The Citizen, 2012-05-31, Page 24PAGE 24. THE CITIZEN, THURSDAY, MAY 31, 2012.True costs questioned in fire department start-upContinued from page 22the exercise might be a waste ofmoney.One presentation, from Doug
Kuyvenhoven, executive vice-
president of Royal Homes, one of
the largest taxpayers in Morris-
Turnberry, didn’t ask for the two
municipalities to go back to the
bargaining table. Instead, he urged
Morris-Turnberry to accept the bill.
“I suggest we pay for the fire
service and thank them,”
Kuyvenhoven said. He noted that it
was “big picture thinking” by a
former mayor of Wingham that saw
Royal Homes locate in what was
then Turnberry Twp. 40 years ago.
Since Wingham didn’t have the 13
acres of land needed for the plant,
the mayor urged Kuyvenhoven’s
father to locate in Turnberry and
arranged for Wingham to provide the
water and sewer required.
How much of the municipality’s
tax revenue was because of similar
cases where Wingham provided
services across the border to Morris-
Turnberry industries, Kuyvenhoven
wondered?
Start-up costs questioned
Several presentations questioned
the accuracy of the municipality’s
estimated cost to set up the fire
department.
Chief Building Official Steve
Fortier estimated a cost of $100 per
square foot for 3,000 - 4,000 square
foot stations based on the costs
experienced by other municipalities
which had recently built new fire
stations.
During the question period
Belgrave resident Gordon Folkard
said he didn’t agree with any of the
figures. Based on many years
involved in building, “I know you
can’t build for that cost.”
Meanwhile, James Marshall,
Morris-Turnberry’s community fire
safety officer, showed photographs
of used fire trucks in the U.S., all
with mileage of about 60,000 km.
which would allow the municipality
to have four trucks to start for under
the $400,000 budget set up to equip
the department. The municipality
would also set aside $50,000 a year
in a fund to purchase new equipment
and would be able to make its first
purchase in 2018, he said.
Howson, a firefighter with North
Huron’s Blyth Station as well as a
businessman, said he had problems
with the estimates which he said
were “not practical”. New fire trucks
cost $350,000 to $400,000, he said.
He questioned why someone would
be selling trucks that were still
serviceable unless there were
problems with them.
From business experience,
Howson said, when you prepare a
business plan for a new venture you
can be prepared to double the figures
you first come up with.
On top of that, he said, council
proposes to borrow money to set up
the fire service and pay it back over
a 30-year period. That’s a huge
amount of interest for the taxpayers
to repay, he said.
Beer-Bailey argued against using
buying used equipment. “If you go
ahead, please, no second-hand
equipment,” she said. “Don’t risk the
lives of the firefighters.”
The true cost
Garniss, in his question, asked
why Huron East and Howick
departments operated at so much
less cost than North Huron.
Figures shown in the
municipality’s presentation
indicated North Huron’s department
spends nearly $800,000 a year
to cover a total population of
about 7,000 from two fire halls
while Huron East spends $581,000
to serve 9,233 people from
three fire halls.Gowing said all departmentscomply with governmentrequirements, despite the difference
in costs.
“We’ve received good service
from all the departments,” he said.
Archie McGowan, administrator
of Braemar Nursing Home located
in Morris-Turnberry, but who is also
a former North Huron councillor,
asked: “What if this [North Huron’s
charge] is the true cost? I don’t think
North Huron ratepayers are prepared
to subsidize Morris-Turnberry.”
Gowing said Morris-Turnberry
has never asked to be subsidized, but
council objects to the share of the
North Huron department’s costs it’s
being asked to assume.
In the days of the fire area boards,
Morris-Turnberry covered 27.7 per
cent of the Wingham department and
20.16 of Blyth’s. But in those days,
Morris-Turnberry got 100 per cent
of its coverage from those
departments.
Today, in the interests of having
the closest station respond, Morris-
Turnberry has contracted the
Howick and Huron East (Brussels)
departments for partial coverage,
leaving North Huron to cover only
62.9 per cent of the municipality. Yet
Morris-Turnberry is covering 32.1
per cent of the North Huron
department’s costs.
The original breakdown of costs
for the fire boards was based on each
department’s share of the total
assessment of the area covered,
Gowing said. Morris-Turnberry has
asked that costs be levied according
to assessment under the new pricing
structure, but North Huron wants to
stick with the old formula. Costs
divided by the assessment of that
area covered by the North Huron
department would save Morris-
Turnberry $67,000 a year.
Recruiting firefighters
Plans call for recruitment and
training of 32 firefighters to serve
the two stations but many in the
audience questioned whether that
many volunteers can be found.
Marshall showed data that there
were 177 people between the ages of
18 and 49 in Belgrave and nearby
area while there were 137 in Lower
Town.
To date, five volunteers had come
forward but recruitment was just
beginning, said Michie.
But Somers pointed out that
Belgrave is basically a bedroom
community with few people who
would be available to answer calls
during week days.
He also predicted that some of the
volunteers who were recruited might
reconsider when they realized how
great a commitment they had made.
Belgrave’s Lynne Armstrong, who
launched the Ontario Municipal
Board appeal of the rezoning for the
land for the Belgrave station
because, she said, “I just wanted to
see the process reviewed”
questioned whether enough training
costs had been included.
During the public question period
another resident questioned what the
municipality would do with the land
and buildings when they couldn’t
find enough firefighters to staff the
department.
Land purchase
Several people during question
period objected to the fact that
council had bought land for the two
fire stations before informing the
public of plans for the fire service.
Gowing explained that a
municipality is allowed to have in
camera meeting when it is
purchasing land in order not to drive
up the cost.
This brought scoffs from
Armstrong and others who
questioned if there was interest fromanyone else in buying these parcelssince they had been unsold for sometime.
Others questioned what council
would do with the land if the fire
service didn’t go ahead. Gowing
said it could split up the Belgrave
property into several residential lots
and recover its cost.
The survey
Several in the audience exploded
in fury when they learned that a
survey was scheduled to be mailed
out on Monday. The survey was to
ask people to vote for either starting
a new fire service or maintaining thestatus quo of purchasing servicefrom North Huron. It also said thatfailure to return the survey would be
counted as a vote of support for the
fire service.
Gowing said council was trying to
ensure people take the time to reply
but others saw something
underhanded.
“If only 40 per cent of the surveys
are returned you’d be saying 60 per
cent are in favour,” Kuyvenhoven
said.
The day following the meeting a
group of unhappy ratepayers
descended on the municipal office todemand the survey not be mailedout.The mood of the meeting was
perhaps best summed up when
Belgrave’s Ross Proctor asked
anyone present who supported the
idea of a fire service to stand up. No
one did.
In summing up, Gowing said
“We’ve heard you loud and
clear.”
From his observation the number
one thing people wanted them to do
was to go back to talk to North
Huron, he said.
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Running the torch
The annual torch run for the Special Olympics made its way through Blyth on Tuesday morning
with dozens of people taking part. The relay began in Wingham, making its way through Blyth
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