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dvocate, November 1.2, '959 Brothers debate CTA, -LCA
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right to express an opinion in
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gress of the nation and ,that .it
must ba exercised freely to pre-
serve and improve democratic
government.
Retain control
A number of municipalities In this area have
upported, a resolution from► the Township of Crow -
land requesting the provincial government to take
over responsibility for the complete cost of admini-
stration and relief.
Under present legislation, the municipality
administers these matters and pays the cost. The
provincial gov't refunds 80 percent of all approved
expenditures.
In one sense, the municipalities can't be
blamed for attempting to ease their financial load
by urging the province to assume this responsibility.
However, we're inclined to agree.with, and to com-
mend, Exeter council for opposing the resolution,
When the suggestion was presented to coun-
cil, Mayor Pooley, Reeve McKenzie and Deputy -
Reeve Mawhinney led in opposition to it. Their argu-
ment was that both welfare and relief can be much
better administrated by local officials.
In the first place, it is only logical that local
officials can assess requests for financial assistance
much more adequately than can provincial personnel.
The local official, in all probability, knows personal-
ly
ersonal
ly the applicant or his family and their apparent
circumstances. If he does not, it is much easier for
him to find qut from other local officials, friends or
neighbors.
Secondly, because the administration is local
and the prevision of funds can affect the local tax
levy for which the municipal officials are directly
responsible, there is much more scrutiny and hesita-
tion in granting the funds than there would be if the
administrator was relatively uninterested and not
responsible for taxes.
The cost of the program itself would soar, if
the administration was provincial, by the hiring of
more civil servants and the provision of transporta-
tion. Basically involved, of course, is that old argu-
ment that the farther you remove any program from
the hands of local gov't, the greater will be its cost.
It should be pointed out, at this point, that Reeve
McKenzie has been most diligent in his supervision
of welfare and relief in Exeter and that, in addition
to approving help where it has been needed, he has
also saved the town considerable expense by his
honesty in discrediting claims which have not been
legitimate. We imagine the same commendation
should apply to officials in other district councils.
At stake in the general consideration is the
argument of the municipalities that they are losing
control over the areas which legally come under their
jurisdiction. If the municipalities continue to demand
more services from higher governments, does it not
follow that they will continue to forfeit that control?
Flood market?
In view of the contention of one farm group
that the deficiency payment for hogs should be based
on the cost of production, the following quotation
from the Winnipeg Tribute should be considered:
"Even with limitation of 100 hogs • per pro-
ducer, production is capable of tremendous expan-
sion if the incentive is great enough. For example,
prairie farms alone would produce 20 million hogs
if each of them had 100 ready for market. This
compares with a total production, for all Canada, in
recent years, of about five million hogs a year. And
more than half of this production normally comes
from Eastern Canada."
The newspaper continues:
"It is impossible to tell, until the plan is
actually in operation, whether the base price set for
the deficiency payment plan will be an inducement
to expand production.
"But the abundance of damp grain on the
prairies which is expected to result from recent un-
seasonable snows will be an extra factor making hog
raising attractive."
This makes it clear that farmers cannot
expect an attractive price as the base for the de-
ficiency payment plan. Obviously the market Could
be flooded beyond repair.
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DON
Huron
makes
a
choice
ROBERT — CTA.
One f four articles 's which brathe Robertad D n southcott
n o. o ai is es .i t w uc rs
argue 'the issues in the Nova 3Q referendum in Huron and Perth.
2. Enforcement
By DON SOUTHCOTT
In the announcement .of this
series, I admitted to the per-
sonal use of alcoholic beverages.
In other words, on occasion, 1
drink beer and whisky.
I make this admission not be-
cause I'm proud of it but because,
if I didn't own up to it, some of
our readers would suggest that
the real reason I want the LCA
is not because of its .controls nut
because I want to drink. If you
already have this idea, read the
next paragraph carefully,
If I were to make my .decision
on the basis of pure self-interest
in drinking, 1 would join MY
brother and vote for the CTA.
