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reeve .explains fire .
sputa - to Seaforth toOritit,
Arena
to appi
for LIP
grant
Town council has agreed to
apply for a Local Initiatives
Program grant to get renovations
at Seaforth's arena started this
fall, but they hope that the arena
won't have to be closed during
the busy winter season:'
The plan is, that if money is
received from LIP, construction
will start on the arena addition to
the north of the building in
November and then move to
*, include renovations in the present
interior in April, when the ice
surface is out: '
The amount for which Seaforth
will apply has not been decided
yet. Clerk Bob Franklin and the
town's arena committee will draw
up the application before
tomorrow's LIP deadline.
"Huron County only has about
Pit $300,000 in LIP grants. 'I think we
should be sensible or we won't
get anything," councillor Jim
Crocker said. M ayor Betty
Cardno said LIP projects must
provide a minimum of 60 man
weeks of work, and must ask for
at least enough money to pay
those salaries. •
Councillors looked at an
alternate plan for arena
I renovations from Cambrian
Consultants of Kitchener, which
would cost considerably less than
the renovation plan council got
last year from architects
Kyles, Kyles and Garratt for a fee
of about $6000.
The mayor said Cambrian did
not charge for their plans unless
council decided to use them. The
al, plans were for the ground floor
r only. Not as many washrooms
were'•fittivided as in the Kyles
plan and some councillors felt the
dressing rooms were too small.
'Ihat's the size ofa box stall,"
councillor Bill Bennett, chairman
of the arena committee
commented about the smallest
dressing rdom.
Council made no decision on what
renovation plan is to be followed
*. if their LIP grant is approved.
They will seek support letters
from the Huron County Health
Unit, the Liquor Licence Board,
the Ontario Hockey Association
and from local organizations who
use the arena.
Fund raising for the arena
reconstruction will have to be
started as soon as possible, rec .
director Clive Buist said
Wednesday. Only three people
attended a meeting to plan a fund
raising campaign Tuesday night,
Mr. Buist said.
Another meeting will be held
Monday night, September 15 at 8
in the • rec office in the lower
library, he said. He urged anyone
who's willing to serve on a fund
raising executive, or on one of the
several committees they hope to
set up, to attend.
H•e said he hoped to see some
arena fund raising in progress at
the 'Fall Fair'.
this'coundil is a majority vote".
If the committee has any notion
of taking over the PUC, they
should find out about costs and
have a meeting, the mayor
commented.
Well before 5 o'clock Monday
afternoon when the event was
scheduled to begin, lines of cars
were heading to Pine Ridge
Chalet in Hay Township for a
barbeque honoring Jack Riddell,
Libereal candidate in 'Huron-
Middlesex.
When the Ontario Liberal bus
arrived at 5:15 with Liberal
Leader Robert Nixon, party
officials and press the grounds
already were well filled and
supporters from across the riding
continued to arrive almost until
the end of the program. .In all
about 2500 people attended the
event.
After speaking to the
audience, Mr, Nixon was wisked
away in a helicopter shortly past 6
p.m. to go to a live television
appearance in London.
Despite cloudy skies, chilly
winds and the occasional drizzle,
DAvid Papple turned 90 on
Friday and doesn't think that is
such a big deal.
He has had a long life with his
wife, Isabelle, 84, and has
enjoyed their family which
included 11 children, 31 grand-
children and 32 great-grand-
children.
They had six girls, five boys,
although one boy was lost
overseas. One girl is living in
California, four of their children
in London, one in Brantford and
four in the Seaforth area,
In March, he and his wife had
their 65th wedding anniversary
and one of his boys presented him
with a replica of the family farm
which he sold in 1946.
He was born on the Kippen
Road about three miles and a
quarter from Seaforth, where
they lived in a little white house
on a farm.
He said his father was "just a
working man" who worked as a
farmhand for years, until he
bought his father-in-law's farm
on the Bayfield Road in 1890.
The biggest changes have
occurred in farming because it
was all horses when he farmed
but now its heavy machinery.
