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HomeMy WebLinkAboutThe Exeter Times-Advocate, 1977-12-01, Page 19A report on fire protection in Teickersmith township was to be kept confidential despite a public meeting called by council Monday night to discuss the subject. JIM SIDDALL & SON LICENSED & INSURED TRUCKER • LIVESTOCK • GRAIN • FERTILIZER it FARM SUPPLIES KIRKTON 229.6439 PORTABLE TOILET SERVICE Portable Toilets are available 7 days a week with Maintenance and Delivery included. R.R. 1, GRAND BEND HURON SANITATION CAN OFFER YOU COMPLETE 24 HR. SANITATION SERVICE PHONE ED LOVIE PHONE JOHN HOTSON AT 238-2776 AT 238-210 If no answer call 238-8240 for prompt reply. 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HUGH MORENZ Mr. & Mrs. Ken Baker, Mr. & Mrs. Howard Hendrick and Mr. & Mrs. Walter Weber, were among some from this area who travelled by charter bus, Thursday evening to Kitchener, to view the taping of the Walter Ostanek show, which will be seen December 5. Mr. & Mrs. Jim Dietrich and Mr. & Mrs. Jim Sweitzer, spent the weekend in Wheeling, West Virginia, where they attended a Area man sees game By MANUEL CURTS GREENIWAY Ken Eagleson was among a group from the surrounding area who attended the Grey Cup - football game in Montreal, Sunday. Mrs. Wayne King and children, Crediton,. were house guests with Mrs. Eagleson, Jamie and Andrew. Keith Walper is holidaying for two weeks in Hawaii. Viola Curts, London, and Mr. & Mrs. Ken Smithers attended a birthday anniversary dinner for Ken at the home of Evelyn and Manuel Curts, Sunday. Mr, & Mrs. Lyle Steeper en- tertained the staff of Steeper Constructiori at their home, Saturday evening, the occasion being their annual Christmas dinner, By the way: Christmas: A widely observed holiday on which the past nor the future is so mud' interest as the present. Christ- mas comes but once a year's enough. Gabian Stone Calcium Chloride in 100 pound bags Sand & Stone Gravel Stone for Weeping Beds EARL LIPPERT TRUCKING LTD. Creditoa 234.6382 country and western music show which featured Donna Fargo. Jeff and Amy Sweitzer spent the weekend with their grand- mother, Mrs. Doris Sweitzer and accompanied her to Welland to the home of Mr. & Mrs. Edward Leadley. They all attended a family shower for Mrs. Sweit- zer's nephew, Harold Anger, and his fiancee Bonnie, Shantry. Mr. & Mrs. Maurice Desjar- dine, Huron Park, visited Sunday with Mrs. Mabel Desjardine, Mrs. Trellis Little and Earl Stebbins. The dance which was to have been held last Saturday night at Parkhill Community Centre in aid of Shipka Community Centre had to be cancelled .due to the stormy weather conditions. It is re-scheduled for December 16, Mr. & Mrs. Gus Van Massenhoven, Anita, Ronnie and Michael, visited Sunday evening in Parkhill with the children's grandparents, Mr. & Mrs. Albert Van Massenhoven. Honor leader at Brinsley By GORDON MORLEY BRINSLEY Thursday night at choir practice, Brinsley United Church choir group had a party in honour of their leader Mrs. Jack Trevithick's wedding an- niversary, Plans are being made for a Sunday School concert. Kathy and Cindy Prest visited Mrs. Gayle Giammarco Sunday evening, Mr. and Mrs. Jack Trevithick were Sunday evening dinner- guests with Mr. and Mrs. Harvey Walper and family, GreenWay, Mr. and Mrs. Barry Mcconnell of London; and Mr. and Mrs. Howard Hodgson and Murray attended his graduation Saturday evening at Strathroy District Collegiate Institute. Sympathy is extended to Mr. and Mrs, Gerald O'Leary in the passing of his mother Mrs. O'Leary whose burial was held Wednesday, Cindy Pirest spent Saturday eight with a friend in Watford. Jack and Carol Tweddle were on a bus trip to Wheeling, West Virginia last week-end, Ladies Guild of St. Mary's flureli had a very good at- teedarice at their Christreas bazaar, A large stuffed doll made by Mona Hodgitis was won by Mrs, Marilyn Lee. Rev. and Mrs. G. W, Decker, Guelph visited Sunday with Mr. and Mrs. -Charles Corbett, PRECIOUS BLOOD STUDENT COUNCIL — The student council for Precious Blood Separate School for the 1977-78 school year was elected recently. Back, left, Frank Verbeke, secretary Corinne Weernink, president Sean Wraight, treasurer Travis Craine and vice-president Larry Bertens. Front, David Kints, Cathy Hogan, Janet Kints, Brian Kints and Jeff Mittelholtz. T-A photo Dance rescheduled Shipka people at TV taping FOR CHRISTMAS GIFTING ? 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To all my friends and relatives I wish you the joys of the Christmas season and a very prosperous new year, Tom Smyth it*neeaeenWaNianiavei.i64446eilente,eire *.kiel$4* " Wat,etistrtii4034,14letWuNio lNitiVitalltleVNielMieOlit**itOlWili$4,4/44104itUis6Prlar0144440,41.114tinlgskIknifolintliht+Otin4Ila, *ilsk I 7 77 h um :ova excessive: Tonfidenitiarfire report aired at Tuckersmith session. Timoo,Advectote, Pitcerriber 1, 19'X7 Ptige 19 It was not until the end of the Meeting after fire protection needs at Vanastra had been aired again — the only area in the township where the residents had expressed dissatisfaction with it — that one of the councillors spoke up. Councillor Frank Falconer said "For your benefit I would say the report was df no use to us," He said it called "for scrapping everything we've got and setting up a new fire department here in the township. We can't afford that. The report of the survey was completed in the spring and presented to council at a com- mittee-of-the-hole in camera meeting in the summer, The report was made by Donald R, Owens a fire seritices advisor with the Ontario Marshal'e office who was at the meeting Monday and said it was up to council whether or not to make it public. Mr, Falconer did not name the sites for the new fireballs in the township as proposed in the report, but the press has learned the locations were Egmondville, Kippert and,VanaStra. The issue of inadequate fire protection at Vanastra has been a problem for at least 18 months, Ben Bridges, businessman and vice-president of Vanastra Community Association told the 39 persons