Why wouldn't 1? Under, the
CTA I can drink wherever 1
wish — in my car, inthe park,
on the beach, in the dance hall
-- without fear of arrest, prose- •
cution or confiscation of my bev-
erage. I don't have to worry
about the police searching my
car or my clothing for liquor. I
can continue to guzzle after I
am drunk. I can do many other
things with liquor under the
CTA, without fear of prosecu-
tion, that I• could not do if Hu-
ron were under the LCA.
So, mark you well, can the
minor, And he knows it.
The principal reason I support
the Liquor Control Act is that it
provides control, as its name
indicates. And, believe me, that
control is extensive. As one
lawyer told me, it's "chuck full
of •teetih."
Because the pro -CTA g roup
has been admirably honest in
admitting the superiority of the
LCA in this respect. I don't
wish to dwell on it at length. A
summary should suffice, parti-
cularly for those people yeho
read the excerpts from the acts
in last week's. paper.
Only one main offence
• The • ONLY pertinent penalty
provided by the CTA is against
selling, or distribution of, alco-
holic beverages. Remember
that: essentially, for us, the
ONLY penalty provided is •against
bootleggers.
Not only does the CTA ignore
all other problems but it also
fails to provide severe punish-
ment for that one offence—boot-
legging.
A report in the Nov. •5 edition
of the London Free Press quotes
the magistrate and crown at-
torney in a Listowel court de-
ploring the fact that the maxi-
mum penalty for bootleggers
under CTA is $100 or 30 days in
jail.. They both felt the penalty
was much too small for a first
offence bootlegger who, evidence
showed, had handled over 2,400
cases of beer costing over $10,-
000 in only two months. •
Under LCA, a mandatory jail
sentenceis provided for bootleg-
ging on first offence. The maxi-
mum is six months.
Six months in jail compared
to $100 cash! During the time
he could have been in jail under
the LCA, this man might have
sold over 7,000 cases of beer
after he had paid the pittance of
$100 under the CTA.
Surely this example decisively
discredits the suggestion made
by the Rev. S. E. Lewis recently
that the CTA concentrates on the
seller while the LCA bears down
onthe consumer.
Severe penalties
The LCA sets out clearly
severe penalties for consumption
by minors ($10 to, $500 or two
months in jail or both), selling
to, and serving minors (saine
as above), drunkenness ($10 to
$50), drinking in a place other
than your residence ($10 to
$500), serving a drunkard ($10
to $500), ete., etc.
I want to deal with the section
of minors specifically. The pro -
CTA people may point out that
it provides penalties only for
those who "knowingly" sell to
minors or who serve to persons
"apparently" under the age of
21. They may say this is a weak-
ness, But look, the minor risks
a fine of from. $10 to $500 if he
"applies for, attempts to 'pur-
chase, purchases or Otherwise
obtains liquor," Is that not a
strong deterrent, placing the re.
sponsibility, exactly where it be.
longs?
Other vital considerations
In addition, the LCA provides
these important aids for enforce.
znent and prosecution which the
CTA does not:
Police authority to search,
without warrant, car's, boats,
cOnveyances of any kind, er the
person .himself, and to seize and
remove any kind of liquor;
Police authority to arrest with,
out warr•ant, any person violat,
ing the act;
Authority for the magistrate
to convict on circumstantial evi-
dente;
in some cases, it even placed
the responsibility on , ilio person
charged to prove his innocence.
I hope• I have convinced An
the controls are there. New let
ale discuss anothee Aegunietit of
my opponents. They say the
LCA's "teeth de not prove lit
practice to be as sharp ,as they
look in ptint." They cite, a5 evi-
dence, citamples of offender
Which odour itt LCA areas.
My answer is twofold:
First, if bite offences continue
without proseeulion, this is NOT
the fault of the Act. The falltrrdi
Please turn to page a
By ROBERT SOYTHCOTT
'Ms week Don and I discuss
enforcement of the law and my
column will deal with this sub•
ject as we now have it under
the CTA as compared with that
under the LCA. And I am wri-
ting about the CTA as it now
is, leaving aside any question
of it being amended.