He was an only child, had no
brothers or sisters to quarrel with
and just happened to "find" his
wife a mile-and a quarter down
Liberal supporters stood around
the outdoor platform to hear the
speeches and enjoy a program of
entertainment.
Mr. Nixon praised the Huron-
Middlesex member as a "strong
speaker, a strong opponent of the
Tories".
"He's good at keeping i uch
with the people at home ut he
has a cert ain indepeddent spirit
that every good member needs,"
Mr. Nixon told the gathering.
"When he gets up to speak, the
Legislature listens."
Mr. Nixon said that des ate
what Premier Bill Davis is
saying: the regional, government
issue is not dead.
"If the Tories are elected in
this election, Ontario will be
regionalized from Windsor to
Ottawa and this Riding will be
included", Mr. Nixon stated.
"Don't you ever think this is not
the road from where he lived, he
chuckled.
When asked if he was
disappointed that none of his sons
took over the family farm, he
said: "Why should we? We were
glad enough to get off it."
He said, by this time, all his
family was Started on their own so
he and his wife decided to move
to town to take it easy. Still and all
he worked around town until he
was eighty and couldn't do that
anymore, he said.
Moving to town, he said was
"alright", "it was different. I
retired to do nothing but take
orders from the wife," he
laughed.
Mr. Papple said the old
homestead got the Expositor
since 1898, and he remembers
getting it when he was a boy.
He said his grandfather, David.
Walker settled on a farm in 1837
and was likely one of the oldest
subscribers to the paper.
Seaforth isn't the town it was
years ago," he said. There was
more industry fifty years ago than
there is today, such as the
furniture factory, active foundry
and blacksmith shops. "It's just
kind of a place to live."
"I can mind when there were
seven hotels in Seaforth."ft was a
much livelientovvrt fifty years ago.
could do it. That's why I
remember saying we should get
information to the clerks".
(Deputy-reeve Dale said no notice
of the 1973 board decision could
be found on file with Seaforth.
Perhaps council has not gotten
the information they should have
in the past, Mayor Cardno said.
Fire board representatives are
now being asked for a monthly
report she said. "I initiated
getting this out when the press
was around," the mayor said,
adding that she could understand
that Reeve Campbell was upset to
see the story in print without
forewarning.
Reeve Campbell said that since
the two new Seaforth appointees
had first raised the question of
part of Mckillop being allowed to
opt out at fire area meetings, in
April or May, he had wanted to
straighten out the dispute. But,
he said, the whole board should
discuss the matter and since
Councillor Hildebrand had not
attended a fire area board
meeting since then, the subject
had not been raised.
Councillor Hildebrand
challenged this, saying that
meetings had been cancelled by
phone, then were held and he
was not informed about the
changes.
"We haven't had a chance to
straighten this out," Reeve
Campbell said.
Mayor Cardno said that she
had been surprised to learn that
part of the fire area board's
original coverage area had been
lost. "I was in on the first
negotiations and we wanted to
make the paragraph (setting
boundaries for 10 years) ironclad.
an issue in this eleCtion."
Mr. Nixon called his own
Riding of Brant the "hole in the
regional government doughnut",
explaining that municipalitiers all
around it had been regionalized.
He said the Davis government
offers increased grants and
financial incentive to areas that
do regionalize, but he urged his
listeners to "beware".
"They think money talks," Mr.
Nixon said, "but money talks like
a Tory."
The Liberals beli eve that local
autonomy is where the strength of
goVernment lies, Mr. Nixon said.
Mr. Nixon said Liberal
candidates all,,,over the province
were meeting with positive
response from the voters.
"Whatever happens, it's going
our way,", the Liberal leader
smiled.After 32 years, it is time
for a chahge. We need y our help,
Everybody was working then and
had a little money. Nowadays
everybody is doing as little as
they can help, he said.
Mr. Papple said there are a lot
of retired farmers in Seaforth,
who h ave come from the farm,
but continue to work around
town.
People had a more social life in
those days, now you hardly know
your next door neighbor. They
used to have barn raisings, but
now contractors and bricklayers
do it, and it's a "big concern", he
said.
