Clinton News-Record, 1966-04-21, Page 10Page 10—Clinton News-Record—Thurs., April 21, 1966
Thursday’s Sitting of Area No. 1 Hearing Club Meets
MIDDLETON
1 Ten witnesses were called
during the five hour session by
J. K, Hunter, counsel for pert>
itioners who request a union
school section between part of
Tuckersmith and the Town of
Seaforth.
Frank Reynolds, a bus
driver for the separate school
system in Tuckersmith said a
one-bus system is being chang
ed to two buses. He said.they
would be willing to co-operate
with the public school board,
to save miles and costs. He
said with one bus it costs $950
a month' to .transport 80-90
children, or 80 cents per day
per pupil, With two buses' it
is expected to be more.
Lost Sale?
Hart, dealer of
and oil in Seaforth and a
estate salesrnan since last
stated that home piirchas-
do consider location of
of
William
coal
real
fall,
era
schools; He said he may have
lost one sale because . he ins
dicated. to a buyer that children
might’have to go to Brucefield
to. school.
Mr. Carter said he did hot
toll his potential customers
they could send their children
to Seaforth, nor that their
tuition there plus Tuckersmith
taxes would be no more than
school taxes' in Seaforth; When
it was suggested that he had
not tried very hard to sell the
house, Mr. Carter said that was
a matter of opinion.
, Safer Riding
Ralph Moore, resident
Harpurhey with no children in
Tuckersmith school did1 not fa
vour having his five year old 1
child riding, as far as Bruce- ;
field, when he could walk to
Seaforth school, but he admit- ;
ted that riding to Brucefield :
would likely be safer than :
walking, to the Seaforth school. :
Mr. Moore did not .think it i
would be necessary for the
child to walk indicating that he :
felt a bus system would be (
started, or he could take the j
boy to school each day him- *
self. x i
Moore cited police and fire j
protection, doctors and has-
pitals as (better in Seaforth and ;
that community 'activities were
more easily available to his ;
family in Seaforth than in :
Brucefield. • i
On cross-examination he said
he had no criticism of police
protection given Brucefield by ■
the OPP. He had not heard of :
any problems with children !
storm-stayed in the small sch- :
ools in Tuckerslmith, to which ■
they axe now taken for educa
tion.
Mr. Moore identified 18 sig
natures on the petition, and’
said that no one had talked
about the passible tax rate in
Seaforth if an addition were
built on the school there, nor
about whether children would
walk or ride by bus.
In Plowed Field
Mrs. Patricia Patrick,
lives five miles from Seaforth
and eight miles from Bruce
field, has one 11 year old son,
attending SS 10. She preferred
Seaforth school to one at
Brucefield, because it would be
be more convenient to her.
“I want my child in the com
munity, not out in the middle
of a plowed field,” she said, and
noted her concern that there
was no doctor ar hospital dose
by, and the boy’s music lesson
who
at 4 o’clock would be impos
sible, if he were at Brucefield.
Her’ son leaves home now at
7:55 a.m., and gets home at
4:40 p.m. He takes his lunch.
On .cioss-examhiation, Mrs.
Patrick agreed that if he could
leaye home at 8:10 and got
home by 4:15 it would be no
more inconvenient than at pre
sent, but that Seaforth would
be more convenient.
Told that at Howick Town
ship central school music, les
sons were available at the sch
ool, Mrs, Patrick said! she
would not favour this, She pre
ferred lessons from the sister at
Seaforth, since the nun had
better control of her students1.
No Children
John Wood, who had no sch
ool age children identifiel'd 'two
Sheets' of the petition.' as being
ones he had witnessed. He felt
the union with Seaforth would
be better for convenience arid
financially. He said, he lived
five miles’ from Seaforth, and
most of the names he had' ob
tained on the petition would
find Brucefield no farther than
Seaforth.
He Said there had been no
discussion of tax rate, nor of
caste of -the school in Seaforth.
He had not told them1 the Sea
forth rate was 15 mills and
the township rate was 11, bed
cause rate Was not talked of.
Mr. Wood .said that three
former school trustees that
signed the petition were xall
against union with Seaforth.
