the
district. Oso• alt the priests met to-
gether and they put the question, is it
possible to allow that roan to continue
in ilia religious duties, and they unani-
mously decided that on this question he
was sot responsible, on those gawti'ma ;
that he could not suffer any contradic-
tion on questions of religion end poli-
ties ; w. considered that he wee com-
pletely • foul in discussing these ques-
tions ; it was like showing a red leg te
a boll, to use a vulgar expression • e •
"Q. When he spoke of religion, the
principal thing of which he spoke, was
it not the supremacy of Pope iwo the
13th 1-A. Before the rebellion he never
spoke directly un that question as to the
wprema`) of the Pope.
•oQ On that question he wM p.rfest-
Ir ersop.nable $-A. On religious quaa-
tans before that time he blamed every-
thing, he wanted to Bhang. Masa, and
the liturgy, the cormsooies and the sym-
bols.
'•Q. Ta it not true that the prisoner
has Need principles in his next religion
A. He had the principles that he was an
He imagined himself inspired. He wM n • r '
to be the bed of • sew choreb sad the '•Q. When he spoke 1a you of religt••w
rwler 01 • sew •espir. (►n this sehjeet do you rwrnemher .bet he said to yon 1
George Nese, one of the Crows witnesses, A- 1 know be was talking to me shoat
mays . he the Pope or something of that
"Q. Tell mahout their tali ingyon tolhe
church 1 A. When we grit to the ehereb
Mr. Kiel 1 sating that be was
• prophet. that be could forme somata "
(1.o Ness further save Did M ss an thing t. you aMsl " heft mAasittea to yes, ger, use ea.sa es
, •Q what above the word, Pre tedaal. "Q• y y ywfootstrace. of insanity 1-A Test is all "Q L st ret .rhe chess are diflsrwt
you tse.d in aidyeathat
oto the
in thio of the Hely fl said or the Spirit d , not
f- civ tttas'm sole dela•.is mem
other swan i.h 'Timm."' my •• °sten• will allow mm i. seq."
forms
of f--' y w►ir1 ars not
diac.v.
A H. mid lAal .rm the 17th of A. Yes. he said in my poreaarriw, not 10 pent t the
N delsswm, and t►�lrcoeed al fsaaeity. To
Th. Boder 1.rther wya, epMktmg ef arable*segtef« semi/eeehleswimver
Marvel es..xmetly, that the ,pat of Elias wee lay ., y esti 1 has been Ws M dimawver them 1 A.
' lJ The ditie.lty with Packer Most- with him had raid : 1 vim the H.1 Apt they do not hang lunatics: het the tis- ese_Yeanais : Yes it la W that n.
1 A. Ye., aid i. Febdma fa " read emp•• dies phone.. elehetntt beyond Mehl • 'm • "milieu k' l ale a% sayweeblewe y 1
iso .se in Maawh ri ettriheta. that are generally atter he lad kWei fR �OYo defy net M swan.( his' ir.asN wtl)
.d into seven ayp w
inspired of the A Mighty ; the mantle j have somethini more than a l.enadan
of Elias had fallen upon his sl oulders : nputatio°. Both had opportunities to
he was to conquer England and Canada :
he was to be the supreme ruler over a1L
If anything, the delusions under which
Louis Rid labored were more absurd
and ridiculous than the delusions under
whish Edward Oxford labored. The one
was tried for high treason and acquitted
on the ground of insanity ; to other
was tried end convicted of high treason
cad was hanged by this Government
Every student of medical junsprodewas
or who bas mos the law r.porteihsoes
of the eons of Daniel McNsughton, who
was tried, in 1143, bef'.re Chief Justice
Tindall and Judges William and Cole-
ridge, for the murder of William Drum-
mond. The delusions of McN•ughtnn
bear the most remarkable resseiblance
to`those under which Riel labored. Mc-
Naughton was a raft of education, d
poem training, end of remarkable intel-
tigeece upon every question, except
esa His Wigwam • Pro -
JAS. A. REID & BRO.
loderieb, flth Merck. iter
but in obedience to an unman and irre-
sistible power belrtr.d the throne. Now,
I shall dtaeum for a moment • r two the ,
evidence of the duct.rs, because hon. t
gentlemen opposite say their testimony
establishes, beyond doubt, that Iael was,
nut insane. 1 do not propose to analyse
the testimony of 1h. Roy or Lr. Clark,
called for the defence, further then w
say that both these men are noted ex-
perts on insanity, on which sulject both
"Partial insanity has been much dis-
puted, but in really is a well smirked
variety, although often didieult to meow
nisei In this the subjects of it are of-
ten sane epos all iota bat one. Reli-
gious mania may be e•nsid.r.d • mono-
mania. Hoch patients ars seldom vm-
lest ealw they most with opposition.''