A lot of people might argue
about the state of education today
in comparison to years ago, but
Mr. papple is one of the few-who
still can remember a Seaforth
teacher who travelled to a one-
room school in Tuckesmith each
day for 27 years, for less than
$500 a year.
Nowadays, kids get an
education and they have to go
miles away to make use of it, he
said.
He remembers when councils
*had a lot more power than they do
today. If something has to be
done today, then the council has
to get a "Toronto kink who
doesn't know one end of Seaforth
from another" to tell the
councillors what to do, he said,
If everybody took this view we
could end up with very little in the
fire area," she added.
Reeve Campbell also told
councillors that "something
hasn't been right for some time"
on the way contributions to the
fire area board are assessed. he
said that municipalities are
supposed to be paying according
to the total assessment, including
the assessment on tax exempt
properties like schools and
municipal buildings, and it looks
as if both Seaforth and McKillop
are paying on only their taxable
assessment, a lower figure.
Hullett fire area rep Milton
Dale, who accompanied Reeve
Campbell said there was no
problem in his municipality which
has little tax exempt property.
(By Wilma Oke)
Total enrolment in schools
under the jurisdiction of the
Huron-Perth County Roman
Catholic Separate School Board at
the end of the first week of school
this term was down 85 students
from the same time in 1974.
Jack Lane, Business
Administrator, released the
enrolment figures at the board
meeting in Seafoth Monday
ladies and gentlemen, and
together we're going to do it."
Stop Hanky-Panky
Jack Riddell echoed Mr.
Nixon's sentiments about
regional government, adding that
under a Liberal government,
there would be a "stop to that
kind of hanky-panky" where
people are pushed into change
when the government withholds
grants.
He said too much government
attention is focused on Toronto
and told his supporters a Liberal
government would "treat
everybody on an equal basis".
Mr. Riddell spoke at length
about the educational system in
Toronto and blamed former
education minister Bill Davis for
experimenting with the children
of this province to the point that
education has seriously
deteriorated.
The former high school teacher
told his audience that students
are becoming disenchanted and
dropping out of school at an
alarming rate. He criticised the
credit system which makes it•
possible to get a Grade 13
'diploma without any core subjects
such as English, Canadian
History, Canadian Geography
and Mathematics. He said some
university students are
"functionally illiterate" so that
remedial courses in reading and
mathematics are necessary in
some instances. -
"We've got to get back to the
three R's," Mr. Riddell insisted.
"We've got to get back to the
core subjects. We've got to get
back to some meaningful way of
testing students."
Mr. Riddell added that
teachers were as dedicated and as
conscientious as ever.
"It's the system they work
under," the Liberal candidate
stated. "Davis has been
experimenting with the
educational system."
Whopping Deficit
Speaking about inflation, Mr.
Riddell said the province has a
$4.7 billion deficit which is
costing the people $2,000,000
ry day in interest payments.
He said a Liberal government
would control government
spending. He said "super
ministries" would disappear and
the "Legislative process" would
be returned. He promised that
new ,bills would get to the
standing committees again for
some "public input".
He said she rp cuts could be
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Hibbert and Tuckersmith also
share in the fire areaboard.
"If we've been wrong we
should correct it," councillor•
Hildebrand said. Deputy Reeve
Dale said he doubted that the
section setting boundaries could
be changed.
He and deputy reeve Dale
didn't know the changes to the
coverage area had been made,
"councillor Hildebrand explained,
when they came on as " new
appointees this year.
"You can't blame McKillop for
that", Reeve Campbell replied.
-Mayor Cardno ,apologized for
causing Reeve Campbell
problems and said "we're not
inferring this is all your fault."
She said perhaps she asked for
the fire arel board members'
night. He said total enrolment
this September is 3082, in 1974 it
was 3167, and in 1973 it was 3266.
Mr. Lane gave the enrolment
by schools as follows with the
1974 total in brackets following
the 1975' number: St. Patrick's
School, Dublin, 184 (191);
St Patrick's Kinkora, 196 (203);
Holy Name of Mary, St. Marys,
190(197); St.Mary's, Hesson, 122
(107); Immaculate Conception,
Stratford, 119 . (135); St.