Teacher Talks
Ronald Eyre, who teaches
Grade 6 at Seaforth Public
School and lives in Egmond
ville, is married and an ex
pectant father, reported enrol
ment at Seaforth PS as fol
lows: kindergarten, 26; Grade
1,- 27; 2, 30; 3, 39; 4, 38; 5, 35;
6, 33;7, 37; 8, 40.
Mr. Eyre described the
school, 'built in 1953, as mod
ern, and one of the best equip
ped in this part of Ontario,
with overhead projectors in
each room and a photo copying
machine. He said the supervised
playground was large enough
for 150 more children.
Secretary-treasurer of the
Men Teachers Federation in
Huron and Perth, Mr. Eyre
Said Seaforth’s salary schedule
was the highest iin the area,
(starting in level 1 at $3,900
compared with Clinton’s $3,500
and Grey Township as $3,400).
He said there was an excellent
relationship between teachers
■and board.
Asked about first aid, Mr.
Eyre said he has a St. John’s
Ambulance certificate, and that
■playground accidents do require-
thlat children be taken to hos
pital or clinic.
Mr. Eyre said he had no ob
jection to the school at Bruce
field, nor to the sort of educa
tion that would be available
there, but that he preferred a
doser location. As a teacher
he said he would hesitate to
hire at a school out in the
country for the same amount
of money. He said that a tea
cher should live in the commun
ity where his school is, and
should take part in the life of
the community.
Judge Hetherington asked
why Mir. Eyre did not live in
Seaforth, and received that an
swer that he had bought from
an uncle at a reasonable rate,
and was dose enough to the
school.
Lawyer Murphy cross-exam
ined to find that one piember
of the Seaforth staff lives in
Mitchell. Mr. Eyre said the
prime intei’esit of the school
system is the best education
for the child, not the conven
ience of the parents.
Mr. Murphy had Mr. Eyre
read a directive from the Min
ister of Education, to consulta
tive committees, indicating a
trend toward schools of 300
students and up, serving an
area with a population of 3,Q00
people 'and up,*
Murphy asked for the 1964-
65 salary schedule a)t Seaforth
and 'foun'd that a raise in minb
mum of $700 a year had been
given. Nd teacher at Seaforth,!
not even principal, hias a de
gree.
Mr. Eyre Was assistant
scoutmiasiter at Seaforth for n.
year, 'then scoutmaster there'
for three year's. Then he start
ed -a troop at Egmondville,
where he is now acting scout
master. He 'serves on the Lions
CHUb group committee in
charge of scouts at Seaforth. ■
Mr, Eyre said he was not
familiar with any large central
schools'; he had lived in Sea
forth, attended school there;
and now taught -there. He had
never taught anywhere else.
Mr. Eyre reported that the ’
principal teaches half-time;
there is a part time music
teacher; part time teacher of
PT; and no separate room for
library.
Town Clerk
After noon recess, Ernie
Williams, clerk of Seaforth
presented figures to show total
public school assessment at $1,-
755,709 and for separate school
assessment, $275,590. Popula
tion of the town was 2,249 in
1965; 2,278 in 1964; 2,332 in
1963; 2,197 in 1962 and 2,245 in
1961.
Mr. Williams stated that
public school tax rate would be
18.6 mills in 1966, and' predict
ed that with the added1 assess
ment of the proposed' union
school area, and building five
additional rooms, tax rate for
public school purposes likely
would drop to 16 mills;
Cross-examined, Mr. Williams
saijd’ that this estimate had not
included consideratibn1 of
Change of grant schedule nor
increased' salary schedule. No'
consideration h'ad been given
for a library, a larger auditori
um, more land1, full time prin
cipal, costs of renovating old
part of school, renovating heat
ing system, nor ’on the fact that
grants ’ on renovations were
lower than on new construction.
Seaforth Mayor
Mayor John Flannery, Sea
forth, who lives in Egmondville,
said the town had begun nego
tiations with the'Ontario Water
Resources Commission with re
gard to sewage disposal sys
tem.
The mayor told Lawyer Mur
phy that he would be surprised
if the projected population of
pre-schoolers in Tuckersmith
and! Stanley were actually in
creased1. He had no knowledge
of the situation in McKillop,
nor in Howick Townships.