Quite frankly my personal
feeling is that the disposition of
the magistrates and crown at-
torneys is a large factor no mat.
ter which act it' inay be. This is
quite natural. Their attitude to-
ward the purpose of their fund
tion can be as different as other
human beings. Their inclinations
may be lenient or quite the ap-
posite,
In Huron we are most forth -
nate in that we have a magis-
trate and a crown attorney who
have won a reputation for the
effectiveness of carrying out
their office. This opinion , is
shared by• the temperance for-
ces themselves which are, of
course, more concerned than
moat of us that the law should
be enforcedin the area • we are
discussing.
"Let's throw out the CTA and
get some modern legislation" is
a ery we are hearing and hear-
ing quite often bhese days. Do
we really know What we get
when we do? The LCA may make
it very clear and point by point
outline legislation that sounds
effective. But, the point to con.
Sider is whether it has proven
to be as effective as one would
think it should be, Perhaps we
alight look at two or three as-
pects that seem to be pointed up
as monstrosities in our county.
'The bootlegger
Here is what Magistrate Hol-
mes said in court early last
month. "The County of Huron
and Perth have bootleggers but
from what I have listened to in
other courts not under the CTA
beverage rooms, and one could
they have just as many as we
have. I don't think the act makes
a great deal of difference as far
as the bootlegger is concerned."
This statement is not only
backedup but made to look
rather conservative from the
standpoint of other areas by the
concern of the Hotel and Restau-
rant magazine which quotes a
past president of the Ontario
Hotelmen's Association as say-
ing
aying the bootlegging activities
are undermining the legitimate
beverage business.
But why, you ask, should boot-
leggers be so prevalent when
there are legal outlets under, the
LCA? There are several reasons
but one of the most sinister is
that the appetite of many people
is not satisfied within the hours
of legal sale, In other words
they are just getting under way
at closing time.
Then there is the matter of
enforcement. We hear people —
people who are concerned but
perhaps not well informed —
say that our. court is not able to
prosecute bootleggers.
If you attended the open meet-
ing of the South Huron Ministe-
rial Association you would have
heard Mr. Smalley tell of the
case under the LCA where po-
licemen after laying in wait un-
der extreme circumstances had
come to court with what they
felt was ample evidence only to
have their case thrown out.
"Why catch pneumonia to be
embarrased tike that" was their
reaction.
Now let's look at the report in
the Goderich Signal -Star as re'
cently as October 22, It con-
cerns activities in an Ashfield
farmhouse where Provincial Po-
lice after observing traffic at
the farm dropped in and inter-
rupted a seven -person beer -
drinking party. Other than seiz-
ing about five bottles of beer, a
couple of quarts of whiskey and
a part quart under a mattress,
cartons or other bottles of beer
were not found. But said Megis.
trate Holmes, "These people
were there, were drinking and
it was his beer. The whole evi-
dence is so consistent with a
bran selling liquor and .keeping
liquor for sale, despite the fact
no other liquor was found, that
in the face of no denial or con-
tradictory evidence I must come
jottings by .IM
Cicndeboye !ouncer
became firs
I have been reading up GeV the
history of Clandeboye at a time
when that village was .called
Flannigan Corners.
The first settler . in that dis-
trict was Captain J, W, Evans
who arrived in 1825 and settled
on a farm later occupied by
members of the Flannigan fem.
sly and afterwards by Moore
Cunningham.
In 1844 the London Road, now
„Highway No. 4, was hewed out
of the forest and in that year
settlers began to arrive, among
them Patrick Flannigan and his
family. He took up a homestead,
built -a store and hotel and the
the place called Flannigan's
Corners began to grow.
It was in MaY, 1830, that Mr.
Flannigan left Ireland. Arriving
in Montreal he worked first on
the now abandoned Rideau Canal.