Michael's, Stratford, 272 (299);
St. Ambrose, Stratford, 135 (141);
St. Joseph's, Stratford, 141 (138);
St. Aloysius, Stratford, 194 (200);
St. Joseph's, Kingsbridge, 166
(181); St. Columban, R.R.2,
Dublin, 91 (100); Our Lady of
Mount Carmel, R.R.3,Dashwood
235 (235); Ecole Ste Marie, R.R.2,
Zurich, 90 (83); St. Joseph's
Clinton, 99 (93); Precious Blood,
Exeter, 65 (71); St. James,'
Seaforth , 176 (191); Sacred
Heart, Wingharh, 133 (129); St.
Boniface, Zurich, 245 (247); and
St. Mary's Goderich, 229 (216).
The Board accepted the fuel oil
tender of Petrofina Canada
Limited for the supply of No. 2
fuel oil from September 1, 1975 to
August 31, 1976, at a discount of
7.2 cents per gallon off the posted
tank wagon price, which at the
time of tender was 37.6 cents,
except Wingham which was 38.2
cents per gallon.
Mrs. Constance Birmingham
was hired for 40 per cent time as a
remedial teacher at St. Ambrose
School, Stratford and Mrs.
Regene Whaling, for 40 per cent
at St. Aloysius School, Stratofrd;
commencing September 2.
Barry Linden was hired for
Grades 5 - 6 at Ecole Ste Marie
School, Zurich, commencing
September 10.
Mrs. M ary Jo-An Sullen was
hired as principal's relief (40 per
cent) for one year term,
commencing September 2.
John Vintar, Director of
Education, informed the board
the teaching staffs wo'uld be
report to council prematurelY4
Reeve Campbell said McKillop
had been willing to meet on both •
problems for a long time, but
repeated that area board•
meetings lacked a quorum,
"We're agreeable to doing
anything to keep peace and quiet
but we're not going to•take things'
which make us look bad lying
down."
Reeve Campbell began his
comments to Seaforth councillors
with an explanation of why
McKillop took part of its area out
of fire area coverage. There were
complaints from ratepayers about
protection in the north end of the
township, he sad.
He gave several examples of.
north McKillop'` fires where
Seaforth hadbeen called first but 'N
Plyth had arrived first.
completed when a music teacher '
was located for St. Patrick's
School at Kinkora.
A polling station will be located
at Immaculate Conception School
in Stratford for the provincial
election at a rental fee of $35.
Mr. Vintar reminded the-
trustees of the 1975 conference of
the Canadian Education
Association to be held in Toronto
September 24 -26.
St. Michael's School in
Stratford will be used for the COR
weekend again from October 9th
to the 11th.
Stratford trustee, Howard
Shantz , presented the board with
a survey he made of the total
number of homes, semi-detached
homes and town housing units
being planned for each area of the
City of Stratford and how it would
affect enrolment at the present
separate schools in Stratford and
indicated possible future
requirements of additions or new
schools.
Plans are being made for the*
official opening of the new board
office now located in the former
continuation school and convent
in Dublin. The administrative
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Draw winners in
LiOns car club
Seaforth Lions were
hosts Saturday night to Car Club
5 when final draws were held.
The last of 300 tickets to be
drawn was that of Wm.
McLaughlin, Seafo rth and he
won a new car or $2800.
Mr. Mclaughlin, area Ford
dealer, decided to take the Dodge
Dart instead of the cash.
Winners of $50 each in
preliminary draws were Janet
Cluff, Keith MacLean, Dennis
McCauley, Mrs. Shirley Ring and
Mrs. Joan Chesney, all of
Seaforth.
Dancing continued. throughout
the evening followed by lunch.
councillor Wayne Ellis of the
police committee said.
Councillors made no decision
on what was to be done with any
dogs that are caught without tags
or known owners. Mayor Cardno
suggested that since many
municipalities have dog
problems, perhaps it's time for
county council to set up a county
dog catcher and county pound.
The crime :ate in August was
the highest this year in town,
councillor Ellis said, quoting
Police Chief John Cairns' report.
The chief said that 90% of. the
crime had been cleared up.