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Mr. Doig felt that taking
children from Hullett and Eg
mondville to Brucefield was
premature and ill-advised. He
felt the farm population was in
a state of transition, with a
trend to support of separate
schools and that. Seaforth was
the natural centre far most of
Tuckersmith owing to the pec
uliar geographical layout,
Cross-examined, Mr. Doig
slaid he thought the township
should continue to' send' the
children to the school now ex
isting. He agreed that the site
of the school did not affect the
child!, but that Seaforth would
be more convenient for parents.
He did hot agree that there
were more young people farm
ing today than ten years ago.
Costs Later
Judge Hetherington held a
brief consultation with the
lawyers, stating as arbitrator
that they should fee concerned
only with whether or not there
should be a designated area to
go into a, union school section,
and if so, how much should go.
If union fe approved, then they
•would deal' with the exact ap
portionment of capital costs,
etc.
Property Widespread
Carl Dalton, reeve of Sea
forth, and a retired farmer,
stated 'that he owned four
farms in McKillop (400 acres);
26 acres in Tuckersmith near
Seaforth; three houses and
four acres of land in Seaforth
and a cottage with lot in Bay-
field.
Mr. Dalton is chairman of
the 1966 Huron County Con
sultative Committee, whose
duty it is to consider boundar
ies of areas, and recommend to
county council.
His evidence was. that there
were 268 enrolled in Tucker
smith schools in 1964 and 227
in 1965; 323 in Stanley schools
in 1964, and 304 in 1965. He
said that this indicated school
population was going down.
Since he got one year’s set of
figures' from the inspector’s of
fice and the other year’s set
from the health unit of the
county, Judge Hetherington
commented that the • informa
tion was practically useless.
Mr. Dalton said that his
committee 'had never been ask
ed by either Tuckersmith nor
Stanley for changes in bound-,
aries. He said the committee
did not discuss closing of either
Egmondville1 or Bayfield sch
ools. “It is my personal and
private 'opinion,” said •■Mr. Dal
ton, “that neither one of them
should be closed.”
He suggested that the public
School, separate school and high
school bus system could fee
combined to operate into Sea
forth at half the cost of trans
porting the children to Bruce
field.
Mr. Hetherington commented
that “part of rbhe trouble here
is that too many people are
forming, opinions on diversified
facts. It is my job to form the
opinion, and right now what We
want iis to find the facts. Then
we’ll all be in a position to
form the same opinion.”
Mr. Dalton spoke of a trend
to. cash. crops in Tuckersmith,
a move to large holdings of
land, a change into hands of
separate school supporters;
growth in Egmondville and
Harpurhey. He said that he had
lost one tenant because the
renter did not want his children
to go to the Egmondville
school.
Cross-examined the follow
ing day, Mr. Dalton said he
had not told the proposed rent
er about the proposed Bruce
field school, nor that the child
ren could go to Seaforth school
for the cost of tuition plus
township taxes.
Also on Friday, Mr. Dalton
presented proposed bus systems
to bring both separate school
and public school children from
the designated area in to Sea
forth. For one short route
picking up Egmondville chald
ron, only, he quoted a rate of
$5.52 per child per year.
“The bus company prefers a
longer route, though,” said Mr.
Dalton, “30 miles or longer.’’
Mr. Dalton said that the
children at the north end' of
Egmondville would be expect
ed to walk,
Mr. Dalton said that -he had
agreed with a decision by coun
ty council to set up Huron
County School Area No. 1 (in
cluding Tuckersmith, Stahley
and Bayfield). He said he was
not aware, 'that the by-law
Tuckersmith Township passed,
agreeing to the areas, was on
the provision that the township
on no account would be broken
up. '
Mr. Dalton said that hiis com
mittee did hot have art infor
mal ■ approach froin Bayfield
last year; nor did they talk to
Stanley about changing' boun
daries; nor did they receive a .
petition, from Bayfield.
Asked if any of the three
municipalities had ever made
application to the consultative
Cbtofnilttee for a change in
boundaries, MT. Dalton said the
request may have come to tlty _
Ladies of the Summerhill
Club me t at the home of Mrs.
Lawrence Ciunmings on Wed
nesday, April 13. Sixteen mem
bers and seven visitors \veax?
present..