At York, now Toronto, he worked
on the lakefront and afterwards
moved to Waterdown in the
County of Wentworth where he
built the first hotel and distil.
lery, This property he converted
into a factory for snaking agri-
cultural implements, •
During the troubled times of
the rebellion in 1837 he raised
a company of recruits for Cap-
tain Field, For four years he
worked on the Wabash and Erie
Railroad and for two years he
farmed in Elgin County and in
1844 he moved to what is now
Clandeboye and founded a set-
tlement. When the Township of
McGillivray was formed under
the municipal act, Mr. . Flan-
nigan was elected the first
reeve of the township, a posi-
tion he held for several years.
He was at the same time cap-
tain of tee militia and was also
made coroner.
In 1851 he was made clerk of
the division court. He died in
1864 in his 64th year. At the
funeral the procession was two
miles long. He left a widow,
50 YEARS AGO
Mr. Sidney Davis has engag-
ed with Mr. Frank Wood in the
butchering business; Mr. Ren-
dle having resigned to prepare
to 'leave for the West Coast to
reside.
The curlers re -organized for
the season on Friday night
when ,H. E. Huston was elected
president; Ed Jones, vice-presi-
dent and G. E. Anderson, secre-
tary -treasurer.
Mr. David Gibb of the bound-
ary line, Tuckersmith, has re-
ceived the contract for the con -
to the conclusion he is guilty."
One could hardly say that this
would indicate that enforcing
the law was nearly as difficult
as some people try to paint it.
In fact this recent case suggests
quite the contrary,
"On the basis of figures from
both Ontario and British Colum-
bia the idea that more liquor
outlets will diminish the acti-
vity of bootleggers is a com-
pldte fallacy. They have achieved
.the very opposite result," This
was reported in a brief pre-
sented to the government of the
Province of Saskatchewan.
Our youth
Under the CTA there appears
to be two ways in which minors
might get beverage alcohol.
First illegally from legal out-
lets and. secondly from parents
or friends. Does not the same
thing apply under the LCA?
Then there is the matter of
enforcement. In talking to one
policeman who was concerned
about the problem he suggested
that our youth could have a
bottle in front of him and he
was powerless to do anything.
His concern was legitimate. But
I wonder what would happen if
he did have authority? First it
is conceivable that the most lie
would do was drive this type—
and let's not judge our young
nien and womenby these few—
off the front street to the back.
While it rnight appear to be bet-
ter it does not answer the prob.
lem. Then suppose he makes an
arrest. Is taking him to court
going to be the answer?
May I suggest it iso t. The
answer is much more deeply
rooted than law enforcement.
You and 1 can't expect a boy or
girl growing up in our • homes
to be very much different than
we are. We can't expect that
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s73eilt tools! r Y , tlteyct built the btl.seitlent Pinder'
the house it wouldn't have filled with ivaterwt'
t reeve
four sons and three .daughters.
His eldest son, John, succeeded
him as elerk of the division court
and later held several positions
From the first the village of
Flannigan's Corners prospered
end in 1850 the population in-
creased to about 300. In thnt
year St. James Anglican church
was built and the name was
changed to Ireland.
At one time it had four hotels
that cared for travellers who
went through on the London and
Goderich road. Mr. Patrick kept
the one on the corner. The others
were kept by Mr. James Nigh,
Mr. Jackson and Mr. Glenden-
ning.
Three stores supplied the many
wants of the people. These were
operated by Patrick Flannigan,
Mr. Gailbraith and Mr. Henry
Jackson. The latter passed away
in 1930.
The year 1850 saw the arrival
of two cabinet-makers, William
Howard and Francis Jones. The
village post office was kept by
Daniel Shoff. There were three
blacksmith shops operated by
Ambrose Mann, James Hodgins
and James Maguire.
Patrick Butter a n d Mike
Markey were the shoemakers
who made shoes from the high
top boots to the little copper
shiny shoes. (By the way, there
is a pair of these tiny copper -
toed boots proudly displayed on
a mantle -piece in a cottage at
Grand Bend, They came from a
store in Exeter.)