at the meeting, He said more protection was required for life and safety and to lower the insurance rates. "We are not happy," he said. Mr. Bridges said a survey has been "trade by the community association and found 03 men willing to serve on a volunteer fire department. Owens, however, said the problem is not solved that easily. He said starting a fire depart- ment takes weeks of training — at least 22 weeks of one night instruction each week, and until they pass standards set by the fire marshal's office, he would not recommend even buying equipment until that time. Then, he said, it can take up to two years on a waiting list before a truck is delivered. Bridges said the best fire training was working at an actual fire and that there were lots of second hand firetrucks around to buy Owens told him the reason there were lots of old truplce around was that once a truck reaches 15 years, it does not meet the standards of the fire near- chap's office and because a municipality does not want to make costly repairs to an old truck. He estimated that to totally equip a fire department, it would cost $150,000 plus annual operations costs perhaps in ex- cess of $25,000 with com- munication systems, workman's compensation. He said manning the depart- ment wss a big problem. With volunteers it takes four men to have one available at all times.He said they start off en- thusiastically, but as time goes by the men lose interest and it is difficult to have enough men around to answer calls, especially on weekends, Vanastra business owner, Steve Rathwell of Central Machining (General repairs and welding) said that according to one insurance company, the community is an unprotected area. "Why is the insurance com- pany so hard on us?" Owens suggested Vanastra residents should shop around for other insurance companies with different attitudes He said it can take longer for a fire truck to reach the scene in heavy city traffic than on country roadseHe said no one in Tockersmith is farther from a fireball than six miles. Vanastra islese than three miles from Clinton andabout five miles from tirueefield. Mr. Owens recounted on one occasion he and an official from art insurance firm in London had waited around most of a day at Vanastra to discuss problems with a Vanastra owner with an industry, but that he went away that day when they were to meet, not even his secretary knew where he was. Rathwell said to develop Vanastra as an industrial park there must be some enticement to get them in, He said the present insurance rates prevented that. He asked council what it would do. Reeve Ervin Sillery said all parts of the township should be treated the same and we don't want to look at one place more than another. He told the Vanastra residents if they wanted improvement, to prepare a plan and submit it to council in writing and it would be con- sidered. Mr. & Mrs. Earl Baker, St. Thomas, visited Friday with Mr. & Mrs. Ken Baker. Weekend visitors with the Bakers were Mr. & Mrs. Tony Regier, Christopher and Heather, Detroit, The Shipka store closing hours have changed from 9 p.m. to 8 p.m. It's up to you people to get involved. Ben Bridges spoke of his frustrations in getting fire protection services at Vanastra. One of the problems discussed was insurance for the men. It was recounted that at one fire at Vanastra no one from VanaStra would do anything before the firemen arrived even though fire chief Stewart Broadfoot had asked for help. Owens and Broadfoot both said that as soon as Broadfoot asked men to work on a fire they are immediately under the Work- man's compensation. Councillor Falconer said "They have to get organized here, When people here couldn't get out of bed to help with a fire. You have. to work to be a firefighter. If they get the ball rolling, I am willing to support them if council is able to do it financially." Deputy reeve Robert Bell said he was very disappointed only to see three at the meeting representing industry (Steve Rathwell, Central Machining, L. Pesch Woodworking and Ben Bridges, flea market owner), "I feel they should be here to voice their opinions." Bridges said, "certain, larger industrialists in the area felt we were sticking our noses into their business." Mr. Owens said an industrial first aid fire brigade could be helpful and Bridges said that is what he has always wanted- one for the industrial area and it could be used if needed in the residential area as well. He said an industrial fire committee was formed but only three meetings were held andno more called. He said one of the industries, a boat works was talking about an expensive sprinkler system, "I think the answer is a first aid industrial fire department," Owens said, "We know the problems. I see a complete lack of communications, It is the problem of Vanastra. Lay your problems out in writing—the manpower available, the hours, everything. I will give you all the information I can, The ball has been bounced into your court, It is up to you, I am available but I do get frustrated when no one is available when I travel up here to discuss a problem," Richard Lenehan, Vanastra resident, said he found it difficult to believe that the survey report should not be made public. He said his question is "Do we really need a fire department. Is there anyway we could make a con- tribution to upgrade the ones we have in the area?" Robin Gates, president of the Community Association, said, "I don't believe we have a problem." He referred to the recent report Clerk Jack McLachlan said he had sent in to the Public Fire Protection .Survey Services and Insurance advisory organization, which if it comes back from Toronto that our standards are O.K., then'we have no problem, just the In- surance companies. Councillor Robert Drummond cited an example that by shop- ping around you do get better premitim rates. As the meeting ,concluded Owens and Reeve Sillery both said it was up to the Vanastra ratepayers to present their proposal to council for etudy. "We hope to, hear from whoever carries the bail," concluded the reeve,