Lid me now give you a few instances in
the history of medical juriapru demos,
taken from the law reports. of men
laboring under limited delusions, who
have been declared not r.Pc sible for
Woodman
the crimes they committed
end Tidy refer to the case of a scientist
who desired, for his owe satisfaction to
investigate the different forms of imean-
Ity, and with that object visited ea in-
sane asylum. He knocked at a doer,
sad the door was opened by • neetivism
wale be espp•aad was .me of the keepers.
The ♦fade went arosad the institution
by this guide,
to owe patient after soother, described
their different delusive., sad gave their
histories in the clearest and most intlli-
gist manner. At lest they arrived et a
acnes whu was satiates is a thoughtful sad
rind mood in a messes, sod the stranger
mid to his 'nide • "Under what forms of
changing
wolf ma does that man labor r' "Ob,"
kind, wanting to name Bishop Bourret, mid the guide, "that man is laboring
oftMontreal, Pops of the New World as under many forms of madness. Why.
he newel it ; he spoke to me several that man imagines that M is the Ho�
things about religion that 1 cannot re-
member
lipsrit, sad, wesld yoe believe it, 1, w
we steadies before you, sal the Hely
Spirit is truth and reality. Ther was
dared at the trial indicated great bust-
it
pendens* and intelligence and a Mr. Pitapetniek, gave the f01 .wieg sea "Q- Have yes ds,M.1 + atb°tion
thoroughly well balanced mlttd. But dead :- to insanity at all sp.etally, et sot 1 A.
he hawed under one delusion. He "Cross-examined by Mr. Fitzpatrick. N•v.r apoei•lly; there &M MISS of course
imagined that to Tones of hu own "Yoe haws no droaht whatever i° rot' which oeeasiosally will coeds under the
oomn ted him and wronged mind from the examination you have notice of every immoral practitioner, but
him nit lm•tfta.d, tut no odds where made of this man during half an hour, ea • special nody I have serer drew tip.
he went, they followed him ; he treed- and from the evidence which you heard "Q. Every medical practitioner, �I
"Q. The d l siona are that be i. riel+4'
-A. Tea
"Q. And powerful t - A. Yes.
"Q. A great general 1 -A. Ye..
"Q. A Great minister I --A. He nosy
be a great anything and everything.
"Q. A great prophet + A Yes.
"Q. Or divinely inspired, or that he
is a poet or a musician• in fact, that he
is an .got1•t and selfish man 1-A.
Tea."
examine Keel; one had him under charge
for nineteen mouths as a lunatic, and
thus bad opportunity to diagnose his tam
and speak with absolute confidence as to
his sanity or insanity. Both weredecid•
edly of opinion that Riel labored under
delusions, and was not a responsible
agent in matters of religion and politics.
The Crown called Dr. Wallace, of Ham•
Ilton, to robot the evidence of the experts
1 have mentioned. Dr. Wallace declared
that he examined Rid for one-half hour,
and i recommend the evidence of Lr.
Wallace to the atteruon of those bon.
eentl•seen who propose to egotism to
foverne set on the motion ander dimes -
sift Referring to the evidence called
for by the Government themselves, I my
no intelligent men whose naiad s un -
blamed ma rise from its permed wtthost
being tborosgbly 'impressed with the fast
that, as regards relinon and polities.