In the spring of 1858 the main
line of the Grand Trunk Railway
passed through the locality from.
Stratford to Sarnia. This was an
international route from Chicago
to the Atlantic, It was not until
1875 that the London, Huron and
Bruce railway was opened mak-
ing connections with the Grand
Trunk at Lucan crossing. Both
lines are mere skeletons of what
they once were.
As the
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veyance of the mails between
Exeter and Mitchell. He takes
over from Mr, Campbell.
Miss Annie Consitt, Hensall,
who is teaching near Cfediton,
was home last week.
Rev. R. Hobbs of Exeter and
Rev. W. H. Graham of Chat-
ham delivered temperance ad-
dresses in Zurich Town Hall in
the interests of local option.
Mr. Br e n n e is new barn,
Grand Bend, is nearing comple-
tion and when finished will be
the best hotel barn in South
Huron,
25 YEARS AGO
Mr. John E. Dignan left on
Tuesday for Kingsville where
he will spend the winter with
his daughter.
The public school teachers of
Exeter were at Clinton on Fri-
day last visiting the school
there,
Messrs. Allen Johns, Howard
Johns, Lloyd Bell, Lorne Elford
and Horace Delbridge, also Mar-
jorie Delbridge, went to Chisel-
burst on Sunday' evening and
presented their Biblical drama,
"Barabbas".
Mr .and Mrs. Peter Martene
of Stephen township are fortun-
ate in having both their mothers
hale and hearty. Mrs. Martene's
mother, Mrs, .John. Becker, is
91 years of age and Mr. Mar.
tenet's mother, Mrs. Joseph
Martene is in her ninetieth year.
The Central Hotel which has
been closed down for several
weeks has been rented to Mr.
J. J. Cox, Brantford.
A reception was held on Wed-
nesday for Mr. and Mrs. Alvin
Cottle. They were presented
with an upholstered chair and
small table,
15 YEARS AGO
At police court in Exeter on
Friday there were 13 convic-
ytionsear, for failure to purchase
radio licences for the ensuing
F/0 Lewis Foist spent a few
days with his parents, Mr. and
Mrs. M. Foist, Crediton. He has
been posted to Dunnville.
Mrs. E. Kleinstiver, Dashwood,
attended the "Wings Parade" at
Camp Borden where her son,
Lorne, received his wings.
In an effort to raise money
for a new grandstand the Agri-
cultural Society are staging a
concert followed by a dance in
the Exeter arena.
All municipalities in Huron
County reached their objective
in the 7lb Victory Loan.
Mr. and Mrs. Ed Maier of
Dashwood have received official
word from Ottawa. that their son,
L/Cpl, Harold Maier, age 22,
was killed in action while serv-
ing in Italy, October 12.
10 YEARS AGO
The 13ttronia choir motored to
Hamilton Saturday and carried
Off second prize at the Hamilton
Musical Festival,
Mr. Barry Sherwood, Massey
Harris' dealer from Exeter, ad-
dressed the Elitnville WI on
agriculture in China.
June Steeper, daughter of
Mr, and Mrs. Jahn Steeper, ftft
8 Parkhill, won first prize for
girls for oratory from 11 sehoOls
in McGillivray township.
Messrs Warren Brock and
Robert lfei•it are in Teroiito
showing their cattle at the Royal
Winter .Fair.
Mr. 1 d Brady was on a hunt-
ing trip to Manitoulin islands
and brought Horne a fine buek.
The first 'regular meeting of
the newly Organized sponte and
School Assccietion Will be held
Friday evening,
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Thank You
I wish to express my appreciation to the
citizens of Exeter, including the young folk, for
their excellent conduct over Hallowe'en. Our
dep't did not receive one complaint and we are
not aware of any damage done during the eve-
ning. This fine record speaks for itself.
I would also like to thank Fire Chief
Irwin Ford and the three other members of his.
brigade for their assistance in patrolling the
town, '
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