After councillor ' read the
list of police overtime hours for.
the month, councillor John
Sinnamon commented that these
hours cost Seaforth about $141
week last month.
Mayor Cardno said that the
chief is keeping track of how
much of the overtime is related to
court appeara'
NIXON IN HENSALL — Ontario Liberal leader
Robert Nixon shakes hands with someone in the
large crowd at the Jack Riddell barbecue at
Pineridge Chalet Monday night. That's Allan
Nicholson of Egmondville behind Mr. Nixon.
(Staff Photo)
Council continues
water discussion
The PUC town council dispute
was once again a topic at Seaforth
council's meeting Monday night.
Councillors heard a PUC
opinion that it would be alright to
selltownwater to service cattle on
the Carl Dalton property just
outside town, as long as an
agreement said that either party
could back out on 90 days notice.
Councillor Jim , Crocker's
finance committee recommended
that the sale not be approved. The
PUC say they don't have enough
Water and then they sell it to
cattle, how can they justify that?
councillor Wayne Ellis wondered.
At the urging of Mayor Cardno,
council decided that Mr. Dalton
'would be told that the water
decision had to come from the
PUC, but that council would then
decide whether to give, access to
the water, across town property.
Councillor John Sinnamon,
chairman of the ad hoc committee
on takeover of the PUC said his
committee hadn't been able to get
an opinion, from a local lawyer on
either the legality of a takeover or
of the PUC's back billing.
The mayor suggested that all
councillors read the PUC Act.
Councillor Sinnamon said he felt
his committee was not getting
council's support. Clerk Robert
Franklin said a plebiscite would
be needed to repeal the by-law
setting up the PUC.
Councillor Sinnamon objected
to a comment at the last PUC
meeting by acting chairman Ed
Daly that one or two people were
swinging- council on the issue.
"Any motion that gets through
C
area
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A lack of communication
between members of the Seaforth
Fire Area Board is causing
problems,
Concerned by a "report in the
paper" McKillop Reeve Allan ;
Campbell came to Seaforth
council Monday night to talk•Fire,„
Area Board business.
Reeve Campbell objected to
Seaforth's fire board represen.
tatives, Deputy reeve Bill Date
and councillor George:
Hildebrand's, contention at the,
last local council meeting that:.
McKillop hail pulled part of its
township out of the area, contrary
-to the agreement that all,
municipalities signed when the,
area was formed in 1970.
"What's in the paper is not the:,
way it was in the meeting",
Councillor Hildebrand told him.
Reeve Campbell said that
Seaforth Reeve John Flannery
chaired the area board meeting in,
(5ctober 1973 when the other
members agreed to let a portion
of McKillop opt out and Seaforth
Councillor Wayne Ellis was on the
board. Reeve Campbell said that
he and Bill Leeming, the other
McKillop rep., had left the room
and the McKillop request was
passed.He showed council a letter
to the McKillop clerk from the fire
board secretary confirming this at
the time.
The reeve said he wanted it
understood that nothing had been
done under the table. Councillor
Ellis said perhaps he and Reeve
Flannery had been remiss in not
bringing this to council at the
time. Reeve Flannery said that he
had spoken to the clerk about it,
"There was . a question (in
October 1973) about whether we
Seafprth livelier fifty years
ago, 90 year old says
Crowd hears Nixon
at kiddell bcirbeque gathering
The long awaited completion of
sewers for Seaforth looks closer
following Monday night's council
"meeting. Councillors learned that
tenders on the first phase of
finishing the town's sewers will
be opened in Toronto on
September 23.
Reeve John Flannery said he
would like to attend the tender
opening because it was useful to
meet the government men who
would handle the job.
Council was asked to form a
liaison committee to meet when
construction is in progress. They
named the mayor, town clerk,
town foreman, the reeve, the PUC
manager and a representative
from Seaforth's industrial
committee.
The town's mechanical dog
catcher will be .put into service
again, following a number of
complaints about dogs running at
large. Anyone who complains can
have the catcher installed on their
property by town workenen,.
nrolment down, in
Huron Perth schools
Council sees early start
on sewer installation
'-'hole No. 5609
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