The president, Mi’s. George
Coldough opened the meeting
with an Easter poem follpweid
by singing the “Old- Rugged
Crops’\
The dessert euchre March. 30,
ydith Londesboro Women’s In
stitute and ladies from 16th of
Goderich Township as guests
Was a decided success, The pro
ceeds were spot to Easter Seal
Campaign,
Thank you cards were read
from Williiant Blacker Sr., and
Mrs. Allan Neal.
Contests were given by Mrs,
William Gibbings and Mrs;
Andrew Hummel. Winners
were Mirs. Mike Salverda and
Mw. Robert .Gibbings. Mrs.
Russel Good gave a reading
“Radio Confusion”,. Miss Sand
ra Good won1 the raffle.
Th§ next meeting will be held
at the home, of Mrs. Neville
Forbes. Program . committee,
Mrs. William Jenkins, Mrs.
William Loveltt and Mrs. Ross
Lovett; lunch committee, Mrs.
Jim' Snell, Mr®. Lloyd Stewart,
Mrs.' Keith Tyndall and Mrs;
Fred Vbdden,
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over
office, but if so Mr. Kinkead
had dealt with it. “It did not
come before our committee,’’
he said.
Mr. Hunter re-examined to
get..the information that there
was a • short-cut between Eg
mondville and Seaforth school,
with no need to use the high
way. Mr. Dalton said this goes
across the railway, where there
i!s no roadway completed, but
there is a road, allowance.
East witness for the appel
lants was Ivan Forsyth, Tuck-
erSmith assessor, who gave pop
ulation figures for 1963, 2,117
and 1964, 2,075 broken down
into age brackets. He agreed
that if the Seaforth population
in 1956 was 1,957 as suggested
by Mr. Murphy, then there Was
little population change in the
ten years.
Community Honors
Departing Families
JiJDDLETO.N — A highly
successful social evening was
held in the old Holmesville
school on Friday orf last week.
The party was held in honour
of Mr. and Mrs, Arnold Miller,
recently ’ removed to Goderich,
and of Mrs, John Grigg and
her sons, Murray and Stuart,
who are moving to Qinton,
The large crowd present
from “Tipperary” school sec
tion and 'community testified
to their popularity .and the
inspect in which they are held,
Euchre was the .order of the
evening 'and there were 12
tables in play, Mrs. Harold
Morrell, Clinton, won the lad
ies’ h'igh prize, Mrs, Reg. MEiln.
ler, ladies’ low, The men’s high
prize was won by Edward
Deeves, men’s low by Donald
Harris.
The
called
Smith
dress.
Mr.
presented with an occasional
chair and a leather footstool
and Mrs-, Grigg received a cof
fee table and Stuart and' Mur
ray pen and pencil sets1.
The gifts were presented by
Edward Wise, Edward. Deeves
Jack Cole* 'arid Bill Smith.
Each family expressed their
thanks and surprise, thinking
they had come to honour the
other! The singing of “For
They Are Jolly Good Fellows”
and a ’lovely lunch served by
the ladies rounded out a de
lightful evening.
Middleton News
The service of evening pray
er will be held, in Sit. James’
Church, Middleton, at 2.30 p.m.
DST, for the next few Sundays,
Masters Robby 'and Tommy
Campbell spent the Easter
holidays with their grandpar«
ents, Mr, and Mrs, Fred Mid
dleton.
Is
guests of honour were
to the front and John
read an appropriate ad-
ainjcl Mirs. Miller were
HOLMESVILLE
New Members
Feted At
Church Dinner
HOLMESVILLE—The Men’s
Club of Wesley-Willis—Holmes
ville Charge were hosts at a
dinner on Wednesday evening,
April 13 at Holmesville United
Church far new church mem
bers and. their parents and Sun
day School teachers of both
congregations.
Guest, speaker was Rev. Hugh
C. Wilson, a former member
of the charge.
Those who joined. Holmesville
United Church at the Sunday
service were: by 'transfer, Mr.
and Mrs; Gordon Rapson from
Wlingham United Church, and
those on profession of faith,
Carpi Steepe, Marlene Yeto;
Connie Harris, Laurie Ginn'and
Tom1 Lobb.
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