Loris Rid was as mad as • Ma hares
Dr. Wallace nn being 1 by
Here is an expert, or a man who pro-
fesses to be an esp__rt, who tells us -
what 1 That he examined the primmer for
half an hour, that his examination was •
very limited one, that in ohmage ens
at takes • very long time to discover
insanity, that it would be presumption
in hem to say that Riad was not intone,
that his conscience would not allow him
to say wb•th.r he was insane or rtut,that
in his own experience it takes weeks to
dissever symptoms of insanity --• thing
this doctor onderin..k t.. do in half an
hour -bat that R1.1 had all the symp-
toms of the disease known as mmglo-
mante. Yet, in the fax ..f the bold and
emphatic declar.tiun of the two other
medical men, a human rife has to be sa-
crificed. The oily other medical tan
sailed by the Crown was Dr Jukes, an
:Yam
of the government, who bas
h•d the candor to tell ss he kaolin noth-
ing sheet inespity, end is therefore not
am expert He is asked the following
gaestms•, and gives the tat; so -
.wen :
led abroad to .soaps them, but they
dogged him , and be return-
ed t. Eitgisad. went to a shop, deliber-
ately peeeheMd a pistol, and, waiting
hja 1 , he bred at and killed
�. Thmi' iosd, believing Mr. Drift-
wood to be Sir Robert Ped, the thea
chief of the Tortes in England. H. was
arrested, tried and acquitted es, the
ground of iwesnity. The 1.w in its
leni•n.y, spared him the penalty of his
grime. 1s sou a blessing for Aim and
hie friends he was not tried in Canada.
Then are many points of similarity is
this case and lhet of Louis Rid Rawl
sus a man of ed caut inn, 1 e
training, end great i h inset
Wags. Some of his
shows lbrt ; other .nee of his,
then ma r.ligioes aid mien tapirs, le -
diet., beyond doe Ilan be W se
ill -balanced mind ; be believed the wee -
tie a Elias heal f.11.m is him and that he
wee inspired by God. He violated the
law of the land, wee tried mad eoneissrd
avid, netwitMtanding his suunfwM.deh-
einea and the twos al the jury
M teevey, he w hanged. the mens I
here, that he et of perfectly sound mind i suppose, has hi•.ttmati.w mor. we
A. Wel, I shod qualify, that ia, 1 directed to it1-A. (bsssionally i have
should qualify my atawsr to that .pee•• boas galled upon to certify in naw of is-
ticm. 1 have had only a limited examin- sanity.
sties of him. and in any ase of obscure "Q. And yoe have never 'pekes" to
mental dimes it pomett,ee takes s very him on tls partiewlar alibied* with refer -
leer time before .me ram maim sP their 'nee to which he is supposed to have kis
mind, but from what i have seen of him delusicies 1 A. Name the ssbj•et.
1 say tat I have discovered no symptoms " Q t h nligi•., asd on hen minks
of iessaity. ' with referee°• to the Northwest terri-
Here is a donor, Balled by the Crowe to tortes 1-- A. 1 have spokes to him
',bet the testim.my prv,doeed by the om .ether.
primmer, and be says : "It would be "Q. You said, de.tor, that yen had
presumption en m part to my that Rest sot made any swiftest 1• ascertain, dor-
ies. sot intro.. 1 hay. had mon 1. my awe the iuter•e•urae wish you had with
sayha for .osibe before 1 mould dim Mr. Riot, whether or net he suffered
cower cause of iamanity"-and rye thin . from ear pertlmelr mescal dieser, 1 Did
nitwits i. *awned lo oonnnes as iw1.1• . you u.olw any form of inanity, er any
lig.at Home of Coesmnms that the eel- meatal disease. .t mind 1
deem waiee is based a eta exaesiaalios -A. I waver .pesi♦lly examined him ea
.f the ptimneer, leftism during the long a Inmates, i Never made a .«•said eiami-
perio4 of half an hoer, of a raw he never Nahum el him se • lmsatls.
•w or knew anything .J before, is wholly ' Q. Toe never made say apauisl ea -
cleaver to dissever whether et wet he was
"Q. Th•refe'. yon sr, ',Agog 1. my s •ring frees any p.rtbshi' form of
that all chef nom hen discovered in this mental dirraw t -L N.ver •.y apwmt.l
ems, •r all that you an now u s pos.tbn endeavor, mething boywd oedhrary
M mg, is that you have we dlaseeseed eenv.rsatims .l the day.
"Q. Ilia he my M bed any 04 eke ti- ream. y.ns te y ; s a t cow taw to patient
pies the ether, •Deli it lewatw, visa •*rested by ibis humane yes dehm.ns, andiem del ry emaveswe whaled awn e.sttwamfl •end
nary a• be aslsed for s !ie�im
Q 1 n worth he Mid the pion ems . bated to Elias t A - That s .tet 1 t Risk tt.am that grim trs�M Government, cad in .Miivsas to /b law, sines d greatness." " -y s yes
t• that eldest 1- he tweet by that. mum who east not to vi.disr/e the trrjssty .1 lh. favi, heti mama, he ssy.: teeth ve.id.wts►14y` Of w° other